Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-10 Thread Chris Emura
On Jan 10, 2008 3:46 AM, Toby Thain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 9-Jan-08, at 10:26 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:
>
> > As I mentioned, ZFS is still BETA, so there are (and likely will be)
> > some issues turn up with compatibility with the upper layers of the
> > system if that's what you're referring to.
>
>
> Two potential areas come immediately to mind - case sensitivity (HFS+
> was traditionally not), and resource forks (UFS dispensed with them).
> I never ran an OS X system on UFS myself, but it's not surprising
> that some parts of the system/applications chafed at a case
> sensitive, data fork fs, although Apple does support it.

Case-insensitivity "support" for ZFS is already present, but hasn't
been ported or tested yet on OS X.

As for the resource fork, ZFS supports named streams/EAs natively so
this won't be a problem.  Even with our old implementation of UFS,
resource fork support and functionally was still 100% present, though
admittedly 2nd class via Apple Double or those "turd" files we're all
fond of.


Chris
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-10 Thread Shawn Ferry

On Jan 9, 2008, at 7:38 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:

> Yep, these issues are known and I've listed them with explanations on
> on our website under "The State of the ZFS on OS X World":
> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>
> We're working on them.  The Trash and iTunes bugs should be fixed
> soon.  The "your non-replicated drive just went MIA" panic will take a
> little longer as it requires a more complex fix that will need to
> involve diskutil and friends while also preserving the integrity of
> your pool and all the data therin.

I don't have any non-replicated drives so I never ran into this
particular issue. The panics when brining devices online were
always for mirrors.

I realize that I wasn't clear before. Since the by request only 101
and continuing with the 102A release, I have been able to do rude things
to the external portion of my mirrors without experiencing a panic.


> This is also a problem the Solaris
> ZFS team is working on as well, it's just not as common that people
> rip out live drives from a Thumper :)

That was almost the first thing I did when we got one to play with :)

>
>
> Noel
>
> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Shawn Ferry wrote:
>
>> Noël,
>>
>> To try and get regular use out of ZFS on OS X I moved all of my
>> Music directory a mirrored pool implemented as a slice of my internal
>> disk and a FW enclosure.
>>
>> There are a few issues I see in using ZFS for end user applications
>> at the moment.
>>
>> 1) Trash doesn't work
>>  You adding files to the trash seems to work but you
>>  can't empty it without manually going to the .Trashes
>>  directory and manually removing files
>> 2) You can't download new iTunes Store music through iTunes
>>  iTunes can download podcasts and add new music from
>>  local files even using the consolidate music option
>> 3) It was somewhat prone to causing panics
>>  mainly bringing devices back online or rudely disconnecting
>>  them
>> 4) once the kext is loaded it appears that any user can perform any
>> action e.g. anybody can create or delete a snapshot or a pool
>>
>> Shawn
>>
>> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:
>>
 As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a
 spare
 MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>>
>>> Sweet deal :)
>>>
 So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you
 tried
 a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>>
>>> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.   
>>> Then
>>> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
>>> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
>>> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of  
>>> which
>>> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed  
>>> it
>>> to use that directory for my home dir.
>>> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
>>> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
>>> able to just offer it natively that way.
>>>
>>> Noel
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Joe Block wrote:
>>>
 Thanks for the pointer. I had just checked ADC for a new download
 this
 morning, actually.

 As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a
 spare
 MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.

 So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you
 tried
 a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)

 On Jan 8, 2008 2:09 PM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
 wrote:
> Hey everyone,
>
> This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X
> port is
> now posted for your viewing fun at:
>
> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>
> The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under  
> "ZFS
> Ports":
> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/
>
> This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a
> small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more  
> as
> time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries
> that
> you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac,  
> are
> running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.
> Comments, questions, suggestions and feedback are all very  
> welcome.
> I also want to point out this is BETA.  We're still working on
> getting
> some features going, as well as fleshing out issues with Finder,
> Disk
> Util, iTunes, and other parts of the system.  So when I say
> bleeding,
> I'm not kidding :)  However I'm excited to say that I'm happily
> running ZFS as my home directory on my MacBook Pro which is what I
> work off of every day, and am running weekly snapshots which I  
> 'zfs
> send' to my external drive.  Oh happy day.
>
> thanks!
> Noel Dellofano
>

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-10 Thread Toby Thain

On 9-Jan-08, at 10:26 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:

> As I mentioned, ZFS is still BETA, so there are (and likely will be)
> some issues turn up with compatibility with the upper layers of the
> system if that's what you're referring to.


