Re: [Xpert]To xfs, or not to xfs? Is the question...(Was: Bug#147898: xserver-xfree86: freeze when using TrueType with Xinerama)

2002-05-25 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 09:14:02AM +0100, Jos? Fonseca wrote:
> What are the differences for a desktop user between using xfs or X's own 
> Xft? Which one is better?

Xft and xfs don't fill the same role at all. Xft is the client-side font
rendering component (used with the RENDER extension) for anti-aliased
fonts. xfs is a separate-process font server (as a complement to, or
replacement for, locally-specified fontpaths in XF86Config[-4]).
Supposedly in some configurations it can lower font-rendering latency
(of course, it doesn't affect apps that use the RENDER extension for
font drawing - the fonts there are drawn in the client process space).
It also introduces the liability that your X server can hang if it loses
its communication channel with the font server.

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Re: [Xpert]RE: RADEON VE SIGNED DRIVERS UPDATES QUESTION

2002-05-18 Thread Derrik Pates

On Fri, May 17, 2002 at 07:20:47PM -0700, H. P. wrote:
> Have a Radeon VE, and Creative Savage4 video cards. 
> 
> They work perfectly until I Try to load Commanche4
> 
> Commanche4 plays the trailer then tries to load game but fails. 
> It crashes back to the desktop when game menu appears.
> 
> Comanche4 C/S says that I need "Signed or Certified Microsoft lab tested drivers" 
>even though the Directx drivers are 8.1 and pass the DXDIAG tests for Draw and 3d.
> 
> None of the web sites have updates for this upgrade and fix.

Are you even running X? Doesn't sound like it to me. If you're running
Windows, as I suspect, you could call Microsoft, and see if they'll help
you (not likely), or if either of your video card manufacturers will
(also not likely).

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Re: [Xpert]Howto turn off virtual screens?

2002-05-13 Thread Derrik Pates

On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 12:12:38PM +0200, Eric Noack wrote:
> Does anybody know how to turn of the bigger virtual desktop size, when changing to 
>lower resolutions?
> 
> Once upon a time(was it an 3.x Xserver, i dont remember) it was possible to set the
> "Virtual"
> Option in the "Display" Subsection of the "Screen" section
> in "XFree86Config"
> to a lower setting than your maximum mode, which lead to using of a higher virtual 
>resolution only if i changed to a higher mode than i set in Virtual.

I don't think so. That's not how X works, afaik. With X, once the root
window (and its dimensions) are established, it stays that way
throughout the session.

> Now my question again, is it possible to turn the usage of a virtual desktop off? 
>(and how)

Wait for the XRandR (resize/rotate) extension to make its way into a
release version of XFree86. It will add provisions for changing the real
desktop dimensions (and dynamically rotating the display in mid-session
too).

> PPS: Of course its possible to work around my specific problem by letting wine grab 
>the cursor completely, or not to use Windoze games at all, but that's another 
>question 

Use a recent version of Wine, install the WineSetup tool, and enable
DirectX cursor grabbing. That will allow Windows programs that use the
DirectInput APIs to keep the mouse cursor within their window (this is
off by default).

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Testing opengl

2002-04-21 Thread Derrik Pates

On Fri, Apr 19, 2002 at 06:27:16AM -0500, Ian Truelsen wrote:
> Running Linux with 2.4.19 kernel and X 4.2.0 

> I am at 16bpp, as I read the notes on the card. 

> Yeah, I have read everything that I could find there. 

Have you tried running 'LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo' at a prompt in X?
The dual-head setup may stop DRI from working correctly, unless you
don't have libglide3x.so (or don't have the right one).

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Re: [Xpert]ATI Rage XL XV support

2002-04-16 Thread Derrik Pates

On Tue, Apr 16, 2002 at 09:41:07PM -0500, Ian Truelsen wrote:
> I was looking at the mailing list archive and there were several questions 
> from about a year ago wondering whether the ATI Rage XL based cards would 
> be getting XV support. The answer was that it was in the works. I could 
> find nothing else about it. Does anyone know when/whether these cards have 
> or will have XV support added for them any time soon? 

Check out http://gatos.sf.net/. They have drivers for XFree86 that
support the hardware scaling/colorspace conversion engine on the Mach64
chipsets.

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Re: [Xpert]XFree86 version 4.2.0 and SiS 6326 compatibility

2002-04-11 Thread Derrik Pates

On Wed, Apr 10, 2002 at 07:49:32PM -0700, Dick Lewis wrote:
>   1. While libglide2x.so wasn't present on my system, that
>  in itself was likely not a problem;

Why would you need this anyway? libglide2x is only for standalone 3D
mode on Voodoo3/Banshee and for all 3D only Voodoo boards (Voodoo and
Voodoo2). Unless you want the X server to use the 'glide' driver to use
an old Voodoo/Voodoo2 board as a second head, you don't need the
libglide2x.so library. 

Repeat: Glide is 100% NOT relevant with an SiS chipset.

>   2. That I could be using an obsolete X configuration file.
>Could not load the shared library file for Glide: "libglide2x.so"! 

What are you getting this from? I'm not convinced you're getting this
from the X server itself. The error you got in your X server output log
seems to indicate the new SiS drivers just don't grok the chip for some
reason (old rev? old BIOS? something else?)

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Re: [Xpert]xvideo overlay and xinerama

2002-03-24 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, Mar 23, 2002 at 06:30:25PM -0800, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
>If in a non-Xinerama multihead situation the overlay on each
> head works individually, then it should work in Xinerama.
> 
>When you say you were able to get either head to work, was
> that with both cards running simultaneouly in a non-Xinerama
> multihead mode?

