[Zope3-dev] Re: eggs in a Zope 3.3 instance

2006-06-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Jim Fulton wrote:
 Concretely, what do you think about making lib/python in a Zope 3.3
 instance a site for now (calling site.addsitedir())?
 
 I think it's a bad idea, mainly because it's too late to make such a
 change for 3.3. I tell you what I will do though, I'll promise, by
 the end of EP, to have a buildout that lets you define Zope 3.3
 instances with the eggs of your choice.

That sounds very interesting. However, zc.buildout is clearly aimed at
large deployment. A *simple* way of deploying eggs in instances would
still be needed (*I* need it, in fact); if not in Zope 3.3, then at
least later. Currently you only have to drop package directories into
INSTANCE/lib/python, something similar with eggs should also be possible.

I frequently get lost between sys.path, sys.prefix, .pth files and the
site.py module. The fact that a one line fix gets what we want seems
simple enough to me. As said, I'm not the expert here, though :)

Philipp

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[Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: Zope3/branches/3.3/ Fixed issue 525: DateWidget ru-format

2006-06-24 Thread Philipp von Weitershausen
Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:
 Log message for revision 68818:
   Fixed issue 525: DateWidget ru-format
...
 Modified: Zope3/branches/3.3/src/zope/formlib/form.txt
 ===
 --- Zope3/branches/3.3/src/zope/formlib/form.txt  2006-06-24 09:00:09 UTC 
 (rev 68817)
 +++ Zope3/branches/3.3/src/zope/formlib/form.txt  2006-06-24 09:02:44 UTC 
 (rev 68818)
 @@ -1554,7 +1554,7 @@
  input class=textType id=form.max_size name=form.max_size 
 size=10 type=text value=  /
  input class=textType id=form.now name=form.now size=20 
 -   type=text value=2002-12-02 12:30:00  /
 +   type=text value=2002 12 2  12:30:00   /
  
  Note that a EditForm can't make use of a get_rendered method. The 
 get_rendered
  method does only set initial values.

Why does the display of the default DateTime widget change?

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[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze

2006-06-24 Thread buildbot
The Buildbot has detected a failed build of Zope3 trunk 2.4 Linux tlotze.

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Build Reason: changes
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[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 trunk 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton

2006-06-24 Thread buildbot
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: SVN: Zope3/branches/3.3/ Fixed issue 525: DateWidget ru-format

2006-06-24 Thread Benji York

Philipp von Weitershausen wrote:

Dmitry Vasiliev wrote:


Log message for revision 68818:
 Fixed issue 525: DateWidget ru-format



-   type=text value=2002-12-02 12:30:00  /
+   type=text value=2002 12 2  12:30:00   /

Note that a EditForm can't make use of a get_rendered method. The get_rendered
method does only set initial values.



Why does the display of the default DateTime widget change?


...and in such a strange way?
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[Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Martin Aspeli

Hi guys,

I just started using zope.testbrowser and zope.testrecorder for doing
integration tests. The case study is Ploneboard, the long-overdue
message board for Plone, which has a workflow maze to compete with the
best of them. Permissions control actions like reply, delete, edit and
approve/moderate, which vary according to the different types of forum
(e.g. moderated vs. non-moderated), and forms can get pretty complex.
zope.testbrowser gives us a way to sanity-check all that - I love it :)

There are three features I've found myself missing, though.

 o In zope.testbrowser, I sometimes need to be quite specific; for
example, let's say I need to test that user A can see an 'edit' button
on his own post, but not on the post by user B, both of which appear on
the same page.

  In this case, having the ability to select nodes by XPATH would be
incredibly useful - both for getControl()/getLink(), and for doing
assertions (fail if/unless this node exists). I imagine an existing
library would be available to make this reasonably easy to implement?

 o In zope.testrecorder, the ability to add comments that become 
DocTest comments is a stroke of genius. What I'd love to see, though, is 
the ability to add assertions for text. Basically, if I could mark some 
text in the browser and have that become a statement like


   browser.contents
  '...some text in the browser...'

... then that would go a long way towards making the post-processing of 
the rendered DocTest a very minimal exercise.


 o Finally, zope.testrecorder always records full URLs, e.g. 
http://localhost:8080/test/foo. It would be nice if it could render 
those in the doctest at least with some variable substitution, e.g.:


   baseUrl = 'http://localhost:8080/test'

  ...

   browser.open('%s/foo' % baseUrl)

That way, I could make sure that in integration tests, the baseUrl was 
always valid and consistent without needing to do a lot of 
search-and-replace.


Cheers,
Martin

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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Benji York

Martin Aspeli wrote:

  o In zope.testbrowser, [snip] having the ability to select nodes

 by XPATH would be incredibly useful

Yep, I and others have thought the same thing.


I imagine an existing
library would be available to make this reasonably easy to implement?


With ElementTree going into Python 2.5, I suspect testbrowser will grow 
XPath support.


  o In zope.testrecorder, the ability to add comments that become 
DocTest comments is a stroke of genius. What I'd love to see, though, is 
the ability to add assertions for text.


We've considered that too.  Patches welcome. :)

  o Finally, zope.testrecorder always records full URLs, e.g. 
http://localhost:8080/test/foo. It would be nice if it could render 
those in the doctest at least with some variable substitution, e.g.:


Good idea.  The post-record screen (where you choose either Selenium or 
testbrowser output) would be a good place for that.  You could choose 
any substitution you wanted for the host and port portion of the URIs, 
defaulting to whatever the actual value was.  We would have to handle 
the case when more than one base was recorded during the session.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 24 June 2006 19:49, Martin Aspeli wrote:
    In this case, having the ability to select nodes by XPATH would be
 incredibly useful - both for getControl()/getLink(), and for doing
 assertions (fail if/unless this node exists). I imagine an existing
 library would be available to make this reasonably easy to implement?

