Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-06-26 Thread Paul Carduner
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 6:11 PM, Tim Cook <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:14 -0700, Paul Carduner wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > Hi there,
>> >
>> > I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5.
>> >
>> > * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your
>> > experiences?
>>
>> We are using Python 2.5 fully for the last several months now and have
>> encountered zero problems.
>>
>
> Paul,
>
> Are you doing this on Linux?  I tried 3.4 on Python 2.5 a few weeks ago
> and I don't recall the problems now but there were several.
>

Yep.  I can confirm that things work on Ubuntu Gutsy, hardy, as well
as CentOS (the latest release).  I should mention that we are not
using the mega zope checkout but rather just a bunch of eggs: most of
the core stuff plus a bunch of z3c.* packages.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-06-26 Thread Tim Cook

On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 13:14 -0700, Paul Carduner wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5.
> >
> > * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your
> > experiences?
> 
> We are using Python 2.5 fully for the last several months now and have
> encountered zero problems.
> 

Paul,

Are you doing this on Linux?  I tried 3.4 on Python 2.5 a few weeks ago
and I don't recall the problems now but there were several.

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.security 3.5.1 ZCML changes

2008-06-26 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Fred Drake wrote:
> > The gopherlib module was there before, I just shut up the deprecation
> > warning.
>
> Using Python 2.4.4, I get a deprecation warning for *regex*.  So you
> shut up the deprecation warning for Python 2.5 by introducing one for
> Python 2.4.

Okay, I did not parse that from your first E-mail. I will fix it and test it 
in both, Py 2.4 and 2.5. No problemo.

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Re: [Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-06-26 Thread Paul Carduner
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Martijn Faassen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5.
>
> * Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your
> experiences?

We are using Python 2.5 fully for the last several months now and have
encountered zero problems.

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[Zope-dev] Zope 3 on Python 2.5, Zope 3 releases

2008-06-26 Thread Martijn Faassen

Hi there,

I'm curious about the plans of Zope 3 on Python 2.5.

* Are people using Zope 3 with Python 2.5 already? What are your 
experiences?


* Are there plans for a release after Zope 3.4? I'm just assuming that 
Zope 3.4.0c1 is actually the only release that Zope 3.4 is going to see. 
Any plans or interest in a Zope 3.5?


* Is someone exercising the "trunk" version of KGS, running the tests to 
see whether everything works together? Is someone actually updating the 
versions? Could we somehow broaden the community for this?


I'd be nice if we could move Grok to Python 2.5, but it'd be nice to if 
that were somehow coordinated with Zope 3.


What would the policy be for checkins of Zope-related packages? Could we 
use new Python 2.5 features, for instance?


Regards,

Martijn

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.security 3.5.1 ZCML changes

2008-06-26 Thread Fred Drake
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 12:33 PM, Stephan Richter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I did as you were aware of. :-)

I wasn't, because I didn't look.  Note also that I wasn't asking who;
I don't think that matters.

> The gopherlib module was there before, I just shut up the deprecation warning.

Using Python 2.4.4, I get a deprecation warning for *regex*.  So you
shut up the deprecation warning for Python 2.5 by introducing one for
Python 2.4.

> A deprecation warning was not issued until Python 2.5 though. How would I
> know?

About the gopherlib deprecation?  That wasn't deprecated until
recently; it was regex that was declared obsolete in 1.5, and 2.4
generates a deprecation warning.  I'll take it that you didn't test
your change with Python 2.4, which is still the supported Python for
Zope 3.4 (whatever that means).

> I am not sure why you would want a 3.5.2 release, since nothing breaks. I am
> all in favor removing this declaration for 3.6.0.

Because of the deprecation warning from the regex module.  Deprecation
warnings aren't breakages, but when running tests, they can make it a
lot harder to see real errors as the output is generated by the test
runner.  This is especially bad if you have a lot of separate
functional testing layers.


