Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread marc rosen
Hello Mr (or is this  the Mrs?) Skull,
I apologize if my question appeared accusatory- I did not mean that at all.  On 
most of the Zappa related groups I've gone to there are many questions asked in 
jest that appear to be serious (Does Humor belong in an Email group?)  
Sometimes a very esoteric reference will be made just to see what responses it 
will provoke.  
Again, I meant no insult but I was truly wondering if you were serious.

Marc (who is also merely a Zappa fan)
  - Original Message - 
  From: mr_and_mrs_skull 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:10 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?


  Again, I've always known him as Napoleon Murphy Brock. Maybe i'm just not hip 
enough to be in on this, seeing as how I'm merely a Zappa fan. Don't care 
about ZPZ's, Project Object etc. I just like Frank and what he did so I may be 
a bit of a clueless outsider.
Are you serious about this question?  
 Marc
  - Original Message - 
  From: mr_and_mrs_skull 
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?


  Who the hell is this Nappy person anyhow?
All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years 
tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make 
a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White.

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying 
that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in?
 
 Concerned for Nappy,
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread peter doyle
as i understand it. gail zappa is a real bitch. she sorta reminds me of hillary 
clinton

mr_and_mrs_skull [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Who the hell is this 
Nappy person anyhow?
All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years 
tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make 
a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White.

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying 
that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in?
 
 Concerned for Nappy,
 David
 
 
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[Zappa-List] Re: ZPZ DVD Back in Stock - For Now!

2008-01-16 Thread SteveM
Could someone post some additional info on this DVD? Such as, a  
tracklisting, maybe? It would be nice if Barfko-Swill/Music Today  
would have something other than just a Buy It link on their page

Thanks!

Steve






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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: ZPZ DVD Back in Stock - For Now!

2008-01-16 Thread Jurgen Verfaillie

Here you go:
http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Zappa_Plays_Zappa
http://wiki.killuglyradio.com/wiki/Zappa_Plays_Zappa_%28The_Film%29


YM
On 16 Jan 2008, at 16:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Could someone post some additional info on this DVD? Such as, a
tracklisting, maybe? It would be nice if Barfko-Swill/Music Today
would have something other than just a Buy It link on their page

Thanks!

Steve





Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull
Honestly, no. Truth is I've never conversed with any *serious* Zappa fans until 
this list. I've met many who really like him, have seen shows, own recorded 
material but that's it. If it ever was uttered in any of the recordings of live 
shows I've watched or heard, I missed it.
  Sincere question: In your years of Zappa fandom, you've never heard / read 
anyone refer to him by the diminutive Nappy (or Napi)?

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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull
I was just thinking about the Society Pages last night. Is it still being 
printed?
  I'm sure I picked it up somewhere online, if not here then maybe a.f.f-z - 
but you're right, I don't ever remember reading the term in either Motherpeople 
or Society Pages. Rest assured it's a fond diminutive. It does my heart good to 
see Ray White getting in there with a different mix of songs but at the same 
time it breaks my heart to think of Napoleon being treated unfairly (again). 
imho YMMV

  David


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  -Original Message-
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  Sent: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 9:12 pm
  Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?


  In a message dated 1/15/08 10:11:14 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
I always knew him as Napoleon Murphy Brock.
  Sincere question: In your years of Zappa fandom, you've never heard / read 
anyone refer to him by the diminutive Nappy (or Napi)?

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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull
It's cool. No ffense taken. My response was not intended to be nasty, I just 
was trying to get across that I've lived my life in a bit of a bubble when it 
comes to Zappa. The only other person I know who is serious about Frank is my 
wife. Even the guy who turned me onto Frank in High School eventually got over 
him whatever in the hell that means. 

