[Zope-Checkins] SVN: Zope/trunk/inst/versions.py 2.8.0 b1
Log message for revision 30141: 2.8.0 b1 Changed: U Zope/trunk/inst/versions.py -=- Modified: Zope/trunk/inst/versions.py === --- Zope/trunk/inst/versions.py 2005-04-24 07:03:12 UTC (rev 30140) +++ Zope/trunk/inst/versions.py 2005-04-24 07:03:22 UTC (rev 30141) @@ -4,4 +4,4 @@ # always start prerelease branches with '0' to avoid upgrade # issues in RPMs -VERSION_RELEASE_TAG = 'a2' +VERSION_RELEASE_TAG = 'b1' ___ Zope-Checkins maillist - Zope-Checkins@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-checkins
[Zope-Coders] Zope Bugs, Features, and Patches Collector: Open Issues
The following supporters have open issues assigned to them in this collector
(http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope).
Assigned and Open
Brian
- ZPT not being processed with text/vnd.wap.wml mime type,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/968
Caseman
- ZCTextUndex should not hold a reference to a lexicon,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/505
- locale based sorting in ZCatalog,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/738
LRA
- FileUpload not iterable,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1199
Tiran
- Zope 2.7 doesnot serve pages to some accept-charset request headers,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1492
ajung
- manage_catalogIndexes: '# objects' is misleading,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1587
- Multilingual search gives a wrong results.,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1343
- WebDAV broken in 2.7.0-b3,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1145
- Mount-Points: documentation incomplete, behaviour surprising,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1487
- Need a way to include non-xml valid structure in ZPT attributes,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1281
chrism
- ZODBMountPoint should not monkey-patch ZODB,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1525
- poor error reporting on product initialization failure under windows,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1020
- Potential bug in Python cgi.FieldStorage can lead to problematic memory
growth,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1685
- TemporaryStorage should be made MVCC-capable on HEAD,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1526
- Lurking CPU eater in Transience,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1633
chrisw
- security.declareObjectProtected('View') appears to be buggy,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1264
- Zope 2.7.3b1 DAV server doesn't provide DAV header,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1518
- VHM and ZCatalog absolute paths,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/608
- default page encoding hardcoded to latin1,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1490
- Debug Information Illegible,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1736
- Windows Linefeeds in ZPT,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1464
ctheune
- hasattr_unacquired,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/742
- Shutdown ZEO Server under Windows,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1508
dreamcatcher
- PropertySheets xml_escape method with hardcoded encoding,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1561
efge
- default page encoding hardcoded to latin1,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1490
- ZCatalog getObject broken,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1713
evan
- Cant declare classes in Scripts with 2.7 and Python 2.3,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1074
fdrake
- ZCTextUndex should not hold a reference to a lexicon,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/505
- [Weakness] analysis of Zope startup problems (log hidden),
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1285
- FTP server does not implement MLSD or MLST,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1161
- Make possible to configure non-default logger hierarchies via zope.conf,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1555
htrd
- startup ConflictError,
[Deferred] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/300
jeremy
- Transaction Manager Brokenness,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/701
- ZODB load state error,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1204
jim
- aq_acquire on u'aq_parent',
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1738
mcdonc
- filestream_iterator handling is not implemented for FastCGI protocol.,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1647
mj
- expectMultipleRanges test should use email package,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/579
mjablonski
- Error in zmi when an object is named 'URL' or 'URL1',
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1217
slinkp
- AcceleratedHTTPCacheManager doesn't PURGE correctly for virtual hosts,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1447
tim_one
- Zope 2.8/ZODB 3.3: Update all cPickle.Pickler instances to use protocal
2,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/1519
- ZCTextUndex should not hold a reference to a lexicon,
[Accepted] http://www.zope.org/Collectors/Zope/505
- ZODB load state
[Zope-dev] 2.8.0b1 issues with plone 2.0.5
Apologies if this is already known about...
I just installed 2.8.0b1 (using python 2.3.5), fired it up, then tried to
add a 'plone site' (2.0.5). The plone site actually did get added, but
here's what I got as well:
2005-04-24 12:57:32 ERROR Zope.ZCatalog Recataloging object at
/test/test/index_html failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/ZCatalog.py,
line 298, in refreshCatalog
self.catalog_object(obj, p, pghandler=pghandler)
TypeError: catalog_object() got an unexpected keyword argument 'pghandler'
2005-04-24 12:57:34 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog
http://glenmore.dyndns.org:7080/test/test/index_html
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
113, in publish
request, bind=1)
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88,
in mapply
if debug is not None: return debug(object,args,context)
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 40,
in call_object
result=apply(object,args) # Type scr to step into published object.
