Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Carey Fisher]

Well, duh...

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 7:45 PM, G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF) <
wsjtde...@gape.me.uk> wrote:

> When the TX is not employing CAT control of frequency, for starters.
>
> Robin
>
> On 01/08/18 18:55, Carey Fisher wrote:
>
> Name 1.
>
> On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Because there are too many situations where it doesn't work.
>>
>> de Mike W9MDB
>>
>
>
> 
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> ___
> wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>
>


-- 
Carey Fisher
careyfis...@gmail.com
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

[wsjt-devel] WSJT-X need to log the end time of QSO not the start

[Ed Stallman]

Please read from bottom up... I started this message with the Yahoo 
WSJT-X group , I was told this  is an N1MM + issue . So I sent the 
message to the N1MM + user group and as you can read below , I'm told 
the issue is with WSJT=X


I'm only a user of N1MM + and WSJT-X FT8 mode !  In WSJT-X settings / 
Reporting ( N1MM logger + Broadcast )  I have checked Enable logged 
contact ADIF .. Now if the log time was at the end of the QSO , Club Log 
, LoTW and the user's would all be happy.


Now all this is not really a big issue , I can mentally detect the QSO 
is taking a long time and edit the time when QSO is complete


Love both FT8 and N1MM + logger, Ed N5DG




Amplifying what Steve says, in a contest, a QSO must be *completed* 
before the end of the contest.  If it is not, it doesn't count.  Since 
there is only one timestamp in a Cabrillo log, it should be the ending 
time of the contact.


73,

Tom - N1MM


On 8/1/2018 6:41 PM, Steve London wrote:
I have brought up this issue on WSJT-X forums in the context of the LoTW 
time match window. When normally logging a QSO in N1MM+, without WSJT, 
the completion time of the QSO is finished and logged. I consider that 
to be correct. As you have noticed, WSJT sends the start time to N1MM+. 
IMHO, that is not correct. WSJT-X folks have a different opinion. You 
really should take up this issue with the WSJT-X folks.


73,
Steve, N2IC

On 08/01/2018 04:29 PM, ed.n...@gmail.com wrote:
This may have  been discussed and I missed it . I worked and logged Z66X 
on 10m FT8 , it was not an easy contact . I would stop and start again 
as QSB permitted . After receiving  and sending 73's I clicked log it in 
the WSJT program and WSJT sends the Q to N1MM plus . Now a few days 
later I'm filling in date and time using Club Log   OQRS and I was not 
getting a match . I remembered , I made a WSJT screenshot . My 
screenshot time was 26 minutes later then the time WSJT / N1MM+ logged 
the QSO ! Entering the screenshot time was a match in club log .


Now I'm keeping a close eye on the WSJT log time and it appears to use  
only the start time when sending to N1MM+ or should I say N1MM only 
grabs the start time


I see WSJT has a start and end time so It would be great if N1MM+ would 
use the end time , or both ...


Now I know N1MM + is a contest log and I'm using iit as a general log 
but that is because I like it and won't use any other logging software . 
I'm only asking for a simple change and can't see it making a bit of 
difference for contester logging the start or the end of the QSO .


If I'm asking for to much , It's simple ... If my DX QSO is timely, I'll 
change the time manually but I will not stop using N1MM Logger


Thanks for reading, Good luck with ur contesting, Ed N5DG



---
This email has been checked for viruses by AVG.
https://www.avg.com
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[G8DQX (WSJT developers on SF)]

When the TX is not employing CAT control of frequency, for starters.

Robin


On 01/08/18 18:55, Carey Fisher wrote:

Name 1.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
> wrote:


Because there are too many situations where it doesn't work.

de Mike W9MDB



--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] Integration with HRD

[Frank Kirschner]

My memory isn't very good, and I forgot that I tried this a while back. I
tried it again, and get the same error message:



The settings in WSJT-X look exactly like those shown in the Setup section
of the help file.

