[WISPA] Two front-runners are competing to build city's wireless Internet network

2006-11-29 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Nov. 29, 2006, 12:33AM
MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR PROJECT
Two front-runners are competing to build city's wireless Internet network
One affiliated with EarthLink; the other is a new local consortium

By ALEXIS GRANT
Copyright 2006 Houston Chronicle


THE COMPETITORS

City officials are considering these two companies to build a citywide 
wireless Internet network. They could choose one by month's end.


• EarthLink Municipal Networks: Formed four years ago by Internet 
service provider EarthLink, the company has projects in several cities, 
including Philadelphia.


• Convergent Broadband: The local group, headed by former Reliant Energy 
CEO Don Jordan, was founded last year to bid on the Houston contract.


A national company with an impressive résumé and a newly created 
consortium with a local punch are the frontrunners for a 
multi-million-dollar project to build and maintain Houston's wireless 
Internet network.


San Francisco-based EarthLink Municipal Networks, run by one of the 
nation's largest high-speed Internet service providers, is already 
building in several cities. It's going head-to-head with Convergent 
Broadband, a local group headed by former Reliant Energy CEO Don Jordan 
that has ties to business leaders in Houston.


If everything is equal, there's a preference for dealing with a vendor 
that has a strong local employment base and a commitment to the 
community, said Mayor Bill White. At the same time, when dealing with 
national firms, you're able to evaluate their performance in other markets.


White was speaking generally since he has not announced the two finalists.

He and other city officials have been mum about the vendor-selection 
process, which began with five bidders, but he said the announcement of 
a vendor could come as early as the end of this week.


Several sources involved in the process, who asked not to be identified 
for fear of damaging their relationship with the city, confirmed the two 
finalists are EarthLink and Convergent.


City officials say the network, which is expected to cost more than $40 
million, will make Internet access cheaper for residents and businesses 
and include an outreach program that offers low-income residents a 
discounted rate.


Taxpayers won't have to pick up the tab; the project will be funded by 
the company that creates the network and users who access it.


The chosen vendor will have the option of leasing the downtown Wi-Fi 
network built to serve the city's new wireless parking meters.


With cities around the country building or planning to build municipal 
networks, it's not uncommon for newly created local groups to bid.


But so far, cities embarking on the biggest projects, Philadelphia for 
example, have awarded contracts to more established companies.


2008 completion date

At 600 square miles, Houston's project is expected to be the biggest in 
the country once it's completed in 2008.


That's a lot to chew off your first time at bat, said Michael 
Garfield, a talk-show host who calls himself the High-Tech Texan. They 
(Convergent) may be able to pull it off, but that's very aggressive for 
a start-up company.


Formed in early 2005, Convergent Broadband lacks a Web site (though 
several other companies with the same name have Internet sites) and is 
unknown to local technology experts.


While the company's name may be unfamiliar to Houstonians, one of its 
founders, Jordan, is a politically connected local power broker and 
well-known among business leaders.


With his leadership, Convergent has developed a Wi-Fi plan that includes 
partnering not only with hardware suppliers IBM and Tropos Networks, but 
also with a handful of Houston companies.


Jordan and other company leaders declined to comment, citing pending 
negotiations with the city.


Four years' experience
Their rival, EarthLink Municipal Networks, was created by its parent ISP 
four years ago to capitalize on the rush for citywide Wi-Fi.


It is building networks in several cities, including Philadelphia, which 
at 135 square miles will be the nation's largest network — that is, 
until Houston's wireless project gets under way.


EarthLink's Houston plan calls for working with Motorola and Tropos 
Networks for hardware and other equipment, and hiring local contractors 
to install transmitter nodes around the city.


There's a lot less risk with a company like EarthLink doing it than a 
local company, said Don Berryman, president of EarthLink Municipal 
Networks, who would not speak specifically about the Houston bid.


Some experts say even a local company with no experience has advantages 
over a national competitor, simply because local leaders know how to 
best navigate the community.


I'm personally very surprised that more local utility energy companies 
have not gone into this market, said Esme Vos, editor of 
MuniWireless.com, which tracks Wi-Fi projects around the world.


Boost from Philadelphia

Others side with the more seasoned vendor, 

[WISPA] Can WiMAX Challenge 3G?

2006-11-29 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Can WiMAX Challenge 3G?
29th November , 2006

US : WiMAX has gained significant momentum over the last year. Its 
standardization is complete, vendor and operator ecosystems are 
expanding, and the hype is getting louder, often justifiably so.


Inset shows the result of asking the participants  Has your business 
considered investing in WiMax.  

In this report, we move beyond the hype and theoretical discussion; we 
look at real-world examples of pre-WiMAX deployments and review 
practical issues such as time-to-market, business models and pricing, 
device availability, economics of scale and spectrum availability, with 
an emphasis on a number of key questions, most notably, can WiMAX 
challenge 3G?


The answer will eventually be determined by the operator community, so 
we surveyed about 100 operators to tune into their views, investments 
plans, expectations and concerns in respect to WiMAX. With 78 percent of 
the surveyed operators considering an investment in WiMAX, we believe 
the promise of WiMAX is compelling and the technology warrants further 
examination.


The result is an in-depth, case-study based analysis about the viability 
of WiMAX, and the potential threat it poses to 3G. We include over 20 
pages of specific market forecasts, case studies, analyses of 
competitive landscapes by region, and overview of current deployments. 
Finally, we include a regionalized breakdown of operators' responses to 
23 questions about their plans for WiMAX.


