Re: [WSG] Idiot's guide to JavaScript
On Nov 14, 2007 9:44 PM, Chris Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rob Mason wrote: I am looking for a really basic, plain English guide to JavaScript. I highly rate this book - easy to read and understand: http://www.quirksmode.org/book/ http://domscripting.com/book/ is very good too. -- Olly http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript
On Nov 14, 2007 10:37 PM, Michael Horowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have examples using one value onchange=showSubcategory(this.value) from a form to a script. What if I need to send two values one from the current element in the form and one from another element onchange=showSubcategory(this.value, document.getElementById(anotherElement).value); -- Olly http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] How to send two values to javascript
On Nov 14, 2007 11:11 PM, Olly Hodgson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: onchange=showSubcategory(this.value, document.getElementById(anotherElement).value); While I'm here, two points: Doing anything major using the onchange event isn't a great idea. The reason being it can scupper keyboard users -- some browsers will fire the event when the user's moving through items in the select using the cursor keys. Secondly, using inline event handlers is right up there with inline styling. Ideally, you should be keeping everything in a separate script file, in the same way you'd keep your CSS out of the HTML. http://www.onlinetools.org/articles/unobtrusivejavascript/ Cheers, -- Olly Hodgson http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] multilingual website advice
On 11/1/07, Andrew Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm asking for any gems of wisdom - links or first hand advice, mostly technical, but anything that deals with the pitfalls in building arabic websites would be great. I found Richard Ishida's @media07 presentation, Designing for International Users: Practical Tips rather enlightening. The audio and slides are available from http://www.vivabit.com/atmedia2007/europe/schedule/ Cheers, -- Olly Hodgson http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Re: worst site I've seen lately
On 10/29/07, Rob Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My eyes, my beautiful eyes...it burns. whisperI actually quite like it./whisper It's nice to see someone trying something slightly away from the norm. OK, so they don't quite pull it off -- the mad scrolling stuff could do with being toned down a little (perhaps a bit of motion blurring?) and some of the UI design is just plain silly, but generally, not a bad effort. I've certainly seen a lot worse. Besides, what's not to like about a site that employs lines like Value-added red noses maximize a plan to vigorously deliver multilevel hairdryers. in place of lipsum? ;) -- Olly http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Accessibility awareness vs site's cleanliness
On 10/27/07, Simon Cockayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So...how can I spread the good word of valid CSS, XHTML and WCAG...without spoiling the site with verbose text or logos? To be honest, I wouldn't bother. If the client doesn't want it, and it's not adding anything to the site, why are you doing it? -- Olly http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] Jquery and/or Yahoo UI
On 10/13/07, Christian Montoya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a way, it's kind of like embed vs. object. In a way, but... Of course, if you really want to use innerHTML, you could probably go right ahead. But if you are already using a very DOM-friendly framework like jQuery, you may as well take advantage of the face that it makes all the proper DOM methods very easy to use. (I might well be talking out of my backside here in which case, feel free to shoot me down in flames...) IIRC the innerHTML methods are significantly faster than W3C DOM methods in current mainstream browsers. In most cases it won't make a lot of difference, but if you're pushing a large amount of data around the page, it can be very helpful. I'm not saying you should use innerHTML exclusively -- In most cases I still turn to W3C DOM methods. Sometimes though, IE will slow right down, and innerHTML can be a good way of extracting a bit more speed from it. -- Olly http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] site check - almost ready for prime time
On 3/19/07, Kenny Graham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some may also say that having a splash screen page (a page with no other navigation other than enter) is a bad practice, but I think that's more a matter of personal preference. Personally, I'd have links to the major sections of the site, rather that one small insignificant link at the bottom of the page. A screen-reader user would have to trawl through the whole screen before they could get into the meat of the site, which doesn't seem ideal. On a non-accessibility tip, the header graphic appears to have quite significant JPEG artifacts on my screen (they show up more on the Macbook for some reason). Also, the sub-menus on the left-hand navigation appear, then grow slightly in size (in both Safari and Camino on MacOSX). I'm not sure if that's intentional or not, but it's a bit distracting. Cheers, -- Olly Hodgson http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
Re: [WSG] .NET generate horrible html, i need some lights
On 3/12/07, Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iam working with the interface/html team and maybe the team that build the aplications wouldn be so open to that changes, they say that is easiest and quicky putting the native elements of .net tham building, They're absolutely right, it is easier. That doesn't make it the right thing to do though. Now, I'm no server-side programmer, but I get to work with .net quite a lot. It's got a lot of features that make me want to stove someone's head in with a shovel (the enourmous viewstate, smartnav, one form per page, table controls that strip out summary attributes and th elements, etc), but when a programmer knows what they're doing, it's perfectly possible to get it to output nicer code. There's all sorts of tricks, such as rewriting the HTML by overriding the render method. By the sounds of it, your biggest hurdle is going to be the programmers. They need educating in the ways of the web. Once you've won them over, you're halfway there. It may be that you have to bite the bullet and make the best of what you've got though. -- Olly http://thinkdrastic.net/ *** List Guidelines: http://webstandardsgroup.org/mail/guidelines.cfm Unsubscribe: http://webstandardsgroup.org/join/unsubscribe.cfm Help: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ***
