Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Am Sonntag, den 12.08.2007, 21:45 +0200 schrieb Tino Wildenhain: > Philipp von Weitershausen schrieb: > > Martijn Pieters wrote: > >> On 8/12/07, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to > >>> Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on > >>> LP we > >>> should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections? > >> > >> +1 > >> > >> I do wish LP gave a bit more context in their emails though; today > >> Christian Thuene cleaned up the Z3 bugtracker and I couldn't tell from > >> any of the many bug emails if any related to bugs I cared about. I'll > >> have to file a LP feature-request, I guess. > > > > I agree, I too wish that Launchpad emails would include the full bug > > history (at least as an option). Whenever I've talked to the Launchpad > > folks they were open for ideas, so I think it's worth a try to file a > > feature request. > > > Maybe I missed the thread but why was LP choosen over for example > Trac? The latter would at least work very well with the SVN repository > and provide meaningfull emails... We had a discussion about bug management systems on zope3-dev last year and Canonical (repr. by Steve) made the offer to care for migration, hosting and real support when we choose LP. Some people were offered beta accounts around that time to be able to play with the then upcoming system. After that we decided to go for it, as LP is an attractive platform for OS projects and they also have some upcoming offers that we are considering for the future as well (maybe code hosting, maybe mailing lists). So far my experience with LP for bugtracking is good and I like the system.The general use of LP bugtracking is pretty good and the integration with release planning is very nice. There are some rough edges, but those are getting better. I hope I recap'ed this correctly. Christian ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Andreas Jung wrote: > --On 12. August 2007 19:53:57 +0200 Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to >> Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on >> LP we >> should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections? +1, having a unified bug tracker system including a common user database for both Zope 2 + 3 helps. > One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only > the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already > empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only > a few items. +1 for PAS and APE as well. Every content not on the current zope.org site is good content ;) For the CMF collector see cmf-devel. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Aug 2007, at 11:26, Hanno Schlichting wrote: Jens Vagelpohl wrote: On 13 Aug 2007, at 11:11, Hanno Schlichting wrote: One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only a few items. +1 for PAS and APE as well. Every content not on the current zope.org site is good content ;) APE is dead. I doubt there's any use in moving that collector anywhere. I'd say if it costs more than half an hour to move the APE collector than leave it (and delete it whenever we'll get the big zope.org overhaul). If it is less than half an hour than move it and preserve the information in there for historical reasons. I would preserve that information on zope.org and just leave it where it is. Moving it will only create the misleading impression that it's still supported somehow. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGwCRGRAx5nvEhZLIRAk54AJ0SEhnFXuMwEAskItfd+MptGxs7uACdFI4I G5x0kiGU+PsD8jCJDTiIKTE= =GMSv -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Jens Vagelpohl wrote: > On 13 Aug 2007, at 11:11, Hanno Schlichting wrote: >>> One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only >>> the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already >>> empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only >>> a few items. > >> +1 for PAS and APE as well. Every content not on the current zope.org >> site is good content ;) > > APE is dead. I doubt there's any use in moving that collector anywhere. I'd say if it costs more than half an hour to move the APE collector than leave it (and delete it whenever we'll get the big zope.org overhaul). If it is less than half an hour than move it and preserve the information in there for historical reasons. Hanno ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 13 Aug 2007, at 11:11, Hanno Schlichting wrote: One could also move the CMF bugtracker to LP at the same time. Then only the APE and the PAS trackers would remain. The PAS tracker is already empty and the APE tracker is also pretty much obsolete and contains only a few items. +1 for PAS and APE as well. Every content not on the current zope.org site is good content ;) APE is dead. I doubt there's any use in moving that collector anywhere. jens -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (Darwin) iD8DBQFGwCJCRAx5nvEhZLIRAvWeAJ417Ot5ANz3mMADBnyx7Ud1LwopfwCeMGsW d3HL0nXVquNXgknqFvBH1hg= =hU9P -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Previously Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: > On 12 Aug 2007, at 21:45 , Tino Wildenhain wrote: > >Maybe I missed the thread but why was LP choosen over for example > >Trac? > > Because we don't have to maintain it or host it. I don't think we > have the amount of volunteers (feel free to convince me otherwise :)). > > >The latter would at least work very well with the SVN repository > > I'm not sure how far along Trac's multi-project/single-repository > integration is. As far as I'm aware, however, Trac would poorly fit > our repository structure. > > That's not to say I don't like Trac. I've used it and I like it. > Plone seems to be able to use it quite well, but they also have > people worrying about it and maintaining it constantly. We haven't needed to touch trac in months actually. Wichert. -- Wichert Akkerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>It is simple to make things. http://www.wiggy.net/ It is hard to make things simple. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
On 12 Aug 2007, at 21:45 , Tino Wildenhain wrote: Maybe I missed the thread but why was LP choosen over for example Trac? Because we don't have to maintain it or host it. I don't think we have the amount of volunteers (feel free to convince me otherwise :)). The latter would at least work very well with the SVN repository I'm not sure how far along Trac's multi-project/single-repository integration is. As far as I'm aware, however, Trac would poorly fit our repository structure. That's not to say I don't like Trac. I've used it and I like it. Plone seems to be able to use it quite well, but they also have people worrying about it and maintaining it constantly. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Philipp von Weitershausen schrieb: Martijn Pieters wrote: On 8/12/07, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections? +1 I do wish LP gave a bit more context in their emails though; today Christian Thuene cleaned up the Z3 bugtracker and I couldn't tell from any of the many bug emails if any related to bugs I cared about. I'll have to file a LP feature-request, I guess. I agree, I too wish that Launchpad emails would include the full bug history (at least as an option). Whenever I've talked to the Launchpad folks they were open for ideas, so I think it's worth a try to file a feature request. Maybe I missed the thread but why was LP choosen over for example Trac? The latter would at least work very well with the SVN repository and provide meaningfull emails... Regards Tino ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Martijn Pieters wrote: On 8/12/07, Andreas Jung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections? +1 I do wish LP gave a bit more context in their emails though; today Christian Thuene cleaned up the Z3 bugtracker and I couldn't tell from any of the many bug emails if any related to bugs I cared about. I'll have to file a LP feature-request, I guess. I agree, I too wish that Launchpad emails would include the full bug history (at least as an option). Whenever I've talked to the Launchpad folks they were open for ideas, so I think it's worth a try to file a feature request. -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: Moving the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad
Andreas Jung wrote: to make it short: I propose to move the Zope 2 bugtracker to Launchpad. Since the Zope 3 bugtracker works already with success on LP we should follow with the Zope 2 bugtracker. Objections? +1 Often Zope3-related bugs are filed in the Zope 2 tracker by mistake. Launchpad will allow us to push bugs around between projects much more easily. Many projects related to Zope (zc.buildout, grok, ...) are on launchpad.net as well. That way, people can reuse their launchpad.net logins easily. Last but not least, it has a neat email interface. -- http://worldcookery.com -- Professional Zope documentation and training ___ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
