Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.4 GA Release

2022-01-04 Thread Paul Bramscher via wsjt-devel
Thanks Joe -- we appreciate the update.  Downloaded the source tarball 
from your Princeton site, compiled without issue on Debian 11.


Previously I was running 2.5.3 with a Kenwood TS-590S and it did crash a 
few times.  No such problems seen yet with 2.5.4.


73, KD0KZE / Paul

On 1/3/22 10:54, Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel wrote:
Please welcome two new members of the core WSJT Development group: Chet 
Fennell, KG4IYS, and Uwe Risse, DG2YCB.  Each brings important skills 
and experience to the project, after the loss of Bill Somerville, G4WJS.


The newly constituted group has been working to redefine standard 
operating procedures for new releases.  WSJT-X 2.5.4, a bug-fix release 
correcting these two flaws in release 2.5.3, is now available as a 
General Availability (GA) release.


Changes from v2.5.3 are:

WSJT-X: Repair a defect that caused occasional crashes when in QSO with
stations using nonstandard callsigns.

MAP65: Correct a bug that prevented "Best-fit Delta phi" solutions from 
  being displayed to the user.


Links to WSJT-X 2.5.4 installation packages for Windows and Linux are 
available here:

http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/k1jt/wsjtx.html

Thanks to John Nelson, G4KLA, the installation package for macOS will be 
added soon.


You can also download the packages from our SourceForge site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
It may take a short time for the SourceForge site to be updated.

WSJT-X is licensed under the terms of Version 3 of the GNU General 
Public License (GPL).  Development of this software is a cooperative 
project to which many amateur radio operators have contributed.  If you 
use our code, please have the courtesy to let us know about it.  If you 
find bugs or make improvements to the code, please report them to us in 
a timely fashion.


The authors and Copyright holders of WSJT-X request that derivative 
works should not publish programs based on features in WSJT-X before 
those features are made available in a General Availability (GA) release 
of WSJT-X.  We will cease making public Release Candidate (RC) 
pre-releases for testing and user early access purposes if this request 
is ignored.


Bugs should be reported by following instructions found here in the User 
Guide:


https://www.physics.princeton.edu//pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.5.4.html#_bug_reports 



We hope you will enjoy using WSJT-X 2.5.4.

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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel
Hi Peter

The example file  00_0003.wav in the link I sent is a simulated file,
with DT set to 2.5s as for an EME signal.

Try it with Ftol=100Hz and it should decode both signals OK.  For me, on
one quick test, with Ftol=1000 encompassing both signals only one decoded.

73

Charlie

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 20:53, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi Charlie,
>   may I ask were the Q65-60D recordings were EME or terrestrial ?  I have
> found that with Q65 it is quite dependent on the 'decode after eme delay'
> setting as to whether the signal decodes or not.
>
> After more testing last night, I found the samples from Lance W7GJ that
> decoded in Q65-60A but required me to have 'decode after eme delay' ticked
> which had me foxed for a few minutes.
>
> So far I have had no luck with any of the Q65-30A samples decoding, on air
> observations are the decoder works for one signal only. Checked again to be
> sure and the 'single decode'  option is not enabled.   If I go back and
> click on each signal I get a decode.
>
> It is behaving like the decoder is in DEEP mode even though FAST is
> selected.
>
> Regards,
> Peter, vk5pj
>
>
> Regards,
> Peter vk5pj
>
> On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 9:18 PM Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Peter
>>
>> This link has some Q65 examples, including simulated  one with two
>> different  Q65-60D signals in the passband.
>>
>>  Make sure of course that you have 'single decode' in main settings
>> unchecked (!).
>>
>>
>> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RMdrOT7SVIrTDz4hMdmzZkfXJ2daf0yu?usp=sharing
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Charlie G3WDG
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 10:24, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel <
>> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>   at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from
>>> multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain how
>>> or when this has occurred.
>>>
>>> I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and
>>> tried to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.
>>>
>>> At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for
>>> me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not get
>>> either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal I have
>>> tried.
>>>
>>> While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from
>>> Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.
>>>
>>> Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple
>>> stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X web
>>> site)
>>>
>>> So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the
>>> same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was doing
>>> multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on EME during
>>> the recent W7GJ trip away.
>>>
>>> I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back
>>> and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no
>>>
>>> Still scratching my head.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Peter, vk5pj
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread jan0--- via wsjt-devel
Joe,