File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/PortalContent.py, line
116, in __call__
return view()
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py,
line 311, in __call__
return self._bindAndExec(args, kw, None)
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py,
line 348, in _bindAndExec
return self._exec(bound_data, args, kw)
File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/FSPageTemplate.py, line
191, in _exec
result = self.pt_render(extra_context=bound_names)
File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/FSPageTemplate.py, line
124, in pt_render
result = FSPageTemplate.inheritedAttribute('pt_render')(
File
/home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/PageTemplate.py,
line 96, in pt_render
c = self.pt_getContext()
TypeError: unbound method pt_getContext() must be called with
ZopePageTemplate instance as first argument (got nothing instead)
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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.8.0b1 issues with plone 2.0.5
Plone requires currently Zope 2.7 and does not support Zope 2.8 yet.
-aj
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 13:44 Uhr +0100 Tim Hicks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Apologies if this is already known about...
I just installed 2.8.0b1 (using python 2.3.5), fired it up, then tried to
add a 'plone site' (2.0.5). The plone site actually did get added, but
here's what I got as well:
2005-04-24 12:57:32 ERROR Zope.ZCatalog Recataloging object at
/test/test/index_html failed
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Products/ZCatalog/ZCatalog.py,
line 298, in refreshCatalog
self.catalog_object(obj, p, pghandler=pghandler)
TypeError: catalog_object() got an unexpected keyword argument 'pghandler'
2005-04-24 12:57:34 ERROR Zope.SiteErrorLog
http://glenmore.dyndns.org:7080/test/test/index_html
Traceback (most recent call last):
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line
113, in publish
request, bind=1)
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 88,
in mapply
if debug is not None: return debug(object,args,context)
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 40,
in call_object
result=apply(object,args) # Type scr to step into published object.
File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/PortalContent.py, line
116, in __call__
return view()
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py,
line 311, in __call__
return self._bindAndExec(args, kw, None)
File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Shared/DC/Scripts/Bindings.py,
line 348, in _bindAndExec
return self._exec(bound_data, args, kw)
File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/FSPageTemplate.py, line
191, in _exec
result = self.pt_render(extra_context=bound_names)
File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/FSPageTemplate.py, line
124, in pt_render
result = FSPageTemplate.inheritedAttribute('pt_render')(
File
/home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/Products/PageTemplates/PageTemplate.py
, line 96, in pt_render
c = self.pt_getContext()
TypeError: unbound method pt_getContext() must be called with
ZopePageTemplate instance as first argument (got nothing instead)
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Re: [Zope-dev] 2.8.0b1 issues with plone 2.0.5
Tim Hicks said: File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 40, in call_object result=apply(object,args) # Type scr to step into published object. File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/PortalContent.py, line 116, in __call__ return view() Eek, just noticed that for some reason I seem to have some 2.7.4b2 mixed up in here. Not sure how/why that would happen. I have one copy of all my products and then symlink to them for each of my zope instances. Could it be the cause of my problem? tim ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] 2.8.0b1 issues with plone 2.0.5
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 13:49 Uhr +0100 Tim Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tim Hicks said: File /home/tim/zope/2.8.0b1/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 40, in call_object result=apply(object,args) # Type scr to step into published object. File /home/tim/zope/2.7.4b2/Products/CMFCore/PortalContent.py, line 116, in __call__ return view() Eek, just noticed that for some reason I seem to have some 2.7.4b2 mixed up in here. Not sure how/why that would happen. I have one copy of all my products and then symlink to them for each of my zope instances. Could it be the cause of my problem? As said you should stick with the supported and recommended software versions (for now). -aj pgpFWHuvA3NGX.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: BTreeFolder2 for Zope 2.8?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: Any objections to move BTreeFolder2 into the Zope core for Zope 2.8? BTF is widely used in the Zope, CMF Plone world and it would not hurt to ship it with Zope. Shane, OK with you? Tres. - -- === Tres Seaver[EMAIL PROTECTED] Zope Corporation Zope Dealers http://www.zope.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCbBezGqWXf00rNCgRAizWAJ9jdHC2Tme0P4VzQTCk5zrLWW85owCeJSQH EluHyriviB/oigsaFDFSNDg= =ZXcn -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: BTreeFolder2 for Zope 2.8?
Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Andreas Jung wrote: Any objections to move BTreeFolder2 into the Zope core for Zope 2.8? BTF is widely used in the Zope, CMF Plone world and it would not hurt to ship it with Zope. Shane, OK with you? By all means, go ahead! Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope] Zope Starting Error
Can someone please help me resolve the following error: Error: The object named by DBTab.ClassFactories.autoClassFactory could not be imported (line 903 in file:///home/jgoldberg/my_zope/etc/zope.conf) For help, use /opt/Zope-2.7/lib/python/Zope/Startup/zopectl.py -h Thank you, Jonathan Goldberg ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] [ANN] Zope 2.8.0 beta 1 released
Dear Zope Community, on behalf of Zope Corporation and all Zope 2 developers and contributors I am pleased to announce the release of Zope 2.8.0 b1. Zope 2.8.0 b1 can be downloaded from http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.8.0b1 The release notes can be found at http://www.zope.org/Products/Zope/2.8.0b1/CHANGES.txt For information on using Python 2.4 with Zope 2.8: see doc/INSTALL.txt Every developer is strongly encouraged to test Zope 2.8 beta 1 *now* and not to wait until the final Zope 2.8 release...that's why we have beta releases :-) The quality and stability of the final release depends on *your* testing *now*. This release is a major step towards Zope 2.8.0 final (scheduled for the 3rd week of May 2005) and now includes for the first time the Five framework to make some Zope 3 technologies available within Zope 2. So you will be able to use Z3 technologies like interfaces, adapters, schemas and views within your Zope 2 installation and have hopefully the best from the Zope 2 and the Zope 3 world. Andreas Jung Zope 2 Release Manager pgprgXOZv7cd2.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] CMF 1.5.1 Released
Zope Corporation is pleased to announce the release of version 1.5.1 of the Zope Content Management Framework (CMF). This release marks the latest stable release in the CMF 1.5 series and should be suitable for production use. What is the CMF? The Zope Content Management Framework provides a set of services and content objects useful for building highly dynamic, content-oriented portal sites. As packaged, the CMF generates a site much like the Zope.org site. The CMF is intended to be easily customizable, in terms of both the types of content used and the policies and services it provides. Where do I get it? Download it from http://zope.org/Products/CMF/CMF-1.5.1 Points of interest include: - Windows ZIP file, http://zope.org/Products/CMF/CMF-1.5.1/CMF-1.5.1.zip - Unix tar/gzip archive, http://zope.org/Products/CMF/CMF-1.5.1/CMF-1.5.1.tar.gz - Release notes, http://zope.org/Products/CMF/CMF-1.5.1/README.txt - Change history, http://zope.org/Products/CMF/CMF-1.5.1/CHANGES.txt - Installation instructions, http://zope.org/Products/CMF/CMF-1.5.1/INSTALL.txt Where do I go to learn more? The CMF mailing list:mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] has many participants who are active in supporting the CMF. ...to report bugs? The CMF Collector:http://zope.org/Collectors/CMF is ths place to report bugs (please search for existing reports of your issue first!) --- Jens Vagelpohl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zetwork GmbHhttp://www.zetwork.com/ ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
I have a Zope instance that uses utf-8 for everything. Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support utf-8, I would like to switch over to ISO-8859-2 (for everything). The problem is that this instance is a fat site that is on-line for several months, so I have to convert the strings stored inside the lot of already existing objects of the ZODB. Any idea how to do it, like an already existing tool for it? -- Best regards, Daniel Dekany ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 14:18 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Zope instance that uses utf-8 for everything. Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support utf-8, Please explain in which sense Zope would not support utf-8. For your information: Plone has UTF8 as default charset. In general Zope does not care much about encoded strings except for some conversions. Dealing with utf8 might be tricky in some cases but saying Zope does not support Utf-8 is wrong. -aj pgpGiUxj5L8zA.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
Sunday, April 24, 2005, 2:36:24 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: --On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 14:18 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Zope instance that uses utf-8 for everything. Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support utf-8, Please explain in which sense Zope would not support utf-8. For your information: It can't sort strings alphabetically *anywhere* (concretely: the accented letters will go to the end of the list -- I guess because 0x80 is mathematically greater than the code of the US-ASCII characters). Kind of basic fundamental thing for a portal, or for text handling in general. I have asked here earlier how to solve it, but there was no answer that could be applied in practice (i.e. the answer was that I should write custom fixes for each individual products, and/or write a patch for Zope, and then maybe for Python... If so, this is equal of saying that UTF-8 is not supported yet). Plone has UTF8 as default charset. Aha. Then this is why this Plone site I should fix/maintain used UTF-8 everywhere. I believed it was a bad decision of my predecessor. (But then this problem is even more mysterious for me: *if* it doesn't working (yet), then why did the Plone authors chose that?) In general Zope does not care much about encoded strings except for some conversions. Dealing with utf8 might be tricky in some cases but saying Zope does not support Utf-8 is wrong. Believe me, I really hope I'm wrong. So how could I achieve that strings are sorted correctly? If it works for someone, how? (I have locale hu_HU.UTF-8 in zope.conf, I have even printed locale.getlocale(locale.LC_COLLATE) from products and external methods, and it was hu_HU.UTF-8. Note that at least on Python level sorting with hu_HU.ISO-8859-2 works... so I hope it would work with Plone as well.) -aj -- Best regards, Daniel Dekany ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 16:03 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday, April 24, 2005, 2:36:24 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: --On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 14:18 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Zope instance that uses utf-8 for everything. Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support utf-8, Please explain in which sense Zope would not support utf-8. For your information: It can't sort strings alphabetically *anywhere* (concretely: the accented letters will go to the end of the list -- I guess because 0x80 is mathematically greater than the code of the US-ASCII characters). This is neither a problem of Zope nor of Python! A Python string has no notion an an encoding. The sort method can not smell the encoding. Instead use Python unicode strings and depend on the sorting order defined by the Unicode standard. This is an application-level problem but not a server-side problem. Plone has UTF8 as default charset. Believe me, I really hope I'm wrong. So how could I achieve that strings are sorted correctly? If it works for someone, how? (I have locale hu_HU.UTF-8 in zope.conf, I have even printed locale.getlocale(locale.LC_COLLATE) from products and external methods, and it was hu_HU.UTF-8. Note that at least on Python level sorting with hu_HU.ISO-8859-2 works... so I hope it would work with Plone as well.) see above..Also the standard sort() methods of Python does not care about your locales (why should it)strings are streams of bytes...nothing else... sort() accepts a user-defined comparison method of implement user-specific sorting. And there are also methods in Python locale module to perform locale-dependent comparison. Once again: you must solve your problem on the application layer...Zope does not help you at this point because it can't. -aj pgp079YlETq1G.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
Sunday, April 24, 2005, 4:22:10 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: --On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 16:03 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday, April 24, 2005, 2:36:24 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: --On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 14:18 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a Zope instance that uses utf-8 for everything. Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support utf-8, Please explain in which sense Zope would not support utf-8. For your information: It can't sort strings alphabetically *anywhere* (concretely: the accented letters will go to the end of the list -- I guess because 0x80 is mathematically greater than the code of the US-ASCII characters). This is neither a problem of Zope nor of Python! A Python string has no notion an an encoding. The sort method can not smell the encoding. First of all, in this thread I don't care whose mistake it is. My concern is if I can use Zope with UTF-8 (in fact, Plone) in reality or not. Assume that I'm using a few non-US-ASCII characters, and I want sometimes show things alphabetically sorted... Then, of course if something wants to collate string for human reading, it will use locale.strcoll, which do consider charset and locale. That locale.strcoll is wrong with UTF-8, that's certainly the mistake of Python, right? Instead use Python unicode strings and depend on the sorting order defined by the Unicode standard. I take that advice, but unfortunately it's not about my Python code, but about other people's Python code. This is an application-level problem but not a server-side problem. Zope itself gives a method for sorting strings: DocumentTemplate.sequence.sort. Many of the products relies on that for sorting. And that sorts UTF-8 incorrectly (I guess because locale.strcoll does it incorrectly). Also, ZCatalog sorts incorrectly (surely for the same reason), which is also the part of the standard Zope distribution. Plone has UTF8 as default charset. Believe me, I really hope I'm wrong. So how could I achieve that strings are sorted correctly? If it works for someone, how? (I have locale hu_HU.UTF-8 in zope.conf, I have even printed locale.getlocale(locale.LC_COLLATE) from products and external methods, and it was hu_HU.UTF-8. Note that at least on Python level sorting with hu_HU.ISO-8859-2 works... so I hope it would work with Plone as well.) see above..Also the standard sort() methods of Python does not care about your locales (why should it)strings are streams of bytes...nothing else... I know, and I have referred to locale.strcoll, which does care about encoding and locale. Seems many products use that (indirectly) when they want to sort something. sort() accepts a user-defined comparison method of implement user-specific sorting. Yes, but this doesn't help, unless I write an UTF-8 comparison method, and then find all sort() and locale.sort() calls in Zope, Plone, and in other products, and patch them all... And there are also methods in Python locale module to perform locale-dependent comparison. Which I can't get working with UTF-8, it puts non-US-ASCII letters at the end of the list. Somebody did? How? I'm all ears. I guess the Plone site should suddenly sort correctly then, at least on the places where the programmer of the Zope product was wise enough not to use raw sort(). Once again: you must solve your problem on the application layer... (Anyway string collation is not an application level problem in principle. It is the same for a book store application and for a first person shooter, there is nothing application specific in it. If Python is not mature enough to take this task, that's a different question.) Zope does not help you at this point because it can't. So however I formulate it, the end is that you *practically* can't use UTF-8 with Zope, unless you are using a language that doesn't use non-US-ASCII characters, in which case you don't utilize UTF-8. Hence, I said it is not supported... It doesn't mean that it is the mistake of Zope, it just means that you can't use it. So, back to the topic... Since UTF-8 is not working (it seems), how could I convert that already filled instance to use ISO-8859-2 instead of UTF-8? Some tool helps me in it done relatively easy? -aj -- Best regards, Daniel Dekany ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: How to convert Zope instance charset?
Daniel Dekany wrote: Sunday, April 24, 2005, 4:22:10 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Zope itself gives a method for sorting strings: DocumentTemplate.sequence.sort. Many of the products relies on that for sorting. And that sorts UTF-8 incorrectly Then it will probably be easiest to just patch it up to sort correctly. Or file a bug in the collector. -- hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark http://www.mxm.dk/ IT's Mad Science ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 17:45 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sunday, April 24, 2005, 4:22:10 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: First of all, in this thread I don't care whose mistake it is. My concern is if I can use Zope with UTF-8 (in fact, Plone) in reality or not. Assume that I'm using a few non-US-ASCII characters, and I want sometimes show things alphabetically sorted... You're not getting the point. As long as you handle with Python string and not with unicode strings then there is no way in Zope deal correctly with different kind of encodings...As I said...it is an application side problem. Zope and Python provide you the tools to deal with UTF8 but you need to solve such problems on in your application. That's my last comment on this issue :-) -aj pgpKQwvMkvMQx.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] Re: How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 18:01 Uhr +0200 Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Daniel Dekany wrote: Sunday, April 24, 2005, 4:22:10 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Zope itself gives a method for sorting strings: DocumentTemplate.sequence.sort. Many of the products relies on that for sorting. And that sorts UTF-8 incorrectly Then it will probably be easiest to just patch it up to sort correctly. Or file a bug in the collector. A candidate for a reject. I pointed out that the sort method can not smell your encoding. If you deal with encodings and deal with it in the right way but don't expect that the underlying framework can smell or guess what kind of encoding your application uses. Otherwise: use Python unicode strings *only* and *overall*. -aj pgpJUuA2BO8rq.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Re: How to convert Zope instance charset?
Andreas Jung wrote: Daniel Dekany wrote: Sunday, April 24, 2005, 4:22:10 PM, Andreas Jung wrote: Zope itself gives a method for sorting strings: DocumentTemplate.sequence.sort. Many of the products relies on that for sorting. And that sorts UTF-8 incorrectly Then it will probably be easiest to just patch it up to sort correctly. Or file a bug in the collector. A candidate for a reject. I pointed out that the sort method can not smell your encoding. If you deal with encodings and deal with it in the right way but don't expect that the underlying framework can smell or guess what kind of encoding your application uses. Otherwise: use Python unicode strings *only* and *overall*. Yes. I was thinking in the line of a monkeypatch of the sort method, that could be used in eg. Plone. It should be very possible for it to look up the charset under properties, and decode strings from that before sorting. -- hilsen/regards Max M, Denmark http://www.mxm.dk/ IT's Mad Science ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
Sunday, April 24, 2005, 6:05:42 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 17:45 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sunday, April 24, 2005, 4:22:10 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
First of all, in this thread I don't care whose mistake it is. My
concern is if I can use Zope with UTF-8 (in fact, Plone) in reality or
not. Assume that I'm using a few non-US-ASCII characters, and I want
sometimes show things alphabetically sorted...
