Re: [WSG] Strange character encoding issue
Your server send the data as: Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 but in your code says UTF-8. The values in the http-header overwrites any values in the document. == change the content type settig on your server or == use iso-8859-1 charset in your documents and only valid chars. hope this helps. Kind regards, Stefan James Jeffery wrote: Never had a problem with character encodings on web pages, but since I reinstalled the OS on my iMac I have had an issue. Some of my characters, especially when using ' seem to mess up. This is the page, content and layout are simple as it's for a uni assignment: http://mi-linux.wlv.ac.uk/~0802390/overview.html Check out the overview.html page, and notice the issues. There is one noticeable in the overview page "‘SOAP’" Any ideas? (for those interested I do plan to publish a website regarding the Semantic Web shortly). *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
Re: [WSG] Question on servers and Email campaign
Giving anyone outside your business root access to your sever is NOT wise at all. I was previously sharing a dedicaed server with a friend that turned out to be one of the largest bot farmers in Australia, and subsequently led the server being dDOS'd. Giving these people root access leaves any other client's on the server at their mercy, and if your other client's find out, they could have ground to sue you, especially if they're under the impression or your contracted to provide secure hosting. Personally I would report them to the spam cops, 'cos to me, that's what they look like to be. I bet their software is just a set of spam bots, and could possibly be used to infect site visitor''s systems from any of the sites you host. And therefore give them more bots to use to send spam. Graphics Web Designing, LLC wrote: I am sorry to ask this question but I am very curious as to how others feel about this. I have a client that is purchasing E-mail listings from a company called expedia mail and I Was called and asked for my server's root access information so that they can download their Software onto my server for my clients email campaign. I refuse to give anyone access to MY server let alone my root access. Am I being rude and uncooperative on this or am I right? According to the lady I spoke with she claims that I am uncooperative and that they have many Companies give out there root access information to their servers. I just can NOT put my other clients at risk and give some other company access to my server Where they have full access to my server and all of my clients and my servers information and in Addition they can do as they please once I give them my root access information. Again, I would like to thank all for reading this post and I do hope this is not against WSG standards. But I am really needing confirmation that I am not losing it and that I was right in protecting My clients as well as my server. Sherri Graphic’s Web Designing, LLC (941)876-4609 (941)889-8336 Cell Have a great day. http://www.webgraphicdesigning.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] how come
在 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:20:09 +0800，kevin mcmonagle
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hi,
How come you cant change the list-type from none to circle(or anything
else) on li a:hover?
-kevin
try this
li { list-style-type:none; }
li a { display:list-item; list-style-type:circle; }
li a:hover { list-style-type:disc; }
ul
lia href=#a/a/li
lia href=#a/a/li
/ul
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Re: [WSG] how come
在 Tue, 28 Oct 2008 05:20:09 +0800，kevin mcmonagle
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hi,
How come you cant change the list-type from none to circle(or anything
else) on li a:hover?
-kevin
try this
li { list-style-type:none; }
li a { display:list-item; list-style-type:circle; }
li a:hover { list-style-type:disc; }
ul
lia href=#a/a/li
lia href=#a/a/li
/ul
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Re: [WSG] ARIA
It would be really nice, that instead of introducing more and more design element features like ARIA markup, that what is and isn't supported at different levels (HTML4 or HTML5 or XHTML), that w3c and the browser vendor's worked together to properly come to agreement on what should be used rather then what they want to make as they're own spin off. I mean, look at what IE does to CSS, and then Opera uses the standards differently although much better. At least, as far as I can tell Mozilla are the only ones to get it completely right, but then even it has it's own quirks. No, instead of developing new ways to write markup, they need to get into agreement (finally) of what the standards are truly going to be. I for one am tired of writing up code for different browser's and having to hack code around to make things work. What we need to be doing is pushing the vendor's into getting it right. James Jeffery wrote: Never really heard of ARIA until I came across it in a Web Development magazine (.net mag). I have just spent a few hours getting my head around it, and whilst I agree it looks useful for screen readers and such, isn't it less semantic? Applying attributes that would currently make your markup invalid is something which I am not happy about. Along with that, using span to create a checkbox seems less semantic than using form elements. Is ARIA markup only supposed to be used with browsers who have JS enabled or sites that use alot of JS for dynamic content? What about browsers that don't support ARIA markup? I'm only dipping my feet in the water at the moment so I probably don't fully understand, but from what I have read so far it seems a bit wishy washy at the moment. Any replies appreciated. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] ie7 and firefox
i have a search form and
#formdiv{
text-align:right;
padding:3px;
padding-right:4px;
}
#formdivtext{
border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
margin-right:2px;
}
my css file is this.
But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for my
claim!
what can i do to organize it?
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Re: [WSG] ie7 and firefox
ok, i tried it. thank you! it is suitable a bit. But not completely.
According to you which browser is better to try web site. i rarely look my
web site in ie. is firefox enough?
2008/3/25, Kyle Hudson [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Try resetting your page with an example such as:
* {
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.25px;
}
etc.
Also is your browser in standards or quirks mode?
You gave a brief description and no XHTML, this may help us more.
Kyle
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Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCÝ
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*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
*Subject:* [WSG] ie7 and firefox
i have a search form and
#formdiv{
text-align:right;
padding:3px;
padding-right:4px;
}
#formdivtext{
border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
margin-right:2px;
}
my css file is this.
But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for
my claim!
what can i do to organize it?
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Re: [WSG] ie7 and firefox
Maybe but i am is new coder :D
2008/3/25, Joseph Ortenzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
or maybe your border attribute needs a diaper? ;-)
#formdivtext{
border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
margin-right:2px;
}
Joe
On Mar 25, 2008, at 13:22, Kyle Hudson wrote:
Try resetting your page with an example such as:
* {
margin: 0px;
padding: 0px;
line-height: 1.25px;
}
etc.
Also is your browser in standards or quirks mode?
You gave a brief description and no XHTML, this may help us more.
