[WISPA] Friday Canopy/Cambium 3.65Ghz Offer Request

[Clay Stewart]

I am re-listing a set of Canopy Radios for a failed WISP start-up I finally
took over their fiber point legally this week. I was held up one the first
listing having to wait for the acquisition of the companies other assets
(fiber point).

I have been asked to post and ask for offers. If my client does not get
some value in his head, he will keep them and use them at another location.
The AP and couple CPEs were field mounted and tested, rest are in boxes.
The company did not know about the low tree penetration and licensing
requirements for 3.65Ghz (area is in a Verizon Earth Station).

Items with original purchase prices

3630APC 3.65 Ghz Connectorized AP
 3,291.60
3.3-3.8 Ghz 16.5 DBI Gain 90 Degree Sector DUAL
  384.40
CMM w/Ruggedized Switch, GPS module
1,984.00
(25) HK1941A Subscriber Modules 3.65 Ghz w/power supplies  7,450.00
(25) Canopy Power Cords
  140.00
Canopy PMP-320 Stand-alone power supply
   42.50

Total original price for all less shipping:
 13,292.50


I am just listing for a client, not charging anything for effort.

I would like to sale the whole list as a whole, but will pass along any
other offers.

Shipping should be around $270 for everything.

Please serious offers only, did I say I am not making anything on listing
and boxing these items!

But also serious, these are basically new or like-new items, good deal I
would think.




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[WISPA] Friday - Canopy Eqpt repost

[Clay Stewart]

I am re-listing a set of Canopy Radios for a failed WISP start-up. I
finally took over their fiber point legally this week. I was held up on the
first listing having to wait for the acquisition of the companies other
assets (fiber point).

I have been asked to post and ask for offers. If my client does not get
some value in his head, he will keep them and use them at another location.
The AP and couple CPEs were field mounted and tested, rest are in boxes.
The company did not know about the low tree penetration and licensing
requirements for 3.65Ghz (area is in a Verizon Earth Station).

Items with original purchase prices

3630APC 3.65 Ghz Connectorized AP
 3,291.60
3.3-3.8 Ghz 16.5 DBI Gain 90 Degree Sector DUAL
  384.40
CMM w/Ruggedized Switch, GPS module
1,984.00
(25) HK1941A Subscriber Modules 3.65 Ghz w/power supplies  7,450.00
(25) Canopy Power Cords
  140.00
Canopy PMP-320 Stand-alone power supply
   42.50

Total original price for all less shipping:
 13,292.50


I am just listing for a client, not charging anything for effort.

I would like to sale the whole list as a whole, but will pass along any
other offers.

Shipping should be around $270 for everything.

Please serious offers only, did I say I am not making anything on listing
and boxing these items!

But also serious, these are basically new or like-new items, good deal I
would think.

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Re: [WISPA] job opening

[Clay Stewart]

That is about the same pay as for Washington DC... I admit though, I was
shot at not once but twice in DC and robbed several times ;'), so the
security may make the difference.

On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Cameron Crum  wrote:

> A buddy of mine who contracts with the government is looking for the
> following:
>
> Housing and security are provided in addition to the pay. Any adventurous
> types looking?
>
> Required: IT Professional
> Location: Kabul, Afghanistan
> Assess and optimize the national IP network – Perform assessment of
> backbone, recommend how to improve the configurations, train local staff
> while performing the work:
>
> • MPLS implementation
> • Cisco hardware software – Consultant must have strong Cisco networking
> skills
> • PGP
> • Routing
> • Filtering
>
> Up to 6 months
> $7K- $9K$ a month tax free (See your tax advisor)
> Location Kabul
> Travel/local accommodation/transport provided
>
> Hit me offlist if you or anyone you know might be interested.
>
> Regards,
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Re: [WISPA] Namobridge and Rockets

[Clay Stewart]

You will also want to play with power slide, 1 bump at  time, as 2 miles is
pretty short, especially for rocket.

I have a NBM5 which is set at 3 for one mile. Set it at 2... throughput
goes down... set it at 4... throughput goes down. Signal at -41 which
should be to high... but even though I turn it down to get signal level
down, we lose speed. At SL 3 and signal -41... it is happy.

Throughput is 88Mbps. SNL -93.



On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 3:56 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

> **
> Does anyone know?
> What  the throughput of these 2 systems when setup as 5.8  PTP?
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Re: [WISPA] Remote Boot Device

[Clay Stewart]

The current version of DL has been good to us... we have even had surges
taking out inline surge protect in the same box as the DLs and not lose a
single DL port. that and being able to add battery backup directly to box,
which has a trickle charge is a plus. Has held up in 18x18x6 NEMA boxes
even in summer weather. These are loose lid door, but no air venting or
fans.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 11:57 AM, ~NGL~  wrote:

> **
> What has been solid??
>
>  *From:* Greg Osborn 
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 03, 2013 8:50 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Remote Boot Device
>
> These have been solid for us.
>
> On 3/2/2013 8:08 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
>
> I need a remote boot device with the following specs:
> Will do a reboot (off then on) via the web.
> Works on 24 volts DC
> Load is less than  75  watts @ 24 volts
> This is a remote area. must work without fail.
> Thanx
> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti's Tough Switch TS5

[Clay Stewart]

I would be concerned... although I am a big UBNT fan, out of 8 TS5s, 1/2
have failed due to surges... and yes I use a surge protector on each port
before radio. Whereas out of 10 DLs I have loss 2, and they were the
initial model.

On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

> **
>
>
> Will this work on a pure 24 volt solar system?
> Will it tolerate the voltage changes 24 to  28 volts?
> The specs say max 60 watts, is that with gear attached or just the TS?
> Is it a true POE and  switch in one unit?
> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti's Tough Switch TS5

[Clay Stewart]

DL is not a switch, we tie in MT493gs on lan ports. DLs do well with less
volts, will check max, gave that somewhere

On Saturday, March 30, 2013, ~NGL~ wrote:

> **
> Same questions:
>
> Will the DL
>  Will this work on a pure 24 volt solar system?
> Will it tolerate the voltage changes 24 to  28 volts?
> What is the total wattage  with gear attached ?
> Is it a true POE and  switch in one unit?
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart  'cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com');>
> *Sent:* Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:04 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List  'wireless@wispa.org');>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti's Tough Switch TS5
>
> I would be concerned... although I am a big UBNT fan, out of 8 TS5s, 1/2
> have failed due to surges... and yes I use a surge protector on each port
> before radio. Whereas out of 10 DLs I have loss 2, and they were the
> initial model.
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  'cvml', 'n...@ngl.net');>> wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Will this work on a pure 24 volt solar system?
>> Will it tolerate the voltage changes 24 to  28 volts?
>> The specs say max 60 watts, is that with gear attached or just the TS?
>> Is it a true POE and  switch in one unit?
>> Thanx
>> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti's Tough Switch TS5

[Clay Stewart]

The DLs have dual voltage regulators and trikle charger built in, so no
issue on aolar flux voltage

On Saturday, March 30, 2013, Clay Stewart wrote:

> DL is not a switch, we tie in MT493gs on lan ports. DLs do well with less
> volts, will check max, gave that somewhere
>
> On Saturday, March 30, 2013, ~NGL~ wrote:
>
>> **
>> Same questions:
>>
>> Will the DL
>>  Will this work on a pure 24 volt solar system?
>> Will it tolerate the voltage changes 24 to  28 volts?
>> What is the total wattage  with gear attached ?
>> Is it a true POE and  switch in one unit?
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart
>> *Sent:* Saturday, March 30, 2013 11:04 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti's Tough Switch TS5
>>
>> I would be concerned... although I am a big UBNT fan, out of 8 TS5s, 1/2
>> have failed due to surges... and yes I use a surge protector on each port
>> before radio. Whereas out of 10 DLs I have loss 2, and they were the
>> initial model.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 1:48 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>>
>>>
>>> Will this work on a pure 24 volt solar system?
>>> Will it tolerate the voltage changes 24 to  28 volts?
>>> The specs say max 60 watts, is that with gear attached or just the TS?
>>> Is it a true POE and  switch in one unit?
>>> Thanx
>>> NGL
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>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Rocket Titanium

[Clay Stewart]

Has anyone used one of these to 'upgrade' a site to 24VDC while keeping it
24VDC?

http://www.alliedelec.com/search/productdetail.aspx?SKU=70069882#tab=specs



On Sun, Apr 7, 2013 at 4:41 PM, Jon Auer  wrote:

> That has been true, but it seems like the cell world has been moving to
> 48V lately.
> Examples:
> Alvarion carrier WiMax (2.5Ghz), macro and micro uses 48V (maybe you can
> get it in 24V, the stuff I've seen has all been 48V)
> With packet optical, if you put a Cyan box in that uses 24V you
> need separate linecard spares as they aren't compatible with the 48V stuff
> in core.
> More microwave backhauls are at 48V. Newer all-outdoor ones are using POE+
> / 802.3at which is 48V.
> Cisco ASR901S pole-mount routers output POE+ so you have one outdoor box
> to take your fiber and go to microwave to other sites.
> Most Ethernet switches are AC or -48DC.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 6, 2013 at 2:01 PM, Fred Goldstein wrote:
>
>> On 4/6/2013 2:20 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>> > They should have always been 48v. I think the only reason they
>> > weren't always 48v was because the RB5xx boards had problems
>> > producing noise at 48v.
>>
>> The commercial wireless world (cell sites) is all 24 volt.  The wireline
>> world is 48 volt.  So I can see why they would use 24 volts, but 48 is
>> usually only for central office buildings, where there is no radio gear
>> except, perhaps, some old-fashioned fixed microwave.  A handful of
>> competitive players are doing microwave collocation in COs, but given
>> the cost, a power converter would be the least of their worries.
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> > http://www.ics-il.com
>> >
>> > - Original Message - From: "Robert"
>> >  To: "paolo difrancesco"
>> > , "WISPA General List"
>> >  Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 11:18:33 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [WISPA] Ubiquiti Rocket Titanium
>> >
>> > Exactly...   UBNT looks more and more like a company trying less and
>> > less to stay out in front of the competition but locking in their
>> > customers...   Very apple-ish...   h   Robert was at apple...
>> >
>> >
>> > On 04/06/2013 09:11 AM, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:
>> >> Hi Josh
>> >>
>> >> I did not notice the voltage change, but it looks like more a
>> >> business strategy (their switch does 24V and 48V) to lockout other
>> >> vendors than a real technical need
>> >>
>> >> Should I reimplement again a new battery system at 48V for the
>> >> site? Hum
>> >>
>> >> Thank you
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>> Ya...better.  Different voltage though.
>> >>>
>> >>> Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne
>> >>> St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
>> >>>
>> >>> On Apr 6, 2013 11:04 AM, "Paolo Di Francesco"
>> >>> > >>> <mailto:paolo.difrance...@level7.it>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi all
>> >>>
>> >>> I was wondering if the Rockets-Titanium are stable, or if
>> >>> somebody is using them with success. Not sure if they perform
>> >>> better than the "plastic" ubiquiti
>> >>>
>> >>> Still missing the multiple SSID and IPv6 support, who knows if
>> >>> Ubiquiti will implement that sooner or later...
>> >>>
>> >>> Let me know your feedback and if the extra cost worths the
>> >>> improvements :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you
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Re: [WISPA] Law Enforcement Contact Verification?

[Clay Stewart]

phishy phishy phishy

On Wed, Apr 10, 2013 at 6:14 PM, Adam Greene  wrote:

> Anyone else receive a “Law Enforcement Contact Verification” email from
> Mosaik Solutions (formerly American Roamer) requesting our company’s
> “organizational contacts responsible for interacting with Homeland Security
> and other law enforcement agencies, as is required of us by the US
> Department of Homeland Security”?
>
> ** **
>
> Seems strange to me that a private company would contact me out of the
> blue, implying that they are an official intermediary of the US Government.
> 
>
> ** **
>
> I’m not liking it … almost sounds like a phishing scheme.
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Re: [WISPA] Waterproofing the NanoBridge

[Clay Stewart]

Can't resist, and pretty amazing anyhow:
waterproof<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPM8OR6W6WE&feature=em-share_video_user>

Be amazed, watch whole vid.

On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Say what?  NanoBridges are pretty much an all-in-one piece of plastic...
> shouldn't be anything to water proof.
>
>
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> On 4/16/13 1:08 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
> > Because of the problems I have had with the Bullets, I wonder if there
> > is any thing I should do to waterproof  the NB's?
> > Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Waterproofing the NanoBridge

[Clay Stewart]

We had those issues with Bullets too, and used Coax Seal on them which
worked quite well... but we have not used anything on NBs or NSs or NLs and
have had no issues. We do mount lights down on NBs, to see them, and
trusting that position against water.


On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 1:08 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

> **
> Because of the problems I have had with the Bullets, I wonder if there is
> any thing I should do to waterproof  the NB's?
> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap

[Clay Stewart]

Agreed, 30 max, use shields, add more radios.

On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Andy Trimmell wrote:

> I wouldn't exceed 30 either with each AP.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *jrichard...@aircloud.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 2:58 PM
> *To:* 'WISPA General List'
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] # of subs per ap
>
> ** **
>
> With 5x5 and 5x3 sustained ~30.
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ~Jerry
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Terry White
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 04, 2013 11:17 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] # of subs per ap
>
> ** **
>
> I have put up 2 UBNT 3.65 ap on a tower with a 60 mg fiber backhaul. I
> have set the Aps to 10 MHZ Channel and was going to offer a 5x5 or a 5x3.
> how many subs should I expect to be able to put on each ap
>
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Re: [WISPA] Voltage regulator

[Clay Stewart]

I have been curious if anyone has ever tried an automotive 24vdc regulator,
like Volvos and some tractors? They seem to be much more substantially
built then something like the Tycons I have...

On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 7:25 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> I use
>
> DCDC regulator and din rail kit
>
> Meanwell SD-50B-24
> Meanwell DRL-02
> Meanwell DRP-03
> Three M3x6 screws and two M4x6 screws
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 6:32 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> Use a meanwell RSD series power supply.   RSD-100B-24 takes from
>> 16.8-31.2VDC in and converts it to a clean 24V out.
>>
>> The 100 means 100W.  There are other wattages.   (24V/4.8A is 100W, more
>> than enough for 8-10 UBNT radios).
>> B means '24v in'.   There are other ranges, not all are available in all
>> wattages.
>>
>> The RSD handles inrush better than the SD versions.   There are din rail
>> and wall mount brackets available for this power supply.
>>
>> -forrest
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>> **
>>> I need a means to regulate the voltage coming out of the
>>> Solar Controller  I need a constant 24 volts for Tranzeo and Ubiquiti
>>> radios. I now have between 25 and 29 volts.
>>> Any suggestions?
>>> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends

[Clay Stewart]

Yes, after crimping any wire end pull tab out as most crimpers we have used
compress the tab.

We use UBNT ends with no real issues... over a thousand plus with two
missing a single wire contact, which did cause a little time finding the
issue... but had seen this in other brands as well.

Hopefully you do have a tech pulllng the plugs out hard from the NSsm which
will break the lock piece in the socket.



On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Pull the tab out a bit.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jul 23, 2013 4:26 PM, "Dave Hulsebus"  wrote:
>
>> **
>> We found the last 3 boxes of Tough connectors we've purchased have had
>> issues staying snapped into NanoBridges. They just won't snap in and work
>> their way out just enough to cause failure over time. No issues with any
>> other radio's - just NB's.  Has anyone else experienced this issue ?
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>  --
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:30 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
>>
>>   Yes.
>>
>> There are two styles.  One has no metal shielding, the other does.  Both
>> are expensive (relatively) but I’m addicted to them.  I love not having to
>> worry about how far back I strip things.  Not having to worry about wires
>> crossing when pushed into the connector (I can check them before crimping)
>> etc.
>>
>> http://ezrj45.com/ezrj45plugs.php?gclid=CLSDvLWfxrgCFWXZQgodwlQANg
>>
>> Marsh cable stocks them.
>>
>> marlon
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Kevin Owen 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:21 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
>>
>>
>> Do they support shielded cabling?
>>
>> 
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>> 
>>
>> 
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 11:14 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
>>
>> 
>>
>> We love the EZ-RJ45 units.  Get them from Marsh Cable.
>>
>>  
>>
>> It’s the style where the wires go right through the ends of the
>> connectors and the crimper crimps and cuts at the same time.  HUGE time
>> saver.
>>
>>  
>>
>> marlon
>>
>>  
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* heith petersen  
>>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 23, 2013 6:50 AM
>>
>> *To:* wireless@wispa.org 
>>
>> *Subject:* [WISPA] shielded rj45 ends
>>
>>  
>>
>> I was curious what shielded ends members are using. I typically use the
>> cable that Cayman wireless sells, definitely not tough cable. I prefer the
>> UBNT tough ends as I have no issues with them, however some of my techs
>> dread them. I have purchased some other ends in the past but at a high
>> premium. Anyways just looking for some ideas as I am getting out voted on
>> the tough ends.
>>
>>  
>>
>> thanks
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Clay Stewart]

I have used horse mats from Tractor Supply... work very well and last.