Yes, humor belongs in e-mail groups, like music. But without facial 
expressions, tove of voice and vcal inflection we tend to misinterpret each 
other
  Hello Mr (or is this  the Mrs?) Skull,
  I apologize if my question appeared accusatory- I did not mean that at all.  
On most of the Zappa related groups I've gone to there are many questions asked 
in jest that appear to be serious (Does Humor belong in an Email group?)  
Sometimes a very esoteric reference will be made just to see what responses it 
will provoke.  
  Again, I meant no insult but I was truly wondering if you were serious.

  Marc (who is also merely a Zappa fan)
- Original Message - 
From: mr_and_mrs_skull 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 10:10 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?


Again, I've always known him as Napoleon Murphy Brock. Maybe i'm just not 
hip enough to be in on this, seeing as how I'm merely a Zappa fan. Don't care 
about ZPZ's, Project Object etc. I just like Frank and what he did so I may be 
a bit of a clueless outsider.
  Are you serious about this question?  
   Marc
- Original Message - 
From: mr_and_mrs_skull 
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?


Who the hell is this Nappy person anyhow?
  All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past 
years 
  tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't 
make 
  a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White.

  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying 
  that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in?
   
   Concerned for Nappy,
   David
   
   
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[Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread Eli Marcus
Hey,
I've been a sworn Zappa fan for 35 years, and I hadn't heard the term 
Nappy 'till now,
I only figured out from the context of the first two messages in the 
thread that it was Napolean Murphy Brock...

I ordered tickets online months in advance, and traveled half way around 
the world to see the ZPZ show in Toronto,
and I really was hoping and praying that Napolean would be the guest star,
I certainly enjoyed Ray White immensely, and even shook his hand as he 
was heading off stage at the end,
but if Napolean were there, it would have been more of a legendary 
experience for me

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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread Bill Amutis
  For what it's worth, I never called Napoleon Nappy  
either and wouldn't be surprised if he smacked my condescending ass  
one for that, either.
  On the alleged thread of this I heard from backstage talk  
(so take it with a grain of salt) that there was always some tension  
in the ZFT camp since Napoleon would not agree to work exclusively  
for the Zappa Plays Zappa band.  He was not about to turn down a gig  
with Project/Object or any other Zappa tribute outfit that was not   
authorized by the Zappa Family Trust.
  As I said, this was hearsay so take it as such, although  
it does make a certain amount of logic (if not sense).



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On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:37 PM, John Gobetz wrote:



Hmmm---well, that offers some explanation as to the reasoning of  
why I saw Ray White at the ZPZ show in Tulsa last year instead of  
Nappy  other FZ alumni---mind you, Ray did a great job, even tho'  
I hadn't expected him to be there---things must be getting really  
funky over at the ZFT---hope they get it together---I wanna see ZPZ  
again!---keep it cool Nappy!!---we're all pullin' for ya!!!---john  
G in kansas

- Original Message -
From: kevcaf1
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past  
years
tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't  
make

a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White.

--- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying
that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in?

 Concerned for Nappy,
 David


 See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois


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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread peter doyle
i've been a zappa fan for 35+ years myself. i have never heard the nappy term 
either. 
it sounds a bit racist to me. would frank approve of it? or did he call 
napolean nappy?

Eli Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hey,
I've been a sworn Zappa fan for 35 years, and I hadn't heard the term 
Nappy 'till now,
I only figured out from the context of the first two messages in the 
thread that it was Napolean Murphy Brock...

I ordered tickets online months in advance, and traveled half way around 
the world to see the ZPZ show in Toronto,
and I really was hoping and praying that Napolean would be the guest star,
I certainly enjoyed Ray White immensely, and even shook his hand as he 
was heading off stage at the end,
but if Napolean were there, it would have been more of a legendary 
experience for me

-- 
Eli Marcus
www.EliMarcus.com
blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com
http://www.myspace.com/elisblues 

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Tomorrow is a mystery, 
And today? today is a gift, 
That's why we call it the present.
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread dblspace
Great, the R word has reared its ugly head, so let me apologize for using the 
term in the first place.