Kyle
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] *On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]@R KULEKCÝ
*Sent:* 25 March 2008 13:06
*To:* wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
*Subject:* [WSG] ie7 and firefox
i have a search form and
#formdiv{
text-align:right;
padding:3px;
padding-right:4px;
}
#formdivtext{
border:1px #BCBCBC soild;
margin-right:2px;
}
my css file is this.
But in ie7 form height is very big but in firefox height is suitable for
my claim!
what can i do to organize it?
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Re: [WSG] data generator
i think very good resource. thanks! 2008/2/23, Thierry Koblentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is pretty cool tool to generate volume of any kind of data (it even includes SQL options) http://www.generatedata.com -- Regards, Thierry | http://www.TJKDesign.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
[WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS
Thanks everyone for your suggestions. I haven't had a chance to look at it
but plan on tomorrow.
tg
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From: Likely, James A.
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 9:38 AM
Subject: RE: [WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS
Hello,
The problem is that you are using absolute positioning for the
.gallerycontainer and on your browser I am sure that it looks fine but
if the user or client has the resolution set lower then everything gets
moved except for the content that is in .gallerycontainer. Try to resize
your browser and see what happens.
A suggestions is to try something like this
http://wisconsin.joekiosk.com/testing/test.html
The other problem you were having is that you were positioning the
larger image based on your browser size.
Hope this helps.
James
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Sent: Sunday, February 10, 2008 11:41 PM
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS
Hello,
I have a site here that I've been trying to add some pictures to. I
have
IE7 and Firefox and it looks good but my client is seeing things
different
with her IE. The pictures at the bottom, 6 of them should be lined up
all
in a row but are not. I put the code I am using inside the page and in
this email.
Can someone take a look and let me know if they can see what is going on
here.
Thanks.tg
Here is the link:
http://www.rejuvenatespas.com/test.html
*///
///
style type=text/css
.gallerycontainer{
position: absolute;
/*Add a height attribute and set to largest image's height to prevent
overlaying*/
left: 430px;
}
.thumbnail img{
border: 1px solid white;
margin: 0 5px 5px 0;
}
.thumbnail:hover{
background-color: transparent;
}
.thumbnail:hover img{
border: 1px solid gray;
}
.thumbnail span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
position: absolute;
background-color: lightyellow;
padding: 5px;
left: -1000px;
border: 1px dashed black;
visibility: hidden;
color: black;
text-decoration: none;
}
.thumbnail span img{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
border-width: 0;
padding: 2px;
}
.thumbnail:hover span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
visibility: visible;
bottom: 0;
left: 300px; /*position where enlarged image should offset horizontally
*/
z-index: 50;
}
/style
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[WSG] help with picture alignment in CSS
Hello,
I have a site here that I've been trying to add some pictures to. I have
IE7 and Firefox and it looks good but my client is seeing things different
with her IE. The pictures at the bottom, 6 of them should be lined up all
in a row but are not. I put the code I am using inside the page and in
this email.
Can someone take a look and let me know if they can see what is going on
here.
Thanks.tg
Here is the link:
http://www.rejuvenatespas.com/test.html
*///
///
style type=text/css
.gallerycontainer{
position: absolute;
/*Add a height attribute and set to largest image's height to prevent
overlaying*/
left: 430px;
}
.thumbnail img{
border: 1px solid white;
margin: 0 5px 5px 0;
}
.thumbnail:hover{
background-color: transparent;
}
.thumbnail:hover img{
border: 1px solid gray;
}
.thumbnail span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
position: absolute;
background-color: lightyellow;
padding: 5px;
left: -1000px;
border: 1px dashed black;
visibility: hidden;
color: black;
text-decoration: none;
}
.thumbnail span img{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
border-width: 0;
padding: 2px;
}
.thumbnail:hover span{ /*CSS for enlarged image*/
visibility: visible;
bottom: 0;
left: 300px; /*position where enlarged image should offset horizontally */
z-index: 50;
}
/style
*///
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Re: [WSG] standards-compliant designers
That's a great idea, I think i'll do that too. it's really annoying that people disregard the fact that there are other browsers out there, and make their site solely for ie6 and they don't even think about validating it... But your idea is good, to tell them about it will hopefully bring a change, especially if it gets a following and more people do it. On Jan 12, 2008 3:34 PM, Viable Design [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is blame to go around, for sure. I had an accessibility issue just this morning, while trying to find out about filing an insurance claim on my husband's car (which someone ran into in the middle of the night ... and took off). In Firefox, my browser of choice, the text on the page I needed was overlapping, and many of the links were not clickable. I switched to IE, and the page was totally fine; everything was in perfect working order. I couldn't help but check the source code, and of course, it was designed using tables. There were 187 errors, according to the W3C validation service. I e-mailed the company and received a quick reply that they had recently discovered an error that was preventing a small number of customers from accessing their claim information. Pretty generic, as expected. The company is customer-service based, according to its policies and my experience, so why would the powers that be within it not choose to make its Web site accessible to all? It's not like they don't have the money to make it happen. I propose that most people would choose not to inform them of the difficulties they have in the first place. It reminds me of the days (long ago!) when I was a waitress. Most of the customers who had a bad experience due to the food or the service (from other waitresses, of course!) wouldn't complain or explain; they'd merely pay their bills and leave, never to return, intent on informing everyone they knew about that awful restaurant. And then I think about how many times I personally have chosen to just let bad experiences go in fast-food restaurants, convenience stores, gas stations. The girl who jerked my money out of my hand with a scowl on her face and no thank-you. The guy who took five minutes to wait on me because he was too busy on his cell phone. I have gone to the manager sometimes, but most of the time, I just consider it too much hassle and let it