I've had dual Voodoos (a Voodoo3 2000 PCI and a Voodoo5 5500 AGP) with
XVideo working across both (could stretch a widescreen movie trailer,
playing in Xine, across the 2, and it worked great - CPU use < 10% all
the time, on a PIII-650). Is this somehow specific to just having cards
of the same type? Or just paired Voodoo boards?

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Re: [Xpert]Extension GLX missing

2002-03-12 Thread Derrik Pates

On Wed, Mar 13, 2002 at 02:46:31PM +1100, Dave Horsfall wrote:
> Yes, I searched the archives, but the solutions therein don't seem to
> apply here.

You're displaying X apps to an Xplora Xterminal. It only knows the X
extensions that are built into Xncdxpl (not a whole lot). The extensions
involve X-server-side code - since the X server doesn't support them,
you can't use them. Sorry.

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Re: [Xpert]Cannot establish any listening sockets

2002-02-26 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, Feb 23, 2002 at 09:19:14AM -0800, Doug Fong wrote:
> and when i attempt to run startx I get the following error
> Fatal server error:
> Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't
> already running.

Have you used either 'lsof' or 'netstat -lnp --inet' to see what's
holding the socket open? It has to be something holding it open, and one
of those should be able to help you find out what the problem is.

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Re: [Xpert]NVIDIA drivers on PowerPC

2002-02-09 Thread Derrik Pates

On Fri, 8 Feb 2002, Isreal Packard wrote:

>I hope this is an appropriate question to direct here. I saw a reference
> on Usenet that indicates I might get some direction here. Basically, as a
> complete novice, I'd like to know how to get the display working on my
> GeForce 2?

Well, the complexity of that is going to afffected by a few things. What
type of display are you trying to drive? VGA, or a DVI flat panel? What
version of XFree86 do you have installed? What kernel?

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Re: [Xpert]very confused about Direct rendering

2002-02-08 Thread Derrik Pates

On 8 Feb 2002, Brenden Conte wrote:

> So i have a banshee (Creative labs, 16M, AGP), on a 2.4.17 debian
> system.  and i'm trying to get as much out of it as i can, being an old
> card.  I've been trying to get direct rendering to work, using (if
> anyone is familiar with them) mesag3-glide2 and the device3dfx module.
> glxinfo works and says Direct rendering is on, but i need to set
> MESA_GLX_FX.  once i do that and run it again, it locks the system hard
> (no matter if i specify window or fullscreen)

You're using the wrong GL library then. Are you using XFree86 4.1.0? If
so, you should have 'xlibmesa3' installed on your system. You'll probably
also have to install the 'libglide3' package, and build and load the
'tdfx' DRM module (it's in the kernel).

> i've been fishing around the web for answers, which made me even more
> confused as ever... :-\  Do i need to use the kernel module for the
> banshee as well? should i not build it (its built as a module now)? am i
> doing it all wrong, using outdated methods?  Do i need a certain glide
> version for this card?

The 'libglide3' package will link the right Glide lib for your needs
automatically. But yes, the method you're using is severely outdated, if
you're using XFree 4.1.0 (which if you have glxinfo, I suspect is the
case).

> I would love to get glide working on this card, and any help (including
> directions to other people who would know more) would be very much
> appreciated...

You won't be using Glide itself, but OpenGL (which links the glide
library through the tdfx_drm.so module). Once you've installed libglide3,
put the whole concept of Glide as an application-level interface out of
your head, it's 100% totally irrelevant.

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Re: [Xpert]How exactly do I get DRI working ?!?!

2002-02-01 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sun, 27 Jan 2002, OS wrote:

> Okay, here we go ! I've tried the following on an ATI Rage 128 RL and a Rage
> Mobility Pro chipset.

The R128 will do DRI, the Mobility Pro (which I believe is a
Mach64-derived design) will not - at least, not yet. Support for
Mach64-based 3D-enabled cores is in the works.

> I modprobed agpgart and it duly appeared with a useage counter of 0. I then
> modprobed r128. It too showed a useage count of 0, but the agpgart useage
> count had gone up to 1.

That's right - because the r128 DRM uses the AGPGART interface.

> I couldn't find a module called mtrr, perhaps Mandrake doesn't ship with that
> module ?

It's never a module, it's either built into your kernel or it's not. If
/proc/mtrr exists, then (a) it's built into the kernel, and (b) your CPU
supports MTRR (it's a CPU feature - K6-2s stepping 8 and up, K6-3s,
Athlons, some Cyrix chips, and P2/P3/P4 (including Celerons) have MTRRs or
a close analog).

> The XFree86 log file indicates that XF doesn't baulk at any of the modules it
> loads. It happily loads dri, drm, glx etc.. But no where does it say "dri
> enabled". Anyway, it's attached.

It looks like you may need to add a line that says 'Load "dri"' in your
Module section. Otherwise the X server itself doesn't know about DRI, or
the setup for it or anything else.

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Second card in the Mac G4

2002-01-30 Thread Derrik Pates

On Wed, 30 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> >I wonder if we could use RAC for this, anyone with more knowledge of how RAC
> >works cares to comment ?
>
> It's my understanding that the domain patches (which are now in the trunk
> afaik) will handle this. I haven't had a chance to try them out yet on
> PPC though.

Don't these cards still need to be softbooted somehow though? Or is that
really all it'll take to make them work?

