RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-22 Thread Chadd Thompson
It seems to have fixed the problem. Been a few days now with no issues.

On a side note though we just came back up from a 19 hour service outage
from AT&T, man those guys piss me off.

This has been a rough month glad its about over.

Hope everyone has a good Christmas, Take some time off and spend some time
with the famliy everyone!!!

Thanks,
Chadd

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Friday, December 22, 2006 9:02 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
>
>
> Chadd,
>
>Did that fix your problem or do you still have issues?
>
> Merry Christmas!
>
> Mac Dearman
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:09 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
>
> Well I did a bit of searching on the trango support forums and found a
> thread of someone with a similar problem. Trango support made a
> recommendation to turn off the maclist filter off on the RU. I went a head
> and turned it off on the RU's, telnet in and issue "maclist filter off"
> command. I did this last night sometime and have not had any issues as of
> yet. Since last week sometime I was having to reboot the BH's
> twice a day or
> more. I will see what happens with it and if this doesn't do it I will let
> you guys know.
>
> Funny thing about this is that about a week ago I was thinking to myself
> "damn those link 10's have ran good the last few years". I was an early
> adopter of the link 10 and had nothing but issues with them for
> the first 6
> months or so after release, I felt like a beta tester. Once they fixed
> software bugs though they have ran well, until now that is.
>
> Problems like this make you realize how quickly and unexpectedly
> things can
> take a crap on you with little or no changes to your network.
>
> Thanks again for the help.
> Chadd
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:43 AM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> >
> > Chadd,
> >
> >   That is a Trango command and it does turn arp off. I have both worlds
> > here
> > - - bridged and routed and I have never had any of my TLink 10's to do
> > that
> > to me. I am not saying that's not your problem - I am just saying I have
> > never had that issue. We have many more than 300 traversing Tlink10
> > backhauls today - - -
> >
> > What firmware are you running? Is there a certain time of the day things
> > go
> > awry? A certain temp? Is there a pps correlation? What is each Tlink
> > plugged
> > in to?
> >
> >
> >
> > Mac
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Todd Barber
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:56 AM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> >
> > Mac,
> >
> > We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue.  Chadd, I would
> > guess
> > it was around 100.
> >
> > Todd Barber
> > Skylink Broadband Internet
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 970-454-9499
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> >
> > telnet:
> >
> > arp -bcast off
> >
> >
> >
> > Mac
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> > Behalf Of Todd Barber
> > Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
> > To: 'WISPA General List'
> > Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> >
> > Chadd,
> >
> > We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely
> bridged.  The
> > root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the
> Trangos we were
> > using as are primary BHs.
> >
> > Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a
> certai

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-22 Thread Mac Dearman
Chadd,

   Did that fix your problem or do you still have issues?

Merry Christmas!

Mac Dearman




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 5:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Well I did a bit of searching on the trango support forums and found a
thread of someone with a similar problem. Trango support made a
recommendation to turn off the maclist filter off on the RU. I went a head
and turned it off on the RU's, telnet in and issue "maclist filter off"
command. I did this last night sometime and have not had any issues as of
yet. Since last week sometime I was having to reboot the BH's twice a day or
more. I will see what happens with it and if this doesn't do it I will let
you guys know.

Funny thing about this is that about a week ago I was thinking to myself
"damn those link 10's have ran good the last few years". I was an early
adopter of the link 10 and had nothing but issues with them for the first 6
months or so after release, I felt like a beta tester. Once they fixed
software bugs though they have ran well, until now that is.

Problems like this make you realize how quickly and unexpectedly things can
take a crap on you with little or no changes to your network.

Thanks again for the help.
Chadd

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:43 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Chadd,
> 
>   That is a Trango command and it does turn arp off. I have both worlds
> here
> - - bridged and routed and I have never had any of my TLink 10's to do
> that
> to me. I am not saying that's not your problem - I am just saying I have
> never had that issue. We have many more than 300 traversing Tlink10
> backhauls today - - -
> 
> What firmware are you running? Is there a certain time of the day things
> go
> awry? A certain temp? Is there a pps correlation? What is each Tlink
> plugged
> in to?
> 
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:56 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Mac,
> 
> We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue.  Chadd, I would
> guess
> it was around 100.
> 
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> telnet:
> 
> arp -bcast off
> 
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Chadd,
> 
> We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
> root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
> using as are primary BHs.
> 
> Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
> ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.
> 
> As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
> Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units
> is
> "maclist reset".
> 
> We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
> number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.
> 
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
> sure if everyone is on both lists.
> 
> 
> I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
> AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands,
> Trango,
> MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different frequen