go. The same is surely true of Internet experiences, I propose, at an exponentially greater rate of occurrence. The next page is just a click away. If it's a page that must be accessed, however, as in my insurance experience this morning, it's a different story, of course. But most of the time, I personally simply leave the site and make a note of what not to do. I'm self-taught. I sorted through HTML as a sort of grief therapy when I'd lost my baby (and almost gone with him) in 1999 and was out of work for months. I began learning about CSS more than three years ago and only learned about accessibility/Web standards within the last couple of years. But I'm diligently learning as much as I can (with three kids and a full-time teaching job that invariably comes home with me most days...). I'm going to make it my personal goal to begin contacting the people who make sites that aren't accessible to let them know in what way I had difficulty using their site. Not in a lofty, condescending way, but in a I thought you may want to know way. Maybe they won't care. Maybe they'll be offended. Maybe they won't get it at all. Maybe it won't do any good. But maybe it will. Jo Hawke http://www.viabledesign.com On Jan 9, 2008 8:59 PM, Matthew Barben [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I tend to agree with Mark. IT guys in my experience tend not to be 'joiners' you work in a corporate IT department and you will quickly realise that people use terms like 'Crypt' and 'Beige' I have worked from both sides of the fence as both an indepentant but also as the main web guy within a large organisation. Yes there are situations where we have had to use external vendors to design websites purely because they have to resources to deliver quickly...and I can see how these agencies can produce very poor code and have the business owner say 'yes'. But there are also organisations where they will impose a set of design guidelines upon these firms and really put the pressure on them to deliver (especially is industries where you are an essential service and need to deliver to a wide audience of both abled and disabled people). Does it make the firm a bunch of non-compliant designers...perhaps. But I say for every poorly design website, there is someone who says 'Yes that is what I want' or 'that'll do'. Steve Green wrote: Of course I made up that 1% figure but I don't suppose it's far out. Just look at the phenomenal number of crap websites out there. There are something like 100,000 people offering web design services
Re: [WSG] Developing for Mac Browsers
There are some differences between the windows versions and the mac versions, but if it works on windows, it is very likely it will work on mac as well. But aside from buying a mac, you can try to use an emulator or a virtual machine and test the website from there. You can also try to use this site (browsershots) http://browsershots.org/. Good Luck! On Jan 13, 2008 7:51 AM, Peter Mount [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I'm tossing up whether to buy a Mac or to save my money and buy a new PC and just have Linux and Windows on it. I've read that Safari for Windows will help Web Developers without a Mac be able to develop for that. Is there a difference between Mac versions of browsers like Firefox and Safari or can I safely develop in non Mac versions and expect my web sites to behave the same on the Mac? Currently my main OS is Kubuntu but I'll soon be trialling Red Hat Desktop 5 Multi OS. Thanks -- Peter Mount Web Development for Business Mobile: 0411 276602 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.petermount.com *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: please avoid forcing people to open pdf in browser! was Re: [WSG] To target or not
Maybe you should try Foxit Reader 2.0 http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php PDF's won't be going away anytime soon, particularly from Government websites. There is also zero chance of having all PDF's done as HTML due to staffing and time constraints. The best you'll get is a link to an RTF/DOC and PDF version with some as HTML. What really bugs me are the people who supply the content with large hi res pictures in the PDF and get annoyed when we send it back saying shrink it. We manage to keep the majority of them under 3 MB (preferably 1MB or less) but that is a losing battle for some PDF's. Brett. On Fri Jul 20 10:57 , 'Michael MD' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent: I'm all about "web conventions." I didn't realize having a blank target didn't follow web standards. Is that documented somewhere? This one still bothers me ... The alternatives I've seen invariably require _javascript_ and some of those _javascript_ methods give the user less choice and are also not well suited for user-generated content (often created with wysiwyg editors) I'm seeing a very annoying trend lately where quite a few sites are forcing pdf's to open in a new browser window with _javascript_. I do not think it is acceptable to force people to wait over a minute with a locked up browser for a slow plugin to start without warning! - at least give them the option to right-click and download it for offline viewing! (or better don't use pdf - use html! ) Government-related sites seem to be the worst offenders - They seem to have almost everything as pdf Until they fix browsers to not lock up while loading slow plugins or they fix acrobat reader to start more quickly I'll continue to regard sites that force people to view pdfs in a browser as being about on about the same level as those nasty porn sites with endless chains of popup windows. *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** ) ***List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfmUnsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfmHelp: [EMAIL PROTECTED]***
RE: [WSG] Tiling image problem
It depends the kind of layout you have.
The best and the easiest way to have the 300px in ur bg image itself,
eahtever clor you want.
regards
-P
www.puneetsakhuja.com/new
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From: Cole Kuryakin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 21 May 2007 13:18:17 +0800
To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org
Subject: [WSG] Tiling image problem
Hello All -
I'm setting a 1px by 770px image to repeat vertically within a wrapper div.
Difference is that I need this repeat to START 300px from the top of the
wrapper.
So far, no luck. Here's the code:
#wrapper {
position: relative;
width: 770px;
margin: 0 auto;
text-align: left;
background:
url(/resources/5661/assets/images_medical/wrapper_tile.jpg) repeat-y 0
300px;
}
Reason I'm starting off at 300px from the top is because I need the top of
the wrapper to be transparent so the tiling body background can be seen
above and below the header, but the area behind the nav and content areas
NEED to be white.
So, is it possible to start a tile a certain distance from the top of a
containing div?
If so, can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
If you'd like to see this live, look here: http://teratest.terapad.com
Thanks to all in advance!