FYI, this isn't an isolated incident.  Several hams, from NA, SA, VK and ZL, 
working to exploit the December-January openings between the Americas and VK/ZL 
have tried moving from FT8 to Q65-30A, only to have the same non-decode problem 
appear.  (I am one of them.  For the record, watching terrestrial 6m signals 
from VK on a waterfall that do not decode -- some at audible levels -- is quite 
frustrating.)  Q65 is getting a poor reputation with this group of experienced 
VHF DXers.  If you find a solution for Peter, please disseminate it to this 
list.

Ed Callaway, N4II.

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To: WSJT software development 
Cc: Joe Taylor 
Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals 
in passband

Hi Peter,

I tries WSJT-X 2.5.4 on the Q65 sample Q65 files.   I see all the 
decodes for Q65-60A and Q65-30A that are mentioned in the "Quick-Start Guide to 
Q65," so I have no idea what may be causing you trouble.  If you haven't 
figured it out, you could send me a copy of file WSJT-X.ini in your log 
directory, and I'll look further...

-- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 1/4/2022 5:16 AM, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel wrote:
> Hi,
>at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes 
> from multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to 
> explain how or when this has occurred.
> 
> I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and 
> tried to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.
> 
> At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode 
> for me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but 
> can not get either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep 
> or Normal I have tried.
> 
> While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from 
> Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.
> 
> Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with 
> multiple stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from 
> the WSJT-X web site)
> 
> So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the same 
> result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was doing 
> multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on EME 
> during the recent W7GJ trip away.
> 
> I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going 
> back and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas 
> no
> 
> Still scratching my head.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter, vk5pj
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel
Hi Charlie,
  may I ask were the Q65-60D recordings were EME or terrestrial ?  I have
found that with Q65 it is quite dependent on the 'decode after eme delay'
setting as to whether the signal decodes or not.

After more testing last night, I found the samples from Lance W7GJ that
decoded in Q65-60A but required me to have 'decode after eme delay' ticked
which had me foxed for a few minutes.

So far I have had no luck with any of the Q65-30A samples decoding, on air
observations are the decoder works for one signal only. Checked again to be
sure and the 'single decode'  option is not enabled.   If I go back and
click on each signal I get a decode.

It is behaving like the decoder is in DEEP mode even though FAST is
selected.

Regards,
Peter, vk5pj


Regards,
Peter vk5pj

On Tue, Jan 4, 2022 at 9:18 PM Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi Peter
>
> This link has some Q65 examples, including simulated  one with two
> different  Q65-60D signals in the passband.
>
>  Make sure of course that you have 'single decode' in main settings
> unchecked (!).
>
>
> https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RMdrOT7SVIrTDz4hMdmzZkfXJ2daf0yu?usp=sharing
>
> 73
>
> Charlie G3WDG
>
>
>
> On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 10:24, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel <
> wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>   at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from
>> multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain how
>> or when this has occurred.
>>
>> I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and
>> tried to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.
>>
>> At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for
>> me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not get
>> either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal I have
>> tried.
>>
>> While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from
>> Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.
>>
>> Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple
>> stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X web
>> site)
>>
>> So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the
>> same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was doing
>> multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on EME during
>> the recent W7GJ trip away.
>>
>> I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back
>> and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no
>>
>> Still scratching my head.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter, vk5pj
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Andrew Neumeier via wsjt-devel
 Peter,
I have seen this happen if Ftol is not opened so that the green line on the 
waterfall is not over the received signal.  Generally, I leave Ftol open to 
1000hz when running Q65, primarily on six meters, unless I am in a difficult 
qso and want to reduce it to center on a particular signal.  If I happen to see 
another signal appear on the waterfall, and the green line is not above it, 
double clicking on the signal will move the green line and decode the signal, 
at least in my case anyway.  

Hope this helps in some way.

73,Andy, ka2uqw


On Tuesday, January 4, 2022, 11:19:05 AM EST, Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel 
 wrote:  
 
 Hi Peter,

I tries WSJT-X 2.5.4 on the Q65 sample Q65 files.  I see all the 
decodes for Q65-60A and Q65-30A that are mentioned in the "Quick-Start 
Guide to Q65," so I have no idea what may be causing you trouble.  If 
you haven't figured it out, you could send me a copy of file WSJT-X.ini 
in your log directory, and I'll look further...

    -- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 1/4/2022 5:16 AM, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel wrote:
> Hi,
>    at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from 
> multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain 
> how or when this has occurred.
> 
> I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and 
> tried to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.
> 
> At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for 
> me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not 
> get either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal 
> I have tried.
> 
> While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from 
> Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.
> 
> Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple 
> stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X 
> web site)
> 
> So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the 
> same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was 
> doing multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on 
> EME during the recent W7GJ trip away.
> 
> I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back 
> and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no
> 
> Still scratching my head.
> 
> Regards,
> Peter, vk5pj
> 
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel

Hi Peter,

I tries WSJT-X 2.5.4 on the Q65 sample Q65 files.   I see all the 
decodes for Q65-60A and Q65-30A that are mentioned in the "Quick-Start 
Guide to Q65," so I have no idea what may be causing you trouble.  If 
you haven't figured it out, you could send me a copy of file WSJT-X.ini 
in your log directory, and I'll look further...


-- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 1/4/2022 5:16 AM, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel wrote:

Hi,
   at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from 
multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain 
how or when this has occurred.


I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and 
tried to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.


At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for 
me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not 
get either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal 
I have tried.


While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from 
Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.


Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple 
stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X 
web site)


So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the 
same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was 
doing multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on 
EME during the recent W7GJ trip away.


I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back 
and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no


Still scratching my head.

Regards,
Peter, vk5pj


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Re: [wsjt-devel] Generating an audio file of WSPR or JT-65

2022-01-04 Thread Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel

Hi Peter,

Hardly surprisingly, we have written simulators for all modes developed 
for WSJT and WSJT-X.  The simulators are used extensively during 
development, but much less thereafter.


Recently we have included only a few of them (e.g., fst4sim, mapsim, 
q65sim) in the packaged distributions of WSJT-X.  Source code for all of 
them is present in the SourceForge repository and the packaged source 
tarball, so you could compile your own.  If you would like a prebuilt 
copy of wsprsim[.exe] or jt65sim[.exe], please let me know off list.


-- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 1/4/2022 7:40 AM, Peter Berrett via wsjt-devel wrote:


Dear Developers

Can someone please help me with a question about making an audio file of 
a WSPR or JT65 transmission?


I see that there is a program for simulating a JT65 transmission (SIMJT) 
however I do not see any way of specifying the offset of the 
transmission. I vagually recall, from a couple of years ago, being able 
to generate a WSPR or JT65 audio file but being able to specify at what 
hertz the transmission started. I have forgotten how I did it however.


So for example I might have been able to generate a Wspr transmission 
starting at 0-200 hz and then another at 200-400 hz etc.


Is there a program that will allow me to generate a Wspr or JT-65 signal 
in this way or must I use WSJT to generate the audio?


Thanks Peter



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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.4 GA Release

2022-01-04 Thread Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel

Hi Saku,

I was too busy after yesterday's GA rlease of WSJT-X 2.5.4, and did not 
get around to updating the SourceForge repository.  It should be up to 
date now.


Best wishes for 2022 -- I hope it will be a better year for all of us!

-- 73, Joe, K1JT

On 1/4/2022 3:57 AM, Saku via wsjt-devel wrote:


Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.1.2022 klo 18.54:

You can also download the packages from our SourceForge site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
It may take a short time for the SourceForge site to be updated. 


Is the [remote "origin"]
     url = https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx
     fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*

not in use any more?

"git pull" gives: "Already up to date" there and it is over month since 
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[wsjt-devel] Generating an audio file of WSPR or JT-65

2022-01-04 Thread Peter Berrett via wsjt-devel



Dear Developers

Can someone please help me with a question about making an audio file of 
a WSPR or JT65 transmission?