You're not getting the point. As long as you handle with Python string
and not with unicode strings then there is no way in Zope deal correctly
with different kind of encodings...As I said...it is an application side
problem. Zope and Python provide you the tools to deal with UTF8 but
you need to solve such problems on in your application. That's my last
comment on this issue :-)
Maybe *you* don't get the point. Python has a virtual machine level
setting that specifies the locale and encoding (the charset). You can
set it for example like: locale.setlocale('hu_HU', 'ISO-8859-2'). And
although there is no charset information attached to strings,
locale.strcoll and such will assume that the string is in the encoding
specified globally like above, right? All the strings (which is not an
unicode string) is assumed to use that encoding. It seems to me that it
works like that until I specify 'UTF-8' in the locale, in which case it
goes mad.
And, to Max M., regarding patching sequence.sort:
a) There is no guarantee that everything uses for sequence.sort.
Some code may calls locale.strcoll directly and such, which can
result in all sort of inconsistency. The fix could be done at
the root of the problem, which is I belive strcoll.
b) If the problem is in Zope (that I doubt) then it should be patched in
Zope itself, not by everybody individually. That is, for Andreas
Jung, if the locale.getlocale(locale.LC_COLLATE) indicates that the
default charset is UTF-8, then it should be sorted like that. But
again, I think it should be actually fixed in Python level (in
locale.strcoll), and not on the Zope level.
Anyway, I have already accepted earlier that while Zope will certainly
work with ISO-8859-2 (that locale.strcoll handles correctly), it will
not work with UTF-8. Hence, Zope doesn't work well with UTF-8, while it
works with older charsets (it does without any extra effort, right?).
So I just asked how to switch over ISO-8859-2, and then some start to
tell that it works with UTF-8, and that it should be solved on
application level(!!!)...
-aj
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Re: [Zope] Re: How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 18:26 Uhr +0200 Max M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. I was thinking in the line of a monkeypatch of the sort method, that could be used in eg. Plone. It should be very possible for it to look up the charset under properties, and decode strings from that before sorting. That's implicit ugly magic. If you have to deal with unicode then do it in the proper way - use unicode strings and don't fiddle around with utf8 encoded strings everywhere where you could and should using unicode strings. Believe me, it will improve your application and your life :-) -aj pgpvL83fp28dm.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 18:34 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany
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Maybe *you* don't get the point. Python has a virtual machine level
setting that specifies the locale and encoding (the charset). You can
set it for example like: locale.setlocale('hu_HU', 'ISO-8859-2'). And
although there is no charset information attached to strings,
locale.strcoll and such will assume that the string is in the encoding
specified globally like above, right? All the strings (which is not an
unicode string) is assumed to use that encoding. It seems to me that it
works like that until I specify 'UTF-8' in the locale, in which case it
goes mad.
I am very much aware of the issue (btw. it was me who integrated
sequence.sort()). And if you look carefully at the API of sequence.sort()
then you will see that there is already built-in support locale-aware
comparisons.
-aj
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Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
Sunday, April 24, 2005, 7:22:42 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 18:34 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe *you* don't get the point. Python has a virtual machine level
setting that specifies the locale and encoding (the charset). You can
set it for example like: locale.setlocale('hu_HU', 'ISO-8859-2'). And
although there is no charset information attached to strings,
locale.strcoll and such will assume that the string is in the encoding
specified globally like above, right? All the strings (which is not an
unicode string) is assumed to use that encoding. It seems to me that it
works like that until I specify 'UTF-8' in the locale, in which case it
goes mad.
I am very much aware of the issue (btw. it was me who integrated
sequence.sort()).