Cole
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Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question
I believe what Jermayn is asking to keep the web standards intact, without opening a new window, as accessibility doesnt allow us to open pages in new window. suggestions ? regards -P Original Message: - From: Nirmal Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:21:43 +0530 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] wa state guidlines question Hi, You can use this code to open the pdf in a new window ... a link target=_blank href=pdf file name(eg: OReilly.Head.First.Object.Oriented.Analysis.and.Design.Nov.2006.pdf)click here/a Thanks On 5/9/07, Jermayn Parker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi group, This may only relate to Western Australian people but someone else may know... I have a page that has links to a pdf and the client wanted to know whether it can be linked to a new window or not. They dont really care about best practises etc but rather what the state Internet guidlines are. I have looked through the 107 page doco but cannot find anything. Thanks for you rhelp Jermayn The above message has been scanned and meets the Insurance Commission of Western Australia's Email security policy requirements for outbound transmission. This email (facsimile) and any attachments may be confidential and privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this email (facsimile) is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email (facsimile) in error please contact the Insurance Commission. Web: www.icwa.wa.gov.au Phone: +61 08 9264 * *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] 50px right margin
Thanks again. Just a couple of questions : I am using this javascript scroll in my web site, but if I am trying to use LightBox also to open the images, the script is clashing with the scroll script. And if I try to remove the scroll script, the LiteBox works fine... you suggestions on this ? Regards -P Original Message: - From: Nirmal Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:13:00 +0530 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] 50px right margin Hi Your site looks great especially that scrolling when you click a link in top menu Thanks On 5/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks a lot nirmal. Much appreciated. However, my updated website URL is www.puneetsakhuja.com/new Have a look at it and will be waiting for your valuable inputs. Thanks again Puneet Sakhuja Original Message: - From: Nirmal Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 13:43:47 +0530 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] 50px right margin Hi, I have analysed your stylesheet and found that you have used margin in styles without specifying the width in that case there arises browser incompatibilities. You can use padding instead of margin and your bug is fixed Thanks On 5/10/07, Stuart Sherwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can anyone tell me what is causing this 50px right margin on #showcase in IE6? http://webdev.latrobe.edu.au/40years/gallery2.htm *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** mail2web.com Enhanced email for the mobile individual based on Microsoft(r) Exchange - http://link.mail2web.com/Personal/EnhancedEmail *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** mail2web LIVE Free email based on Microsoft® Exchange technology - http://link.mail2web.com/LIVE *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
RE: [WSG] 100% height
Hope this will solve the problem: http://www.xs4all.nl/~peterned/examples/csslayout1.html regards Puneet Original Message: - From: Bob Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 14:41:10 +0200 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] 100% height Here's my problem: I need to have all the pages on a site fill the page at 100% of page height if lots of content or 100% of browser window iif short on content with the footer sitting nicely at the bottom in both cases in both IE 6 and IE7. Something I had no problems with until IE7 rolled out. I have searched around the web and not found anything I would consider THE solution. As I'm sure IE7 has done this to others, has anyone found a reliable solution? Thanks, Bob *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
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[WSG] help with page...
I have a question. I am using Navstudio for menus and I am having a problem with it overflowing and making me have a scroll at the bottom. Can anyone take a look and see what my problem might be. I'll go ahead and say it now, but it is not up to standards, it is still in the beginning. Thankstg http://www.seaycointegrators.com/kelly/test/lollypop.html mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n!
Fake Google Toolbars Spreading Identity Theft Beware of guests bearing Google Toolbars. That's because a series of phishing probes are making the rounds that deliver a faked version. Install the real-looking software, and your credit cards and other personal information are captured, then transmitted to a shadowy group of criminals. We've got details on how the scam works, and what to look out for, in our security alert. Beware Fake Toolbars: http://ct.eletters.whatsnewnow.com/rd/cts?d=181-544-1-278-911239-26861-0-0-0-1 On 10/6/05, Buddy Quaid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Weird, i cant get to the site...i think it's blocking my ISP or something. I tried ping and nothing, i could trace and ping from an outside website but not from my machine. Buddy Drake, Ted C. wrote: Hi buddy The link got mangled, try www.tdrake.net it's the first post. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Buddy Quaid Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:52 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugi n! Your website will not pull up for me. Buddy Drake, Ted C. wrote: I didn't have room for all of them but I've added most of the sites below. Ted From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of bit Sent: Thursday, October 06, 2005 1:15 PM To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] Stop the Presses! Announcing the supercool search plugin! hi all, maybe some suggestions for the ff-toolbar ... http://www.sitepoint.com/ http://digital-web.com/ http://cssplay.co.uk/ http://tanfa.co.uk/ http://www.stylegala.com/ http://kottke.org/ http://www.wpdfd.com/ nice greetings from vienna :) 2005/10/6, Drake, Ted C. [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi All As many of you may have seen, I created a search plugin for Alistapart.com that allows you to search their posts for information. That was just the tip of the iceberg. I really wanted to create something that would allow me to search all of my favorite coding resources without having to wade through outdated posts, spam, etc in a typical search. Chris Pederick comes to the rescue today with a post about Rollyo, a personalized search engine portal.Well, today, I created a standards-based web portal and then made a cool plugin. Go to my web site: http://www.tdrake.net/standards-based-web-development-resources-made-even-ea sier/ to download the standardista plugin. You can now search all of these sites from the comfort of your firefox toolbar: * alistapart.com * w3.org * simplebits.com * meyerweb.com * stuffandnonsense.co.uk * shauninman.c... * splintered.co.uk * stopdesign.com * andybudd.com * jasonsantamaria.com * accessify.com * clagnut.com * 456bereastreet.com * quirksmode.org * tantek.com * positioniseverything.net * tdrake.net * zeldman.com * webstandards group P.S.I also let the cat out of the bag in this post that I begin working with Yahoo in a week. If you have my email address in your computer, you may want to update it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]. P.S.S. I can add 6 more web sites to the search query. Send me your suggestions. ** The discussion list forhttp://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Software is like Sex - it's better when it's free ... (Linus Torvalds) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Brian Ussery[EMAIL PROTECTED]beta testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] b e ussery imagery co.http://www.beussery.com706.296.3446905.935.4396fbe unlimited! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesamp;id=2255amp;t=47
Re: [WSG] Newbie Q: Menu standard/usability/accessibility question
Craig, Looks really good! As far as valid W3C code only 15 issues http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Falgester.communitybillboard.info%2F which is nothing compared to more than 200 at http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com The biggest problem is easy! In your meta data change the end of the line from xhtml ...Algester, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia / to html ...Algester, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia The site seems very friendly to the user and is logical. As far as more information on web standards, usability and accessibility check out: The Art and Science of Web Design by Jeff Veen (veen.com) This book is five years old but still one of the very best. You can buy it online for $40 USD or download it here free: http://veen.com/artsci/veen-artsci.pdf also http://www.useit.com/ http://trace.wisc.edu/ http://www.w3c.org http://www.ittatc.org/ http://www.stanford.edu/services/techtraining/techbriefings/web_standards/ http://www.webstandards.org/ http://www.webstandardsawards.com/ http://www.w3schools.com/ Good luck, Brian On 8/3/05, Craig Rippon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, I am a web development student at a TAFE college in Brisbane, Australia. Very new to web standards and usability and accessibility. If you have time, could you tell me how the menus at http://Algester.CommunityBillboard.info stack up in regards of usability. Many thanks for your time Craig Rippon Brisbane, Australia -- Brian Ussery [EMAIL PROTECTED] beta testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] b e ussery imagery co. http://www.beussery.com 706.296.3446 905.935.4396f be unlimited! http://www.spreadfirefox.com/community/?q=affiliatesamp;id=2255amp;t=47 ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] inline-block support?