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Re: [Xpert]drm and kernel

2002-01-26 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 26 Jan 2002, Jeremy West wrote:

> Please!! Please!!! I have been fighting dri for the last couple of
> months.  If someone could help me I would be really happy.  In my XFree
> log it says :

> What does this mean.  I went into my /dev/dri directory and found that I
> have a card1, card2, and card3.  So I used mknod, and created a card0
> based off of the major and minor numbers for the others.  I then
> restarted the Xserver.  I get the same error.  I went back into the
> /dev/dri folder, and  the node had been deleted.  What is up with that.
>  The kernel module "radeon" is also not loaded, which is what I need.
>  If I shut down X and run insmod on that module it comes back with lots
> of errors.

If you have a custom-built kernel, make sure you have AGP GART support,
and Radeon DRM support, either built into your kernel or built as modules.
DRI will not work without them. If you have the module already as you
claim, what missing symbols is it complaining about? Maybe you need to
rebuild the kernel?

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Re: [Xpert]XFree 4.1.0 and DRM kernel modules for XFree86 4.2.0

2002-01-24 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Cyril Zlachevsky wrote:

> > > I have 3dfx velocity 100 videocard, Athlon 1.33 GHz on SiS 735 chipset

3Dfx Velocity 100? I've never heard of this. How closely related to the
Voodoo3/5 is it? Does it use the 'tdfx' drivers? I find the same sort of
issues running UT on my home box with a Voodoo5 and a P3-650.

> > Can this be related to the recently discovered AMD-AGP bug?

This would not be likely, since if it's a Voodoo-based card (as I
suspect), it doesn't actually make use of the GART anyway - it just uses
the AGP bus as a faster PCI bus, basically.

> About  wrong texture colours with Unreal Tournament 436 - on XFree 4.2.0 I
> can't found this problem - possibly, error fixed in 4.2.0. But I found
> another problem - UT freeze on high rendering quality in game video
> settings.

Do you see "rainbow"ed textures in the opening sequence in particular?
Also, texture corruption in the menus?

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Re: [Xpert] Ati Radeon M7 (7500 Mobile) on Inspiron 8100

2002-01-24 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 24 Jan 2002, Markus Kohli wrote:

> I've just ordered a Dell Inspiron with the Ati Radeon 7500 Mobile Chip.
> Now I've crawled through thousands of webpages, but neither any
> newsgroup nor mailinglist nor site did reveal what I was looking for...
> Does the new XFree86 4.2.0 support this chipset? I've read that it
> supports at least 2D now on Ati Radeon 7500/8500, but not a word about
> the mobile version.

Don't know what the PCI ID would be on a Mobility M7. You could look in
the source and see if its PCI ID is listed. If it's supported, you will
probably be able to find it.

> And another question: dri.sourceforge.net says that the new DRI-version
> also supports 3D on the 7500. That thing isn't yet included in the new
> Xfree Release, is it?

Yes, it is. The 7000/7200/7500 designs are closely related to the
"classic" Radeon design - enough so that apparently not too many changes
were required to get the existing code to work with them. The 8500,
however, is substantially different from the rest of the Radeon family,
requiring new drivers (and for it, 3D support is not yet available as part
of XFree, at least to my knowledge).

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Re: [Xpert]S3 problem

2002-01-18 Thread Derrik Pates

On Fri, 18 Jan 2002, Kevin Brosius wrote:

> > VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc.: Unknown device 8d01 (rev 02)

> Have you tried 'X -configure' as root?  It tries to generate a config
> file for you.  Follow the printed directions to test.

I'm sure the version of XFree he's using (he said 4.0.1) probably doesn't
have support for that chip. A 'grep'ing of a recent XFree source tree
finds that PCI device ID as being for an S3 Twister/P, which is apparently
a Savage-family design. I don't know for sure, but I'm betting he will
have to move up to at least 4.1.0 (maybe the upcoming 4.2.0?) before it'll
work out of the box with XFree86.

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Re: [Xpert]6412DVD

2002-01-17 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 17 Jan 2002, ramil john recto wrote:

> I have an Advent 6412DVD laptop and I just installed a
> windows XP.  My problem is when I install  an extelnal
> CD-RW, which is Freecom, my laptop is comfused between
> my internal CD ROM/DVD ROM with Freecom external CD-R.
>
> Whenever I insert a disc in my internal CD ROM and
> explore its contents, a pop out message says invalid
> drive. Do you have an updated driver for 6412DVD CD
> ROM/DVD Rom for windows XP?

And what does this have to do with XFree86? (Hint: nothing.) This is not a
Windows mailing list - it's related to the X Window System, particularly
the XFree86 Project's distribution of it. Please read
http://www.xfree86.org/ to learn more. Then, maybe you can install a Linux
distribution, and be on topic. :)

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Re: [Xpert]X crashes .

2002-01-17 Thread Derrik Pates

On Wed, 16 Jan 2002, Vincenzo Di Massa wrote:

> X 4.1.0 crashes when I try tu run 3d apps.
> I think I configured everything right.
> Any suggestion?
> I don't know what could it be wrong.
> Can you tell me where to look to find the problem?.

Can you be in the least specific? Like, what video card you're using? What
distribution? Maybe your XF86Config file or something? There are several
boards that have DRI (hardware 3D) support, and many possible
configurations, so you really need to narrow it down.

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Re: [Xpert]radeon and glx problem (RTCW hangs system)

2002-01-14 Thread Derrik Pates

On Mon, 14 Jan 2002, Jacek [iso-8859-2] Pop³awski wrote:

> [drm:radeon_freelist_get] *ERROR* returning NULL!

