We run it without any issues.
Paul
> On 9 May 2020, at 19:51, Eric Asadoorian via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Running v15.6 on 10.12.6 without any issues. I can't seem to locate
> certification docs.
>
> Simple question: Can v15 run under High Sierra or are there
We have a big legacy system that started its life in 1990, so on the French
version 4. It has been migrated through versions like 6.5, 6.8, 2003, 2004,
v11, v12, v15 and now v17. We made the jump from v12 to v15. The biggest issues
were getting the unique ids in place and removing 4D chart.
Hi Peter,
Unless we’re seriously out of touch, v17r4 is the last version that supports
32bits and thus 4D Write classic. Depending on what you’ve done with it, a
major rewrite (pun intended) is required. The code doesn’t translate and any
data you have needs to be converted. 4D hasn’t done
to mention the platform for compilation.
>
> and then, finally with 17R5 we no longer have 32-bit support.
>
>> 2019/10/18 12:44、Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
>> I can no longer find the option to compile for both platforms. Is this no
&
Hi,
We have been running a v15 server on Mac OSX clients. We now plan on moving to
v17 and running on Windows server with Mac clients.
I haven’t run a 4D database on a Windows server for about 10 years. I can no
longer find the option to compile for both platforms. Is this no longer
Hi John,
Thanks for your input. I wouldn’t know where to begin creating the
authentication digest myself. Can you point me somewhere?
Cheers,
Paul
> Le 27 sept. 2019 à 20:27, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> Using a HTTP tracing tool where you could see all of
n the right HTTP error code. Hopefully you know ahead of time
> what method to use and this is better because you omit the extra request and
> should get any error code directly from the site.
>
> John DeSoi, Ph.D.
>
>
>
>> On Sep 27, 2019, at 11:07 AM, Paul
Hi everyone,
I’m using HTTP AUTHENTICATE to authenticate connections to a web server. The
call to authenticate is immediately followed by a HTTP get(). The HTTP get
occasionally fails and I’ve been able to trace this to a failed HTTP
AUTHENTICATE, which appears to be an error from the website.
You’d have to roll your own.
Paul
> On 5 Sep 2019, at 16:22, Eric Naujock via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Does anyone have a replacement login system for 4D that offers stronger
> authentication security than the current system. Since the current system
> does not enforce
Hi everyone,
I have a listbox with 21 columns and I have to change the order in which the
columns are displayed. I have a vague recollection that this is possible but I
can’t find any way to do so. I was thinking it would be possible to click on a
column, hold down the mouse button and slide
I have a version that still works in v15. Haven’t tried with newer versions.
Paul
> On 24 May 2019, at 19:24, Peter Jakobsson via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I have a one-off need to create 2 very small (about 9 rows each, 2 columns)
> spreadsheets from 4D in native
Maybe it’s part of the 4D license validation routine trying to phone home...
> Le 4 mai 2019 à 17:58, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> And, the reboot fixed whatever was bothering it. Runs fine now.
>
>> On May 4, 2019, at 8:07 AM, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech
Hi,
We’re working on incorporating the retrieval of fairly voluminous xml from our
website in an interactive form in 4D. Since we have workstations spread around
about 50 locations accessing 4D Server over a VPN and the web server is running
in the same subnet as 4D Server, it seems logical to
It probably won’t help you... but I have a sort of toolbox through which the
launching of all processes and the opening and closing of their respective
windows go. I also use it for sending and receiving messages between processes.
Paul
> On 8 Nov 2018, at 21:16, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
Many years ago... had to use 4D Insider and create a new structure and move
everything. No longer an option. Copy/paste?
Paul
> On 25 Oct 2018, at 23:39, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> I'm remembering something about really long statements inside a Begin SQL
How could it be shared between processes with a name starting with $?
Paul
> On 20 Oct 2018, at 15:50, Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> Well I guess I must be doing something wrong :)
> Using v17r3:
>
> In the Startup method I create a new Shared Object:
>
>
Hi,
We’re using v15 on High Sierra for a few of our clients. We’ve noticed an issue
on some Macs that have been upgraded to High Sierra. Those machines have a
number format displayed in 4D which is not what we’re seeing in the System
Preferences. For example, the system prefs have “,” as the
We have that often. However, we once had 20 plus users who were showing as
Designer!!!
Paul
> On 18 Sep 2018, at 23:16, Tom Dillon via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> On two 4D servers running on a Mac Mini the 4D User is occasionally blank.