This doesn't quite answer your question - but if you want to test on a MAC and don't have one I found a resource yesterday... http://danvine.com/icapture/ It's not as good as the others I suppose but it is free. Heather Original Message: - From: kemie guaida [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 15:42:01 +0200 To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] inline-block support? I was sure that there was some major browser not implementing display:inline-block, but in a quick test firefox 1.03, Opera 7 8 and even IE 6 are interpreting it correctly.I have yet to test on a mac, but that would seem to cover a lot of users. Anything I'm missing? Any recent documentation on browser support? thanks Kemie ...:| kemie |:... .:| www.monolinea.com http://www.monolinea.com |:. mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
[WSG] (No subject header)
IE Compliant --- Why would u advertise that!?!?! Weird Shaun Johnson IT Technician Waddesdon CE School [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: IE Compliant (was RE: [WSG] (No subject header))
My bad, it was early this morning, i was a little hung
over!!
It was in relation to the deepbrowser that some one posted
about, they wanted to know if it was just a wrapper for IE.
The website advertises the fact that there browser is IE
compliant.
I was under the impression that IE compliance meant that it
was as buggy and bad at rendering HTML.
The fact that the subject line was missing is pure user
error. For that i can only apologise.
Shaun Johnson
IE Compliant --- Why would u advertise that!?!?!
Weird
Aeh...so, what's this in relation to? A proper subject
line, or maybe even a bit of context, would help...
Without any further information, assuming this is a thread
starter rather than a reply to some previous conversation,
I'd say: you advertise it (for a certain CSS technique or
whatever) to signify that it will actually work in the
dominant, most commonly used browser, and it's not
something that only the enlightened elite will be able to
use/appreciate...?
Patrick
Patrick H. Lauke
Webmaster / University of Salford
http://www.salford.ac.uk
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Re: [WSG] site check please - Rowing History
congrats, very nice design :) 2 errors in home page http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23-championships/index.html cheers Daniel http://www.gizax.it Hope Stewart wrote: I've been working on a huge site for over a year and it still has a long way to go. Unfortunately, I had not heard about Web Standards until well after starting this site, but it's never too late! The latest section I'm about to add to the site is totally CSS and not a table in sight, except for tabular data. And after several days of trying, I finally got Suckerfish drop down menus to work. (Drop down menus are a non-negotiable requirement of the client, as is the huge sponsor's logo at the top of each page.) It is very important that this site be accessible and last well into the future -- unlike a commercial site, it is unlikely to get a major re-design every few years. So, I'd be very interested hear your comments. The design is very basic, but I've never claimed to be a graphic designer! The new draft section (on the World Under 23 Rowing Championships) can be found at: http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/world-u23-championships/index.html Compare this to my original bandwidth-hungry, table-orientated layout: http://www.rowinghistory-aus.info/olympic-games/index.html I have been unable to test the new pages in Opera/win and IE5/win, so would be grateful if someone could have a look for me, particularly in regards to the drop-downs. The drop-downs do not work in IE5.2/mac, but each of the first level links will go to a page containing all the links in the drop-downs. So, accessibility is not reliant on the drop-downs. Regards, Hope Stewart ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Drop Down Menu Hack for IE
I think that is the same problem of hybrid dropdown CSS you can fix it with javascript function http://www.alistapart.com/articles/hybrid/ cheers Daniel http://www.gizax.it Joshua Leung wrote: Hi all, i am working on a drop down menu and can get it working fine in Firefox 1.0 but not in Internet Explorer. I followed the example seen on alistapart here: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/horizdropdowns/ I cannot seem to isolate the IE Hack to just work on my menu DIV, and not work on the whole page. I have put in a sample list in the content DIV of my page, to show the problem. In Firefox, the LI and UL tags are not affected in the content DIV, but in IE, they are. What can i do to fix this? Site: http://www.triplejosh.com/liftshop/index.html CSS: http://www.triplejosh.com/liftshop/styles/global.css Javascript: http://www.triplejosh.com/liftshop/menu.js Any ideas would be greatly appreciated! Cheers, Joshua Leung [ [EMAIL PROTECTED] ] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] newspaper format
Bob, Looks good on Mac (OSX 10.3.8 15 inch G4 PowerBook Firefox / Safari) and PC (XP Firefox / IE). 3 col xhtml is tricky, I know! In case you are interested in an actual 3 column newspaper website in xhtml check out the San Francisco Examiner at http://www.sfexaminer.com/ . Good Luck, Brian On 4/14/05, designer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys and gals, I have been trying to present the information relating to a novel in a more interesting style than 'just text' or indeed three columns, and have experimented with a sort of newspaper style. The newspaper is a fictitious one which is mentioned often in the novel, and my effort can be seen (in isolation from the rest of the site) at: http://www.treyarnon.fsworld.co.uk/bren/newspaper/news.html The original design I produced and am modifying can be seen at www.novelnovella.com . I have used floats (of course!) and the 'layout is supposed to work like: banner header leftcol rightcol banner leftcol rightcol etc I would be most grateful for any general feedback : does it work as a design? Does it work (esp on MAC) as it's supposed to? Is there anything glaringly bad about it? You get the idea. It works for me in FF1.0, IE6, IE5.5, Opera 7, all on PC. Many thanks, Bob McClelland, Cornwall (U.K.) www.gwelanmor-internet.co.uk ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Brian Ussery [EMAIL PROTECTED] b e ussery imagery co. http://www.beussery.com 706.296.3446 905.935.4396f be unlimited! ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] New member introduction
Hi Tee, and welcome to WSG. Nice website ;)) cheers, Daniel http://www.gizax.it tee wrote: Hi I'd just joined this group, thought it's polite to introduce myself. My name is tee. I am new to web design and interested in web standards/ accessibility. I am very happy to find WSG from google seach just an hour ago. And I happened to launch my site yesterday :) Regards, Tee www.lotusseeds.com ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] why, why, why, --firefox glich--
You could try a div before the welcome1.gif and close it after back
to top of page. this may work.