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-20 Thread Todd Barber
Chadd,

It seems every time I have a thought about how good something is running it
croaks :)

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 4:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Well I did a bit of searching on the trango support forums and found a
thread of someone with a similar problem. Trango support made a
recommendation to turn off the maclist filter off on the RU. I went a head
and turned it off on the RU's, telnet in and issue "maclist filter off"
command. I did this last night sometime and have not had any issues as of
yet. Since last week sometime I was having to reboot the BH's twice a day or
more. I will see what happens with it and if this doesn't do it I will let
you guys know.

Funny thing about this is that about a week ago I was thinking to myself
"damn those link 10's have ran good the last few years". I was an early
adopter of the link 10 and had nothing but issues with them for the first 6
months or so after release, I felt like a beta tester. Once they fixed
software bugs though they have ran well, until now that is.

Problems like this make you realize how quickly and unexpectedly things can
take a crap on you with little or no changes to your network.

Thanks again for the help.
Chadd

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:43 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Chadd,
> 
>   That is a Trango command and it does turn arp off. I have both worlds
> here
> - - bridged and routed and I have never had any of my TLink 10's to do
> that
> to me. I am not saying that's not your problem - I am just saying I have
> never had that issue. We have many more than 300 traversing Tlink10
> backhauls today - - -
> 
> What firmware are you running? Is there a certain time of the day things
> go
> awry? A certain temp? Is there a pps correlation? What is each Tlink
> plugged
> in to?
> 
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> -Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:56 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Mac,
> 
> We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue.  Chadd, I would
> guess
> it was around 100.
> 
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> telnet:
> 
> arp -bcast off
> 
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Chadd,
> 
> We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
> root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
> using as are primary BHs.
> 
> Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
> ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.
> 
> As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
> Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units
> is
> "maclist reset".
> 
> We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
> number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.
> 
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
> sure if everyone is on both lists.
> 
> 
> I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
> AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands,
> Trango,
> MT, Bril

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-20 Thread Chadd Thompson
Well I did a bit of searching on the trango support forums and found a
thread of someone with a similar problem. Trango support made a
recommendation to turn off the maclist filter off on the RU. I went a head
and turned it off on the RU's, telnet in and issue "maclist filter off"
command. I did this last night sometime and have not had any issues as of
yet. Since last week sometime I was having to reboot the BH's twice a day or
more. I will see what happens with it and if this doesn't do it I will let
you guys know.

Funny thing about this is that about a week ago I was thinking to myself
"damn those link 10's have ran good the last few years". I was an early
adopter of the link 10 and had nothing but issues with them for the first 6
months or so after release, I felt like a beta tester. Once they fixed
software bugs though they have ran well, until now that is.

Problems like this make you realize how quickly and unexpectedly things can
take a crap on you with little or no changes to your network.

Thanks again for the help.
Chadd

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 7:43 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Chadd,
> 
>   That is a Trango command and it does turn arp off. I have both worlds
> here
> - - bridged and routed and I have never had any of my TLink 10's to do
> that
> to me. I am not saying that's not your problem - I am just saying I have
> never had that issue. We have many more than 300 traversing Tlink10
> backhauls today - - -
> 
> What firmware are you running? Is there a certain time of the day things
> go
> awry? A certain temp? Is there a pps correlation? What is each Tlink
> plugged
> in to?
> 
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:56 AM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Mac,
> 
> We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue.  Chadd, I would
> guess
> it was around 100.
> 
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> telnet:
> 
> arp -bcast off
> 
> 
> 
> Mac
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Chadd,
> 
> We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
> root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
> using as are primary BHs.
> 
> Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
> ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.
> 
> As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
> Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units
> is
> "maclist reset".
> 
> We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
> number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.
> 
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
> 
> Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
> sure if everyone is on both lists.
> 
> 
> I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
> AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands,
> Trango,
> MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different frequencies.
> 
> The strange thing that not all the radios on the segment will have
> problems
> only some, and even more odd is that an AP can stop responding but you can
> still access some of the CPE's associated with it and they will pass
> traffic
> fine. In any case a reboot of the backhaul that feeds each individual
> segmen

RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-20 Thread Mac Dearman
Chadd,

  That is a Trango command and it does turn arp off. I have both worlds here
- - bridged and routed and I have never had any of my TLink 10's to do that
to me. I am not saying that's not your problem - I am just saying I have
never had that issue. We have many more than 300 traversing Tlink10
backhauls today - - - 

What firmware are you running? Is there a certain time of the day things go
awry? A certain temp? Is there a pps correlation? What is each Tlink plugged
in to?



Mac 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Todd Barber
Sent: Wednesday, December 20, 2006 12:56 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Mac,

We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue.  Chadd, I would guess
it was around 100.

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

telnet: 

arp -bcast off



Mac 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Todd Barber
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Chadd,

We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
using as are primary BHs.

Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.

As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units is
"maclist reset".

We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.   

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
sure if everyone is on both lists.


I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands, Trango,
MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different frequencies. 

The strange thing that not all the radios on the segment will have problems
only some, and even more odd is that an AP can stop responding but you can
still access some of the CPE's associated with it and they will pass traffic
fine. In any case a reboot of the backhaul that feeds each individual
segment will bring them all back up again for a random amount of time. I
have checked the BH links when things start going haywire and can't seem to
find any issues, no oddball traffic, packets per second seem fine. Also my
ARP tables seem to be fine when this happens, but I haven't tried to flush
my ARP when I have the issue.

Everything is currently "and has been for 4 yrs" bridged and it is getting
to the point where I need to break down and start setting up routing at each
of my POPs. I had thought it may be a bridge loop, but if that was the case
I wouldn't think the segment would operate fine for a while after a Backhaul
reboot.

I am looking for suggestions of other things I may/should be checking and or
looking at.

Thanks,
Chadd


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RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-19 Thread Todd Barber
Mac,

We tried that but it didn't totally resolve the issue.  Chadd, I would guess
it was around 100.

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:09 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

telnet: 

arp -bcast off



Mac 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Todd Barber
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Chadd,

We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
using as are primary BHs.

Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.

As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units is
"maclist reset".

We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.   

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
sure if everyone is on both lists.


I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands, Trango,
MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different frequencies. 

The strange thing that not all the radios on the segment will have problems
only some, and even more odd is that an AP can stop responding but you can
still access some of the CPE's associated with it and they will pass traffic
fine. In any case a reboot of the backhaul that feeds each individual
segment will bring them all back up again for a random amount of time. I
have checked the BH links when things start going haywire and can't seem to
find any issues, no oddball traffic, packets per second seem fine. Also my
ARP tables seem to be fine when this happens, but I haven't tried to flush
my ARP when I have the issue.

Everything is currently "and has been for 4 yrs" bridged and it is getting
to the point where I need to break down and start setting up routing at each
of my POPs. I had thought it may be a bridge loop, but if that was the case
I wouldn't think the segment would operate fine for a while after a Backhaul
reboot.

I am looking for suggestions of other things I may/should be checking and or
looking at.

Thanks,
Chadd


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RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-19 Thread Chadd Thompson
Mac,

Is this a trango command? I don't remember there being an arp command in
the link10's

Thanks,
Chadd

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Mac Dearman
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 9:09 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
>
>
> telnet:
>
> arp -bcast off
>
>
>
> Mac
>
>
>
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> Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
>
> Chadd,
>
> We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
> root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
> using as are primary BHs.
>
> Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
> ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.
>
> As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
> Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and
> 5830 units is
> "maclist reset".
>
> We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
> number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.
>
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
>
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RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-19 Thread Mac Dearman
telnet: 

arp -bcast off



Mac 



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Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
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Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Chadd,

We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
using as are primary BHs.

Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.

As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units is
"maclist reset".

We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.   

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499

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Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
sure if everyone is on both lists.


I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands, Trango,
MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different frequencies. 