Key Questions Answered
Does mobile WiMAX perform better than 3G?
Will mobile WiMAX be cheaper than 3G?
How will mobile WiMAX IPR affect the 3G value proposition?
Which players have the best case for deploying mobile WiMAX?
What is the current operator perception of mobile WiMAX? What do 
operators believe is the primary driver for its success? The largest 
obstacle?
Where are the most attractive opportunities for mobile WiMAX? How will 
spectrum availability, licensing procedures, market competition, and 
technology time-to-market impact certain markets?
What is the size of the WiMAX opportunity in key sample markets (France, 
India, Mexico and the US)?


More details here http://www.pyramidresearch.com/

Link to see inset graphic.
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Nov2006/3984.htm
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[WISPA] ethernet

2006-11-29 Thread Chris Cooper


Im looking for a source of high quality exterior cat5 for tower
installations.  has to be uv rated, sheilded w/ ground. Any pointers are
appreciated.

thanks
Chris

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[WISPA] Alvarion ditches cellular business unit, sharpens focus on WiMAX

2006-11-29 Thread Dawn DiPietro

Alvarion ditches cellular business unit, sharpens focus on WiMAX
By Joni Morse
Nov 28, 2006
SAN JOSE, Calif.—The future is all about WiMAX for Alvarion Ltd. now 
that the wireless broadband solutions developer cut its Cellular Mobile 
business unit loose for $15 million.


The company sold its CMU business to privately held LGC Wireless Inc., a 
wireless networking technology firm based in California.


“The transaction will enable us to focus all of our resources and 
attention on WiMAX,” stated Tzvika Friedman, president and chief 
executive of Alvarion, which is based in Tel Aviv, Israel.


Alvarion’s CMU business brought in $21 million in revenues during the 
first three quarters of this year. In comparison, Alvarion’s Broadband 
Wireless Access business unit—the company’s only remaining business—is 
expected to deliver revenues of between $47 million and $51 million for 
the fourth quarter.


Alvarion’s CMU portfolio includes base stations and core wireless 
network equipment used primarily by wireless operators, system 
integrators and government organizations. LGC Wireless’ president and 
CEO, Ian Sugarbroad, said the acquisition will help LGC Wireless supply 
carriers and other organizations with reliable cellular coverage with IP 
and traditional circuit backhaul connectivity.


“This acquisition allows us to serve that market with a highly advanced 
solution that includes pico base stations and soft switching as well as 
distributed antenna systems, delivering turnkey, high-performance 
networks that are right-sized for any venue,” added Sugarbroad.


LGC Wireless said the deal was solidified Nov. 21 and includes the 
transfer of Alvarion’s CMU technology, patents, manufacturing rights, 
inventory and equipment. The company named former Kineto Wireless CEO 
John O’Connell the executive vice president and general manager of its 
new division and confirmed that LGC Wireless will maintain Alvarion’s 
office facilities in Mountain View, Calif. and Shenzhen, China. LGC 
Wireless also said it has already offered jobs to most of the unit’s 
employees.


O’Connell said LGC is aiming to serve the demand for in-building 
coverage among carriers by “improving the economics and integration of 
in-building 3GSM, CDMA, Wi-Fi and future technologies.”


LGC Wireless and Alvarion have worked together in the past, as 
Alvarion’s CMU was the base station supplier for the fleet-wide 
shipboard cellular system deployments at Carnival Cruise Lines, which 
also featured LGC’s distributed antenna systems.


http://rcrnews.com/news.cms?newsId=27837
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Re: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

2006-11-29 Thread Tom DeReggi

You can however post a link to a photo.

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: CHUCK PROFITO [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:17 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board



Yes, same thing happened to my Happy Thanksgiving  post w/ joke.
Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 8:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board


I confirmed that I sent that this morning at 10:59 with the picture
attached. We must not be able to attach a .jpg to list mail :)

Mac 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

Mac Dearman wrote:

I thought I would share this photo of the WISPA Board. It was taken at 
ISPCON earlier this month. If I am not mistaken this is the most board 
members ever assembled in person at any one place.



Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Rayville, La.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief)
www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales)
318.728.8600
318.728.9600
318.303.4182

 


what photo???

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Re: [WISPA] Can WiMAX Challenge 3G?

2006-11-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
The fear that I have about WiMax is that as it is deployed for mobile, it 
will start to cause a negative impact on branding that previously helped the 
industry.


Publization of the word WiMax, helped WISPs gain validity and visibility 
for offering next generation RELIABLE SCALABLE fixed broadband services.
I could say Security/ Reliability concerns you have? We don't deploy Wifi, 
we use carrier grade equipment, sorta like WiMax, you know that 
technology/hype  that you've probably read about in the newspaper 
recently..


Now with WiMAXe (Mobility), carriers will start to brand it as a mobile 
solution, and use it for best effort service offerings to every laptop, 
which surely will degrade wide scale reliabilty potential of the solution 
(Bypassing engineering process of Fixed Installations by professionals).


It almost necessary to promote a NEW word to define our industry, before 
WiMax reputation/branding gets destroyed or distorted in publ;ic 
perception. Actually customer perception will not be distorted because most 
WiMax equipment will be mobile, it just means the word will end up not 
meaning what we do as Fixed carriers.  WiMax will mean what ever the 
dominent use for the technology is.  I wish they would have branded it 
WiMax Mobile.  Now maybe we need to brand it Fixed WiMax.  Using the 
double connotation, that not only is it stationary, but we make it work 
(fixed it).


How does this apply to this thread... Everytime WiMax gets written about 
cvomparing it to Cellular mobile solutions, it strengthens perception that 
WiMax is mobile.


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


- Original Message - 
From: Dawn DiPietro [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:55 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Can WiMAX Challenge 3G?



Can WiMAX Challenge 3G?
29th November , 2006

US : WiMAX has gained significant momentum over the last year. Its 
standardization is complete, vendor and operator ecosystems are expanding, 
and the hype is getting louder, often justifiably so.