On Mon, 28 Mar 2005 07:29:50 +0100, Kvnmcwebn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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I've been rebuilding the html of this page over and over and cant find why
the container div dosnt resize{height} to accomodate all the content in
firefox.
Below is a link to the css and page.
http://mcmonagle.biz/TESTSITE/
please help if you have time
thanks a million
kevin mcmonagle
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Re: [WSG] you've been framed!
does that work in IE. Im thinking of implementing it in my blog, atm im jus using a blogger template. see: http://nogg3r5.blogspot.com Shaun Johnson - Original Message Follows - From: Vaska.WSG [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: Re: [WSG] you've been framed! Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 14:31:03 +0100 As far as I'm concerned, when you have a great long scrolling list (for example) and you want (need) to keep the nav stuff stationary, frames represent the ONLY way to do it. The ONLY? What about: div style='width:300px;height:300px;overflow:auto;' !-- put your stuff in here -- /div That seems to work pretty well too. Iframes are perfecty fine in some situations, but don't forget about the above...it works quite well too... ;) ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** == = This email has been scanned for Virus infection by messagelabs.com == = This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2
Surely the world saw this coming. I dont think microsoft will ever be able to support n e thing ever. Half of me wonders if they even have the talent to create a browser that works. the other half knows they can, but realises they wont! Shaun Johnson - Original Message Follows - From: Jamie Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'wsg@webstandardsgroup.org' wsg@webstandardsgroup.org Subject: [WSG] IE7 isn't going to CSS2 Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 15:26:17 - http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2005/03/the-reason/ Apologies if this has been posted already == = This email has been scanned for Virus infection by messagelabs.com == = Shaun Johnson IT Technician Waddesdon CE School [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] acronym and abbr and worms
Pedantry is like chocolate. There's no such thing as enough. :) lol pix, thats so true! Shaun Johnson IT Technician Waddesdon CE School [EMAIL PROTECTED] This email has been sent from the Buckinghamshire LEA system if you have cause for complaint regarding the content of this email please contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] Gnews - THREAD CLOSED
I don't understand your answer. I think that is a check for a new product that respects all w3c technology. What is strange? I don't know sincerely. regards Daniel http://www.gizax.it Mark Stanton wrote: Guys I really can't see how this dicussion relates to web standards. This is an ad for a product. Sure the output validates and there are W3C logos in the footer, but seriously ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] IE: why are you so...
good work ;)) ps = ciao piero sono gizax ^_^ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello everyone! As my first post I'd like to ask you something technical. I've got a simple div element with an unordered list inside (as you can see at www.re1.it/pierofix/justlinkit : the big gray square with all links). The div's width is set in percentage and his padding is set in px: ok, it works! In the previous version also the padding was set in percentage, but this solution makes the page a Guernica (by Picasso), with IE, OBVIOUSLY. The problem is that when I pass the mouse over one of the link in the list, the link shifts left and top (with 300 links, it seams to be in a disco!). Have you ever seen this mess before? How did you solve it? I've set the padding in px but I'm not satisfied. Thanks to all, Piero. P.S. Sorry for my english. ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] I really need MAC people to check out my CSS Zen Garden submission ... Please and Thank You!
maini, looks great and is valid xhtml 1.0 strict. On Sun, 2 Jan 2005 21:40:22 +0100, Roger Johansson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2 jan 2005, at 18.26, Mani Sheriar wrote: If anyone on a Mac cares to check this out for me and just report any issues (or, hopefully, the lack of issues) and on what browser you looked I would GREATLY appreciate it. No apparent problems in Safari. IE 5/Mac, though, has a few hundred pixels of empty space after the bottom image, causing unnecessary vertical scrolling. A quick guess is that it has something to do with the 1200 px negative margin you've specified for #container, and the rules for #extraDiv1 and #extraDiv2. The negative bottom margin on #extraDiv2 is probably what's causing it - the extra space is looks like it is 600 pixels tall. Not that I'd worry too much about IE 5/Mac. /Roger -- http://www.456bereastreet.com/ ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help ** -- Brian Ussery beta testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.beussery.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 706.296.3446 905.935.4396f ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
Re: [WSG] links with same names
you could also use a text image such as gif or jpg with an alt like: alt = Link :: LINK NAME HERE -- Brian Ussery beta testing: [EMAIL PROTECTED] b e ussery imagery co. athens - atlanta - asheville http://www.beussery.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] 706.296.3446 905.935.4396f ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] IE weird display problem
Hello,
I tried your code. What worked for me is giving the right div a
float:right; It worked for both IE6 and FF.
- regnard
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From: MirAGe01 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:11:28 -0700
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] IE weird display problem
I'm working on a page that will consist of 2 columns that will sit inside a
wrapper div container. I set the left column to float left with a width of
400px. The right column is set with a margin-left of 400px and a width of
200px. The width of the wrapper container is 600px. The right column is
getting pushed down in IE6+. If I remove the px from the width of the right
column so the style reads simply width:200; then the right column lines up
correctly with the left column. I've never heard of this before and it makes
no sense to me. You can see my code below with the problem in bold.
!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd;
html xmlns=http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml;
head
meta http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html; charset=utf-8 /
titleUntitled Document/title
style type=text/css media=screen
body {
padding:0;
margin:0;
}
#wrapper {
width:600px;
margin:10px auto;
}
#left {
float:left;
width:400px;
}
#right {
width:200; /* if I put a unit here such as px then the column doesn't
line up */
margin-left:400px;
}
/style
/head
body
div id=wrapper
div id=left
left side text
/div
div id=right
right side text
/div
/div
/body
/html
Thanks for you help.