The strange thing that not all the radios on the segment will have problems
only some, and even more odd is that an AP can stop responding but you can
still access some of the CPE's associated with it and they will pass traffic
fine. In any case a reboot of the backhaul that feeds each individual
segment will bring them all back up again for a random amount of time. I
have checked the BH links when things start going haywire and can't seem to
find any issues, no oddball traffic, packets per second seem fine. Also my
ARP tables seem to be fine when this happens, but I haven't tried to flush
my ARP when I have the issue.

Everything is currently "and has been for 4 yrs" bridged and it is getting
to the point where I need to break down and start setting up routing at each
of my POPs. I had thought it may be a bridge loop, but if that was the case
I wouldn't think the segment would operate fine for a while after a Backhaul
reboot.

I am looking for suggestions of other things I may/should be checking and or
looking at.

Thanks,
Chadd


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RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-19 Thread Chadd Thompson
Sounds like this could be it.

The backhauls are Trango link 10's do you happen to remember what the ARP
limit was that you were having problems with?

Thanks,
Chadd

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Todd Barber
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 8:01 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
>
>
> Chadd,
>
> We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
> root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
> using as are primary BHs.
>
> Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
> ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.
>
> As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
> Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and
> 5830 units is
> "maclist reset".
>
> We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
> number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.
>
> Todd Barber
> Skylink Broadband Internet
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 970-454-9499
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
> Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
> To: 'WISPA General List'
> Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"
>
> Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
> sure if everyone is on both lists.
>
>
> I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
> AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of
> brands, Trango,
> MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different
> frequencies.
>
> The strange thing that not all the radios on the segment will
> have problems
> only some, and even more odd is that an AP can stop responding but you can
> still access some of the CPE's associated with it and they will
> pass traffic
> fine. In any case a reboot of the backhaul that feeds each individual
> segment will bring them all back up again for a random amount of time. I
> have checked the BH links when things start going haywire and
> can't seem to
> find any issues, no oddball traffic, packets per second seem fine. Also my
> ARP tables seem to be fine when this happens, but I haven't tried to flush
> my ARP when I have the issue.
>
> Everything is currently "and has been for 4 yrs" bridged and it is getting
> to the point where I need to break down and start setting up
> routing at each
> of my POPs. I had thought it may be a bridge loop, but if that
> was the case
> I wouldn't think the segment would operate fine for a while after
> a Backhaul
> reboot.
>
> I am looking for suggestions of other things I may/should be
> checking and or
> looking at.
>
> Thanks,
> Chadd
>
>
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RE: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

2006-12-19 Thread Todd Barber
Chadd,

We experienced similar issues when our network was entirely bridged.  The
root of the problem turned out to be the ARP table in the Trangos we were
using as are primary BHs.

Once the number of clients behind the Trangos exceeded a certain limit the
ARP table gets corrupted.  Trango does not have a fix for this issue.

As a temporary fix you can set up a script to reset the ARP table in the
Trangos on a regular basis.  The command line for the 5800 and 5830 units is
"maclist reset".

We have moved to a mostly routed network which has greatly reduced the
number of MAC addresses seen by the Trangos.  This fixed the problem.   

Todd Barber
Skylink Broadband Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
970-454-9499

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Chadd Thompson
Sent: Tuesday, December 19, 2006 4:00 PM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: [WISPA] Strange network issues "crosspost"

Sorry to cross post this guys but I am looking for suggestions and wasn't
sure if everyone is on both lists.


I have been having an intermittent problem the last few days. A few of my
AP's and CPE's will stop responding. These are a mixture of brands, Trango,
MT, Brilan, they are on different network segments, different frequencies. 

The strange thing that not all the radios on the segment will have problems
only some, and even more odd is that an AP can stop responding but you can
still access some of the CPE's associated with it and they will pass traffic
fine. In any case a reboot of the backhaul that feeds each individual
segment will bring them all back up again for a random amount of time. I
have checked the BH links when things start going haywire and can't seem to
find any issues, no oddball traffic, packets per second seem fine. Also my
ARP tables seem to be fine when this happens, but I haven't tried to flush
my ARP when I have the issue.

Everything is currently "and has been for 4 yrs" bridged and it is getting
to the point where I need to break down and start setting up routing at each
of my POPs. I had thought it may be a bridge loop, but if that was the case
I wouldn't think the segment would operate fine for a while after a Backhaul
reboot.

I am looking for suggestions of other things I may/should be checking and or
looking at.

Thanks,
Chadd


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