> Most of the time they're either all
When I first saw 4D’s requirement for unique indexes I was tempted to replace
other ids in our databases with UUIDs in order to save space ... I quickly gave
up on that idea. I just let 4D manage UUIDs to have unique IDs for backup and
journalizing functions and I don’t assume anything
In our case, users have created about 1,500 template documents in 7 languages.
I’d be lynched if I didn’t provide a path to convert them.
Paul
> On 29 Aug 2018, at 21:56, Richard Wright via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> That’s what I was afraid of. Does it not occur to anyone
We’ve been looking at converting a pretty complex system with form letters,
paragraphs, lots of imbedded fields, hot links and html expressions. It looks
like a huge job just trying to convert the old docs. We think the rewrite will
take more effort than the original development.
Paul
> On
Hi,
Has anyone been able to do any testing with the Mojave beta and v15/v16 in 32
bit mode?
I’d appreciate any feedback.
Thanks,
Paul
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Bernd,
We’ve had this problem with 2 tables in a large DB for years... since 2011. We
don’t have anything stored outside the data file. We’ve never been able to
identify any data loss.
I’ve posted here a few times in the past about this. No solutions so far.
Paul Lovejoy
> On 30 Jul 2018,
It’s a good way to query the history too.
Paul
> On 19 Jul 2018, at 10:16, Paul Dennis via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> I use the nabble web interface to read and post.
> Paul
>
>
>
> --
> Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html
>
Is it just me, or does anyone else expect that a database engine would handle
preemptive threads, transactions and concurrence transparently?
Why would I need to know about cooperative versus preemptive threads in the
best of worlds?
Paul
> On 12 Jul 2018, at 15:19, Peter Bozek via 4D_Tech
Thanks for sharing!
Paul
> On 1 May 2018, at 16:43, Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> Over the weekend, we ran our production 4D Server using the new network
> layer. We ran from midnight Saturday until midnight Monday, and we peaked at
> about 145 users and 1200
Hi,
Yes, it looks just like that. I guess we’ll have to plan on moving to v16.
Cheers,
Paul
> Le 1 mai 2018 à 08:43, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> sounds similar to ACI0097483 (=ACI0097510)
>
> https://bugs.4d.fr/fixedbugslist?version=16.3_HF2
>
> good
Hi,
I’m sharing my experience with 64 bit 4D 15.5 on Mac OS X during a real life
“test” from last Saturday to Monday morning.
We have a database of about 120gb with about 160 simultaneous users. It runs on
a bi-processor xServe with SSDs and 64gb of RAM.
After testing for a few days, we
th v15.5, but on Windows.
>
> Except, I run a 4D client on the same machine as the server, that is running
> all the code. Would that be a solution for you?
>
> Regards,
>
> Rudy Mortier
> Two Way Communications bvba
>
>
>
>> On 30 Apr 2018, at 09:06, Paul
Hi,
We have been using MyConnect in 2 fairly large databases to extract data from a
MySQL server every night of the last 9 or 10 years. For the last few weeks
we’ve been struggling to track down 4D Server crashes which appear to be
occurring due to MyConnect or something in our code related to
B-AM/dp/B00OBRE5UE/ref=sr_1_5?s=pc=UTF8=1524473660=1-5=512gb+ssd>
>
> Regards,
>
> Wayne
>
>
> [image: --]
> Wayne Stewart
> [image: http://]about.me/waynestewart
> <http://about.me/waynestewart>
>
>
> On 23 April 2018 at 15:51, Paul Lovejoy v
Chuck,
You know the old saying: “A watched pot never boils.”
Watching 4D reload the same table with 7 million records 8 times to generate 8
indexes is kind of like that.
I don’t have the luxury of installing an SSD RAID. I’m sure better hardware
would help.
Paul
> Le 23 avr. 2018 à
Hi,
I guess our database of 120gb, running on a 32 bit machine doesn’t benefit from
this. We were working on the most recent R release and yesterday we went to
15.5.
When reindexing the entire database, 4D Server/4D are still going index by
index instead of table by table.
Or maybe I missed
> --
> Jeffrey Kain
> jeffrey.k...@gmail.com
>
>
>> On Apr 21, 2018, at 8:04 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I guess you could call this a gripe but I don’t understand why, if a table
>> has several indexes, 4D
Hi,
I’m working with a pretty big database, with about 120gb of data and about 45
million records over about 250 tables. This database has been in use for about
20 years and is growing ever faster.
I guess you could call this a gripe but I don’t understand why, if a table has
several indexes,
What is spooky is that nobody seems to be 100% behind the ServerNet
architecture. This means that if we want 64 bit support, we have to go with a
potentially troublesome network layer.
