[Zope-dev] LM 0.8.6 w/CurrentCVS failure
"Phillip J. Eby" wrote: [...] LM 0.8.6 also works with Zope 2.2 as far as being able to be added, although I'm not sure it interoperates properly with the new security API. It will still be backward compatible with Zope 2.1.6 either way, though. Hmmm ... just tried it on a fresh (Thursday) CVS dump, and get a no-go: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: _owner Traceback (innermost last): File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 224, in publish_module File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 189, in publish File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/Zope/__init__.py, line 221, in zpublisher_exception_hook File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 175, in publish File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/ZPublisher/mapply.py, line 160, in mapply (Object: manage_addLoginManager) File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/ZPublisher/Publish.py, line 112, in call_object (Object: manage_addLoginManager) File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Gaming/lib/python/Products/LoginManager/LoginManager.py, line 230, in manage_addLoginManager File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/OFS/ObjectManager.py, line 249, in _setObject (Object: ElementWithAttributes) File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/AccessControl/Owned.py, line 267, in manage_fixupOwnershipAfterAdd (Object: SheetProviderContainer) File /home/web/ActiveBoise/Games/lib/python/AccessControl/Owned.py, line 174, in changeOwnership (Object: SheetProviderContainer) KeyError: (see above) -- ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code
Hello, it's the first time I write here and I'm a newbie at Zope, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question... Case is I retrieve from my movie database the value of the movie from 1 to 5 stars. I would like to repeat that n times the code img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 so the number of stars would appear: 1 - * 2 - ** 3 - *** 4 - 5 - * Is there any way to do so in Zope? Does the dtml-in tag anything to do with it? Thank you! = Saludos!! _-/Txapulin\-_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] O \ / ---\ / O http://www.geocities.com/txapulin \/ | \/ / |XAP\ || || __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] newbie / dtml-tree and external methods
Hi all, I'm newbie both in python and in zope (in English too!), and
here is a problem I realy can't sort out.
I would to display the tree structure of a repository disk.
Therefore I wrote a recursive class MyFolder, with the following
attributes (code is at the bottom of the message):
class MyFolder:
fname : name of the base folder
subfolders : a list of MyFolder objects, made after the subfolders
of my folder
MyFiles : a list of the files of my folder (actually a list of
object whose only attribute is the name of the file)
I call this class with the following external method:
def ZMyWalk(self,dir): #=None):
""" returns ..."""
# MyRepTest is the default value
#if not dir : dir=MyRepTest
return MyFolder(dir)
And I try to publish it with the following DTML-method:
dtml-with "ZMyWalk('saigon\\d\\divers\\wlk')"
dtml-tree branches_expr=subfolders
dtml-var FolderName
dtml-in MyFiles
dtml-var namebr
/dtml-in
/dtml-tree
/dtml-with
It displays the first level fine. But when I try to expand the tree
by
clicking on the small + sign, it acts randomly (doesn't do anything,
or expand another branch, sometimes it even does the right thing, ..).
Any guess? I'm totally lost :-( . I'm not sure I does this the right
way. The SomeFile class I 've made seem rather artificial.
I run Zope 2.1.6 with Python 1.5.2 under NT4.0 and I got the
TreeTag.py pach.
PS : here are the classes I use.