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:

> Pretty sure the roof is rubber, but I haven't been on it yet. Roof mats
> are definitely a good idea.
> Years ago when I worked at a WISP, I think we used rubber truck mud flaps.
> Cheap and can be purchased locally.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
>
>>  B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack
>> and eat right through it.
>> I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of
>> a multi-million dollar house.
>>
>> At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask
>> around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.
>>
>> ryan
>>
>>
>> On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
>>
>> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
>> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
>> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
>> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
>> couple conduit hangers.
>>
>> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
>> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>>
>> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
>> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
>> conserve on labor.)
>>
>> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
>> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
>> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
>> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
>> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
>> originally happened to have lying around.
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>>
>>>  Hello list,
>>>
>>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>>
>>>  Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square
>>> out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>>
>>>  Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>>
>>>  Thanks in advance,
>>>
>>> Josh
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Re: [WISPA] Need small non-penetrating roof mount for single Nanostation + 5ft mast

[Clay Stewart]

I wonder if you could bolt a 5' stanchion to a mat, which the mat's weight
would hold such a small radio with no issue. Like a four bolt foot plate on
a pole...???

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:20 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> I have used horse mats from Tractor Supply... work very well and last.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Joshua Zukerman  wrote:
>
>> Pretty sure the roof is rubber, but I haven't been on it yet. Roof mats
>> are definitely a good idea.
>> Years ago when I worked at a WISP, I think we used rubber truck mud
>> flaps. Cheap and can be purchased locally.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Ryan Spott  wrote:
>>
>>>  B VERY careful when using treated wood on a metal roof. It will attack
>>> and eat right through it.
>>> I caught my first do-it-yourself mount before it got through the roof of
>>> a multi-million dollar house.
>>>
>>> At a minimum use a roof pad. If you can't find one for cheap then ask
>>> around your friends with horses. Use a stall mat cut to the right size.
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/30/13 11:14 AM, Ben West wrote:
>>>
>>> For ultra low-cost non-penetrating roof mounts, I've been playing around
>>> with J-Bars salvaged from discarded Dish TV equipment, mounted to a base
>>> made from scrap treated lumber and weighted down with cinderblocks.  Then,
>>> I mate a vertical length of EMT conduit, 1/2" or better yet 3/4", using a
>>> couple conduit hangers.
>>>
>>> http://goo.gl/ojvZu0
>>> http://goo.gl/6Wu0My
>>>
>>> Maybe this can give you a general idea, although this would definitely
>>> have a conspicuous DIY look.  (I just try to make these things in batch, to
>>> conserve on labor.)
>>>
>>> I should note the latter photo, which might be of the most interest to
>>> you, is now out of date.  The wood beams making up the base were rearranged
>>> into a "V" shape for more width, with a metal brace spanning the mouth of
>>> the "V" for stiffness.  Likewise the 24inch vertical mast was replaced with
>>> a completely straight section of EMT, instead of that weird zig-zag piece I
>>> originally happened to have lying around.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Joshua Zukerman wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hello list,
>>>>
>>>> I am setting up a PtP link between two gas stations for a client. I am
>>>> going to be using two Nanostation M5 units going about 1/2mi diagonally
>>>> across a highway. I'd like to mount them to a 5ft mast then to a
>>>> non-penetrating roof mount, as the only place with clear line-of-sight is
>>>> on the roof of both gas stations. Flat roof without much of a lip to mount
>>>> an antenna to. All of my Google searches come up with much larger
>>>> non-penetrating roof mounts, 3' or wider, which are designed for much
>>>> larger and taller masts. Also very pricey, $150 or more each.
>>>>
>>>>  Does anyone make a small non-penetrating roof mount, say 2ft square
>>>> out of metal with an attachment to hold a 5ft mast or including a 5ft mast?
>>>> Maybe a single cinder/cement block to weigh it down would be all that is
>>>> needed. Won't ever need to go higher.
>>>>
>>>>  Or do you have another suggestion for mounting?
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Josh
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance has our seal of approval

[Clay Stewart]

AQre you comaring UBNT standard panels with KP or the Titanium sectors?

On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Heith Petersen wrote:

> This is a screen shot (sorry about the quality) of a UBNT M2 Rocket AP
> with a standard UBNT 120 panel. This sits next to a Canopy 900 120 degree
> panel. We had been dealing with interference issues for a while on the 900.
> We had just a few customers on the UBNT until we were forced to try to get
> more of them on the UBNT due to the interference. We installed the dishes
> on 7 of the NSM2 and achieved great signal and throughput up to 27 miles.
> Some of the signals are not stellar but the customers are extremely
> satisfied. The one at 18.5 miles uses that other brand of reflector, the
> one with the chinsy UBolt instead of a standard round dish mast like the KP
> dish uses. The next time  we are in the area it will be getting switched
> out for a KP dish. Next step is to switch out the stocker UBNT panel for a
> KP Panel. Anyways hats off to our friends to the north
>
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance has our seal of approval

[Clay Stewart]

Sorry, replaced keyboard with coffee, it had more then me this morning.
Anyway

The question is are you comparing standard UBNT sectors or Titanium sectors
with KP?

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> AQre you comaring UBNT standard panels with KP or the Titanium sectors?
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Heith Petersen wrote:
>
>> This is a screen shot (sorry about the quality) of a UBNT M2 Rocket AP
>> with a standard UBNT 120 panel. This sits next to a Canopy 900 120 degree
>> panel. We had been dealing with interference issues for a while on the 900.
>> We had just a few customers on the UBNT until we were forced to try to get
>> more of them on the UBNT due to the interference. We installed the dishes
>> on 7 of the NSM2 and achieved great signal and throughput up to 27 miles.
>> Some of the signals are not stellar but the customers are extremely
>> satisfied. The one at 18.5 miles uses that other brand of reflector, the
>> one with the chinsy UBolt instead of a standard round dish mast like the KP
>> dish uses. The next time  we are in the area it will be getting switched
>> out for a KP dish. Next step is to switch out the stocker UBNT panel for a
>> KP Panel. Anyways hats off to our friends to the north
>>
>> heith
>>
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Re: [WISPA] KP Performance has our seal of approval

[Clay Stewart]

Then my point would be that comparing the KP to UBNT standards is apples
and oranges. A comparison of KP and Titanium would be apples and apples.
Also a comparison of standard UBNT with RF Shields and KP would be apples
and apples.

We are finding that the TIs are rock solid allowing several on same plane
of a tower, and also have had great success of interference removal using
RF Shields on standard model sectors.

Anyone can add experience using KP and TI or KP and RF Shielded standards?

On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:18 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   just standard unbt panel with rocket, however we have a few APs running
> KP antennas and they seem real solid
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 06, 2013 8:27 AM
> *To:* Heith Petersen  ; WISPA General 
> List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] KP Performance has our seal of approval
>
> Sorry, replaced keyboard with coffee, it had more then me this morning.
> Anyway
>
> The question is are you comparing standard UBNT sectors or Titanium
> sectors with KP?
>
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Clay Stewart <
> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>> AQre you comaring UBNT standard panels with KP or the Titanium sectors?
>>
>>  On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Heith Petersen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This is a screen shot (sorry about the quality) of a UBNT M2 Rocket AP
>>> with a standard UBNT 120 panel. This sits next to a Canopy 900 120 degree
>>> panel. We had been dealing with interference issues for a while on the 900.
>>> We had just a few customers on the UBNT until we were forced to try to get
>>> more of them on the UBNT due to the interference. We installed the dishes
>>> on 7 of the NSM2 and achieved great signal and throughput up to 27 miles.
>>> Some of the signals are not stellar but the customers are extremely
>>> satisfied. The one at 18.5 miles uses that other brand of reflector, the
>>> one with the chinsy UBolt instead of a standard round dish mast like the KP
>>> dish uses. The next time  we are in the area it will be getting switched
>>> out for a KP dish. Next step is to switch out the stocker UBNT panel for a
>>> KP Panel. Anyways hats off to our friends to the north
>>>
>>> heith
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8 Separation

[Clay Stewart]

In extending this thread... what about a 5.8 Dishes with a 2.4 Dish
(Rockets). I want to add a 2.4 rocket dish where I have several 5.8 RDs and
PowerBridges 5.8... problem being space, I need to put dish within 2' - 3'
of 5.8 dishes.

On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:07 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) <
o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:

>   A good rule of thumb is at least 10’ vertical or 20’ horizontal between
> anything in the same band.
>
> Further is better [image: Smile].
> marlon
>
>
>  *From:* ~NGL~ 
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 08, 2013 4:37 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* [WISPA] 5.8 Separation
>
>  We have the following setup:
> Tower 1 = Tranzeo  TR-5 plus AP
> Tower 2 = Tranzeo TR-5 plus CPE +   TR-5 plus AP
> Tower 3 = Tranzeo TR-5 plus CPE
> These have worked fine for several years, now we want to add a duplicate
> link using Nanobridges 5.8 instead of the Tranzeo TR-5 Plus gear.
>
> How much physical separation should we plan on between the Tranzeo units
> and the Nanobridges?
>
> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Be careful out/up there

[Clay Stewart]

Yeah, NTelos lost a contractor near me last week... experienced climber
fell 100'. It takes 2.5 seconds to fall 100' ... not enough time to say to
yourself, "Wh, but I know I had clipped in, I wonder wha."

On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Scott Parsons  wrote:

>  Guys, Be extra careful up there.
>
>
> http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323980604579027133430671484.html?mod=ITP_marketplace_0
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Re: [WISPA] Amazon Wireless coming soon??

[Clay Stewart]

Good news, the more video on 4G/LTE the less resources for other things,
such as fixed wireless (HomeFusion) etc...

>From CISCO 
>estimates<http://www.cisco.com/en/US/solutions/collateral/ns341/ns525/ns537/ns705/ns827/white_paper_c11-520862.html>
:



On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Lists  wrote:

>
> http://www.latimes.com/business/technology/la-fi-tn-amazon-globalstar-20130823,0,4792322.story
>
>  Looks like they are trying to get a Wifi channel opened up that we could
> be using. They threw the term "Managed" in there as well.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

[Clay Stewart]

Ditto on UBNT Cable... new cable is dong well (PRO). Carrier is very good
and we are STILL replacing some older cable. An issue with the Carrier is
in using UBNT connectors is hard to do... we criomp down on a 1/4" second
shield as the cable is too thick at the outer jacket.


On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:

>  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
> but like the UBNT more.
>
> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green gooey
> flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>
>
> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
> box now!!!
>
>
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>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen wrote:
>
>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at using
>> more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are hooked
>> on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others were
>> using for something easier to work with
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Shielded Cable for Installation

[Clay Stewart]

I am so trying to be professional here, "He's tiny compared to me and I'm
tiny compared to most of you guys."

Tough.




On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:58 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> If my installer and me can carry the box, so can you guys.  He's tiny
> compared to me and I'm tiny compared to most of you guys.
>
> Now if the 500' spool was <50% in price I'd have no problem with that =)
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>
>>  I'll have to agree with Josh.  We like the "Pro" for residential
>> installs.   Nice box / spool, reasonable diameter and flexibility.  The box
>> is a bit heavy - a 500' box might be easier for installers to work with.
>> The Carrier version is overkill with two shields.  We like shireen as well,
>> but like the UBNT more.
>>
>> In no way does it resemble the old toughcable that turned into green
>> gooey flakes after being in the sun  a few days.
>>
>>
>> On 9/17/2013 10:05 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>> I've been using the (new) ToughCable.  The shielding is great and the
>> plastic seems to actually work!  The box, believe it or not, is actually a
>> box now!!!
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 17, 2013 at 11:40 AM, Heith Petersen 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>   Probably beating a dead horse here. We are definitely looking at
>>> using more or all shielded cable at residential installs. Currently we are
>>> hooked on the tower cable that we use, but was curious as to what others
>>> were using for something easier to work with
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

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DO not know off hand, but what I do is use an APC UPS unit with LED power
wattage info, plug in the item I want to know the true wattage and these
guys will give it too you. More accurate then a spec sheet ;')


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> **
> Anyone know the wattage a ToughSwitch 5 port uses when powered directly by
> a 24 volt battery system. I need to be sure I have enough solar  to keep
> tha system up
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Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question

[Clay Stewart]

I would think the radio will have to have a connection to use full amps.


On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:51 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> So funny story - my original ToughSwitch died sometime between Friday and
> today.  This came from Ubnt themselves in Vegas last year (it almost made
> it a year).
>
> So I took the new one in the box and put it in.  I did all of the
> measurements on the AC side because I have a cord that enables me to easily
> do this.  To measure the DC side, I'd have to cut open the wiring and I'd
> probably throw it away afterwards.
>
> 121.4 to 122.2 vac
> default (powered on, logged into it) 0.05 amp
> enabled all 5 poe ports (24v) no change
> put on old ns2 got .07 amps
> put on ns5m got .09 amps
>
> Now I'm not very confident in saying a Ubnt radio is only 2.5 watts
> (122vac * 0.02amps), but at idle I can't say that's impossible.  It
> definitely went up another 0.01 amps while booting, but lost it when it was
> fully booted.
>
>
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> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>> **
>> 4 ports will be POE, 1 will be a switch
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Randy Cosby 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 12:45 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question
>>
>> Better also plan on how many ports will have POE turned on -- even if you
>> don't have load on them yet to measure against.  Turning the relays "on"
>> takes more power.
>>
>>
>> On 9/24/2013 1:32 PM, ~NGL~ wrote:
>>
>> Thanx, I really need to know.
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 24, 2013 11:06 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] ToughSwitch Question
>>
>> If you can't get the answer let me know, I have an amp meter and a NIB
>> ToughSwitch.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:55 PM, Clay Stewart <
>> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>
>>> DO not know off hand, but what I do is use an APC UPS unit with LED
>>> power wattage info, plug in the item I want to know the true wattage and
>>> these guys will give it too you. More accurate then a spec sheet ;')
>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 12:18 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>
>>>>   Anyone know the wattage a ToughSwitch 5 port uses when powered
>>>> directly by a 24 volt battery system. I need to be sure I have enough solar
>>>>  to keep tha system up
>>>> Thanx
>>>> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] packaging suggestions

[Clay Stewart]

treaming) and has their share
> of Microsoft Updates to deal with, but only watches a little streaming.
> It's the 100+ GB users you want to ding.  But you can create a low-cost
> plan (say, <10 GB) for those who mainly need just email and web.  It still
> beats mobile.
>
> Throttling T-Mobile style (say, down to 512/256k, not 80/24k) seems more
> friendly to me than hitting someone with a big bill.  That would be
> "neutral" but block TV.  And you could even let people "bank" last month's
> unused quota (AT&T does this with minutes, right?) for those special
> occasions (like the Breaking Bad finale), if your software can handle it.
> But a bill-based system is easier to implement... at least if you don't
> count post-bill customer calls.
>
> I wish there were an easy answer but this is going to be a big issue so
> it's good that you're bringing it up for discussion.
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Questioin

[Clay Stewart]

We have up to 40, although more may be done, just do not have any locations
going above this range at this time.


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> **
> How many clients are you associating to a Rocket M2?
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Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

[Clay Stewart]

That is a good point, "is there anything we can do" to get users off XP?
When these systems get infected (I would assume some savy hackers and
spammers are gearing up for the end of XP patches), we will suffer too...
in our networks.


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg Osborn  wrote:

> It works itself out……
>
> ** **
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eCd6xUSik
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2013 5:32 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Windows XP
>
> ** **
>
> Well, it won't be working for long if they don't upgrade.
>
>
>
> -
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>
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> *From: *"Blair Davis" 
> *To: *memb...@wispa.org, "WISPA General List" 
> *Sent: *Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:09:39 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] Windows XP
>
> Windows XP security updates end in April 2014.
>
> Windows XP usage still above 30%.
>
> Is there anything we, as ISP's, can do to protect our users who, for
> whatever reason have not, will not or can not upgrade?
>
> I have users who won't spend $$ to replace a working system if they
> don't see a good reason to.
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Questioin

[Clay Stewart]

We are running plans up to 5M/2M at 10CW with no issues on APs with up to
30.


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:51 AM, Greg Osborn  wrote:

> We are limiting to 30 with 10mhz cw.  Packages from 1m/256k to 3m/768k.
> Somewhere around there, we start getting complaints.
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Clay Stewart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, October 16, 2013 12:27 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Rocket M2 Questioin
>
> ** **
>
> We have up to 40, although more may be done, just do not have any
> locations going above this range at this time.
>
> ** **
>
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 12:04 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
> How many clients are you associating to a Rocket M2?
>
> Thanx
>
> NGL
>
> 
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Re: [WISPA] Windows XP

[Clay Stewart]

Offer service to upgrade for $99... WIN7 plus labor?