Paul
> Le 21 avr. 2018 à 01:30, Timothy Penner via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> Hi
Hi,
We have been having some intermittent crashes with 4D Server, 150+ users and a
120gb database. We use “Execute on server” quite a bit and the release notes
for 15.5 say a bug was fixed which could cause crashes with Execute on server.
We’re preparing to go from v15.4 to v15.5 and it
Hi everyone,
We have a 4D Server v15 application running which has recently started leaving
2 or 3 .tmp files in the Temporary files folder. Is there any way to read these
files and determine which process created them?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
Hi,
We’ve been using hierarchical lists with 2 levels for some time, particularly
in drop down menus. There are 4D commands which allow us to get the name and
position of the element selected as well as the parent’s name and position. We
need to start using 3 or 4 levels and I’m not clear on
Hi Pat and Chip,
Thanks for your replies.
I’ve done a lot of reading up in the meantime. This looks like a big one for
anyone who’s doing business in Europe. The security requirements are quite
extensive.
I don’t have time to get into all of it right now but apparently US companies,
for
Hi everyone,
Some of you doing business in Europe may be aware of the new set of rules which
will took effect on May 25 2016 and must be applied by May 25 2017. II was
asked to assess the impact on a big database we manage in 4D and I was
wondering if anyone else has spent time and effort on
We’ve been using 4D Write quite extensively for years. We have over 200 user
licences on two big databases. We mostly use it now to generate html emails.
We haven’t undertaken the move to downgrade to the “pro” version, which we are
not looking forward to at all.
4D has been gutting
Hi Jeff,
We have 4D server 15.4 running on Apple hardware, 8 cores - 16 with
hyperthreading. From what I can see in Activity Monitor, only half of the cores
get used, which makes me suspect the virtual cores are not being used. This is
v15 and 32 bit. Maybe v16 and/or 64 bit changes that.
Thanks for your comments.
4D Server, the application, data and backups are on internal SSDs on an xServe.
The application does access text and xml files on a mounted SMB volume. Since
upgrading to v15 we’ve noticed some problems with reading and writing to the
SMB volume. We suspect this may
years.
>
> Ron Rosell
>
>
>
>> On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:17 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We’ve have two big freezes in 16 hours on 110 gb database with about 150
>> users. 4D v15.4 is r
Hi,
We’ve have two big freezes in 16 hours on 110 gb database with about 150 users.
4D v15.4 is running on Mac OS X 10.10.5 on an xServe with 16gb RAM and 1tb SSD.
There don’t appear to be any issues with the hardware. The Console doesn’t show
anything in particular, other than a 4D Server
Chip,
I've noticed the same thing.
Sadly I think your suspicions are founded.
4D doesn't share much information in the way of marketing statistics.
Paul
> On 5 oct. 2017, at 18:52, Chip Scheide via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
>
> I know that many of you have been on this
m/4Dv16/4D/16.2/Using-tokens-in-formulas.300-3432926.en.html
>
>> 2017/09/22 0:34、Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
>>
>> I want to use the Execute command in a multi-lingual environment use it to
>> execute 4D commands such as ARRAY TEXT(). Of
cute-in this case you could just hold the local command ids in an array.
> Execute($_t_CommandName)
>
> Either way you have to convert from the language you wrote the statement in
> to an ID and then get the localised name of the command from the ID
>
>
> Hope thats enough for you
Hi everyone,
I want to use the Execute command in a multi-lingual environment use it to
execute 4D commands such as ARRAY TEXT(). Of course, this would fail as is on a
French version of 4D. I believe there’s a way to use Execute() with the
internal command numbers but I can’t find anything in
xt fields have the
> Multi-style checkbox checked in Properties.
>
> Here is a v14 picture:
> http://kb.4d.com/assetid=77175
>
> And v15 feature:
> http://livedoc.4d.com/4D-Design-Reference-15.4/Properties-for-active-objects/Multi-style-Rich-text-area.300-3285451.en.html
>
&g
effrey Kain via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
>> <mailto:4d_tech@lists.4d.com>> a écrit :
>>
>> What character set are you using?
>>
>>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 7:33 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com
>>> <mailto:4d_tech@list
d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> What character set are you using?
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 7:33 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The mails are sent to the desired destination but the subject and the
4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> What character set are you using?
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 7:33 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> The mails are sent to the desired destination but the subject and the body
>> are often trun
Hi everyone,
Last week we upgraded a v12 database to v15. Most things are working perfectly
but we have some serious issues sending emails with the SMTP commands.