class MyFolder:
"""fait une recursion dans un repertoire"""
def __init__(self,dir):
self.path=dir
self.FolderName=os.path.basename(dir)
self.subfolders=[]
self.MyFiles=[]
for f in os.listdir(dir):
pathname='%s\\%s' % (dir, f)
if os.path.isdir(pathname):
self.subfolders.append(MyFolder(pathname))
elif os.path.isfile(pathname):
self.MyFiles.append(SomeFile(f))
else:
pass
class SomeFile:
""" ... """
def __init__(self,name):
self.name=name
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Re: [Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code
Alex Mendez wrote: Hello, it's the first time I write here and I'm a newbie at Zope, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question... Case is I retrieve from my movie database the value of the movie from 1 to 5 stars. I would like to repeat that n times the code img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 so the number of stars would appear: 1 - * 2 - ** 3 - *** 4 - 5 - * Is there any way to do so in Zope? Does the dtml-in tag anything to do with it? dtml-in expr="_.range(0, movie_rating)" img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 /dtml-in Replace movie_rating with the variable that represents the movie rating. Shane ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code
Shane Hathaway wrote: Alex Mendez wrote: Hello, it's the first time I write here and I'm a newbie at Zope, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question... Case is I retrieve from my movie database the value of the movie from 1 to 5 stars. I would like to repeat that n times the code img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 so the number of stars would appear: 1 - * 2 - ** 3 - *** 4 - 5 - * Is there any way to do so in Zope? Does the dtml-in tag anything to do with it? dtml-in expr="_.range(0, movie_rating)" img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 /dtml-in Replace movie_rating with the variable that represents the movie rating. What about dtml-var "'*' * movie_rating" ? -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code
Steve Alexander wrote: Shane Hathaway wrote: dtml-in expr="_.range(0, movie_rating)" img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 /dtml-in Replace movie_rating with the variable that represents the movie rating. What about dtml-var "'*' * movie_rating" ? Or rather: dtml-var "'img SRC=star.gif height=15 width=15' * movie_rating" -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code
if number_of_stars is 5 then dtml-var " '*' * number_of_stars " will give you * (Multiplication works on strings in python and thus Zope!) Jim Sanford - Original Message - From: "Alex Mendez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Lista Zope" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 5:28 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code Hello, it's the first time I write here and I'm a newbie at Zope, so maybe I'm asking a stupid question... Case is I retrieve from my movie database the value of the movie from 1 to 5 stars. I would like to repeat that n times the code img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15 so the number of stars would appear: 1 - * 2 - ** 3 - *** 4 - 5 - * Is there any way to do so in Zope? Does the dtml-in tag anything to do with it? Thank you! = Saludos!! _-/Txapulin\-_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] O \ / ---\ / O http://www.geocities.com/txapulin \/ | \/ / |XAP\ || || __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos -- now, 100 FREE prints! http://photos.yahoo.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Repeating a piece of HTML code
dtml-in expr="_.range(0, movie_rating)"
img SRC="star.gif" height=15 width=15
/dtml-in
Replace movie_rating with the variable that represents the movie rating.
What about dtml-var "'*' * movie_rating" ?
Fine, except that he wants the img tag repeated the appropriate
number of times. Try putting the tag into the dtml-var statement
and you get something along the lines of (untested):
dtml-var "('img src=%sstart.gif%s height=15 width=15' %
(_.chr(34), _.chr(34))) * movie_rating"
at which point the dtml-in starts to look more appealing.
Of course if you rename star.gif as star_gif you could try:
dtml-var "start_gif.tag() * movie_rating"
which has a certain neatness.
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Re: [Zope-dev] Using string idiom in dtml
Another slightly different idiom is: dtml-var """'img src="foo.gif"' * 12""" It isn't very SGML-like though. Jim Sanford wrote: You've got my vote. Being able to use """ would solve alot of my dtml coding headaches. Jim Sanford - Original Message - From: "Steve Alexander" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 8:06 AM Subject: [Zope-dev] Using """string""" idiom in dtml How easy would it be to allow """python strings""" inside DTML tag attributes? I'm thinking particularly of situations like: dtml-var "'''img src="foo.gif"''' * 12" Currently, you need to mess about with _.chr(34) and string concatenation. The triple-quote idiom looks clearer to my eyes. -- Steve Alexander Software Engineer Cat-Box limited ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML
Hello, Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - From: Glenn Gasmen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Re: ZPatterns complexity?