On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 7:56 PM, Blair Davis  wrote:

>  That was why I brought it up.
>
> I don't believe we can force users off XP.
> Obviously, proper port blocking helps.  Placing your XP users on source
> NAT'ed IP's might help.
>
> Are there other options?  Packet filtering?  Email filtering?  Something
> else?
>
> --
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>
>
>
>
> On 10/17/2013 6:31 PM, Clay Stewart wrote:
>
> That is a good point, "is there anything we can do" to get users off XP?
> When these systems get infected (I would assume some savy hackers and
> spammers are gearing up for the end of XP patches), we will suffer too...
> in our networks.
>
>
> On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Greg Osborn wrote:
>
>>  It works itself out……
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4eCd6xUSik
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
>> *Sent:* Monday, October 14, 2013 5:32 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Windows XP
>>
>>
>>
>> Well, it won't be working for long if they don't upgrade.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
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>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Blair Davis" 
>> *To: *memb...@wispa.org, "WISPA General List" 
>> *Sent: *Sunday, October 13, 2013 11:09:39 PM
>> *Subject: *[WISPA] Windows XP
>>
>> Windows XP security updates end in April 2014.
>>
>> Windows XP usage still above 30%.
>>
>> Is there anything we, as ISP's, can do to protect our users who, for
>> whatever reason have not, will not or can not upgrade?
>>
>> I have users who won't spend $$ to replace a working system if they
>> don't see a good reason to.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Batteries?

[Clay Stewart]

6VDC golf cart batteries 105AH or so. SAMS Club.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:55 AM, Mike Lyon  wrote:

> What is everyones favorite 12vdc battery for there solar sites? I
> believe Interstate is a WISPA vendor member, correct?
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Re: [WISPA] High winds destroy wind turbine blades

[Clay Stewart]

If they are boomerang blades, they will be back in a while.


On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Well, if you wouldn't put boomerang blades on it it might have lasted
> longer. :P
>
> Yikes!
>
> On Oct 28, 2013, at 14:54, Randy Cosby  wrote:
>
> > Nasty wind storms moving through Utah.  This site can get over 100MPH
> > but our trusty AirBreeze as survived over 3 years.  Not today.  Caught
> > the destruction on our airCam this morning.
> >
> > http://youtu.be/4KvxGpwBj1w
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Re: [WISPA] Liability Insurance

[Clay Stewart]

Agreed, be up front.
On Nov 11, 2013 2:59 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Yes.  Tell them what you do, otherwise you might not get the right
> insurance and consequently you'll end up in a situation where you'll pay
> the premiums for years and dumped on the first claim.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Roger Howard wrote:
>
>> When a wireless ISP shops for general liability insurance, do you just
>> tell the insurance agent that you are an ISP? Or should you tell them you
>> climb towers and climb on people's roofs?
>>
>> I just want to make sure that in the event of a claim that we are
>> covered. If I tell them I'm an ISP and then there is a tower incident,
>> would they say sorry that's not covered since you didn't tell us you climb
>> towers?
>>
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Re: [WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool

[Clay Stewart]

Is it accurate using it on a Raspberry-pi? I was loading up my first one
today to try out Iperf. Since someone on this thread mentioned 'CPU', I was
wondering if that would be an issue on a PI? Clocked at 800Mhz..


On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> iPerf is very accurate in what it tells you. What you draw from those
> conclusions may or may not be accurate.
>
>
>
> -
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> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 12, 2013 12:50:51 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] iPerf as a Real-World Performance Simulation Tool
>
>
> Has anyone used iPerf before? I'm curious of your thoughts as to the
> reliability, and how the results would map to a real-world environment.
> For example, a friend was testing some 3.65 radios (which had no
> connection to the Internet) using iPerf. Based upon the iPerf results, a
> determination was made regarding maximum concurrent users per AP and
> maximum aggregate bandwidth capacity of the radio. For the maximum
> concurrent users I believe they tested this at several different
> download and upload speed for the fictional users.
>
> Having never used iPerf, I don't know if the results from their tests
> (which were very poor by the way - much lower than common configurations
> of DL/UL rates as well as number of users per AP I've read many of you
> describing on these lists) map reasonably to what one would expect from
> a given AP, or if they tend to be wonky.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Surge Protection for UBNT Gear

[Clay Stewart]

We use TP-ESP-100-POE-24 or TP-ESP-1000-POE-24 extensively. Low cost and
works.


On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Sam  wrote:

> I thought the same thing Josh. But our tower guys insist on additional
> surge protection. For example, they said:
>
> "We have a surge protector that we install on the Cambium (Orthogon) PTP
> radio product when the radios are mounted up the tower, but it is
> proprietary to Cambium since they have their own scheme for powering the
> radios over the Ethernet cable where standard Ethernet surge protectors
> will not work.  If the radio vendor is not following industry standard
> POE pinouts and voltage levels for the cable running up the tower,
> finding a suitable surge protector may be difficult unless they are like
> Cambium and OEM their own flavor of Surge Protector."
>
> So I was hoping to find something similar for the UBNT products...
>
> Sam
>
>
> On 11/14/2013 08:04, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > Shielded cable and stock poe?
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Nov 14, 2013 9:01 AM, "Sam"  > <mailto:w...@csilogan.com>> wrote:
> >
> > What have you found to be the best surge protection for UBNT gear? I
> see
> > where a couple of guys on one of the UBNT lists suggest a
> "Magic-Bullet"
> > (http://magicsurge.com/catalog/) but I thought I'd ask what the
> people
> > using this every day recommend.
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Dielectric Grease

[Clay Stewart]

It is great if you do, not real bad if you don't... unless the unit allows
extra moisture. The issue is being disciplined enough to do it every
time times the guys you have in the field. When you are on a roof, and
the tube is down in another bag in the truck... most likely you will not
climb all the way down and back up for the benefit.

But if you are organized and disciplined, dielectric grease will guarantee
years of service on electrical connectors. It is why car manufacturers use
it on their connectors.Especially with the long warranties in service today.


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>  Anybody using dielectric grease on RJ45 connectors?
> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] DDOS attack

[Clay Stewart]

Joe, if it is overwhelming your router, run the sniffer (may take a few
minutes to start and then stop) and then you will have to disconnect (turn
off WAN) in order to copy file out to computer.

I have been through a bunch of these over last couple months, including a
couple this last weekend.


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:19 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> We'll need to know what kind of attack it is to help you. From outside
> directing at your IPs, DNS amplification, incoming SPAM, outgoing SPAM,
> etc.?
>
>
>
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> *Sent: *Thursday, November 21, 2013 10:06:29 AM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] DDOS attack
>
>
> I’m getting slammed with emails from my provider regarding a possible DDOS
> attacks to several of my IP’s.
>
>
>
> I’m using Mikrotik and just trying to figure out how to stop this.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
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Re: [WISPA] DDOS attack

[Clay Stewart]

Joe, run the sniffer under tools for 30sec to a minute, and dump file to
desktop... open with WireShark to determine for sure of it is mail spam or
port attack.

Are your routers overloading to 100%, or bandwidth is being overloaded?


On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 11:06 AM, Joe Miller wrote:

> I’m getting slammed with emails from my provider regarding a possible DDOS
> attacks to several of my IP’s.
>
>
>
> I’m using Mikrotik and just trying to figure out how to stop this.
>
>
>
> Any help would be appreciated.
>
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Clay Stewart]

Steve, what LP gas gen did you buy for $650? You say it has an automatic
electric start?


On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 8:57 AM, Steve Utick  wrote:

> We bought in inexpensive electric start LP gas generator ($650) and used
> one of these:
>
>
> http://www.packetflux.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=9&products_id=55
>
> We've got a 24v charger plugged into the generator and attached to the
> battery array.   We've got the controller set to auto start the generator
> if the batteries dip to a set voltage, and run for a pre-set amount of time
> and then shut off.   We are about $1,000 into the whole setup.  (Doesn't
> include the battery charger, that was already at the site)
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 25, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:
>
>> So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
>> plus a $300 mount.
>>
>>
>> It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
>> Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Clay Stewart]

Price of propane would make a difference in decision. It varies here from
2.99 to 3.35 a gal. So $3,300+ per fill up is a lot, so what are you paying
for LP there?
On Nov 26, 2013 1:56 PM, "D. Ryan Spott"  wrote:

> 50W DC is what I get out of mine. I fill the propane tank with ~1100
> gallons every 2-4 years.
>
> I have a pic attached showing the simple power schematic The model is a
> 2T5 50W. The 40W is sitting standby.
>
> ryan
>
> On 11/26/13 10:33 AM, Robert wrote:
>
>> How often is the tank refilled for what power load?
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/26/2013 10:26 AM, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
>>
>>> *Someone* lives in Florida and does not need a Snowcat or Snowmachine to
>>> get to his sites...
>>>
>>> Sometimes paying a little extra for always on and always working is a
>>> good thing. The maintenance on the TEG I have running is:
>>> light
>>> let run for 1-5 years
>>> clean jets
>>> relight
>>> repeat.
>>>
>>> No moving parts and always working is a bonus. :)
>>>
>>> ryan
>>>
>>> On 11/26/13 9:25 AM, Scott Carullo wrote:
>>>
 Remember, I can buy 4 7Kw gensets instead of the one tiny TEG :)

 Scott Carullo
 Technical Operations
 855-FLSPEED x102



 
 
 *From*: "D. Ryan Spott" 
 *Sent*: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 12:15 AM
 *To*: "WISPA General List" 
 *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

 Who was this from?

 Remember there is ZERO maintenance on a TEG.

 ryan

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> So i heard back on pricing today for the 100 watt propane TEG. $7960
> plus a $300 mount.
>
>
> It's a cool idea but a Generac 7kw propane genset for $1900 with free
> Amazon Prime shipping seems to be a better deal...
>
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Re: [WISPA] Best way to attach to a steel, pre-fab, building?

[Clay Stewart]

We have drilled holes for 1/2" carriage bolts through skin and frame angle
steel which is used to mount 1' standoffs to hold a 2" x 10' gal. sch 40
pole. In a case where we mounted several radios, we added another 10' pole
which was embedded into the ground to take off weight. We then mounted (2)
1/2" double clamps which allow us to install a drop down pole, getting up
another 10', but making it fairly easily to drop to roof line for repairs.


On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 4:49 PM, Mike Lyon  wrote:

> What is the bast way to attach a mount for a rocket dish to a steel,
> pre-fab, building? Simple mount and just lag bolts into the steel or is
> there another trick?
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [WISPA] TEGs / Thermo Electric Generators

[Clay Stewart]

Sounds like fun, and thank you for your service! Got pics?


On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Sam  wrote:

> I was in the military, stationed in Fairbanks (30 miles south of
> Fairbanks actually) for four years. There was a spell during the winter
> of 1988/1989 where we went something like six weeks with the temperature
> never climbing above -40F. (Fun fact: Five of the top ten lowest
> temperatures ever recorded in Alaska happened in January 1989.) We lived
> on-base so didn't have to deal with propane or LP gas. But I don't
> recall any of my friends living off-base having a problem with it.
> That's not to say it didn't happen.
>
> A side note...
> I remember one day after that spell of cold weather when a Chinook wind
> blew up from the Gulf of Alaska. The temperature warmed clear up to 0F!
> We were all outside in shorts and short sleeve shirts firing up the BBQ
> grills. Yeah, it was cold, but it was 50F to 60F degrees warmer than
> what we had gotten used to. :)
>
> Sam
>
>
> On 11/26/2013 15:06, D. Ryan Spott wrote:
> > Even north of fairbanks Propane does not have much of an issue. Insulate
> > and enclose for success.
> >
> > I use a 1500 gal tank so I can get the 1000+ gal discount. They even
> > apply this discount to my home propane purchases for the rest of the
> year!
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would say
Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did you
upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.

If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field trip, you
can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you are bridged
backed to your office... where you have a latop with 192.168.1.x in its
NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn on the management
port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN port. Be sure to
tell customer never to do that on there own of course, since it can put a
rouge DHCP on your network.







On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  I have 1 AirRouter that I can't get into the Manage Node, I seem to be
> doing the wrong thing.
> I do not have the same problem with other AirRouter, Bullets, Nanobridge,
> or other devices.
> Help.
> Thanx
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Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

That would have been it, Block Management access. If it is unchecked, then
it is something else.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  I have the unit on my desk.
>
> Version 5.5.6
>
> Where do I find Remote Management, all I find is block Management access.
> It is NOT checked to enable.
>
> NGL
>
>
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:50 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>
> Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would say
> Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did you
> upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
> after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
> it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.
>
> If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field trip,
> you can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you are
> bridged backed to your office... where you have a latop with 192.168.1.x in
> its NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn on the management
> port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN port. Be sure to
> tell customer never to do that on there own of course, since it can put a
> rouge DHCP on your network.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  I have 1 AirRouter that I can't get into the Manage Node, I seem to be
>> doing the wrong thing.
>> I do not have the same problem with other AirRouter, Bullets, Nanobridge,
>> or other devices.
>> Help.
>> Thanx
>> NGL
>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>
>> ___
>> Wireless mailing list
>> Wireless@wispa.org
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>>
>
>
> --
>
>
> --
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>   CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc.,
>   DBA Stewart Computer Services
>   434.263.6363 O
>   434.942.6510 C
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Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

So, it fails to connect via WAN even on your desk?


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> That would have been it, Block Management access. If it is unchecked, then
> it is something else.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  I have the unit on my desk.
>>
>> Version 5.5.6
>>
>> Where do I find Remote Management, all I find is block Management access.
>> It is NOT checked to enable.
>>
>> NGL
>>
>>
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:50 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>
>> Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would say
>> Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did you
>> upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
>> after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
>> it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.
>>
>> If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field trip,
>> you can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you are
>> bridged backed to your office... where you have a latop with 192.168.1.x in
>> its NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn on the management
>> port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN port. Be sure to
>> tell customer never to do that on there own of course, since it can put a
>> rouge DHCP on your network.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>  I have 1 AirRouter that I can't get into the Manage Node, I seem to be
>>> doing the wrong thing.
>>> I do not have the same problem with other AirRouter, Bullets,
>>> Nanobridge, or other devices.
>>> Help.
>>> Thanx
>>> NGL
>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>
>>> ___
>>> Wireless mailing list
>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> --
>> SCS
>>   Clay Stewart
>>   CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc.,
>>   DBA Stewart Computer Services
>>   434.263.6363 O
>>   434.942.6510 C
>>   cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
>> “We Keep You Up and Running”
>>Wireless Broadband
>>Programming
>>   Network Services
>>
>> --
>>
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>> Wireless@wispa.org
>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>>
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>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>
>>
>
>
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>
>
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>   CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc.,
>   DBA Stewart Computer Services
>   434.263.6363 O
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> “We Keep You Up and Running”
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Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

Also check MAC in AC to see if there was a previous unit on that IP, in
which case the new one will not be added because of the dup ip, and the old
one will always be off!


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:36 PM, Josh Luthman
wrote:

> Delete it and readd
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 18, 2013 12:25 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>
>>  No it works fine in wan and lan.
>> I cannot get it to connect in AirControl I just get the black dot, not
>> green or red.
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:20 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>
>> So, it fails to connect via WAN even on your desk?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Clay Stewart <
>> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That would have been it, Block Management access. If it is unchecked,
>>> then it is something else.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I have the unit on my desk.
>>>>
>>>> Version 5.5.6
>>>>
>>>> Where do I find Remote Management, all I find is block Management
>>>> access.
>>>> It is NOT checked to enable.
>>>>
>>>> NGL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:50 PM
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>>
>>>> Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would say
>>>> Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did you
>>>> upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
>>>> after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
>>>> it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.
>>>>
>>>> If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field trip,
>>>> you can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you are
>>>> bridged backed to your office... where you have a latop with 192.168.1.x in
>>>> its NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn on the management
>>>> port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN port. Be sure to
>>>> tell customer never to do that on there own of course, since it can put a
>>>> rouge DHCP on your network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I have 1 AirRouter that I can't get into the Manage Node, I seem to
>>>>> be doing the wrong thing.
>>>>> I do not have the same problem with other AirRouter, Bullets,
>>>>> Nanobridge, or other devices.
>>>>> Help.
>>>>> Thanx
>>>>> NGL
>>>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
>>>>> Wireless mailing list
>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> SCS
>>>>   Clay Stewart
>>>>   CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc.,
>>>>   DBA Stewart Computer Services
>>>>   434.263.6363 O
>>>>   434.942.6510 C
>>>>   cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
>>>> “We Keep You Up and Running”
>>>>Wireless Broadband
>>>>Programming
>>>>   Network Services
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
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>>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>&g

Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

Does it have a failed message after provisioning message, and if so what
does it say?