Two potential areas come immediately to mind - case sensitivity (HFS+  
was traditionally not), and resource forks (UFS dispensed with them).  
I never ran an OS X system on UFS myself, but it's not surprising  
that some parts of the system/applications chafed at a case  
sensitive, data fork fs, although Apple does support it.

--Toby

> But we're working hard on
> fixing these as they come up.   So end goal is there shouldn't be any
> weird compatibility issues with the rest system.
>
> Noel
>
> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Scott Laird wrote:
>
>> On Jan 9, 2008 11:26 AM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a
 spare
 MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>>
>>> Sweet deal :)
>>>
 So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you
 tried
 a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>>
>>> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.   
>>> Then
>>> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
>>> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
>>> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of  
>>> which
>>> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and  
>>> pointed it
>>> to use that directory for my home dir.
>>> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
>>> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
>>> able to just offer it natively that way.
>>
>> So Leopard is able to use ZFS without any of the weird compatibility
>> problems that used to plague UFS users?
>>
>>
>> Scott
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Scott Laird
Okay, great.  I've been enjoying ZFS on my home OpenSolaris box, and I
have a new multi-drive Mac in my near future, and I'd love to have ZFS
as an option at some point.


Scott

On Jan 9, 2008 4:26 PM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As I mentioned, ZFS is still BETA, so there are (and likely will be)
> some issues turn up with compatibility with the upper layers of the
> system if that's what you're referring to.  But we're working hard on
> fixing these as they come up.   So end goal is there shouldn't be any
> weird compatibility issues with the rest system.
>
> Noel
>
>
> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Scott Laird wrote:
>
> > On Jan 9, 2008 11:26 AM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a
> >>> spare
> >>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
> >>
> >> Sweet deal :)
> >>
> >>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you
> >>> tried
> >>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
> >>
> >> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.  Then
> >> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
> >> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
> >> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of which
> >> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed it
> >> to use that directory for my home dir.
> >> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
> >> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
> >> able to just offer it natively that way.
> >
> > So Leopard is able to use ZFS without any of the weird compatibility
> > problems that used to plague UFS users?
> >
> >
> > Scott
>
>
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Noël Dellofano
Yep, these issues are known and I've listed them with explanations on  
on our website under "The State of the ZFS on OS X World":
http://zfs.macosforge.org/

We're working on them.  The Trash and iTunes bugs should be fixed  
soon.  The "your non-replicated drive just went MIA" panic will take a  
little longer as it requires a more complex fix that will need to  
involve diskutil and friends while also preserving the integrity of  
your pool and all the data therin.  This is also a problem the Solaris  
ZFS team is working on as well, it's just not as common that people  
rip out live drives from a Thumper :)

Noel

On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Shawn Ferry wrote:

> Noël,
>
> To try and get regular use out of ZFS on OS X I moved all of my
> Music directory a mirrored pool implemented as a slice of my internal
> disk and a FW enclosure.
>
> There are a few issues I see in using ZFS for end user applications
> at the moment.
>
> 1) Trash doesn't work
>   You adding files to the trash seems to work but you
>   can't empty it without manually going to the .Trashes
>   directory and manually removing files
> 2) You can't download new iTunes Store music through iTunes
>   iTunes can download podcasts and add new music from
>   local files even using the consolidate music option
> 3) It was somewhat prone to causing panics
>   mainly bringing devices back online or rudely disconnecting
>   them
> 4) once the kext is loaded it appears that any user can perform any
> action e.g. anybody can create or delete a snapshot or a pool
>
> Shawn
>
> On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:
>
>>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a  
>>> spare
>>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>
>> Sweet deal :)
>>
>>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you  
>>> tried
>>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>
>> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.  Then
>> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
>> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
>> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of which
>> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed it
>> to use that directory for my home dir.
>> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
>> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
>> able to just offer it natively that way.
>>
>> Noel
>>
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Joe Block wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the pointer. I had just checked ADC for a new download  
>>> this
>>> morning, actually.
>>>
>>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a  
>>> spare
>>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>>
>>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you  
>>> tried
>>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2008 2:09 PM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
 Hey everyone,

 This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X  
 port is
 now posted for your viewing fun at:

 http://zfs.macosforge.org/

 The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under "ZFS
 Ports":
 http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/