You are aware of it, so why do you dispute if UTF-8 is supported (read:
can be used in practice)? Just how on the earth should anybody solve
this on the application level? Should everybody use only his own
products (that convert everything to unicode string)? Also everybody
should patch ZCatalog and similar core components which also sorts
non-unicode strings? Simply said, people can't use Zope with UTF-8 in
practice (while I guess they can with ISO-8859-x, right?), with my
original words Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support
utf-8. And I didn't meant to hurt or upbraid Zope fans with it at all,
I just said it as a fact in the middle of a sentence, and then what
happens...
(Why Plone guys use UTF-8 as default, I don't know, maybe they didn't
realized it doesn't work for people who really utilize utf-8. I'm for
too long in the business to be surprised. :) I think I will ask them...)
And if you look carefully at the API of sequence.sort()
then you will see that there is already built-in support locale-aware
comparisons.
Yeah, I tried to use that earlier, but as I said for many times here, it
can't sort utf-8 encoded strings, despite that I have set the global
locale to something.utf8, certainly because Python locale.strcoll
can't. So at the end: You Can Not Use UTF-8 with Zope. Right? S,
then back to the original question: converting and utf-8 instance to
ISO-8859-2 instance, any idea? (Or is it still the standpoint that I
should not??? D-%)
-aj
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[Zope] Re: developer docs
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Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 21:31 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I tried to use that earlier, but as I said for many times here, it can't sort utf-8 encoded strings, despite that I have set the global locale to something.utf8, certainly because Python locale.strcoll can't. If this method does not work as expected then this is likely a bug or a problem of the underlying implementation in the C lib. locale.strcoll is just a *thin* layer on top of the libc of your operating system. Means: Python just passed the data to the libc strcoll() method and returns the result. And again my hint: if you want to deal in a reasonable way with different charsets: use unicode strings. -aj pgpuqLggOTetL.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
[Zope] Sequence sorting module from a Python script
Hi all:
I want to order a sequence using the Sequence sorting module from a Python
script.
I have the following code:
"
seq = [['Bruzon', 'CUB'], ['Anand', 'IND'], ['Kasparov', 'RUS']]
def test(oneElem, twoElem):
if oneElem[0] == twoElem[0]:
return 0
if oneElem[0] > twoElem[0]:
return 1
else:
return -1
sort_on =(('self', test, 'desc'))
return sequence.sort(seq, sort_on)
"
and i get the error:
"
Error Type: SyntaxError
Error Value: sort option must contains no more than 2 fields
"
the Traceback:
"
Traceback (innermost last):
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in publish
Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_object
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__
Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExec
Module Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _exec
Module None, line 22, in orderBy
Line 22
Module DocumentTemplate.sequence.SortEx, line 66, in sort
Module DocumentTemplate.sequence.SortEx, line 161, in make_sortfunctions
SyntaxError: sort option must contains no more than 2 fields
"
what i'm doing wrong?
Thanks in advance.
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[Zope] Sequence sorting module from a Python script
Hi all:
I
want to order a sequence using the Sequence sorting module from a Python
script.
I
have the following code: "seq = [['Bruzon', 'CUB'], ['Anand',
'IND'], ['Kasparov', 'RUS']]def test(oneElem, twoElem):
if oneElem[0] == twoElem[0]:
return 0
elif oneElem[0] twoElem[0]:
return 1
else: return -1
sort_on =(('self', test, 'desc'))return sequence.sort(seq, sort_on)
"
and i get the error:"Error Type: SyntaxErrorError Value: sort
option must contains no more than 2 fields"and Traceback:"
Traceback (innermost last):Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 101, in
publishModule ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapplyModule
ZPublisher.Publish, line 39, in call_objectModule
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 306, in __call__Module
Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 343, in _bindAndExecModule
Products.PythonScripts.PythonScript, line 323, in _execModule None, line
21, in orderBy- - Line 21Module
DocumentTemplate.sequence.SortEx, line 66, in sortModule
DocumentTemplate.sequence.SortEx, line 161, in make_sortfunctions
SyntaxError: sort option must contains no more than 2 fields"
what i'm doing wrong?
any suggestion?
Thanks in advance.
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[Zope] zope-2.8, i18n and global locales catalog
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[Zope] Re: Zope Starting Error
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Re: [Zope] Sequence sorting module from a Python script
Leticia Larrosa wrote:
Hi
all:
I
want to order a sequence using the Sequence sorting module from a
Python script.