At 01:40 PM 6/2/00 +0800, Mike wrote: As I'm reading ZPatterns source code more and more I'm finding there are good things just hidden in unclean or bad defined interfaces. Just a suggestion: define interfaces as abstract classes first, then implement them (as AbstractRack, DefaultRack and GenericRack for example). I might back interfaces out later. But while the whole thing is still a prototype it doesn't make a lot of sense to keep two going. Originally, Rack itself was a base class, but the way things are shaping up it will only need subclassing if you want a custom way of mapping from a mountable's "id" to the persistent data stored by the Rack. told 'mess' I meant I spent a lot of time to realize the Rack do not store RackMountables but just manages them. That was the whole point of Rack; this has been mostly addressed on the mailing list, in my talk/slides at the Python conference, and in the ZPatterns wiki. The second thing confusing me is property sheets. They come from problem domain isn't it? I guess attribute providers are sufficient to do all the work. What that sheets needed for? Two things. 1) WebDAV support requires the ability to add arbitrary property sheets containing arbitrary data. 2) Propertysheets (especially when used with XML namespace URL's) give a way of standardizing an interface to common properties, without polluting an object's "main" namespace. This way, one can take an object that wasn't designed for a certain purpose, and attach a propertysheet that serves as an adapter to give it a different interface to its data. Consider the scenario of a scheduling application that creates calendars, or manages resource contention. But you would like to use it with say, a "room" object that was not written as part of the scheduling application. If the scheduling application can just add a scheduling propertysheet to the room object, or you can configure the room objects' datamanager or rack to add a propertysheet that makes it usable with the scheduling application, then you get to benefit from two unrelated frameworks (room management and scheduling). This is a core intent of ZPatterns: making it easy to blend frameworks that cover different behavioral aspects and problem domains. Because real world objects have a funny way of being part of more than one "problem domain" from a software development point of view. :) And one more thing I would to say. I agree the RackMountable should not be acquisition-aware because Attribute providers have full responsibility on its (acquired) attributes. But I do not like default Specialist.__bobo_traverse__ behavior. It is trying to make __of__ on thing which is not an Acquisition.Implicit by definition! Good point. __of__, however, is not limited only to acquisition. In any case, I have moved the __of__ call to the Specialist.getItem() method in 0.4.0. In 0.4.0 DataSkins (the replacement for RackMountables) include an __of__ method in their base class, as this is where they figure out their controlling DataManager (when retrieved from something other than a Rack). Thus, with 0.4.0 it is not necessary to include Acquisition.Implicit in a RackMountable's base classes. ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for us? )
Hi Kevin, What FourThought/DC are currently doing with Zope will allow for fast transformations to memory-resident structured data( ZDOM or whatever ) to exportable XML documents( which are simply strings of characters ). This introduces( to the Zope world ) cutting edge metaphors in web-application design. All data to be served to a client is some form of XML: including HTML ( a better term: structured data ). The internal structure, or representation( or "deep structure" if you are into Chomsky ), is the data/knowledge as the web site managers see it- and most likely the most accurate and flexible when dealing with the particular information-domain( this is what theyre paid for :) ). Each user has custom needs- and wants to see this information the way they( or the applications working on thier behalf ) are accustomed to. So, architectually speaking, we need a way to easily and quickly construct XML documents from some meta-type( our internal structure ). This is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Parsing is a expensive endeavor. It is not practical to parse character streams every time we want to get at our data. So the solution is to represent the data as something more computationally digestible. Again : this is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Does this answer your question? have a good weekend, Josh Zeidner -"zippa-dee-doo-da" , uncle remus Hello, Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - From: Glenn Gasmen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] LM 0.8.6 w/CurrentCVS failure
At 01:51 AM 6/2/00 -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: "Phillip J. Eby" wrote: [...] LM 0.8.6 also works with Zope 2.2 as far as being able to be added, although I'm not sure it interoperates properly with the new security API. It will still be backward compatible with Zope 2.1.6 either way, though. Hmmm ... just tried it on a fresh (Thursday) CVS dump, and get a no-go: Error Type: KeyError Error Value: _owner Thanks for the heads-up, but it worked with the current CVS as of the release of 0.8.6. It's going to be a little while before we can take a whack at it again. 2.1.6 is our primary development platform for both ZPatterns and LoginManager. When we do releases, we check them against the latest CVS of Zope for compatibility, but it's something of a pain as we have to do a certain amount of conditional coding to deal with the presence or absence of 2.2 API's. This is more a problem with LoginManager, although ZPatterns is about to have some conditional code added to work with Jim's new __get/set/delattr__ support (which, if it works, would mean the DynPersist module would not be required for 2.2). ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Adding files to a request feature
