Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
Ps: The JPEG's supplied show changes in Tx frequency when the "Tx spinner-box" widget has its "up" control selected while transmitting ! -Original Message- From: Stephen VK3SIR Sent: Thursday, 21 May 2020 7:24 AM To: WSJT software development Subject: Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting Joe and the Core Development Team, Test environ: The Main FT-991 connected to a 80m Doublet (v2.2 rc1); Second environ is a FT-897D with SCU-17 into a dummy load (v2.1.2). Test band is 20m. I can confirm as that on FT8 transmissions that frequency changes on Tx are blocked. But... Yet the Tx function may not be blocked on all modes and universally. - The spinner control does permit frequency changes while Tune is selected (minor). See attached Tune.jpg - Of considerable concern is that frequency changes are permitted on JT65. See attached JT65.jpg. No further modes are tested due to time constraints. As suggested, perhaps the and simplest way to implement a common fix across all modes for the future enhancement may be to disable input to the control during any Tx cycles? 73 Steve I VK3VM / VK3SIR ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
Joe and the Core Development Team, Test environ: The Main FT-991 connected to a 80m Doublet (v2.2 rc1); Second environ is a FT-897D with SCU-17 into a dummy load (v2.1.2). Test band is 20m. I can confirm as that on FT8 transmissions that frequency changes on Tx are blocked. But... Yet the Tx function may not be blocked on all modes and universally. - The spinner control does permit frequency changes while Tune is selected (minor). See attached Tune.jpg - Of considerable concern is that frequency changes are permitted on JT65. See attached JT65.jpg. No further modes are tested due to time constraints. As suggested, perhaps the and simplest way to implement a common fix across all modes for the future enhancement may be to disable input to the control during any Tx cycles? 73 Steve I VK3VM / VK3SIR ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
Steve -- On 5/19/2020 4:23 PM, Stephen VK3SIR wrote: Are changes to the frequency of any audio stream than can be adjusted through the "Audio Tx Widget" also blocked during a Tx cycle? As you could easily discover for yourself, such changes are not allowed during a transmission unless "Allow Tx freequency changes while transmitting" is checked. [ If not, perhaps then they should be? I could foresee the simplest way to overcome this could be disabling the "Audio Tx Widget" for input during a Tx and while "Allow Tx Frequency Changes..." is not checked ] Did you try?? That spin control IS disabled when you are transmitting. -- Joe, K1JT ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
Joe, Thanks for the clarification. Also thanks for the notification for us all in posts to others that rc2 is imminent. Thanks also for the reminder to everyone participating that we should head to the documentation before posting. I was aware of the documentation having been there first before posting (as all should do). There is a subsequent possible observation and hence question that is thrown up; I'll try to put this as simply as possible as you have considerably more important tasks to perform: Behaviours that I have observed do not necessarily relate solely to CAT-code sending - more the "offset" of the transmitted audio stream and its frequency to the transceiver. Are changes to the frequency of any audio stream than can be adjusted through the "Audio Tx Widget" also blocked during a Tx cycle? [ If not, perhaps then they should be? I could foresee the simplest way to overcome this could be disabling the "Audio Tx Widget" for input during a Tx and while "Allow Tx Frequency Changes..." is not checked ] Thanks Joe to you and the core development team; GREAT work. RC candidate software release time can be soul destroying but is highly necessary ... 73 Steve I VK3VM / VK3SIR ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
Steve -- On 5/19/2020 00:15, Stephen VK3SIR wrote: Does the "Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting" (File/Settings/General Tab) when not-checked function as intended? Yes. When this option is not checked, frequency-changing CAT commands will not be sent to your radio. My expectation would be that if disabled that any frequency changes observed in the Tx spin-box widget on the Main Window should be delayed until the end of the cycle and should not be immediate (or perhaps these boxes disabled until the end of the cycle) under this circumstance. Here's the User Guide statement about the option "Allow Tx frequency changes while transmitting". You'll find it here, in Section 8.1: http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/wsjtx-doc/wsjtx-main-2.2.0-rc1.html#VHF_SETUP "If you will use automatic Doppler tracking and your radio accepts frequency-setting commands while transmitting, check *Allow Tx frequency changes while transmitting*. Transceivers known to permit such changes include the IC-735, IC-756 Pro II, IC-910-H, FT-847, TS-590S, TS-590SG, TS-2000 (with Rev 9 or later firmware upgrade), Flex 1500 and 5000, HPSDR, Anan-10, Anan-100, and KX3. To gain full benefit of Doppler tracking your radio should allow frequency changes under CAT control in 1 Hz steps." -- 73, Joe, K1JT ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