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Re: [WSG] Slicing With Photoshop
Second, I want to know what the default layout settings, the width is. I sometimes try 800*600 but I hate it because it is too small and wanted to know what the default if for people with 1024*768 or whatever it is... I'm assuming you are asking what the best default monitor resolution you are going to lay-out your webpage for. If you look at rought stats: http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp It shows that aroung 1/3 of browsers have are using 800x600. And roughly 4/5 have either 1024x768 or 800x600. If you want a lay-out that looks ok with almost everybody, try making an 800x600 layout that can adapt to 1024x768. - regnard mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . ** The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ Proud presenters of Web Essentials 04 http://we04.com/ Web standards, accessibility, inspiration, knowledge To be held in Sydney, September 30 and October 1, 2004 See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help **
RE: [WSG] background image on a horizontal list.
Hi Lennart,
From your CSS, you could apply the width:100px to the #navlist li ID and
use float:left instead of display:inline.
Hope this helps.
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From: Lennart Fylling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 1 Sep 2004 10:56:37 +0200
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [WSG] background image on a horizontal list.
Hello there!!
I've been a member here for some time, and now I will see if I as well can
get some help from you :)
First of all, I'm a beginner so don't shoot me!!
The problem:
On my webpage, I've created an unordered horizontal list for my main
navigation, where I use some homemade buttons as background (link,
visited,hover active).
I've made those buttons 100px wide, but in the browsers I've tested them out
the hole background image is not visual .
It's a horizontal list, so I have used :{ display: inline; width: 100px;} in
the css, but the {with: 100px;}
declaration, doesn't seem to have any effect at all.
When I use {display:block; width: 100px; } it does'nt seem to be a problem
(other then the list transform in to a vertical list).
Here is the layout:
http://lennart-fylling.com
Here you can see how the buttons really look's like:
http://lennart-fylling.com/utkast2.php
I hope here are some experts in this area, who can make may day much better.
I hope you understand both my problem and my school english :)
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RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion
Id also like to add a question. How Accessible is this method? Can screen readers pick this up and convert it to the correct text? GC Original Message: - From: Jaime W [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 05:04:24 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion Mike you are a gem! This tool generates codes that validates in XHTML 1.0 DTD Strict! Is helpful and great for lazy people like me lol. Tested it and it works great. Thank you thank you very much! By the way what is the differences between ISO and Hex Conversion? Which is more secure? I choose the default which is ISO Conversion. Best Wishes, Jaime ... -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Pepper Sent: Friday, 4 June 2004 3:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion Jaime, Just use http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com/obfuscate_email.asp. Might prove useful and does it all for you, including complete mail-to strings. Mike Pepper Accessible Web Developer (with a headache because he's been on the system way too long) http://www.seowebsitepromotion.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jaime W Sent: 03 June 2004 19:35 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Anti-spam mailto encoders using Character Entity Evasion Ermm another question List fellows. Hope you guys don't mind...4th question for the past 2 weeks. I am trying to use Character Entity Evasion for mailto encoding instead of JavaScript. At times it validates and at times it doesn't. Why? I have no idea. Example of Character Entity encoded email: Decode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Encode: [EMAIL PROTECTED] com Those characters is making my xhtml 1.0 strict validation unhappy. May I know what alternatives do the rest of you use besides using JavaScript for encoding your e-mail? Contact Forms and '@ image method' or replacing '@' with 'at' method aside please. Thank you! Best Wishes, Jaime ... * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG] Standards compliant content management system.
I'm in the same situation only one step further forward. I'm considering either using the XHTML compliant Editor that is available although it looks a little unpredictable or changing my Content management system to allow the user to build up pages from components. Ie: they will select a component from a list to add to the page Paragraph, Ordered List, Quote etc. then Ill develop a css for each of these components. It limits the users ability to edit pages in the fullest terms but that could be a benefit rather than a weakness. What are others doing? GC Original Message: - From: Ned Lukies [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 1 Jun 2004 14:22:40 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Standards compliant content management system. snip What is the point of going to all the effort of making the web site standards compliant when the end user is just going to butcher the content inside it. /snip mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?
What I would like to do is, limit the browsers that see the fully styled
version of my site to the ones I know work correctly others will get the
un-styled version.
I am aware I can do this in JavaScript, is there a way to do so in CSS?
Logically I want to say:
If (ie4,5,5.5,6+, NN6, 7+ , Opera7+, Mozilla 0+ etc ){ use this style sheet
}
Elseif (NN4.7) {use this style sheet}
Else { dont use style sheet}
Thanks
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Re: [WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?
Thanks Ryan,
I was not aware of the @import and that its invisible to NN4
Are there any other browsers its invisible to? Anyone?
I am including all browsers across all platforms, I intend to create 2
style sheets, one fully styled and one semi then there is Stuff like Lynx
and screen readers that should not have the style sheet at all. Its just a
coincidence I didnt include them in my email.
I would rather use a server side script to include a specific sheet against
Brower/agent than javaScript. I was just wondering if there was a CSS
method for doing this.
Thanks for your help
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From: Ryan Christie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Sun, 30 May 2004 23:34:07 -0400
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [WSG] Correct way to swap style sheets based on Browser?
What I would like to do is, limit the browsers that see the fully styled
version of my site to the ones I know work correctly others will get the
un-styled version.
I am aware I can do this in JavaScript, is there a way to do so in CSS?
Logically I want to say:
If (ie4,5,5.5,6+, NN6, 7+ , Opera7+, Mozilla 0+ etc ){ use this style sheet
}
Elseif (NN4.7) {use this style sheet}
Else { dont use style sheet}
It appears to me that you have pretty much every modern browser we deal
with day-to-day in your allowance section there.
I wouldn't recommend the use of JavaScript for browser-sniffing. This is
a practice best left back in the dark ages of web design with Netscrape
and IE proprietry page methods.