I frequently see a similar message (but s/radeon/r128/) when I try to use
AGP on this iBook with a Rage Mobility M3, and it frequently leads up to a
system hang here as well (not running RtCW, of course, but trying to run
Quake or TuxRacer). I don't know if it's an AGPGART problem, or a DRM
problem. With a Rage128 descendant, of course, PCI GART can be used, but
it's a good bit slower than 2X AGP would be...

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Re: [Xpert]ATI Radeon VE and xinerama

2002-01-14 Thread Derrik Pates

On 14 Jan 2002, Niclas Sodergard wrote:

> I have a ATI Radeon VE and I am trying to get xinerama to work with
> that. It seems to configure both screens but the second screen remains
> black. It doesn't matter which way I connect them. The second screen
> seems to get some kind of signal since the "No signal"-banner disappers
> when I start X.

Have you tried specifying 'Option "CrtScreen"' for the second-head
configuration? I remember seeing something about that being a necessary
option. (FYI, I don't have a laptop with a Radeon, so I don't know if this
does anything. Might work, might do nothing, might induce meltdown. :)

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Re: [Xpert]DGA requires SUID/root access???

2002-01-13 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sun, 13 Jan 2002, Dr Andrew C Aitchison wrote:

> You can use drivers like fbdev, in which case I believe dga can (perhaps
> this is still theoretical) use /dev/fbdev instead of /dev/mem, and not
> need SUID root.

Yes, and someone else (Mark V?) was saying that this could be easily done
with DGA instead of using /dev/mem, if framebuffer devices were more
universally available.

> The other reason that dga is not a good idea is :
> "Why should XFree86 provide a mechanism for direct framebuffer access anyway ?"
>  If the app isn't interested in using the X protocol to drive the screen
> (and DRI and XV show that that can be plenty fast enough), the app should
> just chvt to a free virtual terminal and use svgalib instead.

Because yes, then you get access to the framebuffer, but then that's one
more library that has to be maintained for (mainly initialization)
supporting the different boards out there. Is anyone even maintaining
SVGAlib anymore? And SVGAlib still doesn't avert the whole SUID root
issue.

Fact is, once a program starts using DGA, and gets access to the
framebuffer, from its perspective one video card works the same as
another. That's the advantage of DGA. Unfortunately, as you mentioned, the
SUID root thing is a serious downside.

> Games developers need big control over their machines, and must surely
> be trusted with the machine ? Perhaps making /dev/mem group writable
> by the user of each machine might be sensible in that sort of restricted
> environment ?

I really doubt that anyone's going to be playing a 2D sidescroller on a
multiuser system, physically at the console. It'd probably be (a) a home
box, in which case, they have root and can install it themselves, or (b)
it's probably a workstation/lab type scenario, and stuff like that
shouldn't be running on a machine like that anyhow.

Of course, with most modern game titles aiming toward 3D hardware (OpenGL
on Linux, OGL/D3D on Win32), Linux 3D game titles just use DRI outright,
which doesn't require that nasty SUID bit at all.

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Re: [Xpert]Unresolved symbols in r128_drv

2002-01-12 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, Mike Heald wrote:

> Thanks, but I cannot find a DRM kernel module
> in CVS, I have checkedout xc and done
> make World, but there is no r128.o when its done.
> Is there another module i should be checking out?

It's in the CVS tree. Look under
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel - yes, it's a
long path, but it's in there. Do 'make -f Makefile.linux' in that
directory, and it'll make all the DRM modules (r128, radeon, tdfx, ...),
or do 'make -f Makefile.linux r128.o' for just the Rage128 DRM.

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Re: [Xpert]DGA requires SUID/root access???

2002-01-10 Thread Derrik Pates

Sorry if this is a "sort-of-repeat", I thought I sent it.

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, Billy Biggs wrote:

>   1. We don't have kernel-level video drivers, so we can't safely mmap
> to a user app sections of video memory.

Right.

>   2. Giving a user full access to the framebuffer is dangerous so only
> let root do it.

Sort of. In theory, it could be made sufficiently safe (that's what the
GGI crew wanted to do with KGI).

>   That is, there's no reason you need full access to /dev/mem just to
> write to the framebuffer, it's just some silliness because of the way
> everything is architectured.   I'd love to find out the real reason
> though.

If we had framebuffer drivers in the kernel for everything, it'd be OK
(then you just have to mediate access between X and the kernel framebuffer
driver). However, in the current situation, mapping /dev/mem is necessary.
Userspace processes don't know anything about the real physical addressing
of memory normally (and they don't have to care - the whole beauty of
virtual memory systems), allowing each process to kick around in its
littlee sandbox without bugging anybody else. However, to directly access
the framebuffer as it stands, via DGA, a process tells X it wants to do
DGA - then the X server tells it the framebuffer base address (an offset
into physical memory where the display device's framebuffer memory lives),
the size of it, and the line width. The process then opens /dev/mem,
mmap()s the framebuffer by offset and length. Unfortunately, allowing
access to /dev/mem opens us up to an untrusted program proceeding to
scribble on whatever it wants in system RAM. (Among all the other things
it can do as root.) Which is why you have to be picky about what programs
you make SUID root, of course. :)

One good reason why the DirectFB project wouldn't be such a bad thing.

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Re: [Xpert]DGA requires SUID/root access???

2002-01-10 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, David Balazic wrote:

> Yes, one process can give a file descriptor to another. It is an interesting
> UNIX feature that many people do not know, so they go and write terrible
> "solutions" of their own.

Still a bad idea - the userspace process can then proceed to scribble on
anything anywhere in memory (/dev/mem is _all_ of memory - all MMIO
devices, physical RAM, everything). At least if it's SUID root, someone
had to make it that way (or your package system did it) as root.