 -Fred

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Re: [Zope-dev] zope.app.security 3.5.1 ZCML changes

2008-06-26 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Fred Drake wrote:
> Someone changed the ZCML that registers the "gopherlib" module (why???) to
> this:

I did as you were aware of. :-)

The gopherlib module was there before, I just shut up the deprecation warning.

>   
>              zcml:condition="installed regex">
>     
>   
>
> In trying to avoid a Python 2.5 deprecation warning (not removal),
> this code imports and causes a deprecation warning for a module that
> was declared obsolete in Python 1.5 (yes, that's a "1"!).
>
> Isn't this just a little bit insane?

A deprecation warning was not issued until Python 2.5 though. How would I 
know?

> I think the condition should be removed for zope.app.security 3.5.2,
> and the registration of gopherlib should be removed for 3.6.0.

I am not sure why you would want a 3.5.2 release, since nothing breaks. I am 
all in favor removing this declaration for 3.6.0.

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[Zope-dev] zope.app.security 3.5.1 ZCML changes

2008-06-26 Thread Fred Drake
Someone changed the ZCML that registers the "gopherlib" module (why???) to this:

  
  

  

In trying to avoid a Python 2.5 deprecation warning (not removal),
this code imports and causes a deprecation warning for a module that
was declared obsolete in Python 1.5 (yes, that's a "1"!).

Isn't this just a little bit insane?

I think the condition should be removed for zope.app.security 3.5.2,
and the registration of gopherlib should be removed for 3.6.0.


 -Fred

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Re: [Zope-dev] ZPublisher XMLRPC decoding

2008-06-26 Thread Stephan Richter
On Thursday 26 June 2008, Christian Theune wrote:
> Comments?

+1

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[Zope-dev] Re: [Checkins] SVN: grok/trunk/grokdocs/src/grokdocs/ ignore .pyc files in grokdocs

2008-06-26 Thread Benji York
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:46 PM, Kevin Teague <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Log message for revision 87782:
>  ignore .pyc files in grokdocs

It is recommended that you add *.pyc to "global-ignores" in the
[miscellany] section of .subversion/config instead.

See also http://wiki.zope.org/zope3/SubversionConfigurationForLineEndings
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[Zope-dev] Zope Tests: 5 OK

2008-06-26 Thread Zope Tests Summarizer
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There were 5 messages: 5 from Zope Tests.


Tests passed OK
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Subject: OK : Zope-2.8 Python-2.3.6 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Wed Jun 25 21:04:18 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-June/009760.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.9 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Wed Jun 25 21:05:48 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-June/009761.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.10 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Wed Jun 25 21:07:19 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-June/009762.html

Subject: OK : Zope-2.11 Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Wed Jun 25 21:08:49 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-June/009763.html

Subject: OK : Zope-trunk Python-2.4.4 : Linux
From: Zope Tests
Date: Wed Jun 25 21:10:21 EDT 2008
URL: http://mail.zope.org/pipermail/zope-tests/2008-June/009764.html

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[Zope-dev] ZPublisher XMLRPC decoding

2008-06-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

the publisher normally converts the arguments given with a request into a
type that is easy to use. For example unicode conversion happens
automatically.

XMLRPC defines specific helper types to represent objects for the XMLRPC wire
protocol. Automatic conversion happens for all XMLRPC objects except DateTime.

Python 2.5 adds a flag to various functions that allows signalling whether
DateTime objects should conform to datetime.datetime objects which I think is
a good idea in general.

zope.publisher could be changed to do this even for Python 2.4 I guess.

Comments?

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[Zope-dev] Release zope.app.container 3.5.4?

2008-06-26 Thread Christian Theune
Hi,

I saw that ccomb fixed bug #227617 a few days ago (thanks!) and that he also
backported it to the 3.5 branch.

zope.app.container has a couple of bugfixes aggregated already and I'd like to
do a release. Any objections?

Christian

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