Re: [Zope3-dev] Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-09 Thread Uwe Oestermeier
Fred Drake [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Montag, 9. Oktober 2006 at 5:20 Uhr
+0100 wrote:
Didn't someone write one like this for Z3?  Possibly as part of a
zope3.org thing?  I now vaguely recall something being done, but
that's about all I remember.

Hi,

yes, we started such a thing at the NeckarSprint last year. Unfortunately
it never got ready to use . It uses Kupu and TinyMCE as WYSIWYG editors
besides ReST:

http://svn.zope.org/zope3org/trunk/src/zorg/wikification/

I fear that I will not be able to continue this work in the next few
months, since I have to concentrate on my Bebop project. 
In this project we try to implement a lot of additional features like
previews, versioning, diff views, integration with blog and news views,
filesystem synchronization etc.I would love to see Bebop as a basis for a
zope3.org site, but that's not realistic at the moment.

For the zope3.org site it would probably the best to use an existing tool
like Trac which is dedicated to the need of programmers.

Regards,
Uwe


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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: AW: Where should we place 3rd party packages?

2006-10-09 Thread Jim Fulton

I'm having trouble keeping up with this thread, so I'll
just make some suggestions, which you can take as edicts
if you want to. :)

wrt the repository, if you choose to use the zope subversion repository:

- Projects that want their own trunk, branches and tags
  or that have depenencies on external software not included in a standard
  zope+python installation should be placed in top-level project directories.

- Otherwise, projects can put their packages in src.

wrt installation

Zope installations will have a software area and an instance area.
Each will have lib/python directories. Software can be installed in
these directories or anywhere else on the Python path. You will have full
control over the Python path used via zope.conf.

Zope 3 dosn't provide any packages that it expects things to be
installed in.

I hope this helps. :)

Jim

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Re: [Zope3-dev] Re: IMPORTANT: How to look up adapters

2006-10-09 Thread Jim Fulton

Tres Seaver wrote:

Jim Fulton wrote:


...
There is one case where calling an interface isn't equivalent to 
get/queryAdapter. If you want to supply a context argument to specify
 a different place to look up adapters, you can't pass it to the 
interface. This is an extreme edge case. I know of no place in the

Zope 3 tree where this is needed, but it is something we want to
allow. I propose to provide new functions: getSpecialAdapter and
querySpecialAdapter. These functions will require a context to be
specified and will return the object if it provides the requested
interface and will use __conform__ if it conforms to the interface.



How about 'getAdapterInContext' and 'queryAdapterInContext', instead?


OK. That's better,

Thanks.

The change is checked in BTW.

Jim


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[Zope3-dev] zope.testbrowser + unicode URL

2006-10-09 Thread Adam Groszer
Hello,

Happened to pass a unicode instead of str URL to browser.open().
That caused a nasty exception in Cookie.py.
Might be worth an assert()?

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Re: [Zope3-dev] zope.testbrowser + unicode URL

2006-10-09 Thread Benji York

Adam Groszer wrote:

Happened to pass a unicode instead of str URL to browser.open().
That caused a nasty exception in Cookie.py.
Might be worth an assert()?


I don't think so, but it's really more of a question for the mechanize 
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[Zope3-dev] buildbot failure in Zope3 branches 3.2 2.4 FreeBSD tmiddleton

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[Zope3-dev] Re: [Zope3-checkins] SVN: Zope3/trunk/src/zope/publisher/http.py Fix the level 2 test failure in zope.app.twisted.tests.test_inputbuffering.

2006-10-09 Thread Michael Kerrin
Hi Marius,

On Monday 09 October 2006 20:13, Marius Gedminas wrote:
 Log message for revision 70591:
   Fix the level 2 test failure in
 zope.app.twisted.tests.test_inputbuffering.

I have looked into this a long time but since at the time the problem only 
appeared in a Python patch so I dropped the issue.

I then looked into this 1 / 2 weeks ago and then I remembered how painful 
this was.

The issue, or part of the issue, is that the WSGI specification says that:

  The optional size argument to readline() is not supported, as it may be 
complex for server authors to implement, and is not often used in practice.

I have managed to patch cgi.FieldStorage up with a work around which I sent to 
the web-sig mailing list and which I have finally got around to creating a 
new bug report for python after seeing your checkin - see 
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detailaid=1573931group_id=5470atid=105470

The sole response on web-sig mailing list was to change the WSGI 
specification. But I wonder how many other WSGI applications are effected by 
this. If it just Zope and Twisted then changing the specification should be 
ok, otherwise things could get very messy for WSGI.

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[Zope3-dev] Re: Grrr. zope.org wikis are evil.

2006-10-09 Thread Rob Miller

Martin Aspeli wrote:

Hi Jim,



I have some wiki desires of my own that I'll probably never realize:

- HTML WYSIWYG Wikis that don't use any form os structures text (small s)
  and just use an HTML editor.  I think that structured text of any kind
  is an obstacle to Wiki use.  Moin moin's markup rules drive me as batty
  as old Structured Text drives other people.  ZWiki supports EPOZ
  editing and I'd love to see that used.  Of course, this sort of 
experience

  avoids the need for preview or structured-text documentation.


Wicked can do this, I believe, and it will likely (pending voting) be in 
Plone 3.0. You write ((foo)) and you get a wiki link to foo, regardless 
of text format.


wicked is a bit AT specific, but whit is working to make it be more 
general, and factor out the re-usable bits. I'm sure he can chime in.


i can add a bit more to this.  wicked isn't really a full wiki implementation, 
instead it focuses on the one feature that, IMO, is what really defines a 
wiki:  the ability to very easily link to existing content, or create new 
content if the existing content doesn't already exist.  notable wiki features 
that wicked does NOT cover include the handling of any particular formatting 
markup (wicked doesn't care), and revision control.


wicked was developed against AT, in that specific AT fields on specific 
content types can be made wicked-aware, so that they support wicked's ((wiki 
syntax)).  thus it becomes very easy to add wiki-like behaviour to any 
existing content type.  we don't want this to be tightly coupled, however, and 
some effort has been made to decouple it.  ideally, the injection of the 
wicked evaluation, the wiki syntax (linking only, formatting concerns are 
outside wicked's domain) that wicked honors, and the means for performing the 
wiki evaluation (currently makes heavy use of CMF's portal_catalog for this) 
would all be pluggable, usable in any arbitrary python environment that 
supports adaptation.  considerable progress has been made on this front, but 
i'm not sure what the absolute latest is.


if anyone wants to see wicked in action, you can play around in the sandbox 
project on openplans.org: http://openplans.org/projects/sandbox.  the code is 
available in the plone collective: http://dev.plone.org/collective/browser/wicked.


hth,

-r

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[Zope3-dev] zope.interface category in pypi

2006-10-09 Thread Baiju M

Hi Fred,
  Can you add add 'Framework :: Zope3' to category here:
http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi/zope.interface

Now it's not listed here:
 http://cheeseshop.python.org/pypi?:action=browseamp;c=515

May be we have to update that release?

Regards,
Baiju M
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