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Re: [Xpert]DGA requires SUID/root access???

2002-01-10 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002, David Balazic wrote:

> Couldn't the X server process open /dev/mem and then pass the file descriptor
> to the X client ?

They're not running in the same process context. The X client communicates
with the X server via either TCP sockets or UNIX domain sockets (UNIX
domain sockets for local apps), but they run as completely separate
processes.

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Re: [Xpert]DGA requires SUID/root access???

2002-01-10 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 10 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> That's true for the install but not when the user is running the app, which
> is what I'm worried about.
> Surely, we don't need SUID just to display graphics?

For the program that's using DGA to open and mmap() /dev/mem, it has to
be root. That's part of doing DGA. That's why it's called _direct_.

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Re: [Xpert]Radeon 7000 QD (32Mb DDR)

2002-01-05 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 5 Jan 2002, Mike Mestnik wrote:

> Is this really worth trying, dose this enable direct rendering?
> Can you play Quake Arena (The only thing that matters!)?
> I have a Radeon 8500 might this work with my card to?

No. The Radeon 7000/7200/7500 boards's display controller is closely
related to the "original" Radeon, enough so that this should theoretically
work. The 8500, however, has some significant differences from both the
7x00 Radeons and the "original" Radeon that make it truly incompatible
with XFree86 4.1.0's Radeon driver. However, there's a 2D-only Radeon 8500
driver in XFree CVS now, which would at least get the board working.

I don't know ATI's intentions as far at Linux 3D support for the Radeon
8500 goes though. Anyone else know what the scoop is there?

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[Xpert]Softbooting video card on PPC with OF ROMs

2002-01-04 Thread Derrik Pates

Has there been any development in this department? I was wondering if the
Mac-On-Linux OpenFirmware/OpenPROM implementation (minimal, but maybe
enough) would be a potential basis to make something like this work, as
part of an int10-like module. Any thoughts?

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Re: [Xpert]Voodoo 4 4500 AGP

2002-01-03 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Paulo Vitor Magacho da Silva wrote:

> First, sorry for the very long email that I am sending.
> So you are saying that I don't need the tdfx_dri.so file anymore ?

You need that library. XFree's libGL is just an intermediary, it uses that
library to talk to 3Dfx boards to do direct rendering.

> (II) TDFX(0): [DRI] installation complete <
> (==) TDFX(0): Direct rendering enabled<

> What it's wrong, what else do I need ? I have the opengl library provided by the 
>XFree 4.1.0, I
> also have installed the Mesa-utils 3.4.1 libs and the glide libraries. I can't use 
>any program that
> need hardware acceleration, such as tuxracer.

Say what? Please say you didn't overwrite your libGL. First, do 'ldd
/usr/X11R6/bin/glxinfo' and make sure it's linking the correct libGL.
Second, as Michel said, run 'LIBGL_DEBUG=1 glxinfo' and see if it spits
out any errors. You may need to look at /dev/dri/* and see if the
permissions are set correctly for you to access the DRI devnode. If not,
'man XF86Config' is your friend. Look for info on the DRI section.

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Re: [Xpert]ati rage mobility 128 only Xvideo shows half the screen

2001-12-22 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 22 Dec 2001, Ryan C. Stallings wrote:

>   I am trying to get video playback to work correctly on my ibm a22p laptop
> (with ati rage mobility 128 on it -- 1600x1200 16bpp).  Whenever I use Xvideo
> (playing an mpeg for example) the video is stretched horizontally 2x, but the
> window is not.  Therefore the I only see the left half of the video.  The

I have not seen this behavior. Or at least, not with the iBook I have in
front of me (with a Rage Mobility M3 with 8 MB of video RAM and an 800x600
LCD panel). What does 'lspci' or 'XFree86 -scanpci' have to say about the
card? Have you tried running the display at a lower resolution, then
playing video? Does that have any effect?

Can you send your XF86Config and /var/log/XFree86.0.log? Without some
more-detailed feedback, I don't think anyone will be able to give you any
useful help.

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Re: [Xpert]Abridged: Total frustration with XFree86 4.1.0!

2001-12-17 Thread Derrik Pates

On Mon, 17 Dec 2001, Mac Cody wrote:

> Interesting. :-\  I would have thought that interlace support
> would be in place since XFree86 is at version 4.1.0 already
> and support was there in XFree86 3.3.6.  Anywhere I could find
> out whether that is the case or not (short of investigating the
> sources)?  If interlace support is missing, I guess I'll have
> to fall back to XFree 3.3.6 for now [sigh!].

Well, XFree86 underwent some serious reworking with the debut of the 4.x
line - moving away from monolithic X servers, and moving towards modules
for everything, with one smaller base server. Not a lot of attention had
initially been paid to moving the old-style 3.x drivers for many old
boards (pre-ViRGE S3 boards, older Cirrus and Trident boards had also
fallen victim to this), as much of the redesign was intended to allow
support for more-advanced features like the XVideo and DRI subsystems.
Only recently have those really old drivers been ported forward to the new
modular architecture.

So you may need to stay with 3.3.x for now, or if you're up to it, try
hacking in interlaced-mode support. That's about all you can do, until
someone eventually gets the drivers for the older boards fully ported up.

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Re: [Xpert]where do keycodes originate?

2001-12-11 Thread Derrik Pates

On Tue, 11 Dec 2001, Paul Fox wrote:

> i still don't get any events from my "internet keys" though.  is there
> something else i have to turn on or enable?  the other odd thing is that
> the ctrl:swapcaps setting doesn't seem to work for me, making me think
> i really have screwed something up.  bear in mind that i've been running
> in XkbDisable mode for years until trying this -- it's not that i just
> changed from "pc101" to "itouch".

