Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
You can also boot into INSERT,KNOPPIX or XP Live and run a chkdsk /r with out taking the drive out. That is, if there isn't any physical damage to the platters, head, etc... -Richard M. I've used this exact one and recovered all useful data from several friend's failing laptop drives...and, wow, if you want to be someone's friend for life just have one of these $6 baby wonders handy. An NTFS disk repair is often helpful if you can't get good data: do it under MY COMPUER and right click on the drive, properties, tools, error checking...or, run CHKDSK from the command box with the fix option. Not sure about Mozilla in POP3 mode. I only know the IMAP configuration where the messages are on the server. However, you might try some path that looks like this: C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\042nmj9j.slt\Mail\Local Folders Be careful, the path string may be too long for a DOS program to handle on yourparticular disk. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brian RohrbacherSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:14 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failurehttp://www.pcconnection.com/Search.asp?Term=laptop+to+ide+hard+drive+adapter&Offset=0&DefSort=Y&om=searchThis is the one I got. The buy it now from ebay could not be overnighted so I got this one. The ebay one is on the way. If you want the ebay one, let me know. When it comes in I can sell it. I don't want 2 of them.Mario Pommier wrote: con you post the ebay link or the adapter name?MBrian Rohrbacher wrote: I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure These are the guys I might send it to. After my software scan I will decide. After talking with them they sound ok. Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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my email was stuck.. its a few days late, but perhaps this will help... Buy a USB 300 GB drive.. USB 2 is fast and reliable. We've had good luck with Seagate drives. Might cost you $250 - run an overnight backup, or just link it in and back items up you need. Also, most replacement drive makers provide you with an image upgrade utility. I've done with with my notebook. Get an upgraded drive, install that in a USB 2 case Here's one for $10 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817145751 We've used it.. Put your new drive in the case, image copy the drive over to the USB mini drive. Swap the drives, and you have your old drive and data in a $10 case. Here's the drive I used for an upgrade. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822145092 $140 100GB Since then I use minimum 2 systems - completely identical OS and tools. I move critical bits among 3 systems, with one off-site. My only advice on external USB drives is to ''bolt' them down as much as possible. I had one fail because it was torn off the desk and flew into the ground a few feet away - a foot caught a cable.. The external 2.5 inch drive is the coolest items. no external powersupply. easy to pack along.. Wish you the best in the recovery process. I'll bet it never happens to you again. Joe Fiero wrote: Brian, If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. Good luck. Joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
I've used this exact one and recovered all useful data from several friend's failing laptop drives...and, wow, if you want to be someone's friend for life just have one of these $6 baby wonders handy. An NTFS disk repair is often helpful if you can't get good data: do it under MY COMPUER and right click on the drive, properties, tools, error checking...or, run CHKDSK from the command box with the fix option. Not sure about Mozilla in POP3 mode. I only know the IMAP configuration where the messages are on the server. However, you might try some path that looks like this: C:\Documents and Settings\yourusername\Application Data\Mozilla\Profiles\default\042nmj9j.slt\Mail\Local Folders Be careful, the path string may be too long for a DOS program to handle on yourparticular disk. . . . j o n a t h a n -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Brian RohrbacherSent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 4:14 PMTo: WISPA General ListSubject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failurehttp://www.pcconnection.com/Search.asp?Term=laptop+to+ide+hard+drive+adapter&Offset=0&DefSort=Y&om=searchThis is the one I got. The buy it now from ebay could not be overnighted so I got this one. The ebay one is on the way. If you want the ebay one, let me know. When it comes in I can sell it. I don't want 2 of them.Mario Pommier wrote: con you post the ebay link or the adapter name?MBrian Rohrbacher wrote: I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure These are the guys I might send it to. After my software scan I will decide. After talking with them they sound ok. Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Good job Brian, good talk too. Original message >Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:20:58 -0500 >From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'WISPA General List'" > >I got it. What I have to do was install mozilla on the desktop machine >and then I copied the whole thunderbird folder to my desktop machine >from the laptop drive and walla I have all 4 email settingd (all account >being checked) all 10,000 or so emails in trash (my searchable archive) >and all my inbox and folder emails. I am back in biusiness and didn't >even have to use the data recovery software. > >I have learned a valuable lesson here. Always print things out on paper >AND backup. In the future, I will approach failed HDs like this. I >boot up computer and see the drive is bad. Could be a one time thing, >so restart. If it is still bad I will only power up one more time and >that will be when hooked up as slave. I will see if I can get to it, if >not, I would run software for data recovery. This way, it was only >booted 2 times after it failed. Once to verify and