No idea what to do now.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.

73,
Frank
KF6E

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> JTAlert will do it with WSJT-X plus more
>
> http://www.hamapps.com
>
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Mark Spencer]

I don't believe it was due to the bandpass limits in the radios in question (my 
recollection is that as the audio frequency went down the drive level required 
for a given RF output level went up and this effect was fairly constant thru 
the audio pass band as opposed to only happening at high or low frequencies.)  
It is possible there may have been an issue with the audio interface(s) used to 
connect the computers to the radios but I recall the effect being more or less 
the same with both a commercially made unit and a home brew test scheme.   I 
also recall using two different connections (on the radio) to feed audio into 
one of the radios in question and the results were largely the same.  

Not a huge issue but thought I would mention it.  To recap it was quite easy to 
detect this using the meters / indicators in the radios and I like to think 
amateur radio licence holders should typically be able to deal with this type 
of issue but I can see some one who perhaps paying a lot of attention or had a 
built in meter set to say SWR (as opposed to power out or ALC) getting tripped 
up by this.

I don't have these types of issue with my IC7300.

73

Mark Spencer
VE7AFZ
netsyn...@gmail.com



> On Aug 1, 2018, at 3:22 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>  wrote:
> 
> If you're needing different levels at 500 or 2500 then you are probably 
> hitting the bandpass limits you have set on your rig.
> Levels SHOULD be constant across your entire transmit bandpass.
> I can imagine 2500 might be a push for an older rig but 500 shouldn't be.
> 
> de Mike W9MDB
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 5:19:36 PM CDT, Mark Spencer 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just to add to this:
> 
> In my experience it is also helpful to carry out this type of test procedure 
> at various audio frequencies within the audio pass band of the equipment in 
> question.  This is probably another good reason to run "CAT" control along 
> with "Split" so that the audio frequencies that are fed to the transmitter 
> are kept within a narrower range.
> 
> I have at least two older radios that require significantly different audio 
> drive levels at different audio frequencies.   While I don't routinely use 
> these radios with WSJT any more there may be other hams who have equipment 
> with a similar issue who may not realize that settings at an Audio frequency 
> of say 1500 Hz which give a good result may or may not be appropriate at say 
> 500 or 2500 Hz ?   I will add that looking at the appropriate meters / 
> displays on the radios in question does indicate to me that there is an issue 
> that needs to be addressed and in my view it is quite simple to adjust the 
> power slider to correct this.  Still it wouldn't surprise me if at least some 
> of the sub optimal signals on the air were due to this type of issue.
> 
> I've never gotten a bad audio report while using the radios in question for 
> SSB voice and when I used to run them on RTTY I used FSK so I never noticed 
> this issue until I started using these radios with WSJT.
> 
> As usual the opinions and experiences of others may differ from mine.
> 
> 73
> 
> Mark Spencer
> VE7AFZ
> netsyn...@gmail.com
> 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 1, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Good instructions for the analog world.
>> 
>> There's one more way that works on most any computer these days
>> Even people with direct USB connections to their rigs are having problems.
>> 
>> I would add this...and it should work on most any rig setup
>> 
>> #1 Set WSJT-X to minimum power
>> #2 Set audio devices (record/playback) to 0dB
>> #3 Rig to 50% of rated power for CW (some rigs can do full power on CW, some 
>> can't)
>> #4 Rig gain to zero (MIC gain if you're input is the MIC, or USB gain if 
>> USB, or Data gain if one of the DIN connectors)
>> #5 Click Tune on WSJT-X
>> #6 Bring up WSJT-X power SLOWLY to max...you should still see no power or 
>> very low output on your rig (assuming rig gain is at zero).
>> #6 Bring rig gain up SLOWLY until you get 5W or so of power.  If you don't 
>> see power coming up then you have the wrong gain control.  Then look at your 
>> ALC meter.  Whatever your ALC meter shows at this stage is where it should 
>> stay as you bring up the rig gain. Some rigs show 1 bar of ALC (e.g. 
>> IC-7100), some show 30-50% (eg IC-7300/7410), some show no ALC at all.
>> #7 Bring rig gain up and eventually you will see the ALC start 
>> risingback it down to the level you had at 5W.  What ever transmit power 
>> % you have at that point is all you will be able to transmit without ALC 
>> kicking in.  It will probably be 80-90% of your rated CW power.
>> #8 Bring up rig power to full CW power level and the ALC should stay 
>> constant. You can now adjust your transmit power either from WSJT-X or the 
>> rig.
>> 
>> de Mike W9MDB
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 12:51:38 PM CDT, Jim Brown 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/1/2018 9:50 AM, Black 