Inset shows the result of asking the participants  Has your business 
considered investing in WiMax.
In this report, we move beyond the hype and theoretical discussion; we 
look at real-world examples of pre-WiMAX deployments and review practical 
issues such as time-to-market, business models and pricing, device 
availability, economics of scale and spectrum availability, with an 
emphasis on a number of key questions, most notably, can WiMAX challenge 
3G?


The answer will eventually be determined by the operator community, so we 
surveyed about 100 operators to tune into their views, investments plans, 
expectations and concerns in respect to WiMAX. With 78 percent of the 
surveyed operators considering an investment in WiMAX, we believe the 
promise of WiMAX is compelling and the technology warrants further 
examination.


The result is an in-depth, case-study based analysis about the viability 
of WiMAX, and the potential threat it poses to 3G. We include over 20 
pages of specific market forecasts, case studies, analyses of competitive 
landscapes by region, and overview of current deployments. Finally, we 
include a regionalized breakdown of operators' responses to 23 questions 
about their plans for WiMAX.


Key Questions Answered
Does mobile WiMAX perform better than 3G?
Will mobile WiMAX be cheaper than 3G?
How will mobile WiMAX IPR affect the 3G value proposition?
Which players have the best case for deploying mobile WiMAX?
What is the current operator perception of mobile WiMAX? What do operators 
believe is the primary driver for its success? The largest obstacle?
Where are the most attractive opportunities for mobile WiMAX? How will 
spectrum availability, licensing procedures, market competition, and 
technology time-to-market impact certain markets?
What is the size of the WiMAX opportunity in key sample markets (France, 
India, Mexico and the US)?


More details here http://www.pyramidresearch.com/

Link to see inset graphic.
http://www.3g.co.uk/PR/Nov2006/3984.htm
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RE: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

2006-11-29 Thread Rick Harnish
Try sending it again Mac

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

I confirmed that I sent that this morning at 10:59 with the picture
attached. We must not be able to attach a .jpg to list mail :)

Mac 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

Mac Dearman wrote:

I thought I would share this photo of the WISPA Board. It was taken at
ISPCON earlier this month. If I am not mistaken this is the most board
members ever assembled in person at any one place. 


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Rayville, La.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief)
www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales)
318.728.8600
318.728.9600
318.303.4182 

  

what photo???

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Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
813.963.5884 
http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com


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Re: [WISPA] HIPAA

2006-11-29 Thread Peter R.
A HIPAA consultant was at my luncheon yesterday. He pulled all this info 
for you:


pulled a couple things below as background as well as the actual 
regulation. The one that pertains to this discussion is the last 
paragraph below. There is no strict rule as to how to secure and in 
actual fact, switched or dial-up networks are deemed more secure due to 
the random nature of the connection.


http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2003_registerdocid=fr20fe03-4.pdf

The HIPAA Security Rule establishes specific requirements for securing 
all electronic protected health information (EPHI) -- while at rest (in 
servers or storage) or in motion (in transmission, wireless or wired).


‘‘Transmission security (refers to)… electronic protected health 
information is transmitted from one point to another, it must be 
protected in a manner commensurate with the associated risk.”



§ 164.312 Technical safeguards.

A covered entity must, in accordance with § 164.306:

(a)(1) Standard: Access control. Implement technical policies and 
procedures for electronic information systems that maintain electronic 
protected health information to allow access only to those persons or 
software programs that have been granted access rights as specified in § 
164.308(a)(4).


(2) Implementation specifications: (i) Unique user identification 
(Required). Assign a unique name and/or number for identifying and 
tracking user identity. (ii) Emergency access procedure (Required). 
Establish (and implement as needed) procedures for obtaining necessary 
electronic protected health information during an emergency. (iii) 
Automatic logoff (Addressable). Implement electronic procedures that 
terminate an electronic session after a predetermined time of 
inactivity. (iv) Encryption and decryption (Addressable). Implement a 
mechanism to encrypt and decrypt electronic protected health information.



(b) Standard: Audit controls. Implement hardware, software, and/or 
procedural mechanisms that record and examine activity in information 
systems that contain or use electronic protected health information.


(c)(1) Standard: Integrity. Implement policies and procedures to protect 
electronic protected health information from improper alteration or 
destruction. (2) Implementation specification: Mechanism to authenticate 
electronic protected health information (Addressable). Implement 
electronic mechanisms to corroborate that electronic protected health 
information has not been altered or destroyed in an unauthorized manner.


(d) Standard: Person or entity authentication. Implement procedures to 
verify that a person or entity seeking access to electronic protected 
health information is the one claimed.


(e)(1) Standard: Transmission security. Implement technical security 
measures to guard against unauthorized access to electronic protected 
health information that is being transmitted over an electronic 
communications network. (2) Implementation specifications: (i) Integrity 
controls (Addressable). Implement security measures to ensure that 
electronically transmitted electronic protected health information is 
not improperly modified without detection until disposed of. (ii) 
Encryption (Addressable). Implement a mechanism to encrypt electronic 
protected health information whenever deemed appropriate.



Daniel L. Ruggles
CISSP, CISM, CMC, IAM, PMP

Principal
Liaison Technologies, LLC


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[WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Tom DeReggi
For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, from 
each of our Master Cell Sites


1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP 
connection).


The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet loss 
or rssi,


1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof 
of our cell site.
 (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing gear 
that interfers without getting pre-approved)


2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the 
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down 
(offline).


By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm 
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the 
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to 
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting point 
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would REALLY 
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at 
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some camera 
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some 
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached. 
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself. 
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong enough 
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought is 
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections, 
If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.


Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most 
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to 
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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[WISPA] CALEA

2006-11-29 Thread Patrick Leary
I've noted a lot of chatter on the lists lately about CALEA and WISP
obligations. Robert Primosch from Wilkinson, Barker, Knauer, LLP -- a
top DC law firm dealing with spectrum and regulatory issues -- has
written a 1,000 word article specifically for WISPs on the topic. The
article is currently posted within the Featured Content section on the
AlvarionCOMNET Web site which will reside at comnet.alvarion.com) once I
have final corporate signoff to go live with already completed site).
That section is intended to deliver information to member WISPs that
will better equip them business managers

Meanwhile, here are a few excerpts of Robert's article:

WISPs MUST COMPLY WITH FCC CALEA RULES
By Robert Primosch, Wilkinson, Barker, Knauer, LLP

The FCC now requires wireless providers of broadband service (including
interconnected VoIP service) to comply with the Communications
Assistance for Law Enforcement Act (CALEA).  This means that WISPs
must equip their facilities to permit law enforcement agencies to
monitor and intercept subscriber communications, assuming they have
obtained a court order to do so.  WISPs must be CALEA-compliant by May
14, 2007...
 
... As of May 14, 2007, however, a wireless broadband operator's network
must be capable of separating that subscriber information which law
enforcement is entitled to from the subscriber...

... Wireless broadband networks also must have intercept access points
or IAPs which are those points at which a law enforcement agency can
access the service provider's...

... A wireless broadband operator is entitled to be compensated for
reasonable expenses incurred when providing facilities or assistance
for a law enforcement intercept...

... a wireless broadband operator is responsible for paying its own
CALEA compliance costs...


Regards,

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
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c: 760.580.0080
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RE: [WISPA] REALLY - photo of WISPA Board

2006-11-29 Thread Mac Dearman


Mac Dearman

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:47 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

Try sending it again Mac

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mac Dearman
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 11:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

I confirmed that I sent that this morning at 10:59 with the picture
attached. We must not be able to attach a .jpg to list mail :)

Mac 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Peter R.
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:59 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] ISPCON photo of WISPA Board

Mac Dearman wrote:

I thought I would share this photo of the WISPA Board. It was taken at
ISPCON earlier this month. If I am not mistaken this is the most board
members ever assembled in person at any one place. 


Mac Dearman
Maximum Access, LLC.
Rayville, La.
www.inetsouth.com
www.radioresponse.org (Katrina relief)
www.mac-tel.us (VoIP sales)
318.728.8600
318.728.9600
318.303.4182 

  

what photo???

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Peter Radizeski
RAD-INFO, Inc. - NSP Strategist
We Help ISPs Connect  Communicate
813.963.5884 
http://www.marketingIDEAguy.com


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Re: [WISPA] HIPAA

2006-11-29 Thread Mark Nash - Lists
If I'm reading this information correctly, it states that the care providers
are responsible for encrypting and decrypting electronically transmitted
information.

Mark Nash
Network Engineer
UnwiredOnline.Net
350 Holly Street
Junction City, OR 97448
http://www.uwol.net
541-998-
541-998-5599 fax

- Original Message - 
From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] HIPAA


 A HIPAA consultant was at my luncheon yesterday. He pulled all this info
 for you:

 pulled a couple things below as background as well as the actual
 regulation. The one that pertains to this discussion is the last
 paragraph below. There is no strict rule as to how to secure and in
 actual fact, switched or dial-up networks are deemed more secure due to
 the random nature of the connection.


http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2003_registerdocid=fr20fe03-4.pdf

 The HIPAA Security Rule establishes specific requirements for securing
 all electronic protected health information (EPHI) -- while at rest (in
 servers or storage) or in motion (in transmission, wireless or wired).

 ‘‘Transmission security (refers to)… electronic protected health
 information is transmitted from one point to another, it must be
 protected in a manner commensurate with the associated risk.”


 § 164.312 Technical safeguards.

 A covered entity must, in accordance with § 164.306:

 (a)(1) Standard: Access control. Implement technical policies and
 procedures for electronic information systems that maintain electronic
 protected health information to allow access only to those persons or
 software programs that have been granted access rights as specified in §
 164.308(a)(4).

 (2) Implementation specifications: (i) Unique user identification
 (Required). Assign a unique name and/or number for identifying and
 tracking user identity. (ii) Emergency access procedure (Required).
 Establish (and implement as needed) procedures for obtaining necessary
 electronic protected health information during an emergency. (iii)
 Automatic logoff (Addressable). Implement electronic procedures that
 terminate an electronic session after a predetermined time of
 inactivity. (iv) Encryption and decryption (Addressable). Implement a
 mechanism to encrypt and decrypt electronic protected health information.


 (b) Standard: Audit controls. Implement hardware, software, and/or
 procedural mechanisms that record and examine activity in information
 systems that contain or use electronic protected health information.

 (c)(1) Standard: Integrity. Implement policies and procedures to protect
 electronic protected health information from improper alteration or
 destruction. (2) Implementation specification: Mechanism to authenticate
 electronic protected health information (Addressable). Implement
 electronic mechanisms to corroborate that electronic protected health
 information has not been altered or destroyed in an unauthorized manner.

 (d) Standard: Person or entity authentication. Implement procedures to
 verify that a person or entity seeking access to electronic protected
 health information is the one claimed.

 (e)(1) Standard: Transmission security. Implement technical security
 measures to guard against unauthorized access to electronic protected
 health information that is being transmitted over an electronic
 communications network. (2) Implementation specifications: (i) Integrity
 controls (Addressable). Implement security measures to ensure that
 electronically transmitted electronic protected health information is
 not improperly modified without detection until disposed of. (ii)
 Encryption (Addressable). Implement a mechanism to encrypt electronic
 protected health information whenever deemed appropriate.


 Daniel L. Ruggles
 CISSP, CISM, CMC, IAM, PMP

 Principal
 Liaison Technologies, LLC


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RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

2006-11-29 Thread Forbes Mercy
Marlon,
 
HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel we are 
about to throw down some rap song, WORD!
 
Forbes

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer 
Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet



509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.

Thanks much!
marlon

- Original Message -
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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet


 team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he wants
 to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the locality.

 contact
 shane c
 509 364 3438 x203

 zip 98619

 bob kim
 http://evdo-coverage.com
 http://iptv-coverage.com
 http://wimax-coverage.com
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RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Brian Webster
Tom,
I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short section
of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna rotor.
Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this but
that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, from
each of our Master Cell Sites

1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
connection).

The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet loss
or rssi,

1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof
of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing gear
that interfers without getting pre-approved)

2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
(offline).

By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting point
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would REALLY
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some camera
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong enough
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought is
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections,
If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread pswired
I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got an IP
camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you could
wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
rotates, of course.

Patrick

 Tom,
   I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
 remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
 can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
 rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
 section
 of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
 rotor.
 Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this but
 that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster
 www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
 from
 each of our Master Cell Sites

 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
 connection).

 The purpose is two fold

 When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
 loss
 or rssi,

 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof
 of our cell site.
   (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
 gear
 that interfers without getting pre-approved)

 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
 least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
 (offline).

 By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm
 which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the
 other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to
 prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
 point
 in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
 REALLY
 be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
 the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
 camera
 may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
 solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
 Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
 Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
 enough
 that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought
 is
 that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera connections,
 If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

 Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
 cost effective way to accomplish this?
 (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
 replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

2006-11-29 Thread Rick Harnish
Looks like a WISP War building in the deserts of Washington State ;)

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

Marlon,
 
HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel we
are about to throw down some rap song, WORD!
 
Forbes

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer 
Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet



509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.

Thanks much!
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet


 team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he
wants
 to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the locality.

 contact
 shane c
 509 364 3438 x203

 zip 98619

 bob kim
 http://evdo-coverage.com
 http://iptv-coverage.com
 http://wimax-coverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Brett Hays

Wow, an ethernet slip ring...bet that could cause all sorts of problems.

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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:54 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles



I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got an IP
camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you could
wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
rotates, of course.

Patrick


Tom,
I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be is you
can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
section
of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
rotor.
Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does this 
but

that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



Thank You,
Brian Webster
www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


-Original Message-
From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
from
each of our Master Cell Sites

1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP
connection).

The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
loss
or rssi,

1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the 
roof

of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
gear
that interfers without getting pre-approved)

2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
(offline).

By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help 
confirm
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of 
the
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction 
to

prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
point
in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
REALLY
be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could yell at
the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
camera
may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
enough
that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My thought
is
that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera 
connections,

If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

2006-11-29 Thread Cliff Leboeuf
Children...
Children...

:)


On 11/29/06 12:48 PM, Rick Harnish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Looks like a WISP War building in the deserts of Washington State ;)
 
 Rick Harnish
 President
 OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
 260-827-2482
 Founding Member of WISPA
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
 Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:00 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet
 
 Marlon,
  
 HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel we
 are about to throw down some rap song, WORD!
  
 Forbes
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer
 Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM
 To: WISPA General List
 Cc: 
 Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet
 
 
 
 509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.
 
 Thanks much!
 marlon
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
 Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet
 
 
 team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he
 wants
 to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the locality.
 
 contact
 shane c
 509 364 3438 x203
 
 zip 98619
 
 bob kim
 http://evdo-coverage.com
 http://iptv-coverage.com
 http://wimax-coverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread J. Vogel
It looks to me like all that is needed is a slip ring for power. Surely
a WISP will
be able to figure out how to get data to/from the rotating units without
using wires.
:)

John


Brett Hays wrote:

 Wow, an ethernet slip ring...bet that could cause all sorts of problems.

 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; WISPA General List
 wireless@wispa.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:54 PM
 Subject: RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 I think a simple TV antenna rotator would do the trick.  If you got
 an IP
 camera with dry contact outputs, like the Axis network cameras, you
 could
 wire up some relays connected to the outputs of the camera that would
 rotate the pole in either direction.  The contact outputs on the axis
 cameras can be controlled through the web interface.  You'd need a slip
 ring arrangement of some sort or limit switches on the rotator so that
 your ethernet and control cables don't get all wrapped up when the pole
 rotates, of course.

 Patrick

 Tom,
 I would try and look up something from the ham radio realm. They have
 remote control systems for remote mounted radios. My idea would be
 is you
 can find something with a software package that can remotely control a
 rotor. This rotor would have your AP and camera mounted to the short
 section
 of mast on top of the rotor. This could be an inexpensive TV antenna
 rotor.
 Off the top of my head I can't think of anything that I know does
 this but
 that's because I don't play with remote controlled radios much.



 Thank You,
 Brian Webster
 www.wirelessmapping.com http://www.wirelessmapping.com


 -Original Message-
 From: Tom DeReggi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:21 AM
 To: WISPA General List
 Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following,
 from
 each of our Master Cell Sites

 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely
 over IP
 connection).

 The purpose is two fold

 When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet
 loss
 or rssi,

 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on
 the roof
 of our cell site.
   (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing
 gear
 that interfers without getting pre-approved)

 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to
 find the
 least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down
 (offline).

 By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help
 confirm
 which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One
 of the
 other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one
 direction to
 prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting
 point
 in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would
 REALLY
 be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could
 yell at
 the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that some
 camera
 may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as some
 solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera attached.
 Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole itself.
 Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and strong
 enough
 that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.  My
 thought
 is
 that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP Camera
 connections,
 If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

 Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the
 most
 cost effective way to accomplish this?
 (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to
 replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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Re: [WISPA] HIPAA

2006-11-29 Thread Tom DeReggi

I'd like to bring attention to this specific part of the text

(ii) Emergency access procedure (Required).
Establish (and implement as needed) procedures for obtaining necessary
electronic protected health information during an emergency. 