Hi, I have created a very simple Search and Replace tab and added it to my Zope´s management interface. I would like to contribute this to the Zope distribution if possible. What process do I need to follow for you guys to check it out. I found the collector and I imagine I could add a request for a feature. But is there a way to include new files with that? Thanks for your help. Carlos de la Guardia ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for us? )
Hi, Josh Thanks for the insight! I also just noticed that there is a whole lot of good information already up there in the Wiki. This does look like great stuff. I see how it complements Zope's current data storage capabilities. It provides good ways to move XML data in and out of the ZODB via XSLT and to store and manipulate XML data efficiently using XML Documents. These are excellent capabilities indeed. Have a great weekend! Kevin - Original Message - From: "Josh Zeidner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for us? ) Hi Kevin, What FourThought/DC are currently doing with Zope will allow for fast transformations to memory-resident structured data( ZDOM or whatever ) to exportable XML documents( which are simply strings of characters ). This introduces( to the Zope world ) cutting edge metaphors in web-application design. All data to be served to a client is some form of XML: including HTML ( a better term: structured data ). The internal structure, or representation( or "deep structure" if you are into Chomsky ), is the data/knowledge as the web site managers see it- and most likely the most accurate and flexible when dealing with the particular ormation-domain( this is what theyre paid for :) ). Each user has custom needs- and wants to see this information the way they( or the applications working on thier behalf ) are accustomed to. So, architectually speaking, we need a way to easily and quickly construct XML documents from some meta-type( our internal structure ). This is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Parsing is a expensive endeavor. It is not practical to parse character streams every time we want to get at our data. So the solution is to represent the data as something more computationally digestible. Again : this is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Does this answer your question? have a good weekend, Josh Zeidner -"zippa-dee-doo-da" , uncle remus Hello, Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - From: Glenn Gasmen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( XSLT revisited )
Hi, It is great stuff! ( similar idea to Apache Cocoon )... now all we need is someone to put in an XSLT( 4XSLT ) processor into the core Zope code- are there any immediate plans for this? note: i realize this has been discussed before :) . -thanks, Josh Z Hi, Josh Thanks for the insight! I also just noticed that there is a whole lot of good information already up there in the Wiki. This does look like great stuff. I see how it complements Zope's current data storage capabilities. It provides good ways to move XML data in and out of the ZODB via XSLT and to store and manipulate XML data efficiently using XML Documents. These are excellent capabilities indeed. Have a great weekend! Kevin - Original Message - From: "Josh Zeidner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, June 02, 2000 10:54 AM Subject: Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML( what does ZDOM do for us? ) Hi Kevin, What FourThought/DC are currently doing with Zope will allow for fast transformations to memory-resident structured data( ZDOM or whatever ) to exportable XML documents( which are simply strings of characters ). This introduces( to the Zope world ) cutting edge metaphors in web-application design. All data to be served to a client is some form of XML: including HTML ( a better term: structured data ). The internal structure, or representation( or "deep structure" if you are into Chomsky ), is the data/knowledge as the web site managers see it- and most likely the most accurate and flexible when dealing with the particular ormation-domain( this is what theyre paid for :) ). Each user has custom needs- and wants to see this information the way they( or the applications working on thier behalf ) are accustomed to. So, architectually speaking, we need a way to easily and quickly construct XML documents from some meta-type( our internal structure ). This is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Parsing is a expensive endeavor. It is not practical to parse character streams every time we want to get at our data. So the solution is to represent the data as something more computationally digestible. Again : this is what ZDOM is accomplishing for us. Does this answer your question? have a good weekend, Josh Zeidner -"zippa-dee-doo-da" , uncle remus Hello, Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? Thanks, Kevin - Original Message - From: Glenn Gasmen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:05 PM Subject: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML http://www.zope.org/Wikis/zope-xml/Unified%20Vision ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] XPath and Aquisition Incompatible?