On 19/05/2020 05:15, Stephen VK3SIR wrote: Hi Folks, Does the "Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting" (File/Settings/General Tab) when not-checked function as intended? My expectation would be that if disabled that any frequency changes observed in the Tx spin-box widget on the Main Window should be delayed until the end of the cycle and should not be immediate (or perhaps these boxes disabled until the end of the cycle) under this circumstance. I just performed a slight frequency change on 20m while transmitting and noted that in the "Rx Frequency Window" that a frequency change during the Tx cycle from 851 to 899 to 900 Hz was noted. 035400 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035405 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035408 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035410 Tx 899 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035430 Tx 900 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035500 Tx 900 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 I have also observed some frequency shifts on waterfalls that may or may not be related to this. I cannot recall any inquiry on this so far and if I have missed it my apologies. 73 Steve I VK3VM / VK3SIR Hi Steve, that option is intended for rigs that do not accept CAT QSY commands while transmitting, e.g. the Yaesu FT-817/857/897(D) and others. If no "Settings->Radio->Split Operating" options are selected then you can change the Tx audio offset at will since no QSY commands will be sent to the rig. 73 Bill G4WJS. ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
Re: [wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
An oddity related to this is that checking "Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting" is required not just for Tx, but also for Rx frequency changes while transmitting. When not checked, when transmitting, both Tx and Rx spinners are grayed out, and left-clicking on the waterfall does nothing. A small thing, but was there in 2.1 also. Now 2.2.0-rc1, Windows 10 Pro 64 bit, IC-7300 via USB connection. 73, Paul K6PO On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 9:21 PM Stephen VK3SIR wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Does the "Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting" > (File/Settings/General Tab) when not-checked function as intended? > > My expectation would be that if disabled that any frequency changes > observed in the Tx spin-box widget on the Main Window should be delayed > until the end of the cycle and should not be immediate (or perhaps these > boxes disabled until the end of the cycle) under this circumstance. > > I just performed a slight frequency change on 20m while transmitting and > noted that in the "Rx Frequency Window" that a frequency change during the > Tx cycle from 851 to 899 to 900 Hz was noted. > > 035400 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 > 035405 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 > 035408 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 > 035410 Tx 899 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 > 035430 Tx 900 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 > 035500 Tx 900 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 > > I have also observed some frequency shifts on waterfalls that may or may > not be related to this. > > I cannot recall any inquiry on this so far and if I have missed it my > apologies. > > 73 > > Steve I > VK3VM / VK3SIR > > > ___ > wsjt-devel mailing list > wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel > ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
[wsjt-devel] 2.2.0 rc1 - Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting
Hi Folks, Does the "Allow Tx Frequency Changes While Transmitting" (File/Settings/General Tab) when not-checked function as intended? My expectation would be that if disabled that any frequency changes observed in the Tx spin-box widget on the Main Window should be delayed until the end of the cycle and should not be immediate (or perhaps these boxes disabled until the end of the cycle) under this circumstance. I just performed a slight frequency change on 20m while transmitting and noted that in the "Rx Frequency Window" that a frequency change during the Tx cycle from 851 to 899 to 900 Hz was noted. 035400 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035405 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035408 Tx 851 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035410 Tx 899 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035430 Tx 900 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 035500 Tx 900 ~ CQ VK3VM QF11 I have also observed some frequency shifts on waterfalls that may or may not be related to this. I cannot recall any inquiry on this so far and if I have missed it my apologies. 73 Steve I VK3VM / VK3SIR ___ wsjt-devel mailing list wsjt-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wsjt-devel