one to recover. If >recovery is a no go, then it gets sent to the clean room with minimum >damage (I hope) > >Brian > > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Peter R. >Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:44 PM >To: WISPA General List >Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > >Brian Rohrbacher wrote: > >>I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE >>ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac >>list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I >>can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them >>in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? >> >>Reliable Internet >> >Mozilla on Win 2000 and XP hides data under Documents and >Settings/USER/Application Data/mozilla/profiles >or in the thunderbird folder >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: >11/29/2005 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: >11/29/2005 > > >-- >WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > >Subscribe/Unsubscribe: >http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > >Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
http://www.pcconnection.com/Search.asp?Term=laptop+to+ide+hard+drive+adapter&Offset=0&DefSort=Y&om=search This is the one I got. The buy it now from ebay could not be overnighted so I got this one. The ebay one is on the way. If you want the ebay one, let me know. When it comes in I can sell it. I don't want 2 of them. Mario Pommier wrote: con you post the ebay link or the adapter name? M Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure These are the guys I might send it to. After my software scan I will decide. After talking with them they sound ok. Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Don't forget your off-site backups! Paper and hard-drives are no good in event of fire and other Acts of God. "Acts of God" is my favorite bit of legalese, beating even "Quiet Enjoyment".-- Dylan OliverPrimaverity, LLC -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
con you post the ebay link or the adapter name? M Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure These are the guys I might send it to. After my software scan I will decide. After talking with them they sound ok. Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
I got it. What I have to do was install mozilla on the desktop machine and then I copied the whole thunderbird folder to my desktop machine from the laptop drive and walla I have all 4 email settingd (all account being checked) all 10,000 or so emails in trash (my searchable archive) and all my inbox and folder emails. I am back in biusiness and didn't even have to use the data recovery software. I have learned a valuable lesson here. Always print things out on paper AND backup. In the future, I will approach failed HDs like this. I boot up computer and see the drive is bad. Could be a one time thing, so restart. If it is still bad I will only power up one more time and that will be when hooked up as slave. I will see if I can get to it, if not, I would run software for data recovery. This way, it was only booted 2 times after it failed. Once to verify and one to recover. If recovery is a no go, then it gets sent to the clean room with minimum damage (I hope) Brian -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter R. Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2005 3:44 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Brian Rohrbacher wrote: >I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE >ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac >list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I >can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them >in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? > >Reliable Internet > Mozilla on Win 2000 and XP hides data under Documents and Settings/USER/Application Data/mozilla/profiles or in the thunderbird folder -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: 11/29/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: 11/29/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Brian Rohrbacher wrote: I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? Reliable Internet Mozilla on Win 2000 and XP hides data under Documents and Settings/USER/Application Data/mozilla/profiles or in the thunderbird folder -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
I got the adapter off ebay. I plugged it into the desktop and I HAVE ACCESS! I was able to get my important stuff (quickbooks, IP and mac list, company info and oictures) I am working on mozilla right now. I can find wehre the emails would be stored at? I had thousands of them in folders and what not. Anyone know where mozilla stores emails at? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:16 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure These are the guys I might send it to. After my software scan I will decide. After talking with them they sound ok. Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and > run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I > will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... > www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/186 - Release Date: 11/29/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
I have a laptop sized usb hard drive adapter. It allows me to get data off of a working drive. Not sure if that'll help you in this case but it's been a handy toy to have around. Marlon(509) 982-2181 Equipment sales(408) 907-6910 (Vonage) Consulting services42846865 (icq) And I run my own wisp!64.146.146.12 (net meeting)www.odessaoffice.com/wirelesswww.odessaoffice.com/marlon/cam - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:33 PM Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