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>   <http://localhost:9080/main.seam?cid=353763#> Same problem
> When I try to connect this what I get in the black box at the bottom.
>   172.16.0.21-Provisioning schedule
> NGL
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>
>  *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:36 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>
> Delete it and readd
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Dec 18, 2013 12:25 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>
>>  No it works fine in wan and lan.
>> I cannot get it to connect in AirControl I just get the black dot, not
>> green or red.
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:20 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>
>> So, it fails to connect via WAN even on your desk?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Clay Stewart <
>> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>
>>> That would have been it, Block Management access. If it is unchecked,
>>> then it is something else.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  I have the unit on my desk.
>>>>
>>>> Version 5.5.6
>>>>
>>>> Where do I find Remote Management, all I find is block Management
>>>> access.
>>>> It is NOT checked to enable.
>>>>
>>>> NGL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:50 PM
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>>
>>>> Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would say
>>>> Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did you
>>>> upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
>>>> after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
>>>> it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.
>>>>
>>>> If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field trip,
>>>> you can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you are
>>>> bridged backed to your office... where you have a latop with 192.168.1.x in
>>>> its NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn on the management
>>>> port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN port. Be sure to
>>>> tell customer never to do that on there own of course, since it can put a
>>>> rouge DHCP on your network.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I have 1 AirRouter that I can't get into the Manage Node, I seem to
>>>>> be doing the wrong thing.
>>>>> I do not have the same problem with other AirRouter, Bullets,
>>>>> Nanobridge, or other devices.
>>>>> Help.
>>>>> Thanx
>>>>> NGL
>>>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
>>>>> Wireless mailing list
>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> SCS
>>>>   Clay Stewart
>>>>   CEO, Tye River Farms, Inc.,
>>>>   DBA Stewart Computer Services
>>>>   434.263.6363 O
>>>>   434.942.6510 C
>>>>   cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com
>>>> “We Keep You Up and Running”
>>>>Wireless Broadband
>>>>Programming
>>>>   Network Services
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> ___
>>>> Wireless mailing list
>>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 

Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

Try to down grade radio version, to upgrade it again to see if there is an
software issue.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  No failed message
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:13 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>
> Does it have a failed message after provisioning message, and if so what
> does it say?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>   <http://localhost:9080/main.seam?cid=353763#> Same problem
>> When I try to connect this what I get in the black box at the bottom.
>>   172.16.0.21-Provisioning schedule
>> NGL
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>>
>>  *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:36 AM
>>  *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>
>> Delete it and readd
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Dec 18, 2013 12:25 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>>
>>>  No it works fine in wan and lan.
>>> I cannot get it to connect in AirControl I just get the black dot, not
>>> green or red.
>>> NGL
>>>
>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:20 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>
>>> So, it fails to connect via WAN even on your desk?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Clay Stewart <
>>> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That would have been it, Block Management access. If it is unchecked,
>>>> then it is something else.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I have the unit on my desk.
>>>>>
>>>>> Version 5.5.6
>>>>>
>>>>> Where do I find Remote Management, all I find is block Management
>>>>> access.
>>>>> It is NOT checked to enable.
>>>>>
>>>>> NGL
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:50 PM
>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>>>
>>>>> Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would say
>>>>> Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did you
>>>>> upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
>>>>> after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
>>>>> it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.
>>>>>
>>>>> If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field
>>>>> trip, you can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you
>>>>> are bridged backed to your office... where you have a latop with
>>>>> 192.168.1.x in its NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn on
>>>>> the management port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN
>>>>> port. Be sure to tell customer never to do that on there own of course,
>>>>> since it can put a rouge DHCP on your network.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have 1 AirRouter that I can't get into the Manage Node, I seem to
>>>>>> be doing the wrong thing.
>>>>>> I do not have the same problem with other AirRouter, Bullets,
>>>>>> Nanobridge, or other devices.
>>>>>> Help.
>>>>>> Thanx
>>>>>> NGL
>>>>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>>>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ___
>>>>>> Wireless mailing list
>>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>

Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem

[Clay Stewart]

That's the steps I would have done... I bet something happened in the OS
install.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 3:44 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  It now works!
> I deleted it from AirControl.
> Defaulted Airouter
> Rebooted Airouter and computer.
> Installed Backup Configuration File
> It then worked.
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:26 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>
> Try to down grade radio version, to upgrade it again to see if there is an
> software issue.
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:18 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  No failed message
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 10:13 AM
>>  *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>
>> Does it have a failed message after provisioning message, and if so what
>> does it say?
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>   <http://localhost:9080/main.seam?cid=353763#> Same problem
>>> When I try to connect this what I get in the black box at the bottom.
>>>   172.16.0.21-Provisioning schedule
>>> NGL
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>>>
>>>  *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:36 AM
>>>  *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>
>>> Delete it and readd
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>> On Dec 18, 2013 12:25 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  No it works fine in wan and lan.
>>>> I cannot get it to connect in AirControl I just get the black dot, not
>>>> green or red.
>>>> NGL
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 18, 2013 9:20 AM
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>>
>>>> So, it fails to connect via WAN even on your desk?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Clay Stewart <
>>>> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That would have been it, Block Management access. If it is unchecked,
>>>>> then it is something else.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 12:05 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I have the unit on my desk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Version 5.5.6
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where do I find Remote Management, all I find is block Management
>>>>>> access.
>>>>>> It is NOT checked to enable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> NGL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 17, 2013 6:50 PM
>>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Air Control Problem
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Try to use putty to ssh into router... if you cannot, then I would
>>>>>> say Remote Management is checked. What version OS are you running. Did 
>>>>>> you
>>>>>> upgrade recently? There was an issue of remote management being turned on
>>>>>> after an upgrade to a particular version. (will have to look up which one
>>>>>> it was... but 5.5.4 through .6 does not do this now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If it is turned on (remote management) to keep from doing a field
>>>>>> trip, you can ask customer to plug the wan cable into the lan port if you
>>>>>> are bridged backed to your office... where you have a latop with
>>>>>> 192.168.1.x in its NIC. then you can get to 192.168.1.1 to quickly turn 
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> the management port. then quickly have customer put CAT5 back into WAN
>>>>>> port. Be sure to tell customer never to do that on there own of course,
>>>>>> since it can put a rouge DHCP on your network.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 8:49 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I have

Re: [WISPA] Allot equipment

[Clay Stewart]

Agree Sean, if fiber connection is issue, buy more fiber, better spent
money... solve other usage issue inside net, rather if it is routing,
bandwidth management or bottle necked APs.


On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 7:10 PM, Sean Heskett  wrote:

> is the bottle neck on your network the fiber connection out to the
> Internet or at your APs?
>
> for us the APs are the biggest bottleneck and the fiber internet
> connection (GigE) has plenty of bandwidth.
>
> so in our case a cache server wouldn't do much except chew a hole in my
> wallet.  If your connection out to the internet is your bottleneck then it
> may help some but I wouldn't expect it to help more than 10%.
>
> 2 cents
>
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Tyson Shreeves  wrote:
>
>> We have been looking at a setup from Allot networks.  The setup is called
>> a net enforcer, netxplorer, and a SMP server.  Its a bandwidth management
>> solution, but what interested me the most was the ability to cache videos
>> and prioritize different web traffic to optimize streaming movies.  Any
>> experiences with this equipment or information would be greatly appreciated
>> from another wisp.
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Looking for a Traveling WISP

[Clay Stewart]

I had partnered with a company called TourTech here for a large, outdoor
rock concert this last summer... all they do is events... very
professional, highly recommended. They had a portable COW attached to a
truck that served as an operations center... pretty cool for a WISP!

I have included Bunky in on this email if you two want to talk it out!


On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 10:50 PM, Ian Framson wrote:

> Hi Wisps,
>
> I hope everyone is doing well and looking forward to the holidays.
>
> I have a unique need, here goes:
>
> I am looking for a Wisp without a "local market" - someone who is willing
> to travel and negotiate/setup temporary wireless shots for us all over the
> U.S. As background, my company provides IT consulting services for events,
> including bandwidth procurement, temporary circuits, WiFi, and IT labor.
>
> Anyone come to mind you can recommend?
>
> Many thanks,
>
>
> Ian Framson
> Co-founder
>
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Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm

[Clay Stewart]

Do you think this would have happened on a sorter shot? I am about to
deploy two sets of AF24s at 1/2 mile and 1 mile?

I was going to use Watch Dog to bring up a backup 5G link using a Digital
Logger, so that the 5G radio can be off all the time until needed for
safety (surge/lightning). What do you think?


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 10:01 AM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  This is where a solution like performant really shines
>
>
>
> Gino A. Villarini
>
> g...@aeronetpr.com
>
> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>
> 787.273.4143
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> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Saturday, December 21, 2013 10:55 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AF and rain storm
>
>
>
> What OSPF settings do you use to facilitate such a quick fail over to tik
> backups? Also, this wouldn't switch over until the link completely died so
> do you do anything special to have OSPF handle this or do you have to wait
> for it to die? I can just see the link getting bad enough that it will send
> the smallest amount of data but not drop thus limiting the capacity to even
> less than a backup link in place.
>
> I remember chuck talking about something in the forums about dropping
> ethernet past a certain signal threshold or when RF link drops.
>
> On Dec 21, 2013 12:04 AM, "Jim Patient"  wrote:
>
> Just thought I would share some real world stuff.  Don’t get me wrong this
> is in no way dissing this AF link.  It has worked geat and I fully
> expect it to drop off in a hard down poor like this. That’s why we have 2
> 5GHz MT links to fall back on.  I just thought it was cool to see
> everything working like it should.
>
>
>
> This happened tonight.  You can see our TP weather station rainfall graph.
> The weather station is just down the hill from pinoak tower (no longer a
> real pinoak).  The AF link drops off, the MT 5GHz link ramping up as the AF
> link drops and throughput on the drain pipe stays stable while all this was
> happening and no lost packets.
>
>
>
> There is also link path so you can see distance and actual signal of the
> link right now with just basically mist.
>
>
>
> You can almost graph the rainfall rate by the throughput on the MT backup
> link J
>
>
>
> Thx,
>
>
>
> Jim Patient
>
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Re: [WISPA] Ethernet over power lines (not the failed power company BPL trials)

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of a set they tried that “just
> worked”
>
>
>
> In most of my applications, the AES security does not matter- remember the
> core system is an open WiFi network anyway.  I would rather users be able
> to use a simple, easy to obtain unit. With the newer paired units having
> that preset, it may knock out some flexibility. These may be what the
> person referenced above may have had.
>
>
>
> What I really want to see a manufacturer come out with is a manageable
> unit we can put as the “base”.  Similar to  a WiFi AP, we could do
> authorizing (similar to MAC authentication or like DOCSIS cable modems are
> remotely activated with the CMTS) of remote devices on the same line.
> Customer plugs in, calls up, gives address of  his unit and we authorize
> it. If they don’t pay, they get shut off.
>
>
>
> Of course we could stock and ship units that were preset with our AES
> code, but it would be a nightmare keeping all that straight as well as an
> investment in equipment we wouldn’t want to make.
>
>
>
> As I said, there is lots of potential in Home Plug AV  right now, and even
> more if the equipment becomes a little more flexible.  I’m just putting the
> ideas out there.
>
>
>
> Anyone else using them or planning to use them in novel ways.
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Packages regarding geography

[Clay Stewart]

Put a lot of thought into this topic as many have I am sure.  I ended up
with set plans for everyone across the board and like Matt says, if they
cannot get it, we do not sell it. But, I have been thinking of changing our
marketing to be different with this issue in mind... the issue of diversity
of delivery technologies and environments within our network.

We have always marketed four home plans with specified U/D and softcap data
amounts. Such as todays plans:

Plan 1: 1/.5Mbps

Plan 2: 3/1Mbps

Plan 3: 4/1.5Mbps

Plan 4: 6/2Mbps

I have been thinking that we will market either "Up To" or a specific range
like:

Plan 1: 1-1.5Mbps

Plan 2: 2-3Mbps

Plan 3: 3-4Mbps

Plan 4: 4-6Mbps

In this way, for a customer that tests at 2.5Mbps, they can be sold Plan 2
just like a person in another area could be sold Plan 2 when they test at 3
or more Mbps. The thought is it could solve some issues in marketing and
support in that the customer is made aware of that the plan can vary in
speed possibly due to network load, weather, or availability.

Since our 2014 goal is to have these four home plans at 2, 4, 6 and 8Mbps
respectfully (due to fiber upgrades and Gig PtPs), the ranges will be easy
to articulate... such as Plan 2 is 2-4Mbps, Plan 2 is 4-6Mbps.

Upload speeds would remain static since the smaller ratio is achievable for
given download speed 99% of the time.

I would also not apply this to business plans, and keep them static with a
'we can or we can not' marketing and sells policy.



On Dec 30, 2013 9:35 PM, "Matt Hoppes"  wrote:

> What we have done is offer the same packages across the board. If you
> can't get at least the package you want we don't install you.
>
> On Dec 30, 2013, at 21:11, "heith petersen"  wrote:
>
>  We are getting to the point in a lot of our markets that we need to
> offer different speed packages. Issue being some markets, being 900 or
> slightly sub-par infrastructure, we wouldn’t be able to promote these
> packages across the board. Was curious if others are offering packages to
> different areas that would not be possible in some? And if so, do you get
> any backlash from those who cannot get those packages? Is it appropriate to
> offer extended packages to users on one tower when another tower down the
> road wouldn’t be capable of these packages? Its bad but we just offer a
> residential rate, no matter if that customer can get 1 meg down via Canopy
> 900 or close to 10 meg on a UBNT SM. I have caught a little heat in an area
> where we fired up 900 about 4 years ago to a market that had only
> satellite. Then we hooked up a tower in a small town 4 miles away with UBNT
> M2 and news spread like wild fire. We went from 40 900 subs to about a
> dozen, and a pile of radios I don’t want to deploy again.  Shame on me for
> not offering the extended packages at that time for those wanting more
> bandwidth.
>
> I also have the area outside my home town that Century Link offers what
> they claim is 12 meg service, but it never gets close. I am constantly
> adding more sectors in these areas, Im getting to the point where I am
> adding UBNT to offload Canopy, then adding more UBNT to offload the UBNT
> that was offloading the Canopy, it gets to be a vicious circle. I am
> already $20 per month more than CL, not sure if a lot of customers would
> stay if I were to charge them more for what they are getting now. Once
> again shame on me. The bosses think the prices should be the same across
> the board, but technically performances cannot be matched across the board,
> plus Im running ragged satisfying existing customers when I should be
> looking at new areas, and start the vicious circle all over again LOL.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Internet Packages regarding geography

[Clay Stewart]

Customer are always going to beat on you for more... regardless of what you
give them... after all, all they see on TV is ads and news reports of
50Mbps to Gigabit services in the cities.

The idea is simple, noone can guarentee every single customer that thier
Plan 3 at 4Mbps is going to be exact everytime they run a speed test, but
that is what they are told when they bought the plan, from website
information to pamphlet to salesperson... Plan 3 is xMbps. So why not sell
the product as it really is Plan 3 is 3-4Mbps? If they do not want to
pay for Plan 3 when it is only 3.4Mbps, then they can go to Plan 2,
2-3Mbps... where they will get 3Mbps. We will even throw in that we add
bursting which means it may be a little faster at times of low network
usage.


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 10:19 AM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   I assume the same would apply if you introduce new plans to existing
> customers as well? I assume customers that cannot get that service will
> beat on you to make some sort of change to get it to them, like a closer
> site.
>
>  *From:* Matt Hoppes 
> *Sent:* Monday, December 30, 2013 8:34 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Cc:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Internet Packages regarding geography
>
>  What we have done is offer the same packages across the board. If you
> can't get at least the package you want we don't install you.
>
> On Dec 30, 2013, at 21:11, "heith petersen"  wrote:
>
>   We are getting to the point in a lot of our markets that we need to
> offer different speed packages. Issue being some markets, being 900 or
> slightly sub-par infrastructure, we wouldn’t be able to promote these
> packages across the board. Was curious if others are offering packages to
> different areas that would not be possible in some? And if so, do you get
> any backlash from those who cannot get those packages? Is it appropriate to
> offer extended packages to users on one tower when another tower down the
> road wouldn’t be capable of these packages? Its bad but we just offer a
> residential rate, no matter if that customer can get 1 meg down via Canopy
> 900 or close to 10 meg on a UBNT SM. I have caught a little heat in an area
> where we fired up 900 about 4 years ago to a market that had only
> satellite. Then we hooked up a tower in a small town 4 miles away with UBNT
> M2 and news spread like wild fire. We went from 40 900 subs to about a
> dozen, and a pile of radios I don’t want to deploy again.  Shame on me for
> not offering the extended packages at that time for those wanting more
> bandwidth.
>
> I also have the area outside my home town that Century Link offers what
> they claim is 12 meg service, but it never gets close. I am constantly
> adding more sectors in these areas, Im getting to the point where I am
> adding UBNT to offload Canopy, then adding more UBNT to offload the UBNT
> that was offloading the Canopy, it gets to be a vicious circle. I am
> already $20 per month more than CL, not sure if a lot of customers would
> stay if I were to charge them more for what they are getting now. Once
> again shame on me. The bosses think the prices should be the same across
> the board, but technically performances cannot be matched across the board,
> plus Im running ragged satisfying existing customers when I should be
> looking at new areas, and start the vicious circle all over again LOL.
>
> thanks
> heith
>
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Re: [WISPA] 5.8GHz all frequencies bad?

[Clay Stewart]

Not sure about 5.8 but here 900 is used by local Electric company where
their radio can jump frequencies automatically.  Luckily it is one channel
wide
On Jan 4, 2014 2:21 PM, "Adam Greene"  wrote:

> Hi,
>
>
>
> We have a small Alvarion VL 5.8GHz cell with two links of less than a
> mile. Generally they are beautiful. However, since Dec 23, we are getting
> lots of packet loss and high latency on almost all frequencies.
>
>
>
> Every day we have to go through all the available frequencies in order to
> find one which is tolerable. Usually there is only one frequency from
> 5740-5830MHz which is usable, and every day it changes, sometimes multiple
> times during the day.
>
>
>
> We have rebooted the AU to no avail and upgraded all devices to recent
> firmware (6.5.7), all to no avail.
>
>
>
> What do you think is happening? Perhaps someone turned up a device in the
> area which is jamming most of 5.8GHz? But then why would the frequencies
> shift every so often? I wonder if there is a particular wireless
> manufacturer whose gear behaves like that.
>
>
>
> Perhaps there is water in the connector of the AU? But then why do the
> frequencies seem to shift around like this?
>
>
>
> Any ideas welcome. The site is about 2 hours away so we're trying to avoid
> a truck roll, otherwise would just swap gear / check weatherizing, etc.
> Maybe there's no avoiding it though.
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Antenna Array Suggestions

[Clay Stewart]

I would place the smaller Rocket M5 UBNT Titanium sectors, along with
Rocket M2 Titanium sectors. As for your issue with the UBNT 900 I would
need more detail... stats such as signal/NF/CCQ etc... would be good. That
is an unshielded 900 and can be taken down or hurt fairly easily. Shielding
on the 900 is almost a must. There are also other possible solutions for
reducing windload for that 900 as well.


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>
>
> I was looking for a suggestion on 3 120 degree panels for the tower in the
> picture. I have a connectorized Canopy 2.4 Omni on top at 60 foot, and its
> overloaded, in my opinion, with 73 subs. I am debating on throwing on a
> UBNT
> M5 panel in higher concentration area of current subs, however they are on
> the other side of the river and an average of 5 to 6 miles away. I don’t
> think I can get away cleanly with doing M5 sectors all the way around as
> some customers are 15 miles from this point with LOS issues. This tower
> sits
> a half mile from the river on the bluffs. So I am thinking of possible
> doing
> 3 connectorized Canopy APs. My question in doing this is looking for an
> antenna that I wont kill my self with self interference since I have just a
> little tower space to deal with. Using Canopy I would incorporate a smaller
> timing apparatus. The only other places that we are doing 120 degree
> sectors
> in 2.4 are with UBNT M2 on old school water towers around the tank. Most
> every where else is Canopy Omnis, and I am getting hammered by everyone
> streaming video nowadays. Being in flat country with huge buttes initially
> gave us lots of options, but now they just kick my butt. Maybe I need to
> look at something different altogether. I would hate to have a huge stock
> pile of Canopy 2.4 radios sitting around, I have tons of 5.7 & 900
> collecting dust in the shop.
>
> The other antenna on this picture is a UBNT M900 AP, and with 5 subs on it
> and is not working as expected, I will likely yank it down and switch those
> few customers back to 2.4. The Canopy BH is a backup link to another tower
> down river. We are using a Nano Bridge M5 as the main feed for this tower
> and it has way more bandwidth capability than the tower is currently
> putting
> out.
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: Antenna Array Suggestions

[Clay Stewart]

On the UBNT900 sector, we would get 7-12Mbps within 5 miles, 4-8 withiin 8
miles using 8 to 10 CW.

The RFArmor shields for the 900 work very well, although add a lot of
windload. I am going to try some radio shielding fabric to one or two this
month too see how well that works, have one WISPer claiming that it is a
winner of an approach.

I also use Intellite MIMO 900 ant boxed for 900 rockets which is low
profile and work really well for 2-3 miles. They also make a small sector,
about a third the size of the UBNT sector which also works well with
rockets... getting good speeds and signals so far out to 5 miles.

I have a complete set of  2 TI M2s, 2 TI M5s, 2 RM900 Intelite sectors
going up this week at 120' which from previous experience I believe is
going to be a winner set up. One level will be 2 M2 TIs and 1 Intelite 900
sector and the second level will be 2 TI M5s and 1 Intelite 900 sector.
Couple 3' RDM5s also will reside on tower. This is a monopole, but could do
same on ROHN.


On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 10:38 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   On the 900 more or less just bandwidth throughput to a few customers,
> more or less wanting more than I can give. This antenna is the stocker UBNT
> panel. I never thought about someone like KP Performance. Is that what
> you’d suggest?  These customers, obviously, were on my 2.4 before and can
> easily go back, providing I get them the bandwidth. This one was more or
> less a test for an area I have never tried 900 before.
>
> On the Titanium sectors, I hear a lot of mixed emotions about them. I
> installed one at a location we are testing and its not working out well,
> however I believe its jammed in a highly intense 2.4 area as it is.
>
> You think the Canopy and UBNT 2.4 can co exist together until equipment is
> swapped out? I have a buddy that installed 1 ubnt sector right below a
> canopy omni as a test and has been running for close to 3 years. One of
> those projects that never got finished
>
> heith
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Monday, January 06, 2014 9:13 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Fw: Antenna Array Suggestions
>
>  I would place the smaller Rocket M5 UBNT Titanium sectors, along with
> Rocket M2 Titanium sectors. As for your issue with the UBNT 900 I would
> need more detail... stats such as signal/NF/CCQ etc... would be good. That
> is an unshielded 900 and can be taken down or hurt fairly easily. Shielding
> on the 900 is almost a must. There are also other possible solutions for
> reducing windload for that 900 as well.
>
>
> On Mon, Jan 6, 2014 at 9:08 PM, heith petersen  wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> I was looking for a suggestion on 3 120 degree panels for the tower in the
>> picture. I have a connectorized Canopy 2.4 Omni on top at 60 foot, and its
>> overloaded, in my opinion, with 73 subs. I am debating on throwing on a
>> UBNT
>> M5 panel in higher concentration area of current subs, however they are on
>> the other side of the river and an average of 5 to 6 miles away. I don’t
>> think I can get away cleanly with doing M5 sectors all the way around as
>> some customers are 15 miles from this point with LOS issues. This tower
>> sits
>> a half mile from the river on the bluffs. So I am thinking of possible
>> doing
>> 3 connectorized Canopy APs. My question in doing this is looking for an
>> antenna that I wont kill my self with self interference since I have just
>> a
>> little tower space to deal with. Using Canopy I would incorporate a
>> smaller
>> timing apparatus. The only other places that we are doing 120 degree
>> sectors
>> in 2.4 are with UBNT M2 on old school water towers around the tank. Most
>> every where else is Canopy Omnis, and I am getting hammered by everyone
>> streaming video nowadays. Being in flat country with huge buttes initially
>> gave us lots of options, but now they just kick my butt. Maybe I need to
>> look at something different altogether. I would hate to have a huge stock
>> pile of Canopy 2.4 radios sitting around, I have tons of 5.7 & 900
>> collecting dust in the shop.
>>
>> The other antenna on this picture is a UBNT M900 AP, and with 5 subs on it
>> and is not working as expected, I will likely yank it down and switch
>> those
>> few customers back to 2.4. The Canopy BH is a backup link to another tower
>> down river. We are using a Nano Bridge M5 as the main feed for this tower
>> and it has way more bandwidth capability than the tower is currently
>> putting
>> out.
>>
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>> heith
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Re: [WISPA] Google aquires Nest...

[Clay Stewart]

Mine has been working great so far... just waiting for another month or two
to see if it is saving money as expected. A friend of mine who owns many
rentals and a manufacture home business had placed them in all his offices
and homes and altogether he says is saving him hundreds a month. Just the
fact it recognizes when know one is there and turns down to 63 degrees has
got to make a big difference then the fixed schedule the old one was using.

Google acquisition is just one more step to their merger with the NSA. Now
they know when my heat is on, and soon they will know when I go to bed.


On Mon, Jan 13, 2014 at 6:09 PM, Matt Hoppes wrote:

> Good. Maybe they will finally work properly.
>
> On Jan 13, 2014, at 17:40, Robert Andrews 
> wrote:
>
> > After the nest thread last week...So now make SURE your nest's are
> > outside your inner firewall...
> >
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper

[Clay Stewart]

Shaper meaning speed limiting, not data amount limiting (Capping)?

For speed we use built-in UBNT CPE limiting with MT backup limiting.


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:

> Mikrotik?
>
>
>
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> *From: *"Troy Slagle" 
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:53:40 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper
>
>
> I am in the process of looking for a new Bandwidth Shaper, does anybody
> have any recommendations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Troy A. Slagle
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Mid-States Services, LLC
>
> 4100 Oklahoma Ave., Trenton, MO 64683
>
> 660-359-3941 - 1-800-279-2249 x 48
>
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Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper

[Clay Stewart]

Mikrotik then...


On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Troy Slagle  wrote:

> Just speed limiting, not concerned about data capping.  We have some older
> equipment that we does not have CPE limiting so we need an appliance to
> handle the bandwidth control per IP.
>
>
>
> Troy A. Slagle
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Mid-States Services, LLC.
>
> 4100 Oklahoma Ave., Trenton, MO 64683
>
> 660-359-3941 - 1-800-279-2249 x 48
>
> tsla...@grundyec.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Clay Stewart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 15, 2014 2:10 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper
>
>
>
> Shaper meaning speed limiting, not data amount limiting (Capping)?
>
>
>
> For speed we use built-in UBNT CPE limiting with MT backup limiting.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
> Mikrotik?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Troy Slagle" 
> *To: *wireless@wispa.org
> *Sent: *Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:53:40 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] Bandwidth Shaper
>
>
>
> I am in the process of looking for a new Bandwidth Shaper, does anybody
> have any recommendations?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Troy A. Slagle
>
> Information Technology Manager
>
> Mid-States Services, LLC
>
> 4100 Oklahoma Ave., Trenton, MO 64683
>
> 660-359-3941 - 1-800-279-2249 x 48
>
> tsla...@grundyec.com
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Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this

[Clay Stewart]

I would assume using NTP servers that do not use Monlist which are??


On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:

>
> What was the solution?
>
>
> - Original Message -
> *From:* Joe Miller 
> *To:* 'WISPA General List' 
> *Sent:* Friday, January 17, 2014 9:24 AM
> *Subject:* [WISPA] be on the look out for this
>
>  We had a network outage yesterday afternoon, and thanks to Mike Francis
> at JMF Solutions the problem went away. So, anyone who needs network help…I
> would strongly recommend Mike Francis at JMF Solutions.
>
>
>
> Kudos to Mike Francis.
>
>
>
> http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573
>
>
>
> Joe Miller
>
> www.dslbyair.com
>
> 228-831-8881
>
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Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this

[Clay Stewart]

Phil, it is a script which obtains IPs from NTP monitored data list. It is
easily hackable.

See http://nmap.org/nsedoc/scripts/ntp-monlist.html



On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:53 AM, Phil Curnutt  wrote:

> NPT servers that use Monlist?  What's that about?
>
> Phil
>
>
> On Friday, January 17, 2014, Clay Stewart <
> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
> > I would assume using NTP servers that do not use Monlist which are??
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 11:07 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller <
> par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> What was the solution?
> >>
> >>
> >> - Original Message -
> >> From: Joe Miller
> >> To: 'WISPA General List'
> >> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 9:24 AM
> >> Subject: [WISPA] be on the look out for this
> >>
> >> We had a network outage yesterday afternoon, and thanks to Mike Francis
> at JMF Solutions the problem went away. So, anyone who needs network help…I
> would strongly recommend Mike Francis at JMF Solutions.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Kudos to Mike Francis.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Joe Miller
> >>
> >> www.dslbyair.com
> >>
> >> 228-831-8881
> >>
> >>
> >>
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Clay Stewart]

I want one... Santa didn't listen! (or maybe I just wasn't good enough last
year)




On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:

>  Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
>
>
>
> http://youtu.be/FwavCd5ffHI
>
>
>
> More to come
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Clay Stewart]

No, seeing isn't the same as climbing them... believe me... it is pretty
incredible... using the right equipment, attitude and training... your
confidence is just the right amount, and the job being accomplished feels
as good as the view.

It is dangerous though, people getting killed more on towers then all other
ladder climbing industries, including construction. In two seconds at 100',
if you do not maintain connections and slip, your dead... 2 seconds from
100' to the top of your truck.

Stay connected, keep equipment perfect, follow all the rules.




On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 10:13 PM, Robert  wrote:

> Yeah, that just convinced me that I will never need that Monopole that
> is for sale...   Sorry...
>
> On 01/17/2014 05:04 PM, Justin Wilson wrote:
> > Very cool!!!  I keep hoping someone will randomly send me one of those.
> > I would take a ton of videos.
> >
> > Monopoles suck.  It needs a safety climb.
> >
> > Justin
> >
> >
> > From: Gino Villarini mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>>
> > Reply-To: WISPA General List  > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> > Date: Friday, January 17, 2014 at 7:52 PM
> > To: "WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org
> > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>)"  > <mailto:wireless@wispa.org>>
> > Subject: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter
> >
> > Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
> >
> >
> >
> > http://youtu.be/FwavCd5ffHI
> >
> >
> >
> > More to come
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gino A. Villarini
> >
> > g...@aeronetpr.com <mailto:g...@aeronetpr.com>
> >
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> >
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Re: [WISPA] be on the look out for this

[Clay Stewart]

It is a lot cheaper then that... here is an old article of the first botnet
herder going public on how it is done, and at $15.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/eliseackerman/2012/05/19/i-run-a-small-botnet-and-sell-stolen-information-ask-me-anything/


On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:39 AM, Gary Garrett  wrote:

>  We got hit by this. Real Bummer.  4,000 connections pounding ports 123
> and 19 on one IP address. 30 meg sustained and 70 - 80 meg peaks.  Took
> down the entire 100 meg fiber due to the massive packets per second.
> It is still ongoing but our upstream had to block it at the edge and is
> still eating the bandwidth. You can not block it yourself so get help right
> away.
>
> Why us?  I think a gamer on our network pissed off some hacker in a chat
> room who had access to a botnet.
> You can rent a botnet for $200 a day if you can prove you are not the FBI.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
> On 1/17/2014 7:24 AM, Joe Miller wrote:
>
>  We had a network outage yesterday afternoon, and thanks to Mike Francis
> at JMF Solutions the problem went away. So, anyone who needs network help…I
> would strongly recommend Mike Francis at JMF Solutions.
>
>
>
> Kudos to Mike Francis.
>
>
>
> http://threatpost.com/us-cert-warns-of-ntp-amplification-attacks/103573
>
>
>
> Joe Miller
>
> www.dslbyair.com
>
> 228-831-8881
>
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Clay Stewart]

Same here. Is it worth spending 1k-1.5k, or will a 500-600 model work for
site survey jobs? What models
On Jan 18, 2014 2:11 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> I've been thinking about getting a <$1k quadcopter. Are you happy with the
> PV2? I'm looking at once to survey rooftops, both the roof itself and from
> the roof. Tis a lot easier to just fly one of those up than wait for
> management to figure out a schedule.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)" 
> *Sent: *Friday, January 17, 2014 6:52:04 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter
>
>  Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
>
>
>
> http://youtu.be/FwavCd5ffHI
>
>
>
> More to come
>
>
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter

[Clay Stewart]

I will be a private citizen who just happens to like flying near towers
On Jan 18, 2014 2:53 PM, "Eric Rogers"  wrote:

> I have heard that you are welcome to fly it as a private citizen, but if
> it is for commercial, you MUST have a pilot's license.  I think it is a
> great idea to do tower inspections/surveys but I think the laws need to
> catch up with the technology.
>
>
>
> Eric Rogers
>
> Precision Data Solutions, LLC
>
> (317) 831-3000 x200
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Clay Stewart
> *Sent:* Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:51 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter
>
>
>
> Same here. Is it worth spending 1k-1.5k, or will a 500-600 model work for
> site survey jobs? What models
>
> On Jan 18, 2014 2:11 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
> I've been thinking about getting a <$1k quadcopter. Are you happy with the
> PV2? I'm looking at once to survey rooftops, both the roof itself and from
> the roof. Tis a lot easier to just fly one of those up than wait for
> management to figure out a schedule.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Gino Villarini" 
> *To: *"WISPA General List (wireless@wispa.org)" 
> *Sent: *Friday, January 17, 2014 6:52:04 PM
> *Subject: *[WISPA] Video of Tower work from Quadcopter
>
> Snip Shot from Phantom Vision 2
>
>
>
> http://youtu.be/FwavCd5ffHI
>
>
>
> More to come
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Clay Stewart]

Toughcable all the way. The greatest products come from people who learn
from big mistakes
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Re: [WISPA] remote employees

[Clay Stewart]

We have used r admin for years one time charge for server software for
computer remote free
On Jan 23, 2014 9:56 AM, "James Howard"  wrote:

> We have a somewhat similar situation.  One of our CSRs moved to Texas
> (actually moved back since was originally from Texas) last year.  We cover
> our after-hours and weekend support through a rotating schedule of all
> employees who want to participate in it (on-call is paid separate from
> “work” pay).  We didn’t keep her as an employee when she moved but wrote a
> contract with her to continue to cover the after-hour shifts that she was
> covering before she moved.  We pay her a set rate per shift whether she
> gets any calls or not (just like we do with our employees who cover any of
> the after-hour shifts).  We give her VPN access to our systems but she has
> to provide her own equipment to connect and her own phone line to call
> customers.   Just make sure that if you make them a “contractor” that they
> actually fit under that definition and it doesn’t come back to bite you
> later on.  Either way (employee vs contractor) you still have no guarantee
> that the person isn’t going to sit and play games all day do you?  Do you
> have that guarantee when he was sitting at your office?  If I was having a
> person answer live calls (we just have her do call backs for after-hours
> support) I would provide a VoIP phone connected to our asterisk PBX though.
>
>
>
>
>
> James Howard
>
> LiteWire Internet Services, Inc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *heith petersen
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 22, 2014 7:27 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] remote employees
>
>
>
> I have a tech who does real light field work, who mostly works at a desk
> in my office. He usually handles the customer BS, like phone tech support
> above what we let our held desk handle, as well as radio configuration and
> updates and support to my field techs. Due to recent personal issues he is
> moving 4 hours away. We figure, since he doesn’t have a job yet and can get
> good high speed service, we might try to do a gig with us remotely. I would
> tunnel him into the net, access to billing, and a VoIP phone to our system,
> basically use him just like I do now, just no physical presence.
>
>
>
> Anyone else doing this or have past experience with this? If so, was it
> positive or total nightmare? We are trying to figure out how to base
> compensation. Right now he is hourly, I can see time tracking could be a
> pain. In reality he could just sit there and play solitaire all day if I
> don’t have any calls for him or any network upgrades.
>
>
>
> Anyways I appreciate your thoughts. I lean on him pretty hard to take care
> of BS that I shouldn’t have to deal with. Without him I see some pretty
> long days ahead. And I cant afford to keep a field tech in the office,
> though I have a guy that would rather sit on ass and talk to customers as
> opposed to doing field work.
>
>
>
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Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box

[Clay Stewart]

We are, and we are trying out the new ones that have a soldered ground
wires for tower radios.
On Jan 28, 2014 1:47 PM, "timothy steele"  wrote:

> I hope bringing the price down on the tough RJ-45's will be a topic from
> UBNT at AF
> —
> Sent from Mailbox  for iPhone
>
>
> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Dan Petermann  wrote:
>
>> We do too
>>  On Jan 28, 2014, at 10:35 AM, Josh Luthman 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Me
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 11:35 AM, timothy steele <
>> timothy.pct...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> How many of you are using the tough RJ-45 ends (UBNT) with your shielded
>>> cable?
>>> —
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>>>
>>>
>>>  On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 10:36 AM, Jeremy wrote:
>>>
 We use Shireen shielded for both towers and installs.


 On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 3:45 PM, Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) <
 o...@odessaoffice.com> wrote:

>   That says gel filled.  the other is a dry “gel”.
>
> marlon
>
>
>  *From:* Kevin Owen 
>  *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:28 AM
>  *To:* WISPA General List 
>  *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
>
>
> Here is the product I ordered after being pointed there by Scott.
>
>
>
>   *Outdoor CAT5e FTP Shielded - Gel Filled - Outer Jacket - 1000ft
> Spool*
>
> DC-1041
>
>
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 10:23 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
>
>
>
> INTERESTING!
>
> I didn't know shireen made a shielded version. That's one reason we've
> only used the d-gel for very certain things. It's not listed on our 
> primary
> vendor's site (streakwave).
>
> Thanks for the find/info!
>
> Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
> :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
>
> On 01/24/2014 08:48 AM, Scott Reed wrote:
>
> You can get it either way, shielded or not.
> Compare them here: https://www.shireeninc.com/osc/cables/cat5e.html
>
>  On 1/24/2014 12:43 PM, Kevin Owen wrote:
>
> Marlon,
>
>
>
> Is the Shireen Dry Gel cable also shielded?  Do you have a
> part/product # for it?
>
>
>  Thanks,
>
> Kevin
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181)
> *Sent:* Friday, January 24, 2014 4:42 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
>
>
>
> Have you tried the Shireen dry gel?  I’m addicted.
>
>
>
> Stays dry and easy to work with until it gets wet.  IF there’s a
> problem that allows liquid into the cable it self seals the hole.  Pretty
> cool stuff.
>
>
>
> I do wish they had a better packaging system.  I really miss the
> “rabbit pull” mechanism that my indoor cable uses.
>
>
>
> marlon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Scott Reed 
>
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 23, 2014 4:31 AM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List 
>
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] outdoor shielded cable for installs in a box
>
>
>
> Shireen, unshield, no gel for installations.
> Shireen, shielded, no gel for towers.
>
> On 1/22/2014 9:20 PM, timothy steele wrote:
>
> I've used shireen cable I will +1 that's good cable.. I've also heard
> of guys making there own reusable spindle holder box so you can use same
> cable for towers and installs so there is that option
>
> —
> Sent from Mailbox  for iPhone
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 9:12 PM, Josh Reynolds 
> wrote:
>
>  UBNT toughcable pro/carrier and/or Shireen is all we use
>
> Josh Reynolds :: Chief Information Officer :: SPITwSPOTS
> :: Ubiquiti Certified AirMax Trainer ::
>
> On 01/22/2014 04:30 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>
>   Just looking for what others are using for boxed cable shielded
> that simple or easy for customer installs. We use a certain cable now, 
> buts
> on rolls, which is ideal for towers, but a pain in the ass for installs. I
> heard UBNT stuff is better, but the partners are upset from the BS from
> earlier go arounds
>
>
>
> thanks
>
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Re: [WISPA] Fw: FW:

[Clay Stewart]

HomeFusion... and here is some encouragement:

We just installed a UBNT NBM5 on a multi-million dollar restored mansion
last week. They had two days left on their Exede 30 day cancellation
clause, which they had just installed to replace the HomeFusion service due
to cost and unreliability (on edge of service). One of their two offices
uses the Internet as a critical link for their law practice... and it was
using Verizon 4G at hundreds of dollars a month, but were getting 15/15.

They now have our business plan 1 of 4 at 5/5 and here is the kicker...
this is a 6 mile shot LOS with that NBM5 and we tested 38/24! So the future
looks good!

Week before last, we did another multi-million dollar mansion which was on
a Verizon T1... and now with a UBNT $80 NBM5 they have not 1.5Mbps, but
10/10Mbps... but just as important... they had three reasons to drop the
Verizon T1 speed was one, price was one... but the trigger to search
and find us was POOR Verizon service support. The mansion's owner was  told
to go down to his basement server room of Ciscos, switches and computers,
and turn things off and on... 6 hours after he called in a trouble ticket.
(Local support company)

So why worry. Market though... as Verizon will lock that area fast with two
year contracts. Find the tower, draw a three mile circle around it and hit
it with yard signs.



On Sun, Feb 23, 2014 at 7:43 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   I had a customer cancel our service a few weeks ago in a town an hour
> away from me. My billing lady got the impression that she was going to use
> her 4G service. She lives out of town a mile where we are the only WISP or
> service around, aside from satellite or cell service. Our equipment was
> laying by her house as she was away for the day when we were there, but
> stated that the new equipment was mounted in our old spot. So my tech took
> this picture and it said Cantenna on the bottom of it. Its not like the
> Cantenna I have seen in the past. I am real positive that I do not have
> another WISP in the area. Do some WISPS use these devices? The closest
> business is a John Deere dealership, and I am fairly certain their IT would
> not allow external usage of their network, and all of the houses in the
> area use our service. Anyways just curious if any one had any ideas of what
> they could be using this for. I have had other customers cheat WiFi from
> their neighbors with different Cantennas, but I would use a UBNT device to
> re-distribute the service, if that’s whats going on
>
> thanks
> heith
>
>  *From:* 6052801...@mms.att.net
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 23, 2014 6:32 PM
> *To:* he...@mncomm.com
> *Subject:* FW:
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Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput

[Clay Stewart]

When we were on 100Mbps uplink to providors Cisco we had to set our rtr to
100 Full no auto, but when we upgraded at our fiber points and they put in
1Gbps Ciscos, we had to set ours on 1Gbps Full auto. But we do use MTs.
On Mar 1, 2014 6:37 PM, "Leon D. Zetekoff"  wrote:

> Auto doesn't always work right on gig ports. Try and make sure you and
> AT&T are set the same. Watch the interface stats and see if u have any
> errors etc. Mismatched interfaces are always a problem.
>
> I'd use the in net tests to give u better info. If u want to use speed
> test.net use Washington as it's close to the heavily used ashburn peering
> point. I prefer myspeed.visualware.com and use Dulles location close to
> ashburn.
>
>
> But sort out any interface issues first. Call AT&T and find out if they
> see any.
>
> Leon
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 24, 2014, at 12:37 PM, Roger Howard  wrote:
>
>
> Thanks, some good points. It's an edgerouter lite. CPU stays low. It's
> around 3%. I was having trouble originally, when AT&T had their switch port
> set at 100/full, and the edgerouter was too. I was only getting 1-2mbps on
> the upload. I finally got AT&T to switch their port to auto negotiate. Now
> it's communicating at a gigabit and upload speeds are much better. However,
> it seems like something is still not quite right.
>
> Even when it was at 100/full I could plug in my laptop directly at
> 100/full and get good speeds. But going through the edgerouter was poor. I
> need to try plugging in directly again now that the switch port is on auto
> negotiate.
>
> I think I'm going to have to go down there during the night and plug in
> directly and do some testing. Figure out if it's the edgerouter that is the
> problem or the fiber link itself.
>
> Thanks,
> Roger
>
>
>
> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>
>>  How is your CPU on your router?  65 mbps sounds low for sure.  If you
>> are on a 100 Mbps circuit have you ever plugged a PC in directly and made
>> sure you are getting the speed. With 100 M setup 92 is about the Max but
>> you have a long way to get to there.   What type of router?
>>
>>
>>
>> Things to look at:
>>
>> Router CPU Load (while running test)
>>
>> Queues setup wrong
>>
>> Poor cable between upstream and router.
>>
>> Wrong Handshaking from upstream.
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> General Manager
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Roger Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 12:18 PM
>>
>> *Cc:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, it's doing around 20-25mbps download right now, and less than 3 megs
>> on the upload. When I'm running the test, the download speed on the router
>> climbs to about 50mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 11:13 AM, Steve Barnes  wrote:
>>
>>  Roger are you looking at your router while you are doing these speed
>> tests.  If you are already pushing out doing 60 Meg of traffic then you
>> cant add another 100 on top of that .
>>
>>
>>
>> *Steve Barnes*
>>
>> General Manager
>>
>> PCSWIN.com
>>
>> Howard LLC.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Roger Howard
>> *Sent:* Monday, February 24, 2014 11:55 AM
>> *Cc:* WISPA General List
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] AT&T MIS Throughput
>>
>>
>>
>> What about this one? I just got 23Mbps down and 66 up.
>>
>>
>> http://www.att.com/speedtest/
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:52 AM, Zach Mann  wrote:
>>
>> It's hard to trust a random server on speedtest dot net.   If Att has
>> their own server on that site I would expect similar results as the Att
>> test being it's on the same network
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, February 24, 2014, Roger Howard  wrote:
>>
>>   Hi,
>>
>>
>>
>> I can max out my 100Mbps fiber connection by uploading 10 files
>> simultaneously to an AT&T test server. But single stream speed tests like
>> speedtest.net and speakeasy.net/speedtest seem to be all over the place.
>> like sometimes less than 10mbps, sometimes more than 50mbps. Is it just me,
>> or do those test sites do that for everyone?
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] remote employee

[Clay Stewart]

d punitive
>> damages are expensive.  Paying withholding taxes is cheap!
>>
>>
>>
>> Last year, one of my clients filed for bankruptcy and liquidated because
>> all those “contractors” they were paying in their construction business
>> started coming out of the woodwork asking for overtime, and unemployment
>> benefits, and other damages.  Please don’t be a statistic!
>>
>>
>>
>> Doug
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
>> Behalf Of *Justin Wilson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 3:10 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List
>>
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] remote employee
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s my understanding that contractors can’t punch a time
>> clock.
>>
>>
>>
>> Provided you have the legal stuff worked out have him use a
>> ticket system which logs hours.  If you don’t have one fresh books is web
>> based and pretty cheap. You can keep track of projects, open support
>> tickets, bill based upon those tickets, notes, all kinds of things.
>> http://www.freshbooks.com
>>
>>
>>
>> Justin
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *heith petersen 
>> *Reply-To: *WISPA General List 
>> *Date: *Wednesday, March 5, 2014 at 1:39 PM
>> *To: *WISPA General List 
>> *Subject: *[WISPA] remote employee
>>
>>
>>
>> So, we finally got our former local tech set up at his office at his
>> new home 3 hours away. He has tunnel access into our net, access to billing
>> and his VoIP phone tied to our switch to make and receive calls on our
>> local lines, just like he did when he sat 10 feet from me. So next is to
>> fine tune things.
>>
>>
>>
>> We dumped him as a regular employee and moved to contract labor with no
>> benefits, basically bumped him to a level where his pay per hour covered
>> what he received via benefits, like insurance and vacation. Makes it easier
>> for the accountant as she just cuts a check and doesn’t have to deduct
>> taxes, however it now becomes his responsibility to claim wages and pay the
>> taxes.
>>
>>
>>
>> What we are working on now is management. My boss wants him to log
>> everything he does and pay from there, but to me that seems to be a lot of
>> work. We have a web based time clock, but I already have issues with techs
>> forgetting to clock in or clock out, I cant imagine it would be better
>> having a guy clock out after every single support call. Our phone system
>> can log time on the phone and where the calls went to, but of course a guy
>> can be busy updating firmware and re-configuring equipment without being on
>> the phone.
>>
>>
>>
>> The guy really only wants to clock 4 hours a day, but I need him
>> available off an on during the day. He is unique and he could sit at home
>> 

Re: [WISPA] remote employee

[Clay Stewart]

Almost funny:

"A 1991 Treasury Department study found that tax compliance for technology
professionals was among the highest of all self-employed workers and that
Section 1706 would raise no additional tax revenue and could possibly
result in losses as self-employed workers did not receive as many tax-free
benefits as employees"

In... 
here<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tax_Reform_Act_of_1986#Tax_treatment_of_technical_service_firms_employing_certain_professionals>


On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Hass, Douglas A.  wrote:

>  It’s important to note, too, that the DOL’s independent contractor
> enforcement has shifted from “getting withholding taxes from companies” to
> “making sure employees aren’t getting screwed out of worker’s comp, Social
> Security earnings, overtime, and unemployment benefits.”  It’s that latter
> goal that is really driving the big increases in budget to go after IT,
> janitorial, construction and other industries where there’s a heavy
> “contractor” presence.
>
>
>
> Forrest has some great points below, too, and, as an attorney, I see some
> value in the approach that Montana uses, since it gives employers and
> employees/contractors a push toward proper classification.  There’s no
> magic test, though.  “He has a business.  He sends me an invoice.  He does
> other work, too.  He’s a contractor.” is probably the most common
> justification that employment lawyers see.  The existence or non-existence
> of a business entity or even the presence of other clients doesn’t
> automatically make someone a contractor or not a contractor.  It’s these
> black and white tests that get employers into trouble.
>
>
>
> Doug
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Clay Stewart
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 05, 2014 4:12 PM
>
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] remote employee
>
>
>
> When all of this came into being, the law killing independent contractors
> in Dec 1986... oh I remember so well... the purpose was to get a lot of
> missing taxes from people with 'companies' that were not paying taxes,
> hidden under layers of subcontracting 'contracts'. At the time the law came
> out I was an independent subcontractor to another subcontractor for
> teaching SAS in St. Loius to Purina Chow... the top contractor had such a
> hard time finding someone to do that job, I was 6 deep in the subcontractor
> stack... each taking a piece of the very high bill. My independent company
> name... same as today, Stewart Computer Services.
>
>
>
> So the IRS decided that if a person, or company, did not meet their
> description of a company, regardless of type (corp, independent, whatever),
> then your contractor was responsible for back paying all overtime and
> employee benefits and taxes. By Jan 1987, independent contracting was
> almost totally killed as all of the larger companies let go contractors of
> all sizes in a storm of IRS fear... especially in accounting and IT.
>
>
>
> Today, it still holds true... if a subcontractor's company does not verify
> as a true company under an IRS audit, the contracting company will be held
> liable.
>
>
>
> We got around that in 1987 by forming S-Corps and doing everything by the
> book as a corporation... and went back to the same contracts we had lost as
> independent contractors... doing the same jobs we did as independent
> contractors... paying the same taxes we did as independent contractors...
> got to love the Feds.
>
>
>
> The complexities and risks of using independent contractors today in any
> IT field is possible, but has risks which keep most people using employees.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 5, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
> One other to really think about how to make the distinction is this:
>
>
>
> Are you hiring an individual or a business?   If you're paying an
> individual to do work for you, there's a good chance that they're NOT an
> independent contractor.   If you're paying a business then they probably
> are.   And to clarify: I don't mean adding a company name will resolve the
> issue.
>
>
>
> If the person you're hiring is setting up a *business* to answer support
> calls for you and for others, and is actively seeking other clients in
> addition to you, then that's an independent contractor.   They should also
> provide all their own tools and so on.
>
>
>
> If the person is setting at home, answering calls only for you, has no
> intent to go out and add other clients, etc. etc. etc. then they're an
> employee, and need to b

Re: [WISPA] ePMP PTP Results

[Clay Stewart]

Excellent post Chris, thanks for the info.

Is your final solution to just set a bandwidth limit at MT so as not to
have the latency spike?


On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:26 AM, Chris Fabien  wrote:

> I spent some time tonight working with a couple ePMP radios on a test link
> and thought I'd share some results since I didn't get much feedback when I
> asked about this use case a couple weeks ago.
>
> Setup
> The link is a 7.5 mile link in a fairly noisy area, it has 2ft ubiquiti
> rocket dishes with RF Armor shield kits and formerly had normal Rocket M5
> radios. Mikrotik CCR on one end and RB450 on other end. Evaluated latency
> and throughput between the two routers using the RouterOS bandwidth test.
> Used 20mhz channel throughout test.
>
> On a noisy frequency where the link had been running, about -75 noise
> floor, the Ubnt link would pass around 40 mbps aggregate with low latency
> <10ms. The ePMP would pass about 70mbps with stable 18ms latency, but
> performance was inconsistent when changing direction (tx/rx/both) - almost
> like the noise was little higher in one direction and affecting link
> stability when I tried to run traffic in that direction. It seemed a little
> less stable overall on that freq than the Ubnt radios. Throughout the
> testing at this freq MCS varied 9-13.
>
> On a cleaner frequency (DFS band) I was able to achieve solid MCS15. The
> ePMP was able to deliver >100mbps aggregate throughput consistently, which
> I found very impressive. The most I usually see from normal Rockets in this
> type of test is usually around 70mbps.
>
> The ePMP latency performance was a little unusual however. I noticed that
> when I saturated the link, latency jumped up to 200-400ms. If I restricted
> bandwidth to 90Mbps, I got nice consistent 18ms pings. When I run this type
> of test on ubnt I do not see a latency spike like this. Mikrotik radios
> running NV2 do increase at saturation, but only to around 100ms typically.
> So I would say ePMP performance is worse in this regard.
>
> I also noticed some inconsistent performance with regard to the ping times
> expected for the fixed/flexible scheduling in the ePMP. When I was first
> testing, I ran flexible mode and saw pings generally 6-10ms. In fixed mode,
> I saw 17-18 ms which I think is what's expected. That was several days
> ago... tonight I was seeing the 17-18ms even though I'm set to flexible -
> almost like it's stuck. I am able to push nearly full speed in both
> directions so it is definatley not in fixed mode.
>
> Hope this feedback is valuable for you all. I think these radios could be
> a very good option for low cost ptp radio, it would be nice if they could
> get the latency spike reduced.
>
> Chris Fabien
> LakeNet LLC
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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[Clay Stewart]

192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in router mode
(AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
> When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
> When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
> That is with the router removed.
> I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
> The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
> Help
> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[Clay Stewart]

If the WAN is left in DHCP, the default fall back IP is 192.168.10.1 .  If
you set a static IP on WAN, then that IP goes away.


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  Just a couple of Air Routers in SOHO mode.
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:16 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>
> 192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in router mode
> (AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
>> When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
>> When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
>> That is with the router removed.
>> I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
>> The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
>> Help
>> NGL
>>
>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[Clay Stewart]

Well, the router is only 192.168.1.10 when WAN is on DHCP... which I think
as long as it gets an assigned DHCP address, you cannot see the
192.168.10.1, just like when you assign it a static IP. But, if you unplug
that router from the DHCP circuit, or turnoff the DHCP server, and the
router is rebooted or times out the DHCP clients IP address, then it will
have the fall back IP available... 192.168.10.1.

If you ping out of a router up stream through WAN, and it is not connected
to a DHCP server, or assigned a static, the ping will say it is coming from
192.168.10.1


On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  Can all routers be the same IP on the Wan side?
> NGL
>
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:31 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>
> If the WAN is left in DHCP, the default fall back IP is 192.168.10.1 .  If
> you set a static IP on WAN, then that IP goes away.
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  Just a couple of Air Routers in SOHO mode.
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:16 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>
>> 192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in router mode
>> (AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>  I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
>>> When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
>>> When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
>>> That is with the router removed.
>>> I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
>>> The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
>>> Help
>>> NGL
>>>
>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>
>>> ___
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>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[Clay Stewart]

Let me see if I fully understand the situation. This is what I understand
from what is written above.

You have a router as a DHCP server, which goes through a bridged CPE Radio
and gives the sub's router's WAN DHCP client it's address. (Please correct
this if wrong)

So when you ping the CPE radio static address from your router, it works.
But if you ping from sub's router or directly to CPE radio it returns
192.168.10.1?

I do not think we have a clear picture yet of how and what umits are
involve. My description is sort of best guess.
On Mar 13, 2014 4:50 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:

>  Do you think that will solve this issue?
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Edward Spoon 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:59 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>
> Sounds like you need to turn on WDS.
>
>  Ed Spoon 
> Internet Services Manager - triparish.net / cajun.net
> CSS, Inc <http://www.cssla.com>. / 985-879-3219
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>
>>  All air routers are now static IP,s and I still have the problem
>> If I disconnect the client from the AP I get the correct IP. but on a few
>> client it changes at the client side when I go on line to 192.168.10.1
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:12 AM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>
>> Well, the router is only 192.168.1.10 when WAN is on DHCP... which I
>> think as long as it gets an assigned DHCP address, you cannot see the
>> 192.168.10.1, just like when you assign it a static IP. But, if you unplug
>> that router from the DHCP circuit, or turnoff the DHCP server, and the
>> router is rebooted or times out the DHCP clients IP address, then it will
>> have the fall back IP available... 192.168.10.1.
>>
>> If you ping out of a router up stream through WAN, and it is not
>> connected to a DHCP server, or assigned a static, the ping will say it is
>> coming from 192.168.10.1
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>  Can all routers be the same IP on the Wan side?
>>> NGL
>>>
>>>
>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:31 AM
>>>  *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>>
>>> If the WAN is left in DHCP, the default fall back IP is 192.168.10.1 .
>>>  If you set a static IP on WAN, then that IP goes away.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Just a couple of Air Routers in SOHO mode.
>>>> NGL
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:16 AM
>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>>>
>>>> 192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in router
>>>> mode (AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
>>>>> When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
>>>>> When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
>>>>> That is with the router removed.
>>>>> I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
>>>>> The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
>>>>> Help
>>>>> NGL
>>>>>
>>>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>>>
>>>>> ___
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>>>>> Wireless@wispa.org
>>>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Strange IP

[Clay Stewart]

No


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 10:06 AM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  Would I get this result if I run out of IP address?
> NGL
>
>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 7:26 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>
> Let me see if I fully understand the situation. This is what I understand
> from what is written above.
>
> You have a router as a DHCP server, which goes through a bridged CPE Radio
> and gives the sub's router's WAN DHCP client it's address. (Please correct
> this if wrong)
>
> So when you ping the CPE radio static address from your router, it works.
> But if you ping from sub's router or directly to CPE radio it returns
> 192.168.10.1?
>
> I do not think we have a clear picture yet of how and what umits are
> involve. My description is sort of best guess.
> On Mar 13, 2014 4:50 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>
>>  Do you think that will solve this issue?
>> NGL
>>
>>  *From:* Edward Spoon 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 12:59 PM
>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>
>> Sounds like you need to turn on WDS.
>>
>>  Ed Spoon 
>> Internet Services Manager - triparish.net / cajun.net
>> CSS, Inc <http://www.cssla.com>. / 985-879-3219
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 2:29 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>
>>>  All air routers are now static IP,s and I still have the problem
>>> If I disconnect the client from the AP I get the correct IP. but on a
>>> few client it changes at the client side when I go on line to 192.168.10.1
>>> NGL
>>>
>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:12 AM
>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>>
>>> Well, the router is only 192.168.1.10 when WAN is on DHCP... which I
>>> think as long as it gets an assigned DHCP address, you cannot see the
>>> 192.168.10.1, just like when you assign it a static IP. But, if you unplug
>>> that router from the DHCP circuit, or turnoff the DHCP server, and the
>>> router is rebooted or times out the DHCP clients IP address, then it will
>>> have the fall back IP available... 192.168.10.1.
>>>
>>> If you ping out of a router up stream through WAN, and it is not
>>> connected to a DHCP server, or assigned a static, the ping will say it is
>>> coming from 192.168.10.1
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:40 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Can all routers be the same IP on the Wan side?
>>>> NGL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:31 AM
>>>>  *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>>>
>>>> If the WAN is left in DHCP, the default fall back IP is 192.168.10.1 .
>>>>  If you set a static IP on WAN, then that IP goes away.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:26 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Just a couple of Air Routers in SOHO mode.
>>>>> NGL
>>>>>
>>>>>  *From:* Clay Stewart 
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:16 AM
>>>>> *To:* WISPA General List 
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Strange IP
>>>>>
>>>>> 192.168.10.1 is the fall back IP for any UBNT unit that is in router
>>>>> mode (AirRouter, NBM5, whatever.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 12:14 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I am getting a strange IP address at the clients end,
>>>>>> When I ping it from my end I get the correct IP.
>>>>>> When I ping it from the clients end I get 92.168.10.1.
>>>>>> That is with the router removed.
>>>>>> I am getting this on a few clients, mostly Ubiquiti users.
>>>>>> The network is DHCP my router is the DHCP Server..
>>>>>> Help
>>>>>> NGL
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   If you can read this Thank A Teacher.
>>>>>> And if it's in English Thank A Soldier!
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>

Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Clay Stewart]

Maybe one or two are backup radios, off till other one(s) are blown...
meaning it is just a two radio sector.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Stuart Pierce  wrote:

>
> Looks like the top left rocket isn't even powered up.
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: Gino Villarini 
> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
> Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:19:30 +
>
> >I think one of the many local wisps popping here are getting very
> "creative"
> >
> >Anyone can ID this sector? Im thinking its a Mobile Carrier antenna that
> they are reusing… but what band?
> >
> >
> >
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> >President
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> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Clay Stewart]

Wish I had thought of looking into a larger antenna holding box... just
leased a tower which will have 6 of the UBNT TI sectors (2.4/5.8)... could
have saved me about $500 a month in lease fees. I wonder if there is
already a box that could hold a TI 2.4 and TI 5.8? I want to use TIs for
the shielding and performance.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:20 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
p...@believewireless.net> wrote:

> I've thought about doing this in case of equipment failure. Have one radio
> powered off and the other active. If the active
> should die or have issues, I can remotely switch on the powered off radio
> and power down the active radio.
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Stuart Pierce  wrote:
>
>>
>> Looks like the top left rocket isn't even powered up.
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: Gino Villarini 
>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>> Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:19:30 +
>>
>> >I think one of the many local wisps popping here are getting very
>> "creative"
>> >
>> >Anyone can ID this sector? Im thinking its a Mobile Carrier antenna that
>> they are reusing… but what band?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >Gino A. Villarini
>> >President
>> >Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>> >www.aeronetpr.com
>> >@aeronetpr
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Clay Stewart]

Let me clarify, regular M2 rockets on TI sectors.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Mark Spring  wrote:

> Clay,
>
> We put up some of the TI rockets with the same idea in mind, maybe they've
> gotten better but I got sick of sending guys out to change them out. Even
> after the recall it seems that they create more work, sticking with the old
> school sectors and rockets for now(with shielding). Just my two cents on a
> slightly unrelated topic.
>
> Was KP looking at dual frequency antennas like this recently? Seems to me
> that I saw something similar floating around the boards..
>
> Mark Spring
> Systems Analyst
>
> New Knoxville Telephone Company
> 301 W. South St.
> New Knoxville, OH 45871
> 419.753.5000
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> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
>> There are a few companies that make dual band sectors, IT Elite being one
>> of them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
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>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
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>> *From: *"Clay Stewart" 
>> *To: *can...@believewireless.net, "WISPA General List" <
>> wireless@wispa.org>
>> *Sent: *Monday, March 17, 2014 8:24:44 AM
>>
>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached
>>
>> Wish I had thought of looking into a larger antenna holding box... just
>> leased a tower which will have 6 of the UBNT TI sectors (2.4/5.8)... could
>> have saved me about $500 a month in lease fees. I wonder if there is
>> already a box that could hold a TI 2.4 and TI 5.8? I want to use TIs for
>> the shielding and performance.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:20 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I've thought about doing this in case of equipment failure. Have one
>>> radio powered off and the other active. If the active
>>> should die or have issues, I can remotely switch on the powered off
>>> radio and power down the active radio.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 8:30 AM, Stuart Pierce wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looks like the top left rocket isn't even powered up.
>>>>
>>>> -- Original Message --
>>>> From: Gino Villarini 
>>>> Reply-To: WISPA General List 
>>>> Date:  Sun, 16 Mar 2014 13:19:30 +
>>>>
>>>> >I think one of the many local wisps popping here are getting very
>>>> "creative"
>>>> >
>>>> >Anyone can ID this sector? Im thinking its a Mobile Carrier antenna
>>>> that they are reusing… but what band?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >Gino A. Villarini
>>>> >President
>>>> >Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
>>>> >www.aeronetpr.com
>>>> >@aeronetpr
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 
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Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Clay Stewart]

When you are saying TI is 'not worth its salt', are you saying the sectors
or the TI radios? We have a couple dozen TI sectors using non-TI radios
with great results. Installed a NanoBeam M5 to one last Friday with
25/18Mbps at 1.5 miles and on last Saturday install an RDM5 dish to same TI
sector with standard M5 rocket at 5.5 miles for 20/18 on the edge of the
120 degrees and through row of trees. Noise levels. Then two weeks ago we
had 38/25 on one at 5 miles with NanoBridge.

TI Radios have reported issues and have not used them at all yet... waiting
for better reports. Just wanted to clear up discussion. I use RFArmour
also, but the TI sectors have less wind load and foot print for our
mini-towers.




On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Mark Spring  wrote:

> I had to relocate some TI Sectors that I installed because of inter AP
> interference. While I didn't get a chance to haul rf armor up and compare
> the two, so perhaps it was just planned poorly from the start. The
> overwhelming response I see online is that the titanium gear isn't worth
> it's salt, so when we saw this in the field we just went back to the
> trusted gear. They are making 5ghz rf armor for the titanium sectors.
>
> The nanobeam does seem to be a recent piece of innovation that has turned
> out well...it hasn't baked for a long time though, hoping it proves out
> because I really like what I see at this point.
>
> Mark Spring
> Systems Analyst
>
> New Knoxville Telephone Company
> 301 W. South St.
> New Knoxville, OH 45871
> 419.753.5000
>
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>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Clay Stewart <
> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>> Let me clarify, regular M2 rockets on TI sectors.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Mark Spring  wrote:
>>
>>> Clay,
>>>
>>> We put up some of the TI rockets with the same idea in mind, maybe
>>> they've gotten better but I got sick of sending guys out to change them
>>> out. Even after the recall it seems that they create more work, sticking
>>> with the old school sectors and rockets for now(with shielding). Just my
>>> two cents on a slightly unrelated topic.
>>>
>>> Was KP looking at dual frequency antennas like this recently? Seems to
>>> me that I saw something similar floating around the boards..
>>>
>>> Mark Spring
>>> Systems Analyst
>>>
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>>>
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>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Mike Hammett 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> There are a few companies that make dual band sectors, IT Elite being
>>>> one of them.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -
>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>>
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>>>> *From: *"Clay Stewart" 
>>>> *To: *can...@believewireless.net, "WISPA General List" <
>>>> wireless@wispa.org>
>>>> *Sent: *Monday, March 17, 2014 8:24:44 AM
>>>>
>>>> *Subject: *Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached
>>>>
>>>> Wish I had thought of looking into a larger antenna holding box... just
>>>> leased a tower which will have 6 of the UBNT TI sectors (2.4/5.8)... could
>>>> have saved me about $500 a month in lease fees. I wonder if there is
>>>> already a box that could hold a TI 2.4 and TI 5.8? I want to use TIs for
>>>> the shielding and performance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:20 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>&g

Re: [WISPA] 8x8 antenna for ubnt?? pic attached

[Clay Stewart]

Also... to remain non-bias... have many Itelite ants too with Rockets. They
are great for very low profile, esthetically placement of rockets,
especially the 55 degree square box models.