I see that there is a program for simulating a JT65 transmission (SIMJT) 
however I do not see any way of specifying the offset of the 
transmission. I vagually recall, from a couple of years ago, being able 
to generate a WSPR or JT65 audio file but being able to specify at what 
hertz the transmission started. I have forgotten how I did it however.


So for example I might have been able to generate a Wspr transmission 
starting at 0-200 hz and then another at 200-400 hz etc.


Is there a program that will allow me to generate a Wspr or JT-65 signal 
in this way or must I use WSJT to generate the audio?


Thanks Peter



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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel
Hi Peter

This link has some Q65 examples, including simulated  one with two
different  Q65-60D signals in the passband.

 Make sure of course that you have 'single decode' in main settings
unchecked (!).

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RMdrOT7SVIrTDz4hMdmzZkfXJ2daf0yu?usp=sharing

73

Charlie G3WDG

On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 10:24, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>   at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from
> multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain how
> or when this has occurred.
>
> I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and tried
> to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.
>
> At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for
> me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not get
> either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal I have
> tried.
>
> While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from
> Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.
>
> Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple
> stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X web
> site)
>
> So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the
> same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was doing
> multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on EME during
> the recent W7GJ trip away.
>
> I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back
> and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no
>
> Still scratching my head.
>
> Regards,
> Peter, vk5pj
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Re: [wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Charles Suckling via wsjt-devel
Hi Peter

This link has some Q65 examples, including simulated  one with two
different  Q65-60D signals in the passband.

 Make sure of course that you have 'single decode' in main settings
unchecked (!).

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1RMdrOT7SVIrTDz4hMdmzZkfXJ2daf0yu?usp=sharing

73

Charlie G3WDG



On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 at 10:24, Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel <
wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> wrote:

> Hi,
>   at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from
> multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain how
> or when this has occurred.
>
> I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and tried
> to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.
>
> At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for
> me, the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not get
> either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal I have
> tried.
>
> While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from
> Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.
>
> Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple
> stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X web
> site)
>
> So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the
> same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was doing
> multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on EME during
> the recent W7GJ trip away.
>
> I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back
> and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no
>
> Still scratching my head.
>
> Regards,
> Peter, vk5pj
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[wsjt-devel] Q65 decoder only decodes only one of multiple signals in passband

2022-01-04 Thread Peter Sumner via wsjt-devel
Hi,
  at some point the Q65 decoder engine has stopped showing decodes from
multiple signals in the WSJT-X passband and I am at a loss to explain how
or when this has occurred.

I have downloaded the sample files from the main Pulsar web site and tried
to follow the Q65 quick start guide to no avail.

At this point none of the Q65-30A sample WAV files produce a decode for me,
the single sample for Q65-60A seems to have two signals but can not get
either to decode no matter what combination of Fast, Deep or Normal I have
tried.

While I have successfully had some Q65 contacts to the USA today from
Australia, it is making me doubt the results of the decoder.

Does anyone in the group have some proven Sample WAV files with multiple
stations in a period I could try? (other than the ones from the WSJT-X web
site)

So far tried WSJT-X version, 2.4, 2.50, 2.51 and 2.54 with the
same result.  I know this used to work for me as in June July it was doing
multi pass decoding on the openings to the EU and was working on EME during
the recent W7GJ trip away.

I am leaning to this being a problem with a windows update as going back
and testing with v2.4 should have given me good results but alas no

Still scratching my head.

Regards,
Peter, vk5pj
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Re: [wsjt-devel] WSJT-X 2.5.4 GA Release

2022-01-04 Thread Saku via wsjt-devel


Joe Taylor via wsjt-devel kirjoitti 3.1.2022 klo 18.54:

You can also download the packages from our SourceForge site:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/wsjt/files/
It may take a short time for the SourceForge site to be updated. 


Is the [remote "origin"]
    url = https://git.code.sf.net/p/wsjt/wsjtx
    fetch = +refs/heads/*:refs/remotes/origin/*

not in use any more?

"git pull" gives: "Already up to date" there and it is over month since 
last "git pull" was issued.


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Saku
OH1KH



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