Could this be amunition to argue that a Hospitol almost REQUIRES or HIGHLY 
BENEFITS from using your wireless service, as it BEST accommodates the need 
to enable/guarantee Emergency access, as an alternative true diverse route 
to access and transmit data.


Tom DeReggi
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IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband


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From: Peter R. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] HIPAA


A HIPAA consultant was at my luncheon yesterday. He pulled all this info 
for you:


pulled a couple things below as background as well as the actual 
regulation. The one that pertains to this discussion is the last paragraph 
below. There is no strict rule as to how to secure and in actual fact, 
switched or dial-up networks are deemed more secure due to the random 
nature of the connection.


http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=2003_registerdocid=fr20fe03-4.pdf

The HIPAA Security Rule establishes specific requirements for securing all 
electronic protected health information (EPHI) -- while at rest (in 
servers or storage) or in motion (in transmission, wireless or wired).


‘‘Transmission security (refers to)… electronic protected health 
information is transmitted from one point to another, it must be protected 
in a manner commensurate with the associated risk.”



§ 164.312 Technical safeguards.

A covered entity must, in accordance with § 164.306:

(a)(1) Standard: Access control. Implement technical policies and 
procedures for electronic information systems that maintain electronic 
protected health information to allow access only to those persons or 
software programs that have been granted access rights as specified in § 
164.308(a)(4).


(2) Implementation specifications: (i) Unique user identification 
(Required). Assign a unique name and/or number for identifying and 
tracking user identity. (ii) Emergency access procedure (Required). 
Establish (and implement as needed) procedures for obtaining necessary 
electronic protected health information during an emergency. (iii) 
Automatic logoff (Addressable). Implement electronic procedures that 
terminate an electronic session after a predetermined time of inactivity. 
(iv) Encryption and decryption (Addressable). Implement a mechanism to 
encrypt and decrypt electronic protected health information.



(b) Standard: Audit controls. Implement hardware, software, and/or 
procedural mechanisms that record and examine activity in information 
systems that contain or use electronic protected health information.


(c)(1) Standard: Integrity. Implement policies and procedures to protect 
electronic protected health information from improper alteration or 
destruction. (2) Implementation specification: Mechanism to authenticate 
electronic protected health information (Addressable). Implement 
electronic mechanisms to corroborate that electronic protected health 
information has not been altered or destroyed in an unauthorized manner.


(d) Standard: Person or entity authentication. Implement procedures to 
verify that a person or entity seeking access to electronic protected 
health information is the one claimed.


(e)(1) Standard: Transmission security. Implement technical security 
measures to guard against unauthorized access to electronic protected 
health information that is being transmitted over an electronic 
communications network. (2) Implementation specifications: (i) Integrity 
controls (Addressable). Implement security measures to ensure that 
electronically transmitted electronic protected health information is not 
improperly modified without detection until disposed of. (ii) Encryption 
(Addressable). Implement a mechanism to encrypt electronic protected 
health information whenever deemed appropriate.



Daniel L. Ruggles
CISSP, CISM, CMC, IAM, PMP

Principal
Liaison Technologies, LLC


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Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Tim Kerns

Tom,

You might consider using a TV antenna rotor, the degree of motion may not be 
as  fine as you desire, but I'm sure you could modify the controls to work 
off a relay. Also, dlink has a couple cameras that not only have audio in, 
but with an amp'd speaker can have audio out. They do have limited 
connections to control a relay, I think one or 2. Using a couple micro 
switches you could also control the rotation to prevent more than 360 
degrees, but I believe the TV rotor also prevents this.


Another thought is you may be able to use the pan and tilt circuitry to 
control a TV rotor? These can be controlled over Ethernet or through a 
wireless camera connection.


Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, 
from each of our Master Cell Sites


1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP 
connection).


The purpose is two fold

When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet 
loss or rssi,


1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof 
of our cell site.
 (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing 
gear that interfers without getting pre-approved)


2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the 
least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down 
(offline).


By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm 
which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the 
other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to 
prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting 
point in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would 
REALLY be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could 
yell at the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that 
some camera may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as 
some solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera 
attached. Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole 
itself. Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and 
strong enough that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up. 
My thought is that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP 
Camera connections, If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.


Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most 
cost effective way to accomplish this?
(My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to 
replicate the solution at about 20 locations)


Tom DeReggi
RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

2006-11-29 Thread Patrick Leary
I don't know, Marlon has a big ol' combine for a war chariot. Forbes,
you are going to have to get something bigger than rap bling.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:48 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

Looks like a WISP War building in the deserts of Washington State ;)

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

Marlon,
 
HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel
we
are about to throw down some rap song, WORD!
 
Forbes

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer 
Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM 
To: WISPA General List 
Cc: 
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs
Internet



509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.

Thanks much!
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet


 team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school.
he
wants
 to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the
locality.

 contact
 shane c
 509 364 3438 x203

 zip 98619

 bob kim
 http://evdo-coverage.com
 http://iptv-coverage.com
 http://wimax-coverage.com
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RE: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

2006-11-29 Thread Jonathan Schmidt
I've used a variety of D-Link cameras and find that they all have locked up
from time to time...requiring power cycling.  They haven't been adequate for
reliable operation.  Perhaps they've improved.

I have switched to a Panasonic BL-C30A Wi-Fi camera and been very, very
happy.  It has never failed to recover all by itself from any hiccup in the
wireless environment or power environment.  Plus, the images are clearer,
the dynamic range (illumination) is superior, the Wi-Fi range is better, and
the thing is able to be remotely controlled horizontally through nearly 180
degrees and vertically through nearly 90 degrees.  This doesn't have audio,
however.