Yes, I have done that in SchoolTool already. It uses straight libxml2, so no 
fancy lxml or ElementTree, but it works well. We use it far too little. The 
code is here:

http://source.schooltool.org/viewcvs/trunk/schooltool/src/schooltool/testing/analyze.py?rev=5667view=auto

And here it is used:

http://source.schooltool.org/viewcvs/trunk/schooltool/src/schooltool/commendation/Viewing.txt?rev=6137view=auto

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Benji York

Martin Aspeli wrote:

Benji York wrote:
With ElementTree going into Python 2.5, I suspect testbrowser will grow 
XPath support.



Great! (of course, if we could have it sooner) :p


I'm hesitant to add another dependency to Zope 3, especially something 
as grotesque as libxml2. :)  ET seems like a good alternative.  We can 
add ET to Z3 (either the pure-Python or C version) and after Python 2.5 
is the oldest supported version, remove it.


I looked at zope.testrecorder and thought, hey, that looks simple! Then 
I saw the .js file... ;-)


Yeah, the implementation is necessarily somewhat hairy.


Realistically, I don't think I'm likely to have time


Same here.

Yeah, that was my thinking. Actually, I'd prefer if it just rendered it 
as a '%s/foo' % base_url, where base_url was a variable. That way the 
test case could do e.g. base_url = self.portal.absolute_url() and we 
wouldn't have to hardcode anything.


For Zope 3 functional tests where the netloc is ignored that would 
unnecessarily clutter the resulting tests.  If it's going to be a fixed 
value, I prefer the current behavior.  Configurablity sounds good here.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Benji York

Stephan Richter wrote:

On Saturday 24 June 2006 19:49, Martin Aspeli wrote:


  In this case, having the ability to select nodes by XPATH would be
incredibly useful



Yes, I have done that in SchoolTool already.


I'm curious if the other ways of selecting things were no longer 
necessary, or if each still had a place.

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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 24 June 2006 21:43, Benji York wrote:
 Stephan Richter wrote:
  On Saturday 24 June 2006 19:49, Martin Aspeli wrote:
    In this case, having the ability to select nodes by XPATH would be
 incredibly useful
 
  Yes, I have done that in SchoolTool already.

 I'm curious if the other ways of selecting things were no longer
 necessary, or if each still had a place.

Sorry, I did not parse (or better, my lexicon did not recognize the 
patterm ;-) the last part of the sentence.

I often like the XPATH selection, but the simplicity of the current control 
selectors is very nice too and I would not want to miss it. I would be happy 
to replace the regex support with XPATH though. I would also like to think 
much harder about a good set of HTML analyzing tools; this function was 
supposed to be a start in the right direction, but I never got around 
thinking harder about it.

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Benji York

Stephan Richter wrote:
Sorry, I did not parse (or better, my lexicon did not recognize the 
patterm ;-) the last part of the sentence.


You answered the question anyway. :)

I often like the XPATH selection, but the simplicity of the current 
control selectors is very nice too and I would not want to miss it.


That's what I wanted to know.


I would be happy to replace the regex support with XPATH though.


Me too, especially since the regex support is not documented and as such
may be retracted in the future. :)

I would also like to think much harder about a good set of HTML 
analyzing tools; this function was supposed to be a start in the 
right direction, but I never got around thinking harder about it.


Which function is this function?
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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Stephan Richter
On Saturday 24 June 2006 22:35, Benji York wrote:
  I would also like to think much harder about a good set of HTML
  analyzing tools; this function was supposed to be a start in the
  right direction, but I never got around thinking harder about it.

 Which function is this function?

analyze.queryHTML() in the referenced SchoolTool code. I think some 
higher-level functions would be desirable, like: Get text of the specified 
tag. or Ensure that no links are broken. The latter is particularly useful 
when checking for security. But all of this should be an additional API on 
top of testbrowser of course. I think the following would be cool:

   Analyzer(browser).checkForBrokenLinks()
   Analyzer(browser).getText('//h1')
  'Title of Page'

Often I also have results of the sort:

  div class=commendation
h3Well Done!/h3
div style=font-size: 60%
  by span class=grantorSchoolTool Manager/span
  on span class=date.../span
/div
div class=descriptionA job well done./div
  /div

Then I would like something like this to work:

   print Analyzer(browser).getTextOnly('//[EMAIL PROTECTED]commendation]')
  Well Done!
  by SchoolTool Manager on ...
  A job well done.

All I want to ensure is that the right text is shown together. I do not care 
whether this commendation is the first, n-th or last commendation in the 
HTML.

In other scenarios I specifically want to test for order only:

   Analyzer(browser).getTextInOrder(
   ... '//[EMAIL PROTECTED]commendation]/h3')
  ['Good job!', 'Well Done', 'Fantastic'] 

As I said, I have not thought too hard about a specific API recommendation 
yet, but I believe I have enough experience now to think about it now.

Regards,
Stephan
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Re: [Zope3-dev] XPATH in zope.testbrowser, assertions in zope.testrecorder

2006-06-24 Thread Benji York

Stephan Richter wrote:
As I said, I have not thought too hard about a specific API recommendation 
yet, but I believe I have enough experience now to think about it now.


I like the general feel of it.
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