 This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a
 small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more as
 time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries  
 that
 you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac, are
 running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.
 Comments, questions, suggestions and feedback are all very welcome.
 I also want to point out this is BETA.  We're still working on
 getting
 some features going, as well as fleshing out issues with Finder,  
 Disk
 Util, iTunes, and other parts of the system.  So when I say  
 bleeding,
 I'm not kidding :)  However I'm excited to say that I'm happily
 running ZFS as my home directory on my MacBook Pro which is what I
 work off of every day, and am running weekly snapshots which I 'zfs
 send' to my external drive.  Oh happy day.

 thanks!
 Noel Dellofano
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>>>
>>>
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>>> +1.650.253.7264
>>>
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> Sun Man

Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Noël Dellofano
As I mentioned, ZFS is still BETA, so there are (and likely will be)  
some issues turn up with compatibility with the upper layers of the  
system if that's what you're referring to.  But we're working hard on  
fixing these as they come up.   So end goal is there shouldn't be any  
weird compatibility issues with the rest system.

Noel

On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:38 PM, Scott Laird wrote:

> On Jan 9, 2008 11:26 AM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a  
>>> spare
>>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>
>> Sweet deal :)
>>
>>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you  
>>> tried
>>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>
>> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.  Then
>> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
>> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
>> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of which
>> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed it
>> to use that directory for my home dir.
>> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
>> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
>> able to just offer it natively that way.
>
> So Leopard is able to use ZFS without any of the weird compatibility
> problems that used to plague UFS users?
>
>
> Scott

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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Shawn Ferry
Noël,

To try and get regular use out of ZFS on OS X I moved all of my
Music directory a mirrored pool implemented as a slice of my internal
disk and a FW enclosure.

There are a few issues I see in using ZFS for end user applications
at the moment.

1) Trash doesn't work
You adding files to the trash seems to work but you
can't empty it without manually going to the .Trashes
directory and manually removing files
2) You can't download new iTunes Store music through iTunes
iTunes can download podcasts and add new music from
local files even using the consolidate music option
3) It was somewhat prone to causing panics
mainly bringing devices back online or rudely disconnecting
them
4) once the kext is loaded it appears that any user can perform any
action e.g. anybody can create or delete a snapshot or a pool

Shawn

On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:26 PM, Noël Dellofano wrote:

>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a spare
>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>
> Sweet deal :)
>
>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you  
>> tried
>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>
> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.  Then
> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of which
> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed it
> to use that directory for my home dir.
> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
> able to just offer it natively that way.
>
> Noel
>
>
> On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Joe Block wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the pointer. I had just checked ADC for a new download  
>> this
>> morning, actually.
>>
>> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a spare
>> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>>
>> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you  
>> tried
>> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2008 2:09 PM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> Hey everyone,
>>>
>>> This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X port  
>>> is
>>> now posted for your viewing fun at:
>>>
>>> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>>>
>>> The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under "ZFS
>>> Ports":
>>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/
>>>
>>> This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a
>>> small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more as
>>> time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries  
>>> that
>>> you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac, are
>>> running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.
>>> Comments, questions, suggestions and feedback are all very welcome.
>>> I also want to point out this is BETA.  We're still working on
>>> getting
>>> some features going, as well as fleshing out issues with Finder,  
>>> Disk
>>> Util, iTunes, and other parts of the system.  So when I say  
>>> bleeding,
>>> I'm not kidding :)  However I'm excited to say that I'm happily
>>> running ZFS as my home directory on my MacBook Pro which is what I
>>> work off of every day, and am running weekly snapshots which I 'zfs
>>> send' to my external drive.  Oh happy day.
>>>
>>> thanks!
>>> Noel Dellofano
>>> ___
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>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
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>> Macintosh System Administrator
>> +1.650.253.7264
>>
>> Information is the currency of democracy.
>> -Thomas Jefferson
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Scott Laird
On Jan 9, 2008 11:26 AM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a spare
> > MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>
> Sweet deal :)
>
> > So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you tried
> > a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>
> I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.  Then
> I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't
> really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current
> setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of which
> is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed it
> to use that directory for my home dir.
> I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to
> have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be
> able to just offer it natively that way.

So Leopard is able to use ZFS without any of the weird compatibility
problems that used to plague UFS users?