hi, I was just looking over the Wiki on Zope XML, and came across the current notes on XPath. I tend to think that XPath( which is a relative discripition of a tree traversal ), and Aquisition( which implies quite a bit based on where it gets executed )- may not be exactly compatible. Has there been any discussion on this? -Josh Z Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] XPath and Aquisition Incompatible?
Josh Zeidner wrote: hi, I was just looking over the Wiki on Zope XML, and came across the current notes on XPath. I tend to think that XPath( which is a relative discripition of a tree traversal ), and Aquisition( which implies quite a bit based on where it gets executed )- may not be exactly compatible. Has there been any discussion on this? No, but there should be and I'll put it as a section under Martin's DevelopmentStrategy page -Josh Z Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) -- Chimezie Thomas-Ogbuji Consultant Fourthought Inc. (303) 583 9900 ext 104 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] The future of Zope with XML
Kevin Dangoor wrote: Thanks for getting this document going. It's good to see where XML is going in Zope. [note that the zope-xml list may be a better list to discuss these things; I've cc-ed to there but we might want to move the thread there completely] I do have a question, though. For me, the main value in XML has been in its usefulness as a flexible interchange format. Right now, I can store data as objects (either straight Python or ZClasses) in Zope and transform those into XML if I need to share it with the outside world (eg RSS). Right, this is definitely an advantage of XML. Similarly, though I haven't done this, I believe I can take XML from the outside world, parse it and store it in objects in the database. Right -- XMLDocument does this. It parses the XML into a DOM-like tree, storing the XML nodes as objects in the database. You still get an XML view on it, but it's actually all objects. Are there advantages to storing the data in Zope as XML vs. storing my data as objects? It can be the same thing. :) You can use XML to seperate content from layout in a clean fashion, by storing document contents in an XML format, and providing a translator of this format into HTML. Pull in the other layout components with ordinary DTML and you have a web page. I've done this with the original XMLDocument version. You can write the translator using DTML, using XMLWidgets. The new XMLDocument will support DTML (and I'll work on XMLWidgets support), and also XSLT which is a standard to transform one XML document into another (and into HTML). If you already decided to use XML for whatever reason, the advantages of the ZODB come into play. Huge XML documents don't need to be loaded into memory all at once. You can also edit smaller parts of an XML document without disrupting the rest, making for faster editing. *and* you can manipulate the XML document using DOM and XSLT. Since there are many XML formats already with new ones being developed all the time, this can potentially be a very powerful use of the ZODB. So, if you are already using XML, Zope can be a source of power. If you're not using XML, you might want to consider using it to store document-style contents so you can seperate it from layout, and so that you can leverage DOM, XPath and XSLT. It may be less useful to use XML to store other kinds of data; that will vary on a case by case basis. Then there are a number of vague possible future payoffs like being able to use various XML standard to query the ZODB, provide unique paths into it, provide pointers and linking facilities, etc. Regards, Martijn ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] XML in Zope
Kevin, I agree with you, the performance will be better and more powerful. The thing missing in zope (dtml) now is that we can not store multiple instance of the same name which is allow with xml: authorabc/authorauthorcde/author. I hope the xml implementation will have this. Rgs, Kent Sin - kentsin.weblogs.com kentsin.imeme.net ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] ZPHP [was Re: [Zope] CHAT]
On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, [iso-8859-1] Gonçalo Gomes wrote: Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting against PHP space on the web? Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I vaguely know, PHP methods seem like a logical step. Hmm... I'm having to setup a PHP web environment for the students next semester, and have elected to run it as a CGI application (tie into existing suid security arcitecture). I'm told there won't be any functionality loss except, just a bit of performance (?). If we didn't care about persistance of the PHP engine, it would be a trivial task to create a PHP method object - just a small python stub using the CGI libraries to call PHP. Or even more trivial - I could hack my existing Logger product to create a dtml-php tag, so you would be able to preprocess your PHP code with DTML tags or embed PHP output in DTML for standard_html_header etc. (Is that my foot bleeding?). The standard response to a dtml-python tag is that it would make it too PHP like, so dtml-php seems very appropriate :-) And then the next step is to import IMP and other PHP apps into Zope land... -- Stuart Bishop Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Alchemist Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science, RMIT University ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] ZPHP [was Re: [Zope] CHAT]
You do lose some functionality using PHP as CGI rather than module: Persistent DB Connections, :( - Original Message - From: "Stuart 'Zen' Bishop" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Gonçalo Gomes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 June 2000 00:24 Subject: [Zope-dev] ZPHP [was Re: [Zope] CHAT] On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, [iso-8859-1] Gonçalo Gomes wrote: Silver_Surfer: how do you see the future of Zope fighting against PHP space on the web? Jim: I don't know much (enough) about PHP, but from what I vaguely know, PHP methods seem like a logical step. Hmm... I'm having to setup a PHP web environment for the students next semester, and have elected to run it as a CGI application (tie into existing suid security arcitecture). I'm told there won't be any functionality loss except, just a bit of performance (?). If we didn't care about persistance of the PHP engine, it would be a trivial task to create a PHP method object - just a small python stub using the CGI libraries to call PHP. Or even more trivial - I could hack my existing Logger product to create a dtml-php tag, so you would be able to preprocess your PHP code with DTML tags or embed PHP output in DTML for standard_html_header etc. (Is that my foot bleeding?). The standard response to a dtml-python tag is that it would make it too PHP like, so dtml-php seems very appropriate :-) And then the next step is to import IMP and other PHP apps into Zope land... -- Stuart Bishop Work: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Senior Systems Alchemist Play: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Computer Science, RMIT University ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ) ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
[Zope-dev] Basic LoginManager HowTo
Has anyone out there actually sarted _using_ LoginManager with ZODB storage? IOW, one that is not dependant on LDAP/SQL/etc., but that is functioning in place of a non-PTK acl_users folder? I am starting to play with it (so many toys, so little time...), and would like to see (if it exists) a basic walkthrough of how to go from: Folder with no userfolder, LM installed -to- Folder with LM-acl_users folder, and ZODB member storage. So, what about it? Anyone got one, or at least could write down the steps/requirements? Much Appreciated, Bill ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
Re: [Zope-dev] Basic LoginManager HowTo
On Fri, Jun 02, 2000 at 07:29:18PM -0600, Bill Anderson wrote: Has anyone out there actually sarted _using_ LoginManager with ZODB storage? IOW, one that is not dependant on LDAP/SQL/etc., but that is functioning in place of a non-PTK acl_users folder? I tried. It's quite easy, except that you have to store the user's password in a property, and access control is somewhat broken WRT passwords, so anyone can read anyone's passwords if they can write DTML. Now I don't plan to just let anyone write DTML, but I don't want to leave this hole open because I know I will forget it sooner or later and open up an exploit. []s, |alo + -- Hack and Roll ( http://www.hackandroll.org ) News for, uh, whatever it is that we are. http://zope.gf.com.br/lalo mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp key: http://zope.gf.com.br/lalo/pessoal/pgp Brazil of Darkness (RPG)--- http://zope.gf.com.br/BroDar ___ Zope-Dev maillist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://lists.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )
