Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-08-06 Thread Greg Osborn
This was a vendor at Covington.  $60 seems much more reasonable.
https://www.perfect-10.tv/WebStore/ProductList.aspx?pcID=64

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We try to stick to White Rock hens just to keep things standardized. No one
likes to have a back order on a fowl delay things.


Ben West  wrote ..
> If you need, here is a close up of that 3foot tripod screwed down to 
> the treated lumber base:
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy-dmEYKRic/TMY7XkHK6RI/AI4
> /tuJvBzKGcug/w909-h682-no/roof_tripod_base_small.jpg
> 
> I think those are 1/4" lag screws and washers.  The hen is optional.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:
> 
> > I like what you did here:
> > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/A
> > Io/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
> > I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision 
> > how to make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a 
> > photo, I may run with this design.
> > I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the 
> > lumber store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement
blocks.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West  wrote:
> >
> >> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing 
> >> around with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, 
> >> mounted to a base made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down 
> >> with cinderblocks.  Then, I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 
> >> 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a couple conduit hangers.
> >>
> >> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
> >> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
> >>
> >> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would 
> >> definitely have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these 
> >> things in batch, to conserve on labor.)
> >>
> >> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest 
> >> to you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were 
> >> rearranged into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace 
> >> spanning the mouth of the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch 
> >> vertical mast was replaced with a completely straight section of 
> >> EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I originally happened to have
lying around.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman
wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello list,
> >>>
> >>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. 
> >>> I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi 
> >>> diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast 
> >>> then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear 
> >>> line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof 
> >>> without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google 
> >>> searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' 
> >>> or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also
very pricey, $150 or more each.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft 
> >>> square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including
a 5ft mast?
> >>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all 
> >>> that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
> >>>
> >>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>> Josh
> >>>
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> >>
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-31 Thread Ben West
Depends on the roof material.

Such a rig on the ~100year old wood/tarpaper roofs here in St. Louis would
probably cause a depression to form under the bucket.  This is why I have
to use rather wide base under the cinderblocks, to spread the load across a
couple rafters.

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:25 AM, Joe Miller  wrote:

> How about using a 5 gallon bucket and concrete a 5 ft pole into it. Lowes
> bucket = $5.00, bag of concrete = $3.73, and a 1 ½ EMT conduit = $12.00.
> All parts for less than $25.00
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Joshua Zukerman
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:58 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
> Nanostation + 5ft mast
>
> ** **
>
> Hello list,
>
> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>
> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of
> metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe
> a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed.
> Won't ever need to go higher.
>
> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Josh
>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-31 Thread Joshua Zukerman
Thanks for the close up. I think I will go with this design as I can get
all of those parts locally. I like the wide base, to distribute weight more
evenly.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:13 PM, Ben West  wrote:

> If you need, here is a close up of that 3foot tripod screwed down to the
> treated lumber base:
>
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy-dmEYKRic/TMY7XkHK6RI/AI4/tuJvBzKGcug/w909-h682-no/roof_tripod_base_small.jpg
>
> I think those are 1/4" lag screws and washers.  The hen is optional.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:
>
>> I like what you did here:
>> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/AIo/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
>> I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision how
>> to make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a photo, I
>> may run with this design.
>> I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the lumber
>> store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement blocks.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West  wrote:
>>
>>> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
>>> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
>>> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
>>> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
>>> couple conduit hangers.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
>>> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>>>
>>> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
>>> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
>>> conserve on labor.)
>>>
>>> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
>>> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
>>> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
>>> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
>>> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
>>> originally happened to have lying around.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>>>
 Hello list,

 I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
 going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
 across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
 non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
 on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
 an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
 non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
 larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

 Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
 of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
 Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
 needed. Won't ever need to go higher.

 Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

 Thanks in advance,

 Josh

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-31 Thread Joe Miller
How about using a 5 gallon bucket and concrete a 5 ft pole into it. Lowes
bucket = $5.00, bag of concrete = $3.73, and a 1 ½ EMT conduit = $12.00. All
parts for less than $25.00

 

 

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Behalf Of Joshua Zukerman
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:58 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
Nanostation + 5ft mast

 

Hello list,

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going
to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a
highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof
mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas
stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my
Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or
wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very
pricey, $150 or more each.

Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of
metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a
single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed.
Won't ever need to go higher.

Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

Thanks in advance,

Josh

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Scott Carullo

Piece of aluminum 5/16" thick maybe 12x12 inches or whatever suites you - I 
usually get them 8x12 so they fit on top of a wall nicely when needed.  
Drill 1/2" hole about an inch in from each corner.  Weld an aluminum pipe 
to the middle about 2ft tall maybe 1" to 1-1/4 diameter.  Drill small hole 
near base so water can get out.  Take that and a tube of good silicone 
caulk and you can put a two foot pole that won't rust anywhere you want it 
(shingle, metal roof, soffit, wood panel, fiberglass, cement, stucco etc 
etc...)  It wont come off, you don't have to drill any holes and you can 
explain that the roof under it is more waterproof and stronger than it was 
before you put it there.  I should sell em and call then plop-a-pole's  

Scott Carullo
Technical Operations
855-FLSPEED x102


From: "Joshua Zukerman" 
Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 1:58 PM
To: "WISPA General List" 
Subject: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single 
Nanostation + 5ft mast

Hello list,

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am 
going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally 
across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a 
non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is 
on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount 
an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger 
non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much 
larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of 
metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe 
a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. 
Won't ever need to go higher.

Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

Thanks in advance,

Josh


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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Jeremy
Skywalker's $55 one doesn't have a mast but you can grab a piece of conduit
from Home Depot for ten bucks and cut in half and use one for each side.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Or you could use one of these with a mast for 17.99
> http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount__SKY6003.aspx
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> Skywalker has essentially the same thing for $55
>> http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount-Base-%28mast-not-included%29__SKY32816.aspx
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>>
>>> RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=48
>>>
>>> -mike
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus  wrote:
>>>
>>> I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
>>> years ago on a flat roof.
>>>
>>>  ------
>>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
>>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Joey Craig
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
>>> Nanostation + 5ft mast
>>>
>>>  We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are
>>> free for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
>>> On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, "Joshua Zukerman"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>>>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>>>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>>>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>>>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>>>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>>>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>>>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>>>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>>>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>>>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>>>
>>>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Jeremy
Skywalker has essentially the same thing for $55
http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount-Base-%28mast-not-included%29__SKY32816.aspx


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:

> RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:
>
> http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=48
>
> -mike
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus  wrote:
>
> I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
> years ago on a flat roof.
>
>  --
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Joey Craig
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
> Nanostation + 5ft mast
>
>  We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are
> free for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
> On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, "Joshua Zukerman"  wrote:
>
>>  Hello list,
>>
>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>
>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>
>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Jeremy
Or you could use one of these with a mast for 17.99
http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount__SKY6003.aspx



On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Jeremy  wrote:

> Skywalker has essentially the same thing for $55
> http://skywalker.com/Products/Skywalker-Signature-Series-Non-Penetrating-Roof-Mount-Base-%28mast-not-included%29__SKY32816.aspx
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 7:16 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>
>> RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:
>>
>>
>> http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=48
>>
>> -mike
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus  wrote:
>>
>> I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
>> years ago on a flat roof.
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
>> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Joey Craig
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single
>> Nanostation + 5ft mast
>>
>>  We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are
>> free for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
>> On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, "Joshua Zukerman"  wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello list,
>>>
>>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>>
>>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>>
>>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Mike Lyon
RF arnor has them for 75 dollars:

http://www.rfarmor.com/cart/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=48

-mike

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 30, 2013, at 18:12, Dave Hulsebus  wrote:

> I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few 
> years ago on a flat roof.
> 
> From: wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] On 
> Behalf Of Joey Craig
> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 2:04 PM
> To: WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single 
> Nanostation + 5ft mast
> 
> We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are free for 
> the asking most of the time from area businesses.
> 
> On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, "Joshua Zukerman"  wrote:
>> Hello list,
>> 
>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going 
>> to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a 
>> highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof 
>> mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas 
>> stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my 
>> Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or 
>> wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very 
>> pricey, $150 or more each.
>> 
>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of 
>> metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a 
>> single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. 
>> Won't ever need to go higher.
>> 
>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance,
>> 
>> Josh
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Dave Hulsebus
I used a 5 gallon bucket, a bag of quikcrete, and a pipe for a NS5 a few
years ago on a flat roof.

  _  

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We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are free
for the asking most of the time from area businesses.

On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, "Joshua Zukerman"  wrote:


Hello list,

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going
to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a
highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof
mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas
stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my
Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or
wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very
pricey, $150 or more each.


Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of
metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a
single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed.
Won't ever need to go higher.


Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?


Thanks in advance,

Josh


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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Jeremy
Harbor Freight foam puzzle mats work alright as well for pads.  $6.99 for 4
on sale almost every week.  I'm with Josh though.  A pallet with some mats
under it works wonders.  If you find a source for the plastic pallets they
work even better.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:41 PM,  wrote:

> We try to stick to White Rock hens just to keep things standardized. No
> one likes to have a back order on a fowl delay things.
>
>
> Ben West  wrote ..
> > If you need, here is a close up of that 3foot tripod screwed down to the
> > treated lumber base:
> >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy-dmEYKRic/TMY7XkHK6RI/AI4/tuJvBzKGcug/w909-h682-no/roof_tripod_base_small.jpg
> >
> > I think those are 1/4" lag screws and washers.  The hen is optional.
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman 
> wrote:
> >
> > > I like what you did here:
> > >
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/AIo/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
> > > I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision
> how
> > > to make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a
> photo, I
> > > may run with this design.
> > > I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the
> lumber
> > > store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement blocks.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West  wrote:
> > >
> > >> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing
> around
> > >> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a
> base
> > >> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.
>  Then,
> > >> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4",
> using a
> > >> couple conduit hangers.
> > >>
> > >> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
> > >> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
> > >>
> > >> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
> > >> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in
> batch, to
> > >> conserve on labor.)
> > >>
> > >> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
> > >> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were
> rearranged
> > >> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the
> mouth of
> > >> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was
> replaced with
> > >> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag
> piece I
> > >> originally happened to have lying around.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman  >wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello list,
> > >>>
> > >>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I
> am
> > >>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi
> diagonally
> > >>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
> > >>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear
> line-of-sight is
> > >>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to
> mount
> > >>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
> > >>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
> > >>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
> > >>>
> > >>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square
> out
> > >>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft
> mast?
> > >>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all
> that is
> > >>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
> > >>>
> > >>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks in advance,
> > >>>
> > >>> Josh
> > >>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread wispa
We try to stick to White Rock hens just to keep things standardized. No one 
likes to have a back order on a fowl delay things.


Ben West  wrote ..
> If you need, here is a close up of that 3foot tripod screwed down to the
> treated lumber base:
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy-dmEYKRic/TMY7XkHK6RI/AI4/tuJvBzKGcug/w909-h682-no/roof_tripod_base_small.jpg
> 
> I think those are 1/4" lag screws and washers.  The hen is optional.
> 
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:
> 
> > I like what you did here:
> > https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/AIo/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
> > I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision how
> > to make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a photo, I
> > may run with this design.
> > I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the lumber
> > store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement blocks.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West  wrote:
> >
> >> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
> >> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
> >> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
> >> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
> >> couple conduit hangers.
> >>
> >> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
> >> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
> >>
> >> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
> >> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
> >> conserve on labor.)
> >>
> >> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
> >> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
> >> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
> >> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
> >> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
> >> originally happened to have lying around.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hello list,
> >>>
> >>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
> >>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
> >>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
> >>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
> >>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
> >>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
> >>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
> >>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
> >>>
> >>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
> >>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
> >>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
> >>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
> >>>
> >>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance,
> >>>
> >>> Josh
> >>>
> >>> ___
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> >>> Wireless@wispa.org
> >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
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> >> http://gowasabi.net
> >> b...@gowasabi.net
> >> 314-246-9434
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Clay Stewart
I wonder if you could bolt a 5' stanchion to a mat, which the mat's weight
would hold such a small radio with no issue. Like a four bolt foot plate on
a pole...???

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> I have used horse mats from Tractor Supply... work very well and last.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure the roof is rubber, but I haven't been on it yet. Roof mats
>> are definitely a good idea.
>> Years ago when I worked at a WISP, I think we used rubber truck mud
>> flaps. Cheap and can be purchased locally.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
>>
>>>  B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack
>>> and eat right through it.
>>> I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of
>>> a multi-million dollar house.
>>>
>>> At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask
>>> around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
>>>
>>> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
>>> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
>>> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
>>> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
>>> couple conduit hangers.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
>>> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>>>
>>> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
>>> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
>>> conserve on labor.)
>>>
>>> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
>>> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
>>> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
>>> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
>>> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
>>> originally happened to have lying around.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>>>
  Hello list,

 I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
 going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
 across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
 non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
 on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
 an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
 non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
 larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

  Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square
 out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
 Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
 needed. Won't ever need to go higher.

  Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

  Thanks in advance,

 Josh

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Clay Stewart
I have used horse mats from Tractor Supply... work very well and last.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:

> Pretty sure the roof is rubber, but I haven't been on it yet. Roof mats
> are definitely a good idea.
> Years ago when I worked at a WISP, I think we used rubber truck mud flaps.
> Cheap and can be purchased locally.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
>
>>  B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack
>> and eat right through it.
>> I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of
>> a multi-million dollar house.
>>
>> At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask
>> around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.
>>
>> ryan
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
>>
>> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
>> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
>> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
>> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
>> couple conduit hangers.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
>> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>>
>> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
>> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
>> conserve on labor.)
>>
>> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
>> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
>> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
>> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
>> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
>> originally happened to have lying around.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello list,
>>>
>>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>>
>>>  Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square
>>> out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>>
>>>  Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>>
>>>  Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>> ___
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>>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> http://gowasabi.net
>> b...@gowasabi.net
>> 314-246-9434
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Joshua Zukerman
Pretty sure the roof is rubber, but I haven't been on it yet. Roof mats are
definitely a good idea.
Years ago when I worked at a WISP, I think we used rubber truck mud flaps.
Cheap and can be purchased locally.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:

>  B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack
> and eat right through it.
> I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of a
> multi-million dollar house.
>
> At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask
> around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.
>
> ryan
>
>
> On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
>
> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
> couple conduit hangers.
>
> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>
> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
> conserve on labor.)
>
> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
> originally happened to have lying around.
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>
>>  Hello list,
>>
>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>
>>  Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>
>>  Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>
>>  Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Ben West
Yep, sorry for not being diligent about mentioning (or photographing) the
roof mat.  None of the rooftops I've mounted on are metal, but even still a
roof mat is a good idea to keep the wood from slowly rotting away the
tar-paper or whatever the roof is surfaced with.

Thanks for the tip about using a stall mat!

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:

>  B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack
> and eat right through it.
> I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of a
> multi-million dollar house.
>
> At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask
> around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.
>
> ryan
>
>
> On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
>
> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
> couple conduit hangers.
>
> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>
> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
> conserve on labor.)
>
> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
> originally happened to have lying around.
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>
>>  Hello list,
>>
>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>
>>  Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>
>>  Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>
>>  Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Josh
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Ryan Spott
B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack 
and eat right through it.
I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of 
a multi-million dollar house.


At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask 
around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.


ryan

On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing 
around with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted 
to a base made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with 
cinderblocks.  Then, I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or 
better yet 3/4", using a couple conduit hangers.


http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
http://goo.gl/6Wu0My

Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely 
have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in 
batch, to conserve on labor.)


I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to 
you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were 
rearranged into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace 
spanning the mouth of the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch 
vertical mast was replaced with a completely straight section of EMT, 
instead of that weird zig-zag piece I originally happened to have 
lying around.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman > wrote:


Hello list,

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client.
I am going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi
diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast
then to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear
line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof
without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google
searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3'
or wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts.
Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft
square out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or
including a 5ft mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh
it down would be all that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher.

Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

Thanks in advance,

Josh

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Mike Hammett
http://www.balticnetworks.com/maxxwave-adjustable-non-penetrating-roof-mount.html
 




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From: "Joshua Zukerman"  
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Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2013 12:58:23 PM 
Subject: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 
5ft mast 



Hello list, 

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am going to 
be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally across a 
highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a non-penetrating roof 
mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas 
stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my 
Google searches come up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or 
wider, which are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, 
$150 or more each. 


Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of 
metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe a 
single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed. Won't 
ever need to go higher. 


Or do you have another suggestion for mounting? 


Thanks in advance, 

Josh 

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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Ben West
If you need, here is a close up of that 3foot tripod screwed down to the
treated lumber base:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uy-dmEYKRic/TMY7XkHK6RI/AI4/tuJvBzKGcug/w909-h682-no/roof_tripod_base_small.jpg

I think those are 1/4" lag screws and washers.  The hen is optional.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:

> I like what you did here:
> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/AIo/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
> I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision how
> to make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a photo, I
> may run with this design.
> I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the lumber
> store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement blocks.
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West  wrote:
>
>> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
>> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
>> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
>> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
>> couple conduit hangers.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
>> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>>
>> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
>> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
>> conserve on labor.)
>>
>> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
>> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
>> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
>> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
>> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
>> originally happened to have lying around.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>>
>>> Hello list,
>>>
>>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>>
>>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>>
>>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Joshua Zukerman
I like what you did here:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uSvf_bhcyXE/TMY6GYrz3HI/AIo/5ErZI4Y93D4/w560-h746-no/wasabinet_bolita_small.jpg
I sort of had that thought in my mind already, but couldn't envision how to
make a bottom piece to hold down the tripod. Now that I see a photo, I may
run with this design.
I can get the tripods and masts locally, plus a quick trip to the lumber
store to pick up pressure treated lumber and a couple of cement blocks.

Thanks.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:14 PM, Ben West  wrote:

> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
> couple conduit hangers.
>
> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>
> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
> conserve on labor.)
>
> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
> originally happened to have lying around.
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>
>> Hello list,
>>
>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>
>> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out
>> of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>
>> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Josh
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Scott Reed

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On 7/30/2013 1:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:

Hello list,

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am 
going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi 
diagonally across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then 
to a non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear 
line-of-sight is on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without 
much of a lip to mount an antenna to. All of my Google searches come 
up with much larger non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which 
are designed for much larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 
or more each.


Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square 
out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft 
mast? Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all 
that is needed. Won't ever need to go higher.


Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

Thanks in advance,

Josh


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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Ben West
For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
couple conduit hangers.

http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
http://goo.gl/6Wu0My

Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely have
a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
conserve on labor.)

I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to you,
is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged into
a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of the
"V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with a
completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
originally happened to have lying around.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>
> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of
> metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe
> a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed.
> Won't ever need to go higher.
>
> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Josh
>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Joey Craig
We use wood pallets with cement blocks when needed. Wood pallets are free
for the asking most of the time from area businesses.
On Jul 30, 2013 12:58 PM, "Joshua Zukerman"  wrote:

> Hello list,
>
> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>
> Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of
> metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe
> a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed.
> Won't ever need to go higher.
>
> Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Josh
>
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[WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

2013-07-30 Thread Joshua Zukerman
Hello list,

I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.

Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square out of
metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast? Maybe
a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is needed.
Won't ever need to go higher.

Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?

Thanks in advance,

Josh
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