Did you try to run 'showkey' at the console, and press the "internet" keys
on your keyboard? Did they then generate events there? Some USB keyboards
with the extended feature keys like that have a separate USB HID device
that (afaik) Linux's USB HID driver doesn't yet handle.

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Re: [Xpert]Secrets to getting XFree86 working on PPC?

2001-12-08 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Mark Vojkovich wrote:

>   I've been trying to get XFree86 CVS to work on Linux PPC.
> Is this expected to work?  I'm using the "nv" driver with
> NV11 with Option "NoAccel", something which others have
> allegedly gotten to work.  This is on a YDL 2.0 system.
> Basically, the system hardlocks sometime after finishing
> the PreInit.

Ani Joshi made some patches against both XFree86 and the kernel sources to
adapt the nVidia drivers in each to work on big-endian systems (esp. PPC
systems). I don't know if his patch against the 'nv' driver in XFree ever
made into the CVS mainline tree. I've attached both patches to this
message, so if it's not in CVS, you can try the patch instead.

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diff -uNr nv.orig/nv_driver.c nv/nv_driver.c

--- nv.orig/nv_driver.c Sun Oct  7 22:28:30 2001

+++ nv/nv_driver.c  Sun Oct  7 22:28:35 2001

@@ -885,7 +885,7 @@

 

 pNv->Primary = xf86IsPrimaryPci(pNv->PciInfo);

 

-#ifndef __alpha__

+#if !defined(__alpha__) || !defined(__powerpc__)

 /* Initialize the card through int10 interface if needed */

 #if 0

  if ( !pNv->Primary &&)

@@ -1280,9 +1280,9 @@



 pNv->FbMapSize = pScrn->videoRam * 1024;

 

+#if 0

 /* Read and print the Monitor DDC info */

 pScrn->monitor->DDC = NVdoDDC(pScrn);

-#if 0

 /*

  * This code was for testing. It will be removed as soon

  * as this is integrated into the common level.

@@ -1610,6 +1610,18 @@

 if ( pNv->Restore )

 (*pNv->Restore)(pScrn, vgaReg, nvReg, FALSE);

 

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+/* turn on LFB swapping */

+{

+   unsigned char tmp;

+

+   VGA_WR08(pNv->riva.PCIO, 0x3d4, 0x46);

+   tmp = VGA_RD08(pNv->riva.PCIO, 0x3d5);

+   tmp |= (1 << 7);

+   VGA_WR08(pNv->riva.PCIO, 0x3d5, tmp);

+}

+#endif

+

 NVResetGraphics(pScrn);

 

 vgaHWProtect(pScrn, FALSE);

@@ -1933,7 +1945,14 @@

 vgaRegPtr vgaReg = &pVga->SavedReg;

 

 DEBUG(xf86DrvMsg(pScrn->scrnIndex, X_INFO, "NVSave\n"));

+#if defined(__powerpc__)

+/* temporary hack to get around PowerMac's inability to save

+ * vga fonts and cmap, will find a better solution later

+ */

+vgaHWSave(pScrn, vgaReg, VGA_SR_MODE);

+#else

 vgaHWSave(pScrn, vgaReg, VGA_SR_CMAP|VGA_SR_MODE|VGA_SR_FONTS);

+#endif

 pNv->riva.UnloadStateExt(&pNv->riva, nvReg);

 }

 

diff -uNr nv.orig/nv_xaa.c nv/nv_xaa.c

--- nv.orig/nv_xaa.cSun Oct  7 22:28:30 2001

+++ nv/nv_xaa.c Sun Oct  7 22:28:35 2001

@@ -596,8 +596,12 @@

 NVSubsequentMono8x8PatternFillRect;

 

 /* Color expansion */

-infoPtr->ScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFillFlags = 

+infoPtr->ScanlineCPUToScreenColorExpandFillFlags =

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+   BIT_ORDER_IN_BYTE_MSBFIRST | 

+#else

BIT_ORDER_IN_BYTE_LSBFIRST | 

+#endif

NO_PLANEMASK | 

CPU_TRANSFER_PAD_DWORD |

LEFT_EDGE_CLIPPING |

diff -uNr nv.orig/riva_hw.c nv/riva_hw.c

--- nv.orig/riva_hw.c   Sun Oct  7 22:28:30 2001

+++ nv/riva_hw.cSun Oct  7 22:28:35 2001

@@ -1656,6 +1656,11 @@

 int pan= (start & 3) << 1;

 unsigned char tmp;

 

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+/* turn on big endian register access */

+chip->PMC[0x0004/4] = 0x0101;

+#endif

+

 /*

  * Unlock extended registers.

  */

diff -uNr nv.orig/riva_hw.h nv/riva_hw.h

--- nv.orig/riva_hw.h   Sun Oct  7 22:28:30 2001

+++ nv/riva_hw.hSun Oct  7 22:28:35 2001

@@ -60,8 +60,12 @@

 typedef volatile struct

 {

 U032 reserved00[4];

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+U032 FifoFree;

+#else

 U016 FifoFree;

 U016 Nop;

+#endif

 U032 reserved01[0x0BB];

 U032 Rop3;

 } RivaRop;

@@ -71,8 +75,12 @@

 typedef volatile struct

 {

 U032 reserved00[4];

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+U032 FifoFree;

+#else

 U016 FifoFree;

 U016 Nop;

+#endif

 U032 reserved01[0x0BD];

 U032 Shape;

 U032 reserved03[0x001];

@@ -86,8 +94,12 @@

 typedef volatile struct

 {

 U032 reserved00[4];

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+U032 FifoFree;

+#else

 U016 FifoFree;

 U016 Nop;

+#endif

 U032 reserved01[0x0BB];

 U032 TopLeft;

 U032 WidthHeight;

@@ -98,8 +110,12 @@

 typedef volatile struct

 {

 U032 reserved00[4];

+#if X_BYTE_ORDER == X_BIG_ENDIAN

+   

Re: [Xpert]DVI-D-savvy drivers?