I
have the following code:
"
seq = [['Bruzon', 'CUB'], ['Anand', 'IND'], ['Kasparov', 'RUS']]
def test(oneElem, twoElem):
if oneElem[0] == twoElem[0]:
return 0
elif oneElem[0] twoElem[0]:
return 1
else:
return -1
sort_on =(('self', test, 'desc'))
return sequence.sort(seq, sort_on)
"
and i get the error:
"
Error Type: SyntaxError
Error
Value:
sort option must contains no more than 2 fields
Leticia,
I tested this using a python script in Zope - and it seems to work.
Nice to see someone doing something with Chess and Zope!
def test(x,y):
if x[0] == y[0]:
return 0
elif x[0] y[0]:
return 1
else:
return -1
request = container.REQUEST
seq = [['Bruzon', 'CUB'], ['Anand', 'IND'], ['Kasparov', 'RUS']]
seq.sort(test)
print seq
David
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Re: [Zope] Sequence sorting module from a Python script
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 17:36 Uhr -0400 Leticia Larrosa
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sort_on =(('self', test, 'desc'))
As documented the 'sort_on_ parameter must be a *sequence* of sorting
definitions and a *single* sorting
definition. This should work:
sort_on =(('self', test, 'desc'),)
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Re: [Zope] How to convert Zope instance charset?
One last note from myside. I have experiences with unicode since over 7
years while
working with multilingual documents in the e-publishing business. It is
good practice
to perform *any* unicode related work *only* on unicode datatypes (Python
unicode strings!!!)
and *not* some byte-encoded unicode strings as utf8 or whatever. These
encodings
should only be used on the output level when presenting unicode data to the
user - either
through-the-web, as export format etc. This is a strong advice you should
follow.
-aj
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 21:31 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sunday, April 24, 2005, 7:22:42 PM, Andreas Jung wrote:
--On Sonntag, 24. April 2005 18:34 Uhr +0200 Daniel Dekany
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe *you* don't get the point. Python has a virtual machine level
setting that specifies the locale and encoding (the charset). You can
set it for example like: locale.setlocale('hu_HU', 'ISO-8859-2'). And
although there is no charset information attached to strings,
locale.strcoll and such will assume that the string is in the encoding
specified globally like above, right? All the strings (which is not an
unicode string) is assumed to use that encoding. It seems to me that it
works like that until I specify 'UTF-8' in the locale, in which case it
goes mad.
I am very much aware of the issue (btw. it was me who integrated
sequence.sort()).
You are aware of it, so why do you dispute if UTF-8 is supported (read:
can be used in practice)? Just how on the earth should anybody solve
this on the application level? Should everybody use only his own
products (that convert everything to unicode string)? Also everybody
should patch ZCatalog and similar core components which also sorts
non-unicode strings? Simply said, people can't use Zope with UTF-8 in
practice (while I guess they can with ISO-8859-x, right?), with my
original words Since Python/Zope/etc practically doesn't support
utf-8. And I didn't meant to hurt or upbraid Zope fans with it at all,
I just said it as a fact in the middle of a sentence, and then what
happens...
(Why Plone guys use UTF-8 as default, I don't know, maybe they didn't
realized it doesn't work for people who really utilize utf-8. I'm for
too long in the business to be surprised. :) I think I will ask them...)
And if you look carefully at the API of sequence.sort()
then you will see that there is already built-in support locale-aware
comparisons.
Yeah, I tried to use that earlier, but as I said for many times here, it
can't sort utf-8 encoded strings, despite that I have set the global
locale to something.utf8, certainly because Python locale.strcoll
can't. So at the end: You Can Not Use UTF-8 with Zope. Right? S,
then back to the original question: converting and utf-8 instance to
ISO-8859-2 instance, any idea? (Or is it still the standpoint that I
should not??? D-%)
-aj
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Best regards,
Daniel Dekany
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Re: [Zope] The Zope Book
Lennart Regebro wrote at 2005-4-8 10:59 +0200: ... On Apr 8, 2005 8:48 AM, Chris Withers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Which The Zope Book are you referring to? The 2.6 one on Zope.org? The 2.7 one on Plope.com? The 3.whatever one somewhere-I-don't-know? I would expect it to be featured, that is mentioned as a recommended practice, in a Zope2.9 book, should one appear. I also thonk that with 2.8 a 2.8 book should be released, which main feature could be to move the ZClass part to an appendix. Indead, something along this line... -- Dieter ___ Zope maillist - Zope@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