We have been sending hundreds of thousands of emails successfully with our
application over the years. Now we are encountering a
Hi,
We’ve been using CanvasJS on a v12 and v15 app running on Mac. We just tested
it on Windows 8 and we get an error 1010 saying “The specified module could not
be found”. For some reason it won’t load, and is not available within the app.
Has anyone used CanvasJS on Windows? Do you have this
Neil,
Yes, we’ve been looking into the Mac Pro as an option to replace a stack of
xServes. But the Mac Pro is end- 2013 without any updates. It’s getting long in
the tooth and much of the price is for high-end graphics which don’t help one
bit. We’ve read rumors of a modular Mac Pro for 2018.
Neil,
Thanks for the reply. It’s a pity. With Apple having abandoned server hardware
years ago, the only legal choice is Windows. What a shame for a non-Windows
shop to have to support a Windows server just for that. That adds lots of cost
and complexity.
Paul
> Le 16 juin 2017 à 15:33,
I remember years ago 4D “Universal” was supposed to run on Linux one day. I
haven’t followed the DEVCONs in a while. Are there still any discussions
concerning a Linux version of 4D Server?
Paul
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Thanks to everyone for your help and advice.
The Power Sleep option was a killer. When we turned it off the 4D Server
performance problems went away instantly. What a relief. Why on earth would
Apple even have that option available and set to default on a server OS?
In any case, the immediate
Hi,
We are hitting the limits of our old xServe hardware which is currently running
large v12 databases. We are planning a major upgrade to 4D v15 but we are
running into difficulties with the stability of these old xServes with OS X
10.10 or more recent, which is required for v15. We are
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>
>> On May 12, 2017, at 9:00 AM, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yes, great idea. Deleting the filter and the repairing with
h FORM LOAD, FORM GET OBJECTS, OBJECT Get filter
> and process the results.
>
> alternatively,
> you could create a copy of the structure,
> delete the filter in toolbox and run MSC verify.
>
> 2017/05/12 20:08、Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com<mailto:
Hi everyone,
With the good old 4D Insider it was easy to find where filters and formats
created in the Toolbox were used in a structure. This feature disappeared with
v11 and I certainly miss it, as I have to remove filters from fields and
variables in v15 which are causing problems with
s the user to long-press a key to enter
> accented characters.
>
> last but not least, it the problem restricted to 4D or any application?
>
>> 2017/05/11 22:54、Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> のメール：
>>
>> We have noticed an annoying issue wi
Hi everyone,
We have noticed an annoying issue with the circumflex character (^) on OS X
10.10.5.
If a user wants to write the word capôter, the circumflex “^" is typed before
typing the “o". The system then placed the circumflex on top of the o to
produce “ô".
What we are seeing is
Great. Thanks for the info.
Paul
> Le 4 mai 2017 à 09:56, Arnaud de Montard via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
>
>> Le 4 mai 2017 à 07:38, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Hi Arnaud,
>>
>
>> Le 3 mai 2017 à 17:12, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
>> écrit :
>>
>> Has anyone successfully run 4D server v12 on OSX 10.10.5?
>
> Hi Paul,
> v12.6 with osX 10.10.5
> - frequent crashes when I quit in development mode, no
Hi,
We are migrating a couple of large databases from v12 to v15. The databases are
running on vintage XServe hardware. In order to facilitate the move, I was
wondering if it is prudent to update our xServes to 10.10.5 and continue
running v12.6 of 4D Server for a short time while we handle
:
>
>> Check out the barcode plugin from HM Plugins
>> https://www.hmplugins.com/en/hmBarcode/Features-133.html
>>
>> On 26 April 2017 at 09:23, Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>>
Hi,
I spent some time on the partner section looking but I couldn’t find anything
on QR codes. Does anything exist to produce these things?
Thanks in advance,
Paul
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Wow!
It’s great having a benevolent resident genius here!
Thanks Miyako.
Paul
> Le 7 mars 2017 à 08:10, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> Thank you Arnaud your code gave me the needed inspiration :)
>
>
You missed my point on your point ;-)
You can offer all of that without giving the user access to that in case you
DON’T want them to have it. For example, you could create a set via a query,
then give your users access to ONLY query the selection, or whatever. You don’t
need that new 4D weird
Chuck,
As a developer I’ve already offered the functionality to query in the
selection, join to the existing selection or use a query result to exclude from
the selection.
> Le 6 mars 2017 à 21:29, Charles Miller via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> a
> écrit :
>
> On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 3:25
Just a few days ago we noticed something similar on a v12 4D Server. There were
a number of “phantom” processes running, even though the clients had logged
out. From what I could see, these were the server-side processes of methods
with the attribute set to execute on the server. One of them
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