2001-12-08 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 8 Dec 2001, Brian McGroarty wrote:

> Which, if any, drivers support DVI-D displays?
>
> I've a multi-headed flat panel system, using multiple nvidia cards
> under Windows. The nvidia driver doesn't support multiple cards
> properly, and the nv driver doesn't seem to support DVI-D displays at
> all. I'm wondering which cards I should replace my secondary/tertiary
> cards with in order to have 3 DVI heads.

At present, to use a DVI display with an nVidia board, you have to use
nVidia's binary-only driver pack. I don't know if this will ever change.

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Re: [Xpert]Re: Rage128 (esp. RageM3) bad line length issue - Ifigured it out...

2001-12-04 Thread Derrik Pates

On 4 Dec 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> If that's the problem, then the fix should be to query the pitch (i.e.
> displayWidth) from the framebuffer device. There is an
> fbdevHWGetLineLength() function for this. Derrik says it's also broken
> without Option "UseFBDev" though.

Yes, when the X server worked on PPC without "UseFBDev" - which it doesn't
right now - I did see the same effect, regardless of whether I specified
"UseFBDev" or not.

Also, is the fix that you came up with available as a patch against the
4.1.0.1 tree that Debian is using at present, so I can just build my own
local X server package and use that until 4.2.0 is released, and packages
for it make their way into Sid? I could, I suppose, use a local parallel X
install, but I'd rather not, if for no other reason than saving disk space
for other stuff. :)

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Re: [Xpert]popup windows

2001-12-04 Thread Derrik Pates

On Tue, 4 Dec 2001, Daniel Secrieru wrote:

> They don't have a title bar.

And that's why there are WM hints, so you can tell the WM "hey, don't
decorate me!"

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Re: [Xpert]No Screens on XFree86

2001-12-01 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sun, 2 Dec 2001, David Loszewski wrote:

> I just installed XFree86-4.1.0, after I finished installing it I did the
> 'XFree86 -configure' and it made my configuration file, so then I type
> 'startx' and this is the error it gives me:

Did you copy the created config file (./XF86Config.new) to
/etc/X11/XF86Config? If not, that probably explains why the log is
claiming that it couldn't open the config file.

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Re: [Xpert]ATI Question

2001-11-30 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Gene Dascher wrote:

> Does anyone know who I need to talk to about seeing if it would be possible
> to get the ATI Rage128 Mobility card (I have a Dell Inspiron 5000e) in
> dual-display mode under XFree86?  It works wonderfully under Win98SE (ATI's
> drivers), so I don't see why it isn't POSSIBLE under X.

Others have discussed this very thing. (Check the list archives for more
info.) The only real problem is getting the right docs to the right people
to make it happen.

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[Xpert]Rage128 (esp. RageM3) bad line length issue - I figured it out...

2001-11-27 Thread Derrik Pates

I finally determined why it is that the XFree Rage128 driver always gets
the wrong framebuffer row width. In XFree 4.1.0's source, in
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/r128_driver.c, lines 1105 to
1118 call XF86ValidateModes with a minPitch of 8 * 64 (512) and a max
pitch of 8 * 1024 (8192). The default pitch increment value is 64 *
pScrn->bitsPerPixel, such that the row width is ALWAYS a multiple of 64.
However, on the Rage M3 that laptops with an 800x600 LCD panel, like the
original iBook and iBookSE (and the FireWire versions) are outfitted with,
the 800-pixel row width is NOT, EVER, a multiple of 64. I tried changing
the pitch increment to 16 * pScrn->bitsPerPixel, and the X server then
correctly determined the real row width (of 800 pixels) by itself, with no
forcing and no other help. Please correct this before 4.2.0's release -
the CVS HEAD version has the same (too large) pitch increment, and should
be corrected.

Also, sorry about the crosspost to three lists, but I believe that this is
relevant to all these lists. If you reply to this message, please remove
references to the other mailing lists.

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Re: [Xpert]Hotplug USB mice

2001-11-04 Thread Derrik Pates

On 4 Nov 2001, Sean Middleditch wrote:

> Third, and most importantly, I was wonderin how to solve a little
> issue...  I have a latop with a touchpad, and I bought a USB mouse for
> it.  Now, I have it configured so if when X starts up, and both mice are
> plugged in, they both work.  but, if I plug in the USB mouse after X
> starts, I have to restart X to get it to work, even tho the hotplug
> scripts detect and configure the mouse.

What mouse device are you using in your XF86Config? I recommend using
/dev/input/mice, which will encompass any attached USB mouse devices.

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Re: [Xpert]changing resolution

2001-10-23 Thread Derrik Pates

On Tue, 23 Oct 2001, Louis Lu wrote:

>I am using the Intel i810, and have multi-resolution setup for
> my Xwindow.  However, I usually press Ctrl - Alt - (+ /-) three keys
> to change the resolution (eg. from 800x600 to 640x480, back and
> forth).  I just wondering whether or not, the way I change the
> resolution can be done through the coding?  I mean such as creating
> a simple GUI with two buttons for each resolution.

Yes, this can be done using the XFree86-VidModeExtension. Modes can be
removed and added, as well as cycled through, using this extension.

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Re: [Xpert]Rage128 dualhead on PowerPC - never got an answer

2001-10-20 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Ani Joshi wrote:

> Can you try running the server with Option "SWcursor" in both of your r128
> "Device " sections?  This is needed for 2 radeon's setup, perhaps its the
> same for r128.

Already tried that. Even tried the "NoAccel" option. Same result - signal
11 every time. (Unless of course, it crashes.)

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Re: [Xpert]Rage128 dualhead on PowerPC - never got an answer

2001-10-20 Thread Derrik Pates

On 20 Oct 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> > Are there any fixes in CVS that might help?
>
> Possibly, can it hurt to try? :)

I got a CVS build setup and installed, but XFree still dies with a signal
11 on startup (sometimes it never returns, locking the system). Does
anyone have a working setup like what I'm trying for - dualhead on Linux
on a PowerPC with XFree 4.x and two Rage128s? Anybody have any pointers?

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[Xpert]Rage128 dualhead on PowerPC - never got an answer

2001-10-19 Thread Derrik Pates

I've asked this before, and never really got an answer...

Does anyone know if, and how, to get 2 Rage128 RE's (both Apple PCI) to
work with XFree in a dualhead configuration? Preferably with Xinerama? Are
there any fixes in CVS that might help? Whenever I try to get XFree
(4.1.0.1 binaries from Debian sid/PPC) to start both heads (without
Xinerama), it ends up dying with signal 11 before it can get both heads
started. I have gotten dualhead to work in MacOS, so I know the card works
fine. Anyone have any pointers?

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Re: [Xpert]Problem with Radeon Vivo 64DDR

2001-10-05 Thread Derrik Pates

On Fri, 5 Oct 2001, AV72 wrote:

> I've installed my Mandrake8 and upgraded XFree86 to the version 4.1.0 to
> enable the accelleration of this card, but something doesn't work yet.
> I've looked at my XF86Config-4 and added the line Load "gfx" but i've no
> better result .

You mean Load "glx" or Load "dri"? There is no "gfx" X server module.

> When i try to run a 3D application i recive this error message:
> Xlib:  extension "NV-GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
> NV: could not open control device /dev/nvidiactl (Permission denied)
> Segmentation fault

That's from nVidia's binary driver package. You need to remove the nVidia
libGL, libGLcore, and all the other modules for it, and install the
standard GL libraries before you'll be able to hardware GL with it.

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Re: [Xpert]the Xserver for ibook2

2001-09-30 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sun, 30 Sep 2001, neal elliott wrote:

> Thanks for the info. the ibook2 is very sexy hardware. I'm going to
> install xfree86 4.1.0
> Though I am really starting to hate suse I wish redhat would start
> puting out a ppc version.

Why not Debian?

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Re: Other multihead setups (was Re: [Xpert]Matrox G450AGP + G450PCI)

2001-09-20 Thread Derrik Pates

On Thu, 20 Sep 2001, Michel Dänzer wrote:

> It should work. What version are you trying? I seem to remember Xinerama
> problems in 4.1.0 which are fixed in CVS.

I'm using thhe 4.1.0-6 debs at present. The system I'm using I haven't
even gotten around to trying to enable Xinerama - it always dies with a
signal 11 (even avfter moving the int10 module out of
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules, as one message I'd seen about a similar setup
suggested).

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Re: [Xpert]EGA-Cards on XFree ?

2001-09-19 Thread Derrik Pates

On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Michael Hess wrote:

> I have a nice display (lcd) with 640x480 but it needs to be driven by
> digital signals. My Idee was to take an old EGA-Card i have here (AST3G)
> and if i'm right, EGA is digital. Now my question is, does anyone know,
> if EGA-cards are supported in anyway by XFree ? (And which one are
> supported ?)

EGA? EGA is _not_ digital, it's _very_ analog, and pretty old. Far as I
know, even XFree 3.3.x didn't support anything less than a standard VGA
display device. Are you sure it's an EGA card you have?

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Re: [Xpert]Please help with my Viper V550

2001-09-17 Thread Derrik Pates

On Mon, 17 Sep 2001, Martin Olveyra wrote:

> Yes! Finally I have discovered the symptom, but not the cause.
> If I run X as root, all my GL apps works fine!
> This seems a permission problem but, what permission exactly? Any idea?

Try checking perms in the /dev/dri directory.

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Other multihead setups (was Re: [Xpert]Matrox G450AGP + G450PCI)

2001-09-16 Thread Derrik Pates

Ok, not exactly related, but I wanted to find out if it would work - has
anyone been able to get more than one ATI Rage128 working in a system?
Particularly in a non-x86 system (in my case an Apple PPC G3 box)? I've
tried to get such a setup working, but XFree86 (including the 4.1.0
release bins) just dies with signal 11 every time (after coming up with
a blue root-weave-ish image). Has anyone gotten this to work? Will it ever
work?

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Re: [Xpert]TGUI9440 and video modes

2001-09-09 Thread Derrik Pates

On Sat, 8 Sep 2001, Jyrinx . wrote:

> I'm trying to get XF86 to work with a Trident TGUI9440 video card. The
> server will only start up in 640x480x8-bit mode. The log reports that it
> refuses to use the default mode, "800x600," citing a "bad mode
> clock/interlace/doublescan."

What version of XFree86 are you using? A 3.3.x release? A 4.x release?
Something older? A CVS build?

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