David


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-Original Message-
From: peter doyle [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 16 Jan 2008 12:30 pm
Subject: Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?








i've been a zappa fan for 35+ years myself. i have never heard the nappy term 
either. 

? it sounds a bit racist to me. would frank approve of it? or did he call 
napolean nappy?

Eli Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hey,
I've been a sworn Zappa fan for 35 years, and I hadn't heard the term 
Nappy 'till now,
I only figured out from the context of the first two messages in the 
thread that it was Napolean Murphy Brock...

I ordered tickets online months in advance, and traveled half way around 
the world to see the ZPZ show in Toronto,
and I really was hoping and praying that Napolean would be the guest star,
I certainly enjoyed Ray White immensely, and even shook his hand as he 
was heading off stage at the end,
but if Napolean were there, it would have been more of a legendary 
experience for me

-- 
Eli Marcus
www.EliMarcus.com
blog: http://elisblues.blogspot.com
http://www.myspace.com/elisblues 

Yesterday is history,
Tomorrow is a mystery, 
And today? today is a gift, 
That's why we call it the present.
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread Milhouse481
 
In a message dated 1/16/08 4:46:09 PM Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

Great, the R word has reared its ugly head, so let me apologize for using 
the term in the first place.

Ok, let's not get too Ridiculous here (another important R word.)
 
Fans and even band members have used the affectionate diminutive Napi or 
Nappy for Napoleon Murphy Brock for a long time. I refer you to the first 
time 
and place I ever heard or saw it used, in A Definitive Tribute to Frank 
Zappa special magazine published by the Guitar Player magazine group circa 
spring 
1994.
 
This quote, from an interview with Peter Wolf, originally published in 
Keyboard Magazine in 1980.
 
Q: Were there any particular weak points in the band when you were with Frank?
Wolf: The one thing that was not very strong in our band was the vocal part. 
[Guitarist] Adrian Belew and [drummer] Terry Bozzio could sing some, but that 
was it. Tommy could sing some backup, but there was not one guy in the band 
who was a monster lead singer like Nappy [Brock] was.
 
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Re: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?

2008-01-16 Thread mr_and_mrs_skull
Looks like You, Eli and myself are outsiders...


For what it's worth, I never called Napoleon Nappy either and 
wouldn't be surprised if he smacked my condescending ass one for that, either.
On the alleged thread of this I heard from backstage talk (so take 
it with a grain of salt) that there was always some tension in the ZFT camp 
since Napoleon would not agree to work exclusively for the Zappa Plays Zappa 
band.  He was not about to turn down a gig with Project/Object or any other 
Zappa tribute outfit that was not  authorized by the Zappa Family Trust.
As I said, this was hearsay so take it as such, although it does 
make a certain amount of logic (if not sense).




  Not Dead Yet,


  Bill Amutis
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  web.mac.com/mredison
  (Ol' Baggy Eyes)


  Progress is not possible without deviation from the norm-Frank Zappa




  On Jan 15, 2008, at 7:37 PM, John Gobetz wrote:




Hmmm---well, that offers some explanation as to the reasoning of why I saw 
Ray White at the ZPZ show in Tulsa last year instead of Nappy  other FZ 
alumni---mind you, Ray did a great job, even tho' I hadn't expected him to be 
there---things must be getting really funky over at the ZFT---hope they get it 
together---I wanna see ZPZ again!---keep it cool Nappy!!---we're all pullin' 
for ya!!!---john G in kansas
  - Original Message -
  From: kevcaf1
  To: Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2008 2:53 PM
  Subject: [Zappa-List] Re: Nappy's Fate?


  All I know is that Nappy was origianlly penciled in for this past years 
  tour but something must have happened because he said he couldn't make 
  a deal with the devil (GZ). That was why they got Ray White.

  --- In Zappa-List@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   I read a hint of something not fully explained on a web site saying 
  that the ZFT had done Nappy wrong - could someone possibly clue me in?
   
   Concerned for Nappy,
   David
   
   
   See me on MySpace at: www.myspace.com/davidblanglois
   
   
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