Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
Zones needs the 'resource pools' package. If you choose 'dynamic pools' (which aren't required by zones), you need Java. But why??? What does Java have to do with it? And I didn't explicitly choose dynamic pools. If one tries to install SUNWzoneu and SUNWzoner packages, eventually one inevitably needs SUNWj5rt, just by trying to satisfy all the dependencies. ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: ... Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: ... http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 There doesn't seem to be any description of *how* this was fixed. I'd assumed 'dynamic resource pools' no longer depended on java (wrongly, judging by SXCR b46). -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On 23/08/06, Jerry Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dick Davies wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: ... Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: ... http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 There doesn't seem to be any description of *how* this was fixed. I'd assumed 'dynamic resource pools' no longer depended on java (wrongly, judging by SXCR b46). In S10 there was a single pkg for pools (SUNWpool). In nevada this was split into two pkgs (SUNWpool SUNWpoold). SUNWzoneu still depends on SUNWpool, but if you look at that pkg, it no longer depends on SUNWj5rt. The SUNWpoold pkg does depend on SUNWj5rt. That makes sense - I thought the OP was asking to remove the 'dynamic resource pools' dependency on java. Thanks. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 03:36:56PM +0100, Dick Davies wrote: On 23/08/06, Jerry Jelinek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dick Davies wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: ... Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: ... http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 There doesn't seem to be any description of *how* this was fixed. I'd assumed 'dynamic resource pools' no longer depended on java (wrongly, judging by SXCR b46). In S10 there was a single pkg for pools (SUNWpool). In nevada this was split into two pkgs (SUNWpool SUNWpoold). SUNWzoneu still depends on SUNWpool, but if you look at that pkg, it no longer depends on SUNWj5rt. The SUNWpoold pkg does depend on SUNWj5rt. That makes sense - I thought the OP was asking to remove the 'dynamic resource pools' dependency on java. Thanks. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org The split of the pools functionality into multiple packages made sense for zones. The functionality provided by dynamic resource pools only applies to the global zone anyway. For the curious amongst you... We can't remove the dependency on java from Dynamic Resource Pools, without re-writing poold, since it is written in java. Gary -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
[zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On 21/08/06, UNIX admin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, Zones needs the 'resource pools' package. If you choose 'dynamic pools' (which aren't required by zones), you need Java. -- Rasputin :: Jack of All Trades - Master of Nuns http://number9.hellooperator.net/ ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: http://scsh280r1.holland.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-1-5063672-1searchclause=5063672 for more details. Gary It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: http://scsh280r1.holland.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-1-5063672-1searchclause=5063672 I'm sorry, that was the wrong URL. That's an internal site and I doubt you can access it. This might be more useful: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 Gary for more details. Gary It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
Re: [zones-discuss] Installing zones: insane dependencies
Do you know if there is a plan to make this available as an S10 patch? Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 01:03:40PM +0100, Gary Pennington wrote: On Mon, Aug 21, 2006 at 02:13:51AM -0700, UNIX admin wrote: Having built the second revision of the Run-Time Platform Solaris, I went on to install zones. Effectively it turns out that if I were to satisfy all the dependencies, I would effectively have to install more or less the entire X windowing environment. Zone packages end up needing other packages, which end up needing the SUNWj5rt package, SUNWj5rt needs a whole bunch of X-windows packages, such as SUNWxwplt and the like, which personally I find insane and totally against my goal to build a run-time platform that is as lean and as flexible as possible. Why do zone packages and eventually their dependencies like the pool package end up needing Java? As soon as Java is in the game, I can forget a lean and mean run-time platform. Java belongs in the middleware layer, not in the core operating system layer. Is this a bug? Can this be fixed? When can it be fixed? This is in Solaris 10 6/06, and most likely in Solaris 10 1/06 as well. It is fixed in Nevada. Take a look at: http://scsh280r1.holland.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-1-5063672-1searchclause=5063672 I'm sorry, that was the wrong URL. That's an internal site and I doubt you can access it. This might be more useful: http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=5063672 Gary for more details. Gary It is simply insane that I have to install Java and X-windows software to get zone functionality, i.e. satisfy package dependencies. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- Gary Pennington Solaris Kernel Development, Sun Microsystems [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org -- -- Jeff VICTOR Sun Microsystemsjeff.victor @ sun.com OS AmbassadorSr. Technical Specialist Solaris 10 Zones FAQ:http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zones/faq -- ___ zones-discuss mailing list zones-discuss@opensolaris.org