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

If you're needing different levels at 500 or 2500 then you are probably hitting 
the bandpass limits you have set on your rig.Levels SHOULD be constant across 
your entire transmit bandpass.I can imagine 2500 might be a push for an older 
rig but 500 shouldn't be.

de Mike W9MDB


 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 5:19:36 PM CDT, Mark Spencer 
 wrote:  
 
 Just to add to this:
In my experience it is also helpful to carry out this type of test procedure at 
various audio frequencies within the audio pass band of the equipment in 
question.  This is probably another good reason to run "CAT" control along with 
"Split" so that the audio frequencies that are fed to the transmitter are kept 
within a narrower range.
I have at least two older radios that require significantly different audio 
drive levels at different audio frequencies.   While I don't routinely use 
these radios with WSJT any more there may be other hams who have equipment with 
a similar issue who may not realize that settings at an Audio frequency of say 
1500 Hz which give a good result may or may not be appropriate at say 500 or 
2500 Hz ?   I will add that looking at the appropriate meters / displays on the 
radios in question does indicate to me that there is an issue that needs to be 
addressed and in my view it is quite simple to adjust the power slider to 
correct this.  Still it wouldn't surprise me if at least some of the sub 
optimal signals on the air were due to this type of issue.
I've never gotten a bad audio report while using the radios in question for SSB 
voice and when I used to run them on RTTY I used FSK so I never noticed this 
issue until I started using these radios with WSJT.
As usual the opinions and experiences of others may differ from mine.
73

Mark spencerve7afznetsyn...@gmail.com


On Aug 1, 2018, at 11:41 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:


Good instructions for the analog world.
There's one more way that works on most any computer these daysEven people 
with direct USB connections to their rigs are having problems.

I would add this...and it should work on most any rig setup
#1 Set WSJT-X to minimum power#2 Set audio devices (record/playback) to 0dB#3 
Rig to 50% of rated power for CW (some rigs can do full power on CW, some can't)
#4 Rig gain to zero (MIC gain if you're input is the MIC, or USB gain if USB, 
or Data gain if one of the DIN connectors)
#5 Click Tune on WSJT-X#6 Bring up WSJT-X power SLOWLY to max...you should 
still see no power or very low output on your rig (assuming rig gain is at 
zero).
#6 Bring rig gain up SLOWLY until you get 5W or so of power.  If you don't see 
power coming up then you have the wrong gain control.  Then look at your ALC 
meter.  Whatever your ALC meter shows at this stage is where it should stay as 
you bring up the rig gain. Some rigs show 1 bar of ALC (e.g. IC-7100), some 
show 30-50% (eg IC-7300/7410), some show no ALC at all.
#7 Bring rig gain up and eventually you will see the ALC start risingback 
it down to the level you had at 5W.  What ever transmit power % you have at 
that point is all you will be able to transmit without ALC kicking in.  It will 
probably be 80-90% of your rated CW power.#8 Bring up rig power to full CW 
power level and the ALC should stay constant. You can now adjust your transmit 
power either from WSJT-X or the rig.
de Mike W9MDB

 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 12:51:38 PM CDT, Jim Brown 
 wrote:  
 
 On 8/1/2018 9:50 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> IMHO better if ops learn how to set up their rigs properly though.

