[WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Justin French
Here's a function:
function helpLinks()
	{
	if(!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
	var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a);
	for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++)
		{
		var anchor = anchors[i];
		if (anchor.getAttribute(href)  anchor.getAttribute(rel) ==  
help)
			{
			anchor.setAttribute(			 
onclick,window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scr 
ollbars,resizable'); return false;,0);
			}
		}
	}

It works perfectly well in everything I can get my hands on except for  
IE, where it fails to set the onclick event to all A elements with a  
rel attribute of 'help'.

Changing anchor.setAttribute(...) to  
anchor.setAttribute('target','_blank',0); DOES work (the link opens in  
a new window), so it would appear that IE doesn't like setting onlick  
attributes this way.

Can anyone either:
- suggest an alternate way to achieve this, or
- suggest a good mailing list to seek further help on (like a DOM list)
---
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http://indent.com.au
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Re: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Chris Blown
On Thu, 2004-08-19 at 16:22, Justin French wrote:
 Can anyone either:
 - suggest an alternate way to achieve this, or

This might help

http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/methods/attachevent.asp

if (anchor.attachEvent) anchor.attachEvent(onClick, function_name);



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RE: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Eser 'Laroux'
You can use attachEvent method for this. But it's supported by Internet
Explorer 6 only.

--
a href=about:mozilla rel=helptest/a

script type=text/javascript
var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName('a');
for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++) {
var anchor = anchors[i];
if (anchor.getAttribute('rel') == 'help') {
anchor.attachEvent(
'onclick',
function() {
window.open(event.srcElement.getAttribute('href'),'popupwindow','width=400,h
eight=400,scrollbars=1,resizable=1'); return false; }
);
}
}
/script


 -Original Message-
 Here's a function:
 
 function helpLinks()
   {
   if(!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
   var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a);
   for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++)
   {
   var anchor = anchors[i];
   if (anchor.getAttribute(href) 
anchor.getAttribute(rel)
 ==
 help)
   {
   anchor.setAttribute(
 onclick,window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scr
 ollbars,resizable'); return false;,0);
   }
   }
   }
 
 It works perfectly well in everything I can get my hands on except for
 IE, where it fails to set the onclick event to all A elements with a
 rel attribute of 'help'.
 
 Changing anchor.setAttribute(...) to
 anchor.setAttribute('target','_blank',0); DOES work (the link opens in
 a new window), so it would appear that IE doesn't like setting onlick
 attributes this way.
 
 Can anyone either:
 - suggest an alternate way to achieve this, or
 - suggest a good mailing list to seek further help on (like a DOM list)

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Re: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Mark Lynch
Hi Justin,

You can also use the simpler event model and add the event as follows:

anchor.onclick = function(){
  alert('anchor with rel clicked');
}

This works in both IE and Mozilla.

For more info on events in javascript the best resource I've found is
http://www.quirksmode.org

Cheers,
Mark

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:06:28 +0300, Eser 'Laroux' [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You can use attachEvent method for this. But it's supported by Internet
 Explorer 6 only.
 
 --
 a href=about:mozilla rel=helptest/a
 
 script type=text/javascript
 var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName('a');
 for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++) {
 var anchor = anchors[i];
 if (anchor.getAttribute('rel') == 'help') {
 anchor.attachEvent(
 'onclick',
 function() {
 window.open(event.srcElement.getAttribute('href'),'popupwindow','width=400,h
 eight=400,scrollbars=1,resizable=1'); return false; }
 );
 }
 }
 /script
 
 
  -Original Message-
  Here's a function:
 
  function helpLinks()
{
if(!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a);
for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++)
{
var anchor = anchors[i];
if (anchor.getAttribute(href) 
 anchor.getAttribute(rel)
  ==
  help)
{
anchor.setAttribute(
  onclick,window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scr
  ollbars,resizable'); return false;,0);
}
}
}
 
  It works perfectly well in everything I can get my hands on except for
  IE, where it fails to set the onclick event to all A elements with a
  rel attribute of 'help'.
 
  Changing anchor.setAttribute(...) to
  anchor.setAttribute('target','_blank',0); DOES work (the link opens in
  a new window), so it would appear that IE doesn't like setting onlick
  attributes this way.
 
  Can anyone either:
  - suggest an alternate way to achieve this, or
  - suggest a good mailing list to seek further help on (like a DOM list)
 
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Re: [WSG] Job Posting

2004-08-19 Thread Mark Harwood
Good Morning Marc,

Just want to ask before i reply but would you be tempted by someone oversea's? Im
willing to relocate just dont know all the in's and out's of if i would be able
to or not straight away?!

Anyway thought id ask first before i submit my resume to you.

Many Thanks
Mark Harwood
http://phunky.co.uk
http://zinkmedia.co.uk

On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:03 , Marc Greenstock [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:

I know it's not common for this list to hold job postings although we are
really desperate to find someone here.

From: http://jobs.careerone.com.au/search/dsp_show_job.cfm\?AD_ID=1235550

Shock Media Studios, (www.shockmedia.com.au)
an Advertising and Information Technology based company, is seeking a
qualified full-time Programmer with a high level of commitment to provision
of consistently high standards of client service to join our Brisbane
studio.

The Candidate.
The successful candidate will plan and develop websites, intranet, content
management (CMS), eCommerce and data management systems, maintain and expand
a number of established corporate websites and provide in-house information
technology expertise.

To be successful in this position you need to meet the following minimum
criteria;

using PHP technology, MySql, JavaScript, CSS  HTML/XHTML;
standards;

The Application.

Via Email. Email your resume and cover letter to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Mike Foskett
IE does not like setAttribute onClick.
I had a similar problem recently. 
I solved it by using the correct method first (as yours) then adding a function to 
deal with IE after it.

function onclickIE(idAttr,handler,call){
if ((document.all)(document.getElementById)){idAttr[handler]=new 
Function(call)}
}


Hope that helps


mike 2k:)2
 
marqueeblink mike foskett /marquee/blink
 
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-Original Message-
From: Justin French [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 19 August 2004 07:22
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?


Here's a function:

function helpLinks()
{
if(!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a);
for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++)
{
var anchor = anchors[i];
if (anchor.getAttribute(href)  anchor.getAttribute(rel) ==  
help)
{
anchor.setAttribute( 
onclick,window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scr 
ollbars,resizable'); return false;,0);
}
}
}

It works perfectly well in everything I can get my hands on except for  
IE, where it fails to set the onclick event to all A elements with a  
rel attribute of 'help'.

Changing anchor.setAttribute(...) to  
anchor.setAttribute('target','_blank',0); DOES work (the link opens in  
a new window), so it would appear that IE doesn't like setting onlick  
attributes this way.

Can anyone either:
- suggest an alternate way to achieve this, or
- suggest a good mailing list to seek further help on (like a DOM list)


---
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http://indent.com.au

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RE: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Patrick Lauke
I'd suggest using Scott Andrews' addEvent helper function
(see http://www.scottandrew.com/weblog/articles/cbs-events)

function addEvent(obj, evType, fn, useCapture){
  if (obj.addEventListener){
obj.addEventListener(evType, fn, useCapture);
return true;
  } else if (obj.attachEvent){
var r = obj.attachEvent(on+evType, fn);
return r;
  } else {
alert(Handler could not be attached);
  }
}

This has worked for me quite consistently in the past.

Patrick

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Re: [WSG] DOM setAttribute in IE?

2004-08-19 Thread Dan Webb
Also, if you assign the event using the way below (detailed by Mark) the keyword
this would refer to the link so you could do this:

anchor.onclick = function(){
window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scrollbars=1,resizable=1');
return false;
}

rather than using event.srcElement to get the href.  DO NOT USE attachEvent
unless you only intend this event to occur for IE.  It's non-standard - we
should be working to get rid of non-standard JavaScript as well as HTML and
CSS.  Finally, theres no need to use setAttribute().  The better way is to
reference the property directly as each link is also a Link object that makes
these properties available.  It's simpler and more reliable cross browser. 
Here's how Id rewrite it:

script type=text/javascript
 var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName('a');
 for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++) {
 if (anchors[i].rel == 'help') anchors[i].onclick =
function(){
window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scrollbars=1,resizable=1');
return false;
};  
 }
 /script

I think now we've established standards and good practice for HTML and CSS, DOM
scripting is still overlooked.  PPK has established some pretty good practices
but we need to go further.  If anyone else has an interest in this get in
contact as I'd like to take it forward in some way.

Cheers,

Dan Webb
http://www.danwebb.net

Quoting Mark Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Hi Justin,
 
 You can also use the simpler event model and add the event as follows:
 
 anchor.onclick = function(){
   alert('anchor with rel clicked');
 }
 
 This works in both IE and Mozilla.
 
 For more info on events in javascript the best resource I've found is
 http://www.quirksmode.org
 
 Cheers,
 Mark
 
 On Thu, 19 Aug 2004 10:06:28 +0300, Eser 'Laroux' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  You can use attachEvent method for this. But it's supported by Internet
  Explorer 6 only.
  
  --
  a href=about:mozilla rel=helptest/a
  
  script type=text/javascript
  var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName('a');
  for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++) {
  var anchor = anchors[i];
  if (anchor.getAttribute('rel') == 'help') {
  anchor.attachEvent(
  'onclick',
  function() {
 
 window.open(event.srcElement.getAttribute('href'),'popupwindow','width=400,h
  eight=400,scrollbars=1,resizable=1'); return false; }
  );
  }
  }
  /script
  
  
   -Original Message-
   Here's a function:
  
   function helpLinks()
 {
 if(!document.getElementsByTagName) return;
 var anchors = document.getElementsByTagName(a);
 for (var i=0; ianchors.length; i++)
 {
 var anchor = anchors[i];
 if (anchor.getAttribute(href) 
  anchor.getAttribute(rel)
   ==
   help)
 {
 anchor.setAttribute(
   onclick,window.open(this.href,'popupwindow','width=400,height=400,scr
   ollbars,resizable'); return false;,0);
 }
 }
 }
  
   It works perfectly well in everything I can get my hands on except for
   IE, where it fails to set the onclick event to all A elements with a
   rel attribute of 'help'.
  
   Changing anchor.setAttribute(...) to
   anchor.setAttribute('target','_blank',0); DOES work (the link opens in
   a new window), so it would appear that IE doesn't like setting onlick
   attributes this way.
  
   Can anyone either:
   - suggest an alternate way to achieve this, or
   - suggest a good mailing list to seek further help on (like a DOM list)
  
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[WSG] off topic, but needed. are there any struts users?

2004-08-19 Thread Ted Drake
Hi everyone.
I just wanted to know if there are any struts users that could answer a question for 
me off the list.  We are having a problem with pages that have more than one form on 
them.  The valditing javascripts are conflicting.
If there are any struts users that might have an idea how to solve this, please send 
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Re: [WSG]RSS

2004-08-19 Thread Neerav
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[WSG] cutoff bug in Safari?

2004-08-19 Thread Kay Smoljak
Hi guys,

I'm seeing a problem in Safari (1.2.3) - the kind of thing I would
expect from IE :)

The footer of my template isn't displaying. On long pages, the bottom
of the text is cut off too - halfway through a line in fact. The
scrollbar just won't go any further, and selecting the text and trying
to drag down doesn't work either.

The layout is a simple single column fixed width affair using absolute
positioning to stuff the main navigation and masthead fluff down the
bottom, out of the way of search engines. I've cut everything right
down to the basics but I still can't see it, and Google is not being
helpful. Has anyone seen anything like this before?

http://203.59.70.252/wsg/

Thanks for any advice or pointers!