Scott
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Noël Dellofano
Heh, good point :)However, ZFS is only available on Leopard, since  
it requires some changes and symbols that are only part of the Leopard  
kernel.  On the plus side ZFS and Dtrace are really freakin cool so  
maybe that will help mitigate the ouch factor on the upgrade;  just  
think of all the glorious hours of engineering you're getting for one  
upgrade :)

Noel

On Jan 9, 2008, at 2:19 AM, Darren J Moffat wrote:

> Noël Dellofano wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>> This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X port  
>> is  now posted for your viewing fun at:
>> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>> The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under  
>> "ZFS  Ports":
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/
>> This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a   
>> small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more  
>> as  time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and  
>> binaries that  you can download to your hearts content.  So if you  
>> have a Mac, are  running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge  
>> please try it out.
>
> Does it need Leopard or can it work on Tiger ?  Just curious as ZFS  
> and DTrace are the only things in Leopard that are of interest to me  
> and I just can't bring myself to pay (again) to upgrade MacOS X for  
> two features that were developed for Solaris and are open source :-)
>
> Thanks.
>
> -- 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Noël Dellofano
> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a spare
> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.

Sweet deal :)

> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you tried
> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)

I currently just have one account, my personal one, to use ZFS.  Then  
I just have another local admin account that uses HFS+ that I don't  
really use for anything except occasional testing.  In my current  
setup, I created a pool, and I have 2 filesystems in it, one of which  
is my home directory.  Then I just created my  account and pointed it  
to use that directory for my home dir.
I haven't experimented with File Vault yet at all, so feel free to  
have at it.  Hopefully when we get encryption for ZFS then we'll be  
able to just offer it natively that way.

Noel


On Jan 8, 2008, at 9:17 PM, Joe Block wrote:

> Thanks for the pointer. I had just checked ADC for a new download this
> morning, actually.
>
> As soon as I get in to work and can backup my sparsebundle to a spare
> MBP, I'm going to start banging on it.
>
> So, do you have all of /Users on zfs, just one account, have you tried
> a FileVaulted account too? Or is that just crazy talk? :-)
>
> On Jan 8, 2008 2:09 PM, Noël Dellofano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Hey everyone,
>>
>> This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X port is
>> now posted for your viewing fun at:
>>
>> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
>>
>> The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under "ZFS
>> Ports":
>> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/
>>
>> This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a
>> small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more as
>> time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries that
>> you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac, are
>> running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.
>> Comments, questions, suggestions and feedback are all very welcome.
>> I also want to point out this is BETA.  We're still working on  
>> getting
>> some features going, as well as fleshing out issues with Finder, Disk
>> Util, iTunes, and other parts of the system.  So when I say bleeding,
>> I'm not kidding :)  However I'm excited to say that I'm happily
>> running ZFS as my home directory on my MacBook Pro which is what I
>> work off of every day, and am running weekly snapshots which I 'zfs
>> send' to my external drive.  Oh happy day.
>>
>> thanks!
>> Noel Dellofano
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread MC
> http://zfs.macosforge.org/

Good work to those involved :)
 
 
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Re: [zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-09 Thread Darren J Moffat
Noël Dellofano wrote:
> Hey everyone,
> 
> This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X port is  
> now posted for your viewing fun at:
> 
> http://zfs.macosforge.org/
> 
> The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under "ZFS  
> Ports":
> http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/
> 
> This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a  
> small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more as  
> time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries that  
> you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac, are  
> running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.   

Does it need Leopard or can it work on Tiger ?  Just curious as ZFS and 
DTrace are the only things in Leopard that are of interest to me and I 
just can't bring myself to pay (again) to upgrade MacOS X for two 
features that were developed for Solaris and are open source :-)

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[zfs-discuss] ZFS on OS X port now on macosforge

2008-01-08 Thread Noël Dellofano
Hey everyone,

This is just a quick announcement to say that the ZFS on OS X port is  
now posted for your viewing fun at:

http://zfs.macosforge.org/

The page is also linked off of the ZFS Open Solaris page under "ZFS  
Ports":
http://opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/porting/

This page holds the status for the ZFS on OSX port and includes a  
small FAQ, some known bugs, announcements, and will include more as  
time goes on.  It also holds the latest source code and binaries that  
you can download to your hearts content.  So if you have a Mac, are  
running Leopard, and are feeling bleeding edge please try it out.   
Comments, questions, suggestions and feedback are all very welcome.
I also want to point out this is BETA.  We're still working on getting  
some features going, as well as fleshing out issues with Finder, Disk  
Util, iTunes, and other parts of the system.  So when I say bleeding,  
I'm not kidding :)  However I'm excited to say that I'm happily  
running ZFS as my home directory on my MacBook Pro which is what I  
work off of every day, and am running weekly snapshots which I 'zfs  
send' to my external drive.  Oh happy day.

thanks!
Noel Dellofano
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