Exactly right. The last page of this link has detailed instructions for 
setting audio levels that avoids distortion.

http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
  

--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot

___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

  --
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[John C. Westmoreland, P.E.]

To All,

It's great to see all of the posts reviewing how to set audio correctly.

I was wondering if there's a published spec on the FT8 signal definition; I
think I may be seeing spurs and want to make sure that isn't actually part
of the fundamental.

73's,
John
AJ6BC

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018, 11:42 AM Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Good instructions for the analog world.
>
> There's one more way that works on most any computer these days
> Even people with direct USB connections to their rigs are having problems.
>
> I would add this...and it should work on most any rig setup
>
> #1 Set WSJT-X to minimum power
> #2 Set audio devices (record/playback) to 0dB
> #3 Rig to 50% of rated power for CW (some rigs can do full power on CW,
> some can't)
> #4 Rig gain to zero (MIC gain if you're input is the MIC, or USB gain if
> USB, or Data gain if one of the DIN connectors)
> #5 Click Tune on WSJT-X
> #6 Bring up WSJT-X power SLOWLY to max...you should still see no power or
> very low output on your rig (assuming rig gain is at zero).
> #6 Bring rig gain up SLOWLY until you get 5W or so of power.  If you don't
> see power coming up then you have the wrong gain control.  Then look at
> your ALC meter.  Whatever your ALC meter shows at this stage is where it
> should stay as you bring up the rig gain. Some rigs show 1 bar of ALC (e.g.
> IC-7100), some show 30-50% (eg IC-7300/7410), some show no ALC at all.
> #7 Bring rig gain up and eventually you will see the ALC start
> risingback it down to the level you had at 5W.  What ever transmit
> power % you have at that point is all you will be able to transmit without
> ALC kicking in.  It will probably be 80-90% of your rated CW power.
> #8 Bring up rig power to full CW power level and the ALC should stay
> constant. You can now adjust your transmit power either from WSJT-X or the
> rig.
>
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 12:51:38 PM CDT, Jim Brown <
> k...@audiosystemsgroup.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/1/2018 9:50 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> > IMHO better if ops learn how to set up their rigs properly though.
>
> Exactly right. The last page of this link has detailed instructions for
> setting audio levels that avoids distortion.
>
> http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
>
>
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> ___
> wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> ___
> wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] Integration with HRD

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

JTAlert will do it with WSJT-X plus more
http://www.hamapps.com
de Mike W9MDB

 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 2:42:01 PM CDT, Frank Kirschner 
 wrote:  
 
 I'm still pretty inexperienced with the WSJT-X software, so forgive me if I'm 
missing the obvious, but it would be really nice if the WSJT-X program could 
feed QSO information to HRD Logbook. 

In DM-780, when I send a macro with the command to log the QSO, it does so. It 
seems like it should be possible to get WSJT-X to do the same. When the line 
with "73" is sent and the Enable Send is cleared, a write to HRD Logbook with 
the QSO info would be very convenient.
Is this possible? Maybe it's already available, and I just don't know how to do 
it.
Thanks.
73,FrankKF6E
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! 
http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
  --
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

[wsjt-devel] Integration with HRD

[Frank Kirschner]

I'm still pretty inexperienced with the WSJT-X software, so forgive me if
I'm missing the obvious, but it would be really nice if the WSJT-X program
could feed QSO information to HRD Logbook.

In DM-780, when I send a macro with the command to log the QSO, it does so.
It seems like it should be possible to get WSJT-X to do the same. When the
line with "73" is sent and the Enable Send is cleared, a write to HRD
Logbook with the QSO info would be very convenient.

Is this possible? Maybe it's already available, and I just don't know how
to do it.

Thanks.

73,
Frank
KF6E
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Good instructions for the analog world.
There's one more way that works on most any computer these daysEven people 
with direct USB connections to their rigs are having problems.