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[WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-19 Thread Ben Bishop
19 Aug 2004 - The Attorney General of New York has deemed parts of
Ramada.com and Priceline.com inaccessible to assistive technology.

The Attorney General opined that the Americans With Disabilities Act
requires that private web sites be accessible to blind and visually
impaired Internet users.

Settlements reached will attempt to make both sites more accessible.

Under the terms of the agreements, the companies will implement a
range of accessibility standards authored by the Web Accessibility
Initiative (WAI) of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), an
organization that recommends Internet standards.

The companies must also implement a wide variety of other
initiatives, based on guidelines authored by the W3C.

In addition to the steps outline above, Ramada.com and Priceline.com
will pay the State of New York $40,000 and $37,500, respectively, as
costs of the investigation. The Attorney General emphasized that once
the companies were notified of the accessibility issues by his office,
they worked cooperatively and creatively with his Internet Bureau to
correct the issues.

Attorney General's Press Release
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/aug/aug19a_04.html

Sandy Clark's comments
http://www.shayna.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=78672CBF-CABE-65E3-306A96044957F88C

John Dowdell's comments
http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005883.cfm
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Re: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-19 Thread Cameron Adams
Wow, that's big.

Did we resolve whether Australian legislation has the
potential for similar effects?

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--- Ben Bishop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 19 Aug 2004 - The Attorney General of New York has
 deemed parts of
 Ramada.com and Priceline.com inaccessible to
 assistive technology.
 
 The Attorney General opined that the Americans With
 Disabilities Act
 requires that private web sites be accessible to
 blind and visually
 impaired Internet users.
 
 Settlements reached will attempt to make both sites
 more accessible.
 
 Under the terms of the agreements, the companies
 will implement a
 range of accessibility standards authored by the Web
 Accessibility
 Initiative (WAI) of the World Wide Web Consortium
 (W3C), an
 organization that recommends Internet standards.
 
 The companies must also implement a wide variety of
 other
 initiatives, based on guidelines authored by the
 W3C.
 
 In addition to the steps outline above, Ramada.com
 and Priceline.com
 will pay the State of New York $40,000 and $37,500,
 respectively, as
 costs of the investigation. The Attorney General
 emphasized that once
 the companies were notified of the accessibility
 issues by his office,
 they worked cooperatively and creatively with his
 Internet Bureau to
 correct the issues.
 
 Attorney General's Press Release

http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/aug/aug19a_04.html
 
 Sandy Clark's comments

http://www.shayna.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=78672CBF-CABE-65E3-306A96044957F88C
 
 John Dowdell's comments
 http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/005883.cfm

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RE: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name sites

2004-08-19 Thread Hill, Tim
Wow, that's big, can't believe they had to pay $40,000 that's huge.
 


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-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Ben Bishop
Sent: Friday, 20 August 2004 2:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] Unaccessible - NY Attorney General busts two big name
sites

19 Aug 2004 - The Attorney General of New York has deemed parts of
Ramada.com and Priceline.com inaccessible to assistive technology.

The Attorney General opined that the Americans With Disabilities Act
requires that private web sites be accessible to blind and visually
impaired Internet users.

Settlements reached will attempt to make both sites more accessible.

Under the terms of the agreements, the companies will implement a range
of accessibility standards authored by the Web Accessibility Initiative
(WAI) of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), an organization that
recommends Internet standards.

The companies must also implement a wide variety of other initiatives,
based on guidelines authored by the W3C.

In addition to the steps outline above, Ramada.com and Priceline.com
will pay the State of New York $40,000 and $37,500, respectively, as
costs of the investigation. The Attorney General emphasized that once
the companies were notified of the accessibility issues by his office,
they worked cooperatively and creatively with his Internet Bureau to
correct the issues.

Attorney General's Press Release
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/2004/aug/aug19a_04.html

Sandy Clark's comments
http://www.shayna.com/blog/index.cfm?mode=entryentry=78672CBF-CABE-65E3
-306A96044957F88C

John Dowdell's comments
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