These are the guys I might send it to. After my software scan I will decide. After talking with them they sound ok. Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Frank Muto Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:32 AM To: WISPA General List Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and > run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I > will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... > www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Note on Gillwares website about their one exception to a no-charge for data recovery. Broken Warranty Seals If the warranty seals are broken, we cannot offer the no recovery no fee deal. Because previously-serviced drives without intact warranty seals usually require significantly more time for us to diagnose and repair, we require a $150 upfront surcharge for servicing these drives. This surcharge is non-refundable. In addition, the base fee for servicing a drive without intact warranty seals is an extra $500 for a total of $1028.99 for Windows based drives when we're successful. If the platters have been visibly damaged during your attempt you should save your money and not send it. If it was a multi-platter drive and you attempted to remove the platters you should save your money and not send it. Frank Muto President/Ceo FSM Marketing Group, Inc Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIA - Original Message - From: "Brian Rohrbacher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'WISPA General List'" Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 11:09 AM Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and > run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I > will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... > www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com > -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
I have the adapter on the way. I will plug it into my desktop once and run a software recover utility once to see what happens. After this, I will send it off to a cleanroom. If a drive needs cleanroom work... www.mjtdata.com says to send it to www.gillware.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Gayle Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 10:45 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure I never asked. I just am amazed at his results. Did you check his site and email him? Sean Gayle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure $100 Does he have a clean room? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Gayle Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Contact this guy. He has done wonders for us. Charges $10 to look at it. Your charges for shipping to him. If he can salvage data from it he usually charges $100, more for a full recovery. Email him at M. J. Thompson Data Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mjtdata.com Robert Reyes (Owner) M. J. Thompson Data Recovery 1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264 www.mjtdata.com Sean Gayle JohnnyO's good twin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure This is the route I will take. I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and I will NOT power it up again. My external backup drive just got here Friday too! I was a day late. :( I have found a few places with flat rates at $700 or so. I will keep looking. Anyone have a Dell 8600? Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it? I want to know it it rattles. Just for peace of mind. I hope it rattles. If anyone does not have backups, go do it now. THIS SUCKS. I hve Dell complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data. Joe Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM: > Brian, > > If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any > additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" > on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it > only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to > spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the > damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a > few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. > > I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the > experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a > good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I > lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we > ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I > was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. > > Good luck. > > Joe -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/184 - Release Date: 11/27/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
I never asked. I just am amazed at his results. Did you check his site and email him? Sean Gayle -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:49 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure $100 Does he have a clean room? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Gayle Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Contact this guy. He has done wonders for us. Charges $10 to look at it. Your charges for shipping to him. If he can salvage data from it he usually charges $100, more for a full recovery. Email him at M. J. Thompson Data Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mjtdata.com Robert Reyes (Owner) M. J. Thompson Data Recovery 1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264 www.mjtdata.com Sean Gayle JohnnyO's good twin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure This is the route I will take. I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and I will NOT power it up again. My external backup drive just got here Friday too! I was a day late. :( I have found a few places with flat rates at $700 or so. I will keep looking. Anyone have a Dell 8600? Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it? I want to know it it rattles. Just for peace of mind. I hope it rattles. If anyone does not have backups, go do it now. THIS SUCKS. I hve Dell complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data. Joe Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM: > Brian, > > If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any > additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" > on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it > only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to > spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the > damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a > few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. > > I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the > experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a > good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I > lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we > ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I > was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. > > Good luck. > > Joe > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Hey Ron. If you feel sorry for me, why don't you buy me lunch (ya right, you’re a WISP, you don’t have money) :) We're not too far apart. I'd like to shake your hand and talk "WISP" over lunch someday. Hit me up. I'll meet you halfway. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ron Wallace Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:27 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Frank, Thanks for the tip, I needed this and Brians Misfortune has prompted me to buy, I'm downloading now. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
$100 Does he have a clean room? Reliable Internet -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sean Gayle Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 3:25 PM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Contact this guy. He has done wonders for us. Charges $10 to look at it. Your charges for shipping to him. If he can salvage data from it he usually charges $100, more for a full recovery. Email him at M. J. Thompson Data Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mjtdata.com Robert Reyes (Owner) M. J. Thompson Data Recovery 1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264 www.mjtdata.com Sean Gayle JohnnyO's good twin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure This is the route I will take. I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and I will NOT power it up again. My external backup drive just got here Friday too! I was a day late. :( I have found a few places with flat rates at $700 or so. I will keep looking. Anyone have a Dell 8600? Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it? I want to know it it rattles. Just for peace of mind. I hope it rattles. If anyone does not have backups, go do it now. THIS SUCKS. I hve Dell complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data. Joe Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM: > Brian, > > If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any > additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" > on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it > only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to > spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the > damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a > few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. > > I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the > experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a > good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I > lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we > ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I > was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. > > Good luck. > > Joe > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
If all else fails, get with us. We have a couple of good geeks that have recovered my hard drive in the past. If they can’t do it, it probably can’t be done. Regards, David Weddell Director of Sales 260 273 2662 Cell 260 827 2551 Office 800 363 4881 Ext 2551 Toll Free [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.onlyinternet.net www.oibw.net From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:26 AM To: 'WISPA General List' Subject: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Got a couple leads off Google, but I want to use someone that one of you has used if possible. http://www.gillware.com/?campaign=google1 http://www.drivesavers.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Frank, Thanks for the tip, I needed this and Brians Misfortune has prompted me to buy, I'm downloading now. Ron Wallace Hahnron, Inc. 220 S. Jackson St. Addison, MI 49220 Phone: (517) 547-8410 Mobile: (517) 605-4542 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Yes, it should probably rattle. If you got it to work at all, there probably isn't any damage that you could detect by shaking it :) Dell uses a few different brands of hard drive in their notebooks. The Fujitsu and Toshiba drives that I have seen all rattle. In fact my Toshiba says "RATTLE NOISE IS NORMAL" right on the top sticker... - Tony On 11/27/2005 1:40 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] created: [...] > Anyone have a Dell 8600? > Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it? I want to know it it > rattles. Just for peace of mind. I hope it rattles. [...] -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
Re: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Hi Brian, I've been in your situation before and I understand how bad it sucks. Fortunately, I had a week-old backup, but I did try data recovery anyway to see what they could recover. I sent it to Data Recovery Services in Dallas (http://www.datarecovery.net/). I evaluated about 5 other companies (including the "leader" onTrack) and decided to use them because they seemed competent when I spoke with a technician over the phone and had a pricing model that I liked. (I would not use a one-price-for-all service because they have a disincentive to attempt recovery if they think that it will cost them more than the price you paid -- and you have no way to know whether they decided not to attempt recovery or if the data was actually unrecoverable.) DRS was unable to do any recovery for the initial $99 assessment and estimated that it would take about $500 to attempt the