Oh, on the D-Link cameras...at least the DSC types I used...the security is
easily circumvented.  I had a bunch up and my son called from the East Coast
and said that he wrote a script to capture the images every 10 minutes and
then realized he'd forgotten to put the password in.  It didn't matter.
Although the standard, direct HTTP access does have the login with password,
the script isn't challenged for one.

. . . j o n a t h a n



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tim Kerns
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 11:04 AM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles

Tom,

You might consider using a TV antenna rotor, the degree of motion may not be

as  fine as you desire, but I'm sure you could modify the controls to work 
off a relay. Also, dlink has a couple cameras that not only have audio in, 
but with an amp'd speaker can have audio out. They do have limited 
connections to control a relay, I think one or 2. Using a couple micro 
switches you could also control the rotation to prevent more than 360 
degrees, but I believe the TV rotor also prevents this.

Another thought is you may be able to use the pan and tilt circuitry to 
control a TV rotor? These can be controlled over Ethernet or through a 
wireless camera connection.

Tim Kerns
CV-Access, Inc.

- Original Message - 
From: Tom DeReggi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:21 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Motor controlled rotating poles


 For the longest time, I wanted to build a solution to do the following, 
 from each of our Master Cell Sites

 1) Rotate a IP Camera 360 deg (remotely over an IP connection)
 2) Rotate a Pole with a Trango Fox 5800SU on it 360 deg (remotely over IP 
 connection).

 The purpose is two fold

 When Link quality severally degrades for a short period, either packet 
 loss or rssi,

 1) To discover/view when there is a third party worker working on the roof

 of our cell site.
  (Who may be standing in front of antennas periodically or testing 
 gear that interfers without getting pre-approved)

 2) To do a spectrum site survey, on the fly in any direction, to find the 
 least noisy channel, WITHOUT taking the primary sector antenna down 
 (offline).

 By having the radio and the camera on the same pole, it would help confirm

 which direction we were pointing exactly when doing the survey. One of the

 other requirements is that it won't turn more that 360 in one direction to

 prevent cable CAT5 breaking, and to ahve a refference of the starting 
 point in deg, calibrated to a known direction (north 0 deg?).   What would

 REALLY be cool, is if it had a speaker out put on the camera, so I could 
 yell at the worker standing in front of my antenna :-).   I'm aware that 
 some camera may have an output for controlling a relay or servo motor, as 
 some solutions/platforms exist to mount and rotate a single camera 
 attached. Preferably, I'd like a solution that could rotate the pole 
 itself. Everything of course would need to be outdoor survivable, and 
 strong enough that the pole would stay errect and safe at 200-300 feet up.

 My thought is that maybe the controls could be initiated from the IP 
 Camera connections, If I found a rotating platform/pole mount.

 Are there any mechanical hobbyists out there, that might suggest the most 
 cost effective way to accomplish this?
 (My goal is lowest cost, lowest cost, lowest cost, so I can afford to 
 replicate the solution at about 20 locations)

 Tom DeReggi
 RapidDSL  Wireless, Inc
 IntAirNet- Fixed Wireless Broadband

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[WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

2006-11-29 Thread Mike Ireton
While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved 
community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that 
I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 
5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had 
planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or 
what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later 
and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of 
these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. 
Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods 
name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8?


Mike-

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Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

2006-11-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

roflol

Yeah, and MY backhoe is bigger than HIS too!

marlon

- Original Message - 
From: Patrick Leary [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 1:49 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet


I don't know, Marlon has a big ol' combine for a war chariot. Forbes,
you are going to have to get something bigger than rap bling.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rick Harnish
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 10:48 AM
To: 'WISPA General List'
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

Looks like a WISP War building in the deserts of Washington State ;)

Rick Harnish
President
OnlyInternet Broadband  Wireless, Inc.
260-827-2482
Founding Member of WISPA

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Forbes Mercy
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:00 PM
To: WISPA General List
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

Marlon,

HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel
we
are about to throw down some rap song, WORD!

Forbes

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer

Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM
To: WISPA General List
Cc:
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs
Internet



509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.

Thanks much!
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet



team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school.

he
wants

to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the

locality.


contact
shane c
509 364 3438 x203

zip 98619

bob kim
http://evdo-coverage.com
http://iptv-coverage.com
http://wimax-coverage.com
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Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet

2006-11-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer

lol

I saw it first!

Good luck with them.  Have fun.

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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet



Marlon,

HA! NorthEAST 509 may be  yours but I'm all about CENTRAL 509.  I feel we 
are about to throw down some rap song, WORD!


Forbes

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Marlon K. Schafer

Sent: Tue 11/28/2006 10:25 PM
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Cc:
Subject: Re: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet



509 is my turf.  I'll touch base with him.

Thanks much!
marlon

- Original Message -
From: Robert Kim Wireless Internet Advisor [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 10:16 AM
Subject: [WISPA] Lead - Glenwood, WA k-12 School Needs Internet


 team, im talking with the the superintendent glenwood school. he wants
 to know if anybody can set up a  wisp service for the locality.

 contact
 shane c
 509 364 3438 x203

 zip 98619

 bob kim
 http://evdo-coverage.com
 http://iptv-coverage.com
 http://wimax-coverage.com
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RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

2006-11-29 Thread Gino A. Villarini
Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for
tower backhaul

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Ireton
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved 
community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that 
I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 
5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had 
planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or 
what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later 
and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of 
these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. 
Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods 
name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8?

Mike-

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RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

2006-11-29 Thread Patrick Leary
Proxim (formerly Western Multiplex) Tsunami point-to-point radios. They
eat up the entire 100MHz. They are ancient, inefficient and use a crude
modulation, but that meant they worked, and worked well. Thousands of
them were sold and they are still being sold new.