Since in NN4 you will (presumably? yoiu didn't specify) be using the
same HTML as you would for the others, you'll only want to feed NN4 what
it can understand and hide the rest from it. There is a technique that
works very well.
Make 2 stylesheets - name one basic, and name the other modern.
Style commands that NN4 can understand/handle without
crashing/misbehaving go in the basic CSS file.
All other styles are placed into modern.
at the top of basic, import modern -- @import url(modern.css);
NN4 is unable to use the @import function, and so it will not see the
style information you have placed into modern.
In your HTML heads, use link rel=stylesheet type=text/css
media=screen href=basic.css /
There is not really an option to say Else, don't use the
stylesheets... NN4 CSS support is extremely rudimentary. Generally, I
wouldn't worry about dealing with any other browsers. However, I notice
that you haven't included on your list IE5.2 Mac or Safari, etc. and
that all those listed are on the Windows platform. If you are thinking
of blocking out the styling of your pages on these other-platformed
browsers, I would discourage it. You should be able to offer some level
of styling to Mac as well as Linux with little trouble. Browsers on
these platforms (minus IE5.x OS8/9/X) aren't too troublesome to cater to.
On a side note, another post up, developing in IE6 or FF
http://shadyland.theward.net/archives/2004/05/development_ie6_1.php
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RE: [WSG] Accessibility related
I take it from your website you are in Sydney? Thought you might like to know how legislation works in the UK. If someone has a problem they normally try to deal with it through the UK court system and therefore UK law. If they dont get an answer or the answer they didnt want they will then try to take action through the European court system and EU law. In the UK you here a lot of, taken to the European Court after a case is lost or inconclusive in the local legal system. Original Message: - From: Amit Karmakar [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 16:05:53 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] Accessibility related Looks like I've answered my own question. Here we go http://www.w3.org/WAI/Policy/Overview.html Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Amit Karmakar Sent: Thursday, 27 May 2004 2:35 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Accessibility related Howdy People, Lame as it may sound but other than the UK which other countries in Europe are complying to the Accessibility criterion? Any takers? ... and Russ, Just like we have your wonderful work on Web Standards(http://www.maxdesign.com.au/presentation/benefits/) How about creating one on Accessibility? Or if members of the WSG mailing list wish to do one?? Just bouncing off me ideas. Regards, Amit Karmakar www.karmakars.com ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * ** This message is intended for the addressee named and may contain privileged information or confidential information or both. If you are not the intended recipient please delete it and notify the sender. ** * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG]
Have a look at this its the same case Taco, but the discussion widens on the two laws that currently cover this area, ( to my knowledge ). http://www.etsi.org/cce/proceedings/5_1.htm I would guess that you are familial with the European Human Rights Bill and the Accessibility laws instituted in the last few years in Europe I would guess that anything here would be based on something similar. As a risk management issue I am sticking to what I know from Europe, hoping that this will be harder than any regulation here. GC Original Message: - From: Taco Fleur [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 07:51:08 +1000 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [WSG] Are there currently any laws in Australia that dictate a website should be accessible to vision impaired people etc.? If so, to what websites does it apply and has anyone taken any websites to court over not being accessible? What I could find so far only the following: - http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles%202000/SportsBriefs904.htm Are there any links to what standards certain websites need to apply? I believe this has been asked before however a quick scan though my mailbox did not return anything. Thanks Register now for the 3rd National Conference on Tourism Futures, being held in Townsville, North Queensland 4-6 August - www.tq.com.au/tfconf mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
RE: [WSG]
I believe Kay and Lea are both right. I would consider it to be like many other situations. They look for the Controlling Mind. i.e. the person in charge. If building a house its the house owner and the Builder (these can be companies, where the director or secretary would be responsible) not a laborer unless its plainly reckless. In our industry it will be where the Copy right or Intellectual Property is held. That said knowingly breaking the law, is wrong and contract or no contract, courts can hold you accountable. My 2p, one day this will have to be euro cents! My God! GC Original Message: - From: Kay Smoljak [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 May 2004 12:40:32 +0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [WSG] And to sum up the relevance : all websites created, owned or hosted in Australia must comply to the DDA. You, as the creator/developer/designer, bear as much responsibility as your client. So, you can be held just as liable by the courts as the site owner - your biggest problem will be convincing your clients to give a damn... Thats an interesting one, would I even be liable if I pointed out all these issues? Surely that would depend on your contract with the client - I'm pretty sure ours has all sorts of wriggly little disclaimers to guard against that kind of thing. K. -- Kay Smoljak Senior Developer/QC Leader/Search Optimisation PerthWeb Pty Ltd - http://www.perthweb.com.au/ Ph: 08 9226 1366 - Fax: 08 9226 1375 * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help * mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] [OT] I want to keep the entered data in NN:form after history.go(-1)
[OT] I want to keep the entered data in NN:form after history.go(-1) I am racking my brains over the simplest thing, its not web standards as in CSS but its about browser compatibility. Using Netscape if I fill in the form submit it and get to an error page then click back or a link with history.back() or history.go(-1) the data I entered in the form is not maintained. Google manage to maintain it. I seem to remember a fix for this, but cant locate it now. Anyone have any thoughts. GC mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ . * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ See http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm for some hints on posting to the list getting help *
[WSG] Issues with min-height?
Hello, I'm Sarah, and I just joined WSG a few days ago :) I'm just learning CSS and I'm have a bit of trouble with min-height and tableless layouts. I want the content and the sidebar to stretch down all the way to the bottom of the screen. It kind of looks odd when the content/sidebar's background color just stops in the middle of the screen. I was trying to fiddle around with the following min-height hacks but maybe I'm just way over my head here. Any suggestions? Min-height hack: http://www.pixy.cz/blogg/clanky/css-minheight-hack.html ALA article: http://alistapart.com/articles/footers/ URL: http://bonniepink.justagirl.org/ CSS: http://bonniepink.justagirl.org/bp.css - Sarah -- Read or Die http://www.readordie.org/ * The discussion list for http://webstandardsgroup.org/ *