next stage. The data wasn't worth more than a few hundred $$ so I opted to return the drive to Dell under warranty (which they accepted even after it was opened by DRS.) My drive was a little further gone than yours -- it was doing the head-park clicking when it was powered on and it would not even show up during the POST drive detection. Depending on the value of your data you may want to try and connect it to a desktop machine and try to recover the data yourself. I've done this a few times when the data wasn't that important that its loss was worth < ~$300. On at least 4 occasions I was able to recover all of the data I needed. Here's what I did. This may or may not work for you (don't blame me when you create a hunk of aluminum out of your drive using these instructions :) Read all of the instructions before you begin. I'm assuming a relatively decent knowledge of PC innards and Windows. If the instructions are confusing and the information has any value (on the desktop or notebook drives,) pay someone to recover the data for you. Things you need: - Desktop PC running the same or newer OS (Windows XP is explained below) and an unused IDE controller/cable. Disconnect any devices from that IDE cable (CD drive, etc.) - Notebook to desktop IDE converter like this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/2_W0QQitemZ6825102710 - Working knowledge of the command shell "xcopy" utility. "xcopy /?" should give you a good start. Make sure you use the /c switch to continue on errors. http://www.microsoft.com/resources/documentation/windows/xp/all/proddocs/en-us/xcopy.mspx Preparation --- Be careful when handling the notebook drive. Grab it gently by the sides. Never press on the top and try not to touch the electronics on the bottom. Static electricity is also your enemy. Keep yourself and all the components at the same electrical potential by connecting them together electrically (like by using a grounding system with a wrist strap.) If any of the components are grounded then you should be too. Backup all the data on the desktop PC that you will be using. You could end up frying that drive too. Make directories called "c:\nbDrive" "c:\nbDrive\important" "c:\nbDrive\all" on the desktop machine and make sure that you have at least enough space free for all of the files on the failing drive times two. Write down all of the files that are important to you on the failing drive (with full path names.) Don't forget about Outlook data files, Quickbooks data files, etc. Rank them in the order of importance. This is the order that you will try to recover them. You want to minimize the spin-up/down cycles on the failing drive so power up the desktop computer with it disconnected and go into the BIOS to make sure that the Primary device on the secondary (or whatever controller you will connect your drive to) IDE controller is active and set to auto-detection. Turn on the display of POST information in the BIOS (so you can see the drives as they are being detected.) Practice going into the Windows Safe Mode selection screen by pressing F8 repeatedly just after the BIOS POST screen. When you can get to the screen 3x in a row, continue. Connecting the Devices -- Power down the desktop PC (Turn it off with a current-interrupting switch or remove the power cord. Most newer computers still have current running through many of the components when they are powered off with a "soft-switch." Connect the notebook drive ADAPTER (not the drive yet) to the Primary connector on the IDE cable. Nothing should be connected to the Secondary drive connector. Connect the power to the drive adapter. You may have to remove the caddy (four screws usually on the bottom) and a wedge-shaped converter that Dell likes to use on their notebook drives first. I find that a small needle-nose pliers takes it off pretty easily without bending the pins. Pull gently on one side (1mm at a time) and then on the other until it comes off easily from the middle. Connect the notebook adapter to the notebook drive. Make sure that
RE: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Contact this guy. He has done wonders for us. Charges $10 to look at it. Your charges for shipping to him. If he can salvage data from it he usually charges $100, more for a full recovery. Email him at M. J. Thompson Data Recovery [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.mjtdata.com Robert Reyes (Owner) M. J. Thompson Data Recovery 1177 Elm Street, Lynden, Washington 98264 www.mjtdata.com Sean Gayle JohnnyO's good twin -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:40 PM To: WISPA General List Subject: Re: RE: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure This is the route I will take. I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and I will NOT power it up again. My external backup drive just got here Friday too! I was a day late. :( I have found a few places with flat rates at $700 or so. I will keep looking. Anyone have a Dell 8600? Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it? I want to know it it rattles. Just for peace of mind. I hope it rattles. If anyone does not have backups, go do it now. THIS SUCKS. I hve Dell complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data. Joe Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM: > Brian, > > If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any > additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" > on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it > only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to > spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the > damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a > few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. > > I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the > experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a > good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I > lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we > ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I > was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. > > Good luck. > > Joe > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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This is the route I will take. I have tried to boot it 6 or 7 times and I will NOT power it up again. My external backup drive just got here Friday too! I was a day late. :( I have found a few places with flat rates at $700 or so. I will keep looking. Anyone have a Dell 8600? Will you take the hard drive out and jiggle it? I want to know it it rattles. Just for peace of mind. I hope it rattles. If anyone does not have backups, go do it now. THIS SUCKS. I hve Dell complete care, so laptop replacement is free, but not the data. Joe Fiero <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/27/2005, 04:42:58 PM: > Brian, > > If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any > additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" > on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it > only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to > spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the > damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a > few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. > > I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the > experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a > good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I > lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we > ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I > was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. > > Good luck. > > Joe > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM > To: wireless@wispa.org > Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure > > > > -- > WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org > > Subscribe/Unsubscribe: > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless > > Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Brian, If the data is of importance to you, DO NOTHING! Do not attempt any additional boots. You have head damage, and each RPM is causing "pitting" on the platter surface, literally taking bits of your data with it. Send it only to a lab wit a clean room and one with credentials. Be prepared to spend a minimum of $500 and possibly as much as $2000, depending on the damage, and the amount of data you wish to recover. If it is more than a few Gb, you will also have to send them another hard drive to put it on. I hope you have better luck than I did. I decided that I was as good as the experts and before sending mine to I even tried putting the platters into a good working identical drive I had ling around. It was a fatal error and I lost over 2 years work (for experts, we sure screw the pooch often, don't we ;) I was provided with the above advice by the lab I sent mine to after I was told the data was unrecoverable due to excessive surface damage. Good luck. Joe From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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NTI - http://www.ntius.com has some backup products you may want to consider. Right now they have a product called Shadow 2 for a 99¢ download (Reg. $29.99). Automatic, Continuous Back Up, Native File Format – Easy to Restore, Works in the Background, Schedule back up jobs and Advanced filtering to back up photos, videos, music and data Frank MutoCo-founder - Washington Bureau for ISP Advocacy - WBIATelecom Summit Ad Hoc Committeehttp://gigabytemarch.blog.com/ www.wbia.us - Original Message - From: Brian Rohrbacher To: wireless@wispa.org Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian --No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.orgSubscribe/Unsubscribe:http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wirelessArchives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/ -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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In my experience, most good laptop drives 'rattle' when shaken. I just verified this with a few spares we have around... I'd try this, before I'd send it off... Using a 44pin to 40pin IDE adapter, install the drive on a desktop secondary IDE channel. Make sure that this desktop has the same OS as the laptop had. Boot it up and see if you can access the drive. If so, copy your data files off it right away. It might just be boot sector damage... The last time I used one of those services was in 97'. It was pricey then. I shudder to think what it would cost now www.harddriverecovery.org -- Blair Davis West Michigan Wireless ISP 269-686-8648 Brian Rohrbacher wrote: Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Got a couple leads off Google, but I want to use someone that one of you has used if possible. http://www.gillware.com/?campaign=google1 http://www.drivesavers.com/ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
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Exact message is “A Disk read error occurred” -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brian Rohrbacher Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 12:33 AM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: [WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
[WISPA] OT Hard Drive Failure
Here’s the story. Laptop fell off top of car on expressway (don’t ask). It booted up. I put it back to sleep. I booted it up again and was checking email and it went to blue sceen of death. Now all I get is disk boot failure. When I take hard drive out and shake it, it “rattles” a little. All my company info is on it…not backed up (again, don’t ask). I have heard of places to send hard drives in and have them rescue my data. They take it all apart and what not. Anyone know of as place like this? Brian -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.8/183 - Release Date: 11/25/2005 -- WISPA Wireless List: wireless@wispa.org Subscribe/Unsubscribe: http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless Archives: http://lists.wispa.org/pipermail/wireless/