I would add this...and it should work on most any rig setup
#1 Set WSJT-X to minimum power#2 Set audio devices (record/playback) to 0dB#3 
Rig to 50% of rated power for CW (some rigs can do full power on CW, some can't)
#4 Rig gain to zero (MIC gain if you're input is the MIC, or USB gain if USB, 
or Data gain if one of the DIN connectors)
#5 Click Tune on WSJT-X#6 Bring up WSJT-X power SLOWLY to max...you should 
still see no power or very low output on your rig (assuming rig gain is at 
zero).
#6 Bring rig gain up SLOWLY until you get 5W or so of power.  If you don't see 
power coming up then you have the wrong gain control.  Then look at your ALC 
meter.  Whatever your ALC meter shows at this stage is where it should stay as 
you bring up the rig gain. Some rigs show 1 bar of ALC (e.g. IC-7100), some 
show 30-50% (eg IC-7300/7410), some show no ALC at all.
#7 Bring rig gain up and eventually you will see the ALC start risingback 
it down to the level you had at 5W.  What ever transmit power % you have at 
that point is all you will be able to transmit without ALC kicking in.  It will 
probably be 80-90% of your rated CW power.#8 Bring up rig power to full CW 
power level and the ALC should stay constant. You can now adjust your transmit 
power either from WSJT-X or the rig.
de Mike W9MDB

 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 12:51:38 PM CDT, Jim Brown 
 wrote:  
 
 On 8/1/2018 9:50 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
> IMHO better if ops learn how to set up their rigs properly though.

Exactly right. The last page of this link has detailed instructions for 
setting audio levels that avoids distortion.

http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
  --
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Carey Fisher]

Name 1.

On Wed, Aug 1, 2018 at 1:35 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Because there are too many situations where it doesn't work.
>
> de Mike W9MDB
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 12:27:46 PM CDT, Mike Lavelle <
> micle...@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> I agree that the "Fake IT" split option should help the harmnic problem
> and should be emphazied.
>
> Is there any reason that "Fake It" should NOT be made the default mode for
> any split mode capable rig?
>
> Making it the default would help clean up our waterfalls.
>
>
>
> Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> *From: *iveydj
> *To: *WSJT software development
> *Sent: *August 1, 2018 at 9:45 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air
>
> Have been following this thread with great interest. Have not seen input
> about setting WSJT-X Split config to Rig or Fake It. If I understand the
> feature correctly, this temporarily shifts the TX VFO so the right
> frequency is sent but audio harmonics are out of the TX passband,
> supressing them.
>
> Dave KE4EA
>
>
>
> Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5.
>
>  Original message 
> From: Claude Frantz 
> Date: 7/31/18 12:29 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air
>
> On 07/31/2018 05:18 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:
>
> Many thanks Mike and George. I confess that I'm surprised. I will
> observe these signals further if they occur. It's an interesting matter.
> Hi !
>
> Best wishes,
> Claude (DJ0OT)
>
>
> 
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> ___
> wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging
> tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
>
> ___ wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/
> lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>
> 
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot__
> _
> wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>
> 
> --
> Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
> engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
> ___
> wsjt-devel mailing list
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
>
>


-- 
Carey Fisher
careyfis...@gmail.com
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Jim Brown]

On 8/1/2018 9:50 AM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

IMHO better if ops learn how to set up their rigs properly though.


Exactly right. The last page of this link has detailed instructions for 
setting audio levels that avoids distortion.


http://k9yc.com/USB_Interfaces.pdf

73, Jim K9YC

--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

Because there are too many situations where it doesn't work.
de Mike W9MDB


 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 12:27:46 PM CDT, Mike Lavelle 
 wrote:  
 
 I agree that the "Fake IT" split option should help the harmnic problem and 
should be emphazied.    

Is there any reason that "Fake It" should NOT be made the default mode for any 
split mode capable rig?   