Patrick Leary
AVP WISP Markets
Alvarion, Inc.
o: 650.314.2628
c: 760.580.0080
Vonage: 650.641.1243
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Ireton
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 5:25 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved 
community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that

I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru 
5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had 
planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or 
what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later

and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of 
these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work. 
Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods

name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8?

Mike-

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Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

2006-11-29 Thread Jack Unger
Asking the link owner to consider changing their antenna polarization is 
a good idea although their antenna and labor costs to do that could be 
kinda high depending on who they do (or don't) have on staff to do their 
tower and antenna work and what antennas they are currently using.


With a signal that loud, even cross-polarizing to drop it down by 15 or 
20 dBm would only lower it to -71 dBm or -76 dBm at best. It still could 
be loud enough to significantly reduce the receiving radius of Mike's 
possible new access point.


Often, when first installed, these links are set to run at full power 
when they may not actually need to run that hot. Sometimes the link 
owner will be willing to turn the power down a bit if asked. This would 
help Mike to increase his access point receiving distance.


Depending on the direction that the signal is coming from, Mike can 
sectorize, effectively turning his back on the noise. Then if he 
chooses an antenna with the opposite polarization, he may be able to get 
his small-area deployment to work OK.


jack


NOTE to Mike: That will be 50 cents, please.


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:


yeppers.  something like that.

Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the 
structure the antenna is on.


It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset 
your plan.


marlon

- Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?



Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for
tower backhaul

Gino A. Villarini
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Ireton
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved
community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that
I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru
5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had
planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or
what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later
and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of
these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work.
Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods
name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8?

Mike-

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Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

2006-11-29 Thread Travis Johnson

Mike,

One thing that is different with the Western Multiplex vs. Redline or 
others is the WM is a constant carrier, full-duplex radio. Changing 
them to a Redline or something else would actually be a downgrade for 
them... the true full-duplex operation as well as constant carrier radio 
makes this type of radio perfect for backhauling cellular and other 
telco type services.


We have several of the 2.4ghz WM full-duplex radios co-located on the 
same towers we are... you can sure tell with a SA exactly what channels 
they are using... ;)


Travis
Microserv

Mike Ireton wrote:

Marlon K. Schafer wrote:

yeppers.  something like that.

Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own 
the structure the antenna is on.


It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to 
reset your plan.




I think the concensus - western multiplex - makes sense. And probbly a 
cell carrier. I do totally understand legacy equipment and such, but 
dammit I could get a few hundred mbps out of that same chunk and have 
channel space left over... but again that's using moden equipment.


I know I probbly have zero chance of sucess, but would anyone think 
(provided I can find the operator) that we could work something out - 
either like a polarity change as marlon suggested, or just buy them 
some more spectrally effecient gear...? I understand they may need to 
have an actual T1 electrical interface, but there are a few players 
that can actually do this job with much much less spectrum. I know of 
ceragon and their fiberair, as well as redline can do this. I've never 
heard of a deal like this but it would be helpful. Otherwise I'm going 
to have to change plans and that's gonna be a little expensive. Sort 
of wish I'd done an SA first but it's in the middle of nowhere and I 
just assumed based on past experience it wasn't going to be a 
problem... WRONG!


Mike-


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Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

2006-11-29 Thread Marlon K. Schafer
One of the other things to do if they are using wmux is to make sure that 
they aren't running over powered.  Or that they can't turn the power down. 
I had a company run 6' dishes on a link of 13 miles.  Knocked me offline 
almost 40 miles away!  They had a 60, yes six zero, dB fade margin.  They 
were very nice about it and turned the power way down and we both worked 
just fine after that.


laters,
marlon

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To: WISPA General List wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?


Asking the link owner to consider changing their antenna polarization is a 
good idea although their antenna and labor costs to do that could be kinda 
high depending on who they do (or don't) have on staff to do their tower 
and antenna work and what antennas they are currently using.


With a signal that loud, even cross-polarizing to drop it down by 15 or 20 
dBm would only lower it to -71 dBm or -76 dBm at best. It still could be 
loud enough to significantly reduce the receiving radius of Mike's 
possible new access point.


Often, when first installed, these links are set to run at full power when 
they may not actually need to run that hot. Sometimes the link owner will 
be willing to turn the power down a bit if asked. This would help Mike to 
increase his access point receiving distance.


Depending on the direction that the signal is coming from, Mike can 
sectorize, effectively turning his back on the noise. Then if he chooses 
an antenna with the opposite polarization, he may be able to get his 
small-area deployment to work OK.


jack


NOTE to Mike: That will be 50 cents, please.


Marlon K. Schafer wrote:


yeppers.  something like that.

Triangulate in on where it's coming from and ask the folks that own the 
structure the antenna is on.


It might be cheaper to pay them to change polarities than it is to reset 
your plan.


marlon

- Original Message - From: Gino A. Villarini 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: 'WISPA General List' wireless@wispa.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:16 PM
Subject: RE: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?



Sounds like and old western multiplex tsunami used by cell carriers for
tower backhaul

Gino A. Villarini
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
tel  787.273.4143   fax   787.273.4145

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Mike Ireton
Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 9:25 PM
To: wireless@wispa.org
Subject: [WISPA] What the heck chews up 100mhz of 5.8ghz?!?

While installing a new canopy accesspoint today, in an unserved
community with no other wireless isps and little else, I discovered that
I have about a -56 avarage across the entire swath of 5750mhz thru
5845mhz... what the hell?!?!? It's a small area deployment and we had
planned on a simple low gain omni, but not now... I don't know who or
what but 100mhz, is that really necessary? I'm going to take an sm later
and see if I can get a better picture and determine the direction of
these signals and see if there's going to be any way to make this work.
Out in the middle of nowhere. But does anyone have any idea what in gods
name could occupy this much continuous spectrum in 5.8?

Mike-

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