Would be very interested in a box to accept an RM2 and RM5. I talked to an
ex-installer today who now works for one of the big cells as tower
equipment engineer... he says almost all of the LTE sectors are dual
band... show me a phone picture which looked very much like the box that
started this thread.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:25 PM, Clay Stewart <
cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:

> When you are saying TI is 'not worth its salt', are you saying the sectors
> or the TI radios? We have a couple dozen TI sectors using non-TI radios
> with great results. Installed a NanoBeam M5 to one last Friday with
> 25/18Mbps at 1.5 miles and on last Saturday install an RDM5 dish to same TI
> sector with standard M5 rocket at 5.5 miles for 20/18 on the edge of the
> 120 degrees and through row of trees. Noise levels. Then two weeks ago we
> had 38/25 on one at 5 miles with NanoBridge.
>
> TI Radios have reported issues and have not used them at all yet...
> waiting for better reports. Just wanted to clear up discussion. I use
> RFArmour also, but the TI sectors have less wind load and foot print for
> our mini-towers.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:20 PM, Mark Spring  wrote:
>
>> I had to relocate some TI Sectors that I installed because of inter AP
>> interference. While I didn't get a chance to haul rf armor up and compare
>> the two, so perhaps it was just planned poorly from the start. The
>> overwhelming response I see online is that the titanium gear isn't worth
>> it's salt, so when we saw this in the field we just went back to the
>> trusted gear. They are making 5ghz rf armor for the titanium sectors.
>>
>> The nanobeam does seem to be a recent piece of innovation that has turned
>> out well...it hasn't baked for a long time though, hoping it proves out
>> because I really like what I see at this point.
>>
>> Mark Spring
>> Systems Analyst
>>
>> New Knoxville Telephone Company
>> 301 W. South St.
>> New Knoxville, OH 45871
>> 419.753.5000
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 2:06 PM, Clay Stewart <
>> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Let me clarify, regular M2 rockets on TI sectors.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Mark Spring  wrote:
>>>
>>>> Clay,
>>>>
>>>> We put up some of the TI rockets with the same idea in mind, maybe
>>>> they've gotten better but I got sick of sending guys out to change them
>>>> out. Even after the recall it seems that they create more work, sticking
>>>> with the old school sectors and rockets for now(with shielding). Just my
>>>> two cents on a slightly unrelated topic.
>>>>
>>>> Was KP looking at dual frequency antennas like this recently? Seems to
>>>> me that I saw something similar floating around the boards..
>>>>
>>>> Mark Spring
>>>> Systems Analyst
>>>>
>>>> New Knoxville Telephone Company
>>>> 301 W. South St.
>>>> New Knoxville, OH 45871
>>>> 419.753.5000
>>>>
>>>> This message and the file(s) attached are confidential and proprietary
>>>> information of NKTelco for the sole use of the intended recipient. Any
>>>> unauthorized review, distribution, disclosure, copying, use, or
>>>> dissemination, either whole or in part, is strictly prohibited. Do not
>>>> transmit these documents, in any form, to any third party without the
>>>> expressed written permission of NKTelco.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 9:27 AM, Mike Hammett >>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> There are a few companies that make dual band sectors, IT Elite being
>>>>> one of them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -
>>>>> Mike Hammett
>>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation

[Clay Stewart]

Heith, simpleton here... you said it was working for two years, and nothing
has changed is assumed with that statement... so barring one of the radios
going berserk and all cat5 is still intact and all POE generating correct
voltage... I would say it is an external interference issues and would
start by turning off all radios, and then one at a time turn only one one
and perform a frequency scan... bet you find something.

As for closeness of installed dishes, not a big issue depending on freq
separation... although the OMNI would bother me shooting down into all
other radios that close... just have never done that here, but do have some
dishes that close with no deadly issues.


On Mon, Mar 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM, heith petersen  wrote:

>   Yeah, coax seal. Though I would prefer a different style of loop on the
> cable, all cables actually.
>
>  *From:* Marlon Schafer (509.982.2181) 
> *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2014 11:39 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation
>
>   Also, hard to tell from the picture but is the omni weather proofed?
>
> marlon
>
>
>  *From:* Mark Spring 
> *Sent:* Friday, March 14, 2014 12:53 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation
>
>  Is the omni at least a different frequency? Sometimes you gotta do what
> you gotta do...maybe they were short on cat5 each time they put in a new
> circuit..?
>
>  Mark Spring
> Systems Analyst
>
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> 301 W. South St.
> New Knoxville, OH 45871
> 419.753.5000
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>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> I wasn't sure if you were immediately assuming that install would never
>> work.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>
>>  On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:46 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>
>>> Its all M5. I was being sarcastic, but for Luthman's sake I don’t know
>>> the
>>> font for sarcasm.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Matt Hoppes
>>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2014 2:30 PM
>>> To: WISPA General List
>>> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Do i have enough separation
>>>
>>> The answer to your question lies in what you are doing what
>>> frequencies are these devices?
>>>
>>>
>>> Matt Hoppes
>>> Director of Information Technology
>>> Indigo Wireless
>>> +1 (570) 723-7312 <%2B1%20%28570%29%20723-7312>
>>>
>>> On 3/14/14, 3:11 PM, heith petersen wrote:
>>> > So I had my new tech go on this grain leg to troubleshoot a poor
>>> through
>>> > put situation. Then he told me what he saw and sent me a picture. This
>>> > was done by a former contractor 3 hours away from me. The top of this
>>> > grain leg is only 20x20 foot square. Weird thing is it has been working
>>> > well for 2 years and now has been causing issues.
>>> >
>>> > heith
>>> >
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Re: [WISPA] Daisy chain

[Clay Stewart]

I have a few done, but I always trade out POE .5 with a 1 AMP POE.  We will
do passthroughs in order to have a second radio beam to another property
location such as an estates second home or office... or even barn.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:24 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  How well do Nanostation M2 daisy chain?
> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Daisy chain

[Clay Stewart]

No problem, do this a lot for same reasons. We are static private IPs on
CPEs, so each have one... would assume be no issue if you run a DHCP to
CPEs instead.


On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 1:39 PM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>  I have a Nanobridge CPE installed and I want to relay about a half mile
> to another CPE.
> NGL
>
>
>  *From:* Josh Luthman 
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 25, 2014 10:32 AM
> *To:* WISPA General List 
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Daisy chain
>
> I've done two a bunch.  The PSU is 12 or 24 watts.  Radio is 5 watts.
>
> What are you trying to do?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 25, 2014 12:24 PM, "~NGL~"  wrote:
>
>>  How well do Nanostation M2 daisy chain?
>> NGL
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Re: [WISPA] Test

[Clay Stewart]

I can't read it... was skooled in a WV 2 room school house and was no good
at tests.


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Re: [WISPA] Outsourced email

[Clay Stewart]

All our customers use their own email... turned off Exchange Servers 4
years ago. Not one single new customer EVER asks for email.

We use GMail Business for everything at office.


On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 11:37 AM, ~NGL~  wrote:

>   I know this was just a topic on this list, but I lost all of the
> contact information regarding  Google or other companies.
> Please help if you have a contact.
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Re: [WISPA] Louisa, VA

[Clay Stewart]

CVALINK - you see this... should be close to you Brian!


On Sun, Apr 6, 2014 at 5:45 PM, David Hannum
wrote:

> Had a call looking for service at the following location:
>
> 7827 Ellisville Drive
> Louisa, VA
> 540-967-9214
> Ask for Samuel
>
> Dave Hannum
> New Era Broadband
> www.newerabroadband.com
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Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?

[Clay Stewart]

Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can walk u
through later today. Our websire customer lookup...
http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910
On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.  There's all
> the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know what a
> customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in the same
> list.  I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to
> simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be from a tower
> while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
>
> I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service, too.
>  There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for support, it
> doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
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Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?

[Clay Stewart]

You can by editing site abnd changing cpe height.  Do not know of any other
way.
On Apr 9, 2014 3:19 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> I'm not talking about customers plotting where their address is.  What I'm
> getting at is if I have a customer called in, I'd like to just punch in the
> location and then see if they'll work at ground level or how high we need
> to get off the ground and see the signal change as I increment height.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Clay Stewart <
> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
>> Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can walk
>> u through later today. Our websire customer lookup...
>> http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910
>> On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.  There's all
>>> the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know what a
>>> customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in the same
>>> list.  I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to
>>> simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be from a tower
>>> while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
>>>
>>> I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service, too.
>>>  There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for support, it
>>> doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us.
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
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Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?

[Clay Stewart]

Kristian, one thing to consider is sales... we get enough sales off TC to
pay for it! (using the web clip on our site)


On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Kristian Hoffmann wrote:

>  Ya, I don't mean to discourage anyone from using your product.  The
> features are really cool.  I've just been doing it myself since the NTIA
> mapping stuff started, so I haven't needed to.  I'll check it out anyway.
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Kristian
>
>
> On 04/09/2014 01:57 PM, Jim Patient wrote:
>
>  You are correct Kristian,
>
>
>
> Towercoverage.com is basically Radio Mobile in the back end but the
> difference is multithreading on the CPUs.  Roger has wrote a special
> exclusive version for this site to utilize all 8 cores for rendering on
> each server.  We basically round robin the 20 processing servers.  That is
> why we can render the maps in around 60 seconds as opposed to hours.
>
>
>
> If you or anyone else hasen’t tried it your welcome to try it free.  Just
> sign up and use promo code WISPA in your account settings.
>
>
>
> Ya’ll are welcome to give me a call as well if you want me to walk you
> through it and/or help with tweaking the settings.
>
>
>
> Thx,
>
>
>
> Jim Patient
>
> Office: 314-735-0270
>
> towercoverage.com
> linktechs.net
>
> wlan1.com
> [image: qr_new_cell]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org 
> [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Kristian Hoffmann
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:32 PM
> *To:* wireless@wispa.org
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>
>
>
> The limitation you're seeing of having to add another site to change the
> rx elevation is because calculating path loss to one point is relatively
> easy.  Calculating it for the entire coverage area takes a fair amount of
> computing power, to the point that even on really fast hardware, it needs
> to be done ahead of time and cached.  So, there's no "dynamically" changing
> the elevation of your plot.  At best, they could pre-plot and cache a
> series of rx elevations and let you select from those choices.  But if they
> let you have 4 choices (say 10, 15, 25, 35ft AGL), that would quadruple the
> amount of data they have to store for your (and potentially everyone's)
> coverage maps.
>
> Suffice it to say, the problem is non-trivial.  I use Splat! instead of
> RadioMobile or towercoverage.com, but the algorithm and computational
> complexity is the same (they all use Longley Rice, last time I checked).
>
> The only thing I've seen that comes close to what you're asking was the
> guy doing near-real time viewshed magic, but I haven't heard or seen
> anything from him since WISPAPALOOZA 2012.
>
> -Kristian
>
> On 04/09/2014 12:25 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
>  What?  Have you ever used Radio Mobile?
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:24 PM, Matt Hoppes 
> wrote:
>
> Signals don't change as you increment heights. You're asking for real time
> foliage mapping. Not going to find it.
>
>
> On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
>  I'm not talking about customers plotting where their address is.  What
> I'm getting at is if I have a customer called in, I'd like to just punch in
> the location and then see if they'll work at ground level or how high we
> need to get off the ground and see the signal change as I increment height.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Clay Stewart <
> cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com> wrote:
>
> Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can walk u
> through later today. Our websire customer lookup...
> http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910
>
> On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman" 
> wrote:
>
>   I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.  There's
> all the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know
> what a customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in
> the same list.  I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so
> convoluted to simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be
> from a tower while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
>
>
>
> I'm wondering if ther

Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?

[Clay Stewart]

Yes, good way to look at it Brian, thanks.

So, is there a minimum height per frequency... say for 900Mhz "you should
never shoot less then x feet', like less then 6'?


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Brian Webster <
bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com> wrote:

> Fresnel zones are 180 degrees out of phase with even and odd numbered zones
> (1st, 2nd, 3rd and so on). When you design a path you strive for an exposed
> Fresnel zone of between 1 and .6 of the first zone, meaning you use the
> ground/trees/obstructions to block the second and higher numbered zones
> (this is only partially blocking the zone at the bottom). This minimizes
> the
> cancelling effect giving an apparent gain.
>
> A good visual example of this is to take a Flashlight such as a Mag light
> with an adjustable beam and shine it against the wall to see the circular
> pattern. Carefully look at that pattern and you will see light and dark
> rings, these are your Fresnel zones and the lighter ones are the odd
> numbered zones. The idea is you keep the first bright zone and eliminate
> the
> rest. This is why going higher is not always better on a PTP path to get
> more signal once you have cleared obstructions, going higher can expose
> more
> even numbered Fresnel zones with the phase cancelling and a reduction in
> signal due to same.
>
> Thank You,
> Brian Webster
> www.wirelessmapping.com
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Matt Hoppes [mailto:mhop...@indigowireless.com]
> Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2014 9:07 AM
> To: bwebs...@wirelessmapping.com; WISPA General List
> Subject: Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>
> Can you explain this more?  This isn't what I was getting at... but since
> you brought it up and it's been brought up before it might be worth
> explaining in more detail.  I'm familiar with the concept but still can't
> grasp why it works.
>
>
> Matt Hoppes
> Director of Information Technology
> Indigo Wireless
> +1 (570) 723-7312
>
> On 4/10/14, 9:04 AM, Brian Webster wrote:
> > Matt,
> >
> > Signals do change as you change height as you expose
> > or conceal the even number Fresnel zones.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank You,
> >
> > Brian Webster
> >
> > www.wirelessmapping.com <http://www.wirelessmapping.com>
> >
> > www.Broadband-Mapping.com
> >
> >
> >
> > *From:*wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org]
> > *On Behalf Of *Matt Hoppes
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 3:24 PM
> > *To:* WISPA General List
> > *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
> >
> >
> >
> > Signals don't change as you increment heights. You're asking for real
> > time foliage mapping. Not going to find it.
> >
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2014, at 3:18 PM, Josh Luthman  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm not talking about customers plotting where their address is.
> >  What I'm getting at is if I have a customer called in, I'd like to
> > just punch in the location and then see if they'll work at ground
> > level or how high we need to get off the ground and see the signal
> > change as I increment height.
> >
> >
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 9, 2014 at 3:16 PM, Clay Stewart
> >  > <mailto:cstew...@stewartcomputerservices.com>> wrote:
> >
> > Josh. You can. Just put the web snip on a website. If need help can
> > walk u through later today. Our websire customer lookup...
> > http://www.towercoverage.com/iframemc.asp?mcid=1223&Acct=2910
> >
> > On Apr 9, 2014 3:08 PM, "Josh Luthman"  > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote:
> >
> > I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.
> >  There's all the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example
> > wanting to know what a customer's CPE would be without adding a
> > site and putting them in the same list.  I feel with technology
> > as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to simply put a dot on a
> > map and see what the signal would be from a tower while being
> > able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm wonde

Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?

[Clay Stewart]

Excellent!


On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Jim Patient  wrote:

> Ok,  Ya’ll win.  The programmers are working on this as we speak.  Finding
> the needed height for the desired signal is going to be automatic.  The
> site is going to look at the desired signal.  If it is below what it should
> be the it is going to start raising the antenna until the desired signal is
> reached and return the estimated height needed for the link.  You won’t
> need to click to move it up.  This will be dynamic.
>
>
>
> Still needs more testing before it goes live.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:58 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>
>
>
> From 1:33 PM Eastern today.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:56 PM, James Howard  wrote:
>
> Including the .9472 days since you asked the question?
>
>
>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 10, 2014 12:52 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* Re: [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>
>
>
> I'll give you 1.47 days.
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 1:33 PM, Dennis Burgess 
> wrote:
>
> BTW, give us a day or two!   Think we have a idea on this that will help!
> J
>
>
>
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>
> *From:* wireless-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:wireless-boun...@wispa.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 09, 2014 2:08 PM
> *To:* WISPA General List
> *Subject:* [WISPA] Who is using Towercoverage.com ?
>
>
>
> I'm having a hard time adjusting to this from Radio Mobile.  There's all
> the same "stupid" interface shortfalls, for example wanting to know what a
> customer's CPE would be without adding a site and putting them in the same
> list.  I feel with technology as it is, it shouldn't be so convoluted to
> simply put a dot on a map and see what the signal would be from a tower
> while being able to adjust the elevation on the fly.
>
>
>
> I'm wondering if there's another list/forum for this service, too.
>  There's no way I'm going write a bible of questions for support, it
> doesn't make a whole lot of sense for either of us.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
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Re: [WISPA] Rocket AP through put

[Clay Stewart]

Need to know - Freq, and CW?


On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Art Stephens  wrote:

> Looking for some feed back concerning Rocket APs. We have quite a few of
> these in the field with UBNT Sectors and KPerformance Sectors.
>
> What we run into is customer complaints about slow speeds at night when
> they call into after hours support. We come in the next day and run speed
> tests to the radios and they look ok.
>
> Some APs have 20 subs and some as high as 50 subs.
>
> Yesterday one of our employees ran speed tests from his home connected to
> one of those APs during the day and he got 15M. Then that evening he tried
> to watch Netflix - biggest complaint from most subs - and it would not
> start. He ran a speed test and got 500K. The AP he is connected to has 19
> subs.
>
> Trying to figure out just how many subs streaming on an AP will bring the
> through put down to 500K?
>
> We are considering limiting how many streams can run on a given AP but
> need to figure where the breaking point is if that makes any sense.
>
> Thanks for any insight any one can shed on this.
>
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