Making it the default would help clean up our waterfalls. 



Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App

-- Original Message --

From: iveydj
To: WSJT software development
Sent: August 1, 2018 at 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

Have been following this thread with great interest. Have not seen input about 
setting WSJT-X Split config to Rig or Fake It. If I understand the feature 
correctly, this temporarily shifts the TX VFO so the right frequency is sent 
but audio harmonics are out of the TX passband, supressing them. 
Dave KE4EA


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5.
 Original message From: Claude Frantz 
 Date: 7/31/18 12:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal 
seen on the air 
On 07/31/2018 05:18 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

Many thanks Mike and George. I confess that I'm surprised. I will
observe these signals further if they occur. It's an interesting matter.
Hi !

Best wishes,
Claude (DJ0OT)


--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
--Check
 out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's mostengaging tech sites, 
Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot

___wsjt-devel mailing 
listwsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel


--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! 
http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
  --
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Mike Lavelle]

I agree that the "Fake IT" split option should help the harmnic problem and should be emphazied.    Is there any reason that "Fake It" should NOT be made the default mode for any split mode capable rig?   Making it the default would help clean up our waterfalls. Sent from XFINITY Connect Mobile App-- Original Message --From: iveydjTo: WSJT software developmentSent: August 1, 2018 at 9:45 AMSubject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the airHave been following this thread with great interest. Have not seen input about setting WSJT-X Split config to Rig or Fake It. If I understand the feature correctly, this temporarily shifts the TX VFO so the right frequency is sent but audio harmonics are out of the TX passband, supressing them. Dave KE4EASent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5. Original message From: Claude Frantz  Date: 7/31/18  12:29 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air On 07/31/2018 05:18 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:Many thanks Mike and George. I confess that I'm surprised. I willobserve these signals further if they occur. It's an interesting matter.Hi !Best wishes,Claude (DJ0OT)--Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's mostengaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___wsjt-devel mailing listwsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.nethttps://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal seen on the air

[Black Michael via wsjt-devel]

That is trueIMHO better if ops learn how to set up their rigs properly 
though.
We (me and a fellow noise-warrior) find many ops don't understand bandwidth or 
how to set it, or ALC effects.Split mode does fix their 
ALC-noise-generated-problems but better to fix their setup instead.
I've help over 100 ops fix their systems and taught them how to set up their 
systems.
Seems like since Baker Island a lot of new FT8 users showed upmost 
everybody I see with the problem doesn't have JTAlert for example so are really 
new users.

de Mike W9MDB


 

On Wednesday, August 1, 2018, 11:44:55 AM CDT, iveydj 
 wrote:  
 
 Have been following this thread with great interest. Have not seen input about 
setting WSJT-X Split config to Rig or Fake It. If I understand the feature 
correctly, this temporarily shifts the TX VFO so the right frequency is sent 
but audio harmonics are out of the TX passband, supressing them. 
Dave KE4EA


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5.
 Original message From: Claude Frantz 
 Date: 7/31/18 12:29 PM (GMT-05:00) To: 
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] A strange signal 
seen on the air 
On 07/31/2018 05:18 PM, Black Michael via wsjt-devel wrote:

Many thanks Mike and George. I confess that I'm surprised. I will
observe these signals further if they occur. It's an interesting matter.
Hi !

Best wishes,
Claude (DJ0OT)


--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot
___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! 
http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
  --
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel

[wsjt-devel] Minor bug

[Jaime Robles]

Version wsjtx 1.9.1
OS macos

When logging a qso, you can modify the data in the windows that shows you
the data to be logged.

You can modify the QRZ and add a letter not in CAPITAL LETTERS but small
letter... and the letter is not capitalized.

I am developing the interface to KLog and noticed that I was receiving data
with mixed capital and not capital letters through the UDP channel...

Not really a big deal but something to be fixed :-)


Thanks for wsjtx!
--
Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most
engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot___
wsjt-devel mailing list
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel