Re: High Sierra or Mojave?

2019-12-13 Thread Doug Hall via 4D_Tech
gt; measures Apple is imposing on Mojave/Catalina. > > Mojave runs fine over here. > I would stay away from Catalina for some more months. > > Greetings from Germany, > Bernd Fröhlich > ** > 4D Internet

Re: High Sierra or Mojave?

2019-12-11 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
There's really no need for Catalina in my opinion. No big improvements, lots more headaches... The phrase macOS's Vista is pretty appropriate... :) > On Dec 10, 2019, at 8:31 PM, John DeSoi via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Mohave works fine with 4D 17 including Mac Mini

Re: High Sierra or Mojave?

2019-12-11 Thread Bernd Fröhlich via 4D_Tech
Doug Hall: > I want to stay > relatively close to the latest OS, but I'm a bit weary of the security > measures Apple is imposing on Mojave/Catalina. Mojave runs fine over here. I would stay away from Catalina for some more months. Greetings from Germany, Bernd

Re: High Sierra or Mojave?

2019-12-10 Thread John DeSoi via 4D_Tech
17, to gain 64 bit > compatibility on the client side with new Apple hardware. Question: Should > I upgrade a late 2014 Mac Mini w/16GB Ram, running Sierra (10.12.6) to High > Sierra or Mojave? I'm also using Homebrew on a Web Client machine I'm > using, that shares the same specs as this 4D

Re: High Sierra or Mojave?

2019-12-10 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
I was a late migrator to Mojave and haven't found the security measures cumbersome. Nothing like what I'm reading is SOP with Catalina. > On Dec 10, 2019, at 3:14 PM, Doug Hall via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > I'm upgrading my 4D structure from 4D v15 to v

High Sierra or Mojave?

2019-12-10 Thread Doug Hall via 4D_Tech
I'm upgrading my 4D structure from 4D v15 to v17, to gain 64 bit compatibility on the client side with new Apple hardware. Question: Should I upgrade a late 2014 Mac Mini w/16GB Ram, running Sierra (10.12.6) to High Sierra or Mojave? I'm also using Homebrew on a Web Client machine I'm using

Re: [OFF] Mojave Backup Server Authentication Fail

2019-09-13 Thread Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech
Disaster averted…. After restarting both machines, and re-adding the TM destination, it’s working as expected. I’m used to working with Linux servers as of late and did not think that restarting the OS would make a difference. I miss the old days when we did not have to power cycle devices.

Re: V17 R - Mojave compatibility

2019-02-15 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Mitch, I've been using 17R3 and recently R4 with Mojave with no issues. I'm not doing production or using any fancy plugins with it but for general development it's been fine. On Fri, Feb 15, 2019 at 10:58 AM Mitchell Shiller via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Hi, > > I

V17 R - Mojave compatibility

2019-02-15 Thread Mitchell Shiller via 4D_Tech
Hi, I know that 17.1 is Mojave compatible. I am using 17R3. (I need some 4D WP features). Question: will there be an 17 R release that will be Mojave compatible or will I have to wait for v18? Thanks Mitch Sent from my iPhone

Re: Mojave

2018-12-04 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Hi Jim, Thank you very much. That gives me some direction on what I’ll need to look for. Much obliged! -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Dec 4, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Jim Hays via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Good graphics - 32 bit

Re: Mojave

2018-12-04 Thread Jim Hays via 4D_Tech
; > > > On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Jim Hays via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > > > We had a problem with SVG graphics in v17.0 on Mojave - fixed with v17 > HF3. > > ** > 4D Int

Re: Mojave

2018-12-04 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Thanks for the list, Miyako. Very helpful. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Dec 3, 2018, at 5:16 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > ACI0098799On macOS 10.14.x (Mojave), unexpected w

Re: 4D Mojave full disk access

2018-12-03 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Thanks for chiming in Keisuke. Looks like this particular security protection included in Mojave should not be anything to worry about for general file access from 4D. Amin’s code is certainly good to keep around. Thanks again Amin! John > On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:22 PM, Keisuke Miyako

Re: 4D Mojave full disk access

2018-12-03 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
full disk access on Mojave protect system directories that store private and sensitive information, such as browser history, call history, geolocation, messages and contacts. https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2018/702 see slide #22 for full list 2018/12/04 5:49、JOHN BAUGHMAN via

Re: Mojave

2018-12-03 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
Hello, there are 4 Mojave related issues listed on the 17.0HF 4 fix list. https://bugs.4d.fr/fixedbugslist?version=17.0_HF4 ACI0098799On macOS 10.14.x (Mojave), unexpected white vertical line is displayed in the Administration window. ACI0098805Unexpected error "Could not open the spec

Re: Mojave

2018-12-03 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
Hi Jim, Do you have more specific information about this issue? Thanks. -- Cannon.Smith Synergy Farm Solutions Inc. Hill Spring, AB Canada 403-626-3236 > On Dec 3, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Jim Hays via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > We had a problem with SVG graphics in

Re: Mojave

2018-12-03 Thread Jim Hays via 4D_Tech
We had a problem with SVG graphics in v17.0 on Mojave - fixed with v17 HF3. On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 4:47 PM Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Thanks John and Kirk. I appreciate the feedback. If anyone else has more > information, feel free to chime in

Re: 4D Mojave full disk access

2018-12-03 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
d on what you mean by “full disk access”? In Mojave what >> becomes inaccessible? >> John > > John, as an example. My App scans the emails from Apple Mail and shows them > inside a Listbox to work with them (grab attachments, archieve to clients, > reply,delete, ..) then I move them

Re: 4D Mojave full disk access

2018-12-03 Thread ADeeg via 4D_Tech
4D Tech mailing list wrote > Armin, > Thanks! > > Could you expand on what you mean by “full disk access”? In Mojave what > becomes inaccessible? > John John, as an example. My App scans the emails from Apple Mail and shows them inside a Listbox to work with them

Re: 4D Mojave full disk access

2018-12-03 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Armin, Thanks! Could you expand on what you mean by “full disk access”? In Mojave what becomes inaccessible? John > On Dec 3, 2018, at 3:38 AM, ADeeg via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > if your app needs full disk access an macOS 10.

4D Mojave full disk access

2018-12-03 Thread ADeeg via 4D_Tech
Hi, if your app needs full disk access an macOS 10.14.x Mojave and newer, then the users have to grant the access for your 4D application. I use this to check the access privileges: C_TEXT($in;$out;$err;$path) If ((<>SystemVersion="Mac 10.14") | (<>SystemVersion="Mac

Re: Mojave

2018-11-30 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
> wrote: > > I had to convert all my pict format graphics, static and in the picture > library. Otherwise 4D would crash when a form containing one or more of them > was displayed. > > 16R6.. client is experimenting with a couple of clients running Mojave. So > far no

Re: Mojave

2018-11-30 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Canon, I haven't had any issues running v17 on Mojave. I'm not really doing anything with v16 anymore so can't speak to that. v15 is mostly OK except for issues with the web area. On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 6:18 AM Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I don’t belie

Re: Mojave

2018-11-30 Thread Pat Bensky via 4D_Tech
elieve 4D has released a version that is fully compatible with > Mojave, unless I missed an announcement. But I’m getting outside pressure > to upgrade from Sierra to Mojave and may have to do it anyway. From what > I’ve heard, v17 seems to work good enough for development at least in >

Mojave

2018-11-30 Thread Cannon Smith via 4D_Tech
I don’t believe 4D has released a version that is fully compatible with Mojave, unless I missed an announcement. But I’m getting outside pressure to upgrade from Sierra to Mojave and may have to do it anyway. From what I’ve heard, v17 seems to work good enough for development at least in Mojave

Re: TAOW (Mojave and CREATE THUMBNAIL)

2018-11-28 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
TAOW is a support portal. of course, a large portion of all support cases has an underlying bug, but still, the primary objective there is to offer support. partners who open a support case on TAOW, has the advantage of communicating with a 4D member of staff. the bug is prioritised because

Re: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave

2018-11-26 Thread Allan Udy via 4D_Tech
@lists.4d.com> Subject:4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave I have built a stand-alone Application v16.4 database on a Mac OS machine running High Sierra (10.13.6). I successfully create an empty datafile and run it on the same High Sierra (10.13.6) machine. I transfer the entire s

Re: TAOW (Mojave and CREATE THUMBNAIL)

2018-11-26 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Thanks Keisuke. So I must be going to the wrong place to see the bug list. I always end up at taow.4d.com but only see my support cases. I thought I could search the TAOW for reported issues before reporting my own. Is this not the case? If not, how? Thanks, John > On Nov 25, 2018, at

Re: TAOW (Mojave and CREATE THUMBNAIL)

2018-11-25 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
for reference: ACI0098954 https://bugs.4d.fr/fixedbugslist?Version=17.0_HF4 2018/11/25 18:18、Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: it is already registered and fixed in the latest nightly build. problem only manifests if the width is a multiple of

Re: TAOW (Mojave and CREATE THUMBNAIL)

2018-11-25 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
it is already registered and fixed in the latest nightly build. problem only manifests if the width is a multiple of 4. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

TAOW (Mojave and CREATE THUMBNAIL)

2018-11-24 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
I want to see if this has already been reported but don’t see how to search for existing cases about Mac OS 10.14 in the TAOW. Running 10.14.1 with 16R6 if I do… CREATE THUMBNAIL($ImagePtr->;vThumbnail;98;120) vThumbnail displays slanted to the left with what looks like multiple

Re: LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS, v15, on MacOS Mojave

2018-11-20 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
for sure you can open word or excel documents. what you can't do is specify which version of Word (if there are multiple installations) is launched. 2018/11/20 18:42、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: Yes, I could. But sometimes it

Re: LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS, v15, on MacOS Mojave

2018-11-20 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech
Hi Keisuke, Yes, I could. But sometimes it concerns excel or word documents, so that wouldn’t work, at least not on a Mac. Or am I wrong? Regards, Rudy Mortier Two Way Communications bvba > On 20 Nov 2018, at 05:54, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > could you

Re: LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS, v15, on MacOS Mojave

2018-11-19 Thread Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
could you not simply do OPEN URL ($path) //default app OPEN URL ($path;"Preview") //specified app http://doc.4d.com/4Dv15/4D/15.6/OPEN-URL.301-3817577.en.html 2018/11/19 22:56、Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール: The syntax I use is:

LAUNCH EXTERNAL PROCESS, v15, on MacOS Mojave

2018-11-19 Thread Two Way Communications via 4D_Tech
A customer of mine recently upgraded his MacBook Pro to MacOS Mojave. He is running a stand-alone 4D app, compiled with 4D v15.4. This app has been installed in the ‘Applications’ folder, which is not inside the /Users/Username/ folder, but in Macintosh HD/Applications. Now, in the application

Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-14 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
Yes, you can set up colours for dark mode in the editor. Dark mode doesn’t affect the application windows, though. I expect they too can be faked, but these are things that an application which is configured to run under Mojave should do automatically when the appearance mode is changed. Maybe

Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-13 Thread Jim Medlen via 4D_Tech
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Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-13 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
You can set up your own dark mode to write code. > On Nov 13, 2018, at 6:37 AM, Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > I’m slightly surprised there’s been no response to this from anyone at 4D. > Dark mode is a pleasant environment in which to write code and it’s

Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-13 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
I’m slightly surprised there’s been no response to this from anyone at 4D. Dark mode is a pleasant environment in which to write code and it’s curious that 4D seems not to support it. Jeremy > On 6 Nov 2018, at 08:31, Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Is there a

Re: Mac Mojave and v17?

2018-11-12 Thread Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech
; > The 2 ALP issues are something tied to an internal plugin call, so it’s out > of their hands…they have to wait for 4D to fix it. > > This drawing issue appeared in the later versions of Mojave beta, about 2 > weeks before the official release. > > It’s definitely something changed

Re: Mac Mojave and v17?

2018-11-09 Thread Randy Jaynes via 4D_Tech
for 4D to fix it. This drawing issue appeared in the later versions of Mojave beta, about 2 weeks before the official release. It’s definitely something changed in MacOS that 4D has been using internally for many years. Randy

Re: Mac Mojave and v17?

2018-11-09 Thread Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
Nothing too serious in my experience. There's some odd flickering when you resize windows, but I haven't had any functionality issues. > On Nov 9, 2018, at 3:18 PM, Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > Anyone have any experience with this? I just picked up one of the

Mac Mojave and v17?

2018-11-09 Thread Dave Nasralla via 4D_Tech
Hi, Anyone have any experience with this? I just picked up one of the new 6 core Mac Minis with 32GB of RAM. Just wondering if anyone is aware of any gotcha's or issues. I'll be running 64bit v17 apps and one v17 32bit app. dave -- David Nasralla Clean Air Engineering

Re: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave

2018-11-06 Thread Charles Miller via 4D_Tech
han this nug. > > David Ringsmuth > > From: Walt Nelson via 4D_Tech > Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 7:30 PM > To: Dani Beaubien via 4D_Tech > Cc: Walt Nelson > Subject: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave > > Folks, > > I have built a stand-alone Applicat

RE: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave

2018-11-06 Thread David Ringsmuth via 4D_Tech
Ringsmuth From: Walt Nelson via 4D_Tech Sent: Sunday, November 4, 2018 7:30 PM To: Dani Beaubien via 4D_Tech Cc: Walt Nelson Subject: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave Folks, I have built a stand-alone Application v16.4 database on a Mac OS machine running High Sierra (10.13.6). I

Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-06 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
Me, or 4Dv17? Jeremy > On 6 Nov 2018, at 15:51, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > > Read more Nietzsche? > > On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:31 AM Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech < > 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > >> Is there a way of getting applications built in v17 - and indeed

Re: Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-06 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Read more Nietzsche? On Tue, Nov 6, 2018 at 12:31 AM Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Is there a way of getting applications built in v17 - and indeed v17 > itself - to honour dark mode? > > Jeremy >

Mojave, dark mode and v17

2018-11-06 Thread Jeremy Roussak via 4D_Tech
Is there a way of getting applications built in v17 - and indeed v17 itself - to honour dark mode? Jeremy ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options:

Re: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave

2018-11-05 Thread Walt Nelson via 4D_Tech
Koen, Yes, I did do that. Transferred using AirDrop between the two machines. Were you able to get the Built App to launch successfully? Anyone else? Thanks, Walt > On Nov 4, 2018, at 11:59 PM, Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech > <4d_tech@lists.4d.com > wrote: > >

Re: 4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave

2018-11-05 Thread Koen Van Hooreweghe via 4D_Tech
and-alone built database to a laptop running Mojave > (10.14). > > When opening that database, I get the following error: ‘You cannot open this > database because the data file (or one of its segments) is locked.’ with an > OK button. > Compass bvba

4D v16.4 Built database won't open in Mojave

2018-11-04 Thread Walt Nelson via 4D_Tech
Folks, I have built a stand-alone Application v16.4 database on a Mac OS machine running High Sierra (10.13.6). I successfully create an empty datafile and run it on the same High Sierra (10.13.6) machine. I transfer the entire stand-alone built database to a laptop running Mojave (10.14

Re: 4D v17 & macOS Mojave beta

2018-10-26 Thread Jim Crate via 4D_Tech
On Oct 25, 2018, at 6:05 PM, JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > One of my client’s decided to upgrade a computer to Mojave and reported that > 4D was creating. > > I think I have narrowed down the problem at least for my application. It > looks l

Re: 4D v17 & macOS Mojave beta

2018-10-25 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
One of my client’s decided to upgrade a computer to Mojave and reported that 4D was creating. I think I have narrowed down the problem at least for my application. It looks like any form that has static pictures or maybe even picture buttons causes 4D to crash both in the design environment

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-20 Thread Balinder Walia via 4D_Tech
+1 to Virtualbox, it is highly configurable and can be automated using simple config files...to setup perfect dev environment, networking etc. Balinder On Sat, 20 Oct 2018 at 22:17, JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Kirk, > > I highly recommend Oracle VirtualBox

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-20 Thread JOHN BAUGHMAN via 4D_Tech
Kirk, I highly recommend Oracle VirtualBox it’s FREE and I have found it far easier to setup and maintain than either VMWAre or Parallels. Oracle does a great job of keeping it updated. Just had an update this morning. I am currently running Windows 2008 Server 32bit and

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-20 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
Milan, I really haven't good luck attempting to use VMWare and am not particularly moved to buy Parallels when I had all the parts laying around to come up with a perfectly good solution. If I were making a habit of needing that older system I might take a look at it but this works for what I

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-20 Thread Milan Adamov via 4D_Tech
> On Oct 20, 2018, at 01:16, Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> > wrote: > > On the other hand I spent a couple of hours setting up an external drive as > a boot drive (with Mavericks!) so I can boot an old laptop into that for > working with a v11 db. Just a thought. Why not

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-19 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
with a v11 db. Just a thought. On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 2:31 PM macjimbo via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > I just tried running 4D 15.6 (4D, not a built app) on a Mac with Mojave and it > just crashed on launch. > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA =

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-19 Thread Lee Hinde via 4D_Tech
uilt app) on a Mac with Mojave and > it just crashed on launch. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech Unsub: mailto:4d_tech-unsubscr...@lists.4d.com **

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-19 Thread macjimbo via 4D_Tech
I just tried running 4D 15.6 (4D, not a built app) on a Mac with Mojave and it just crashed on launch. I'm not using Webkit, in fact I only launched it with the standard plugins. So I don't really know what to do, other than start down the 4D upgrade route which I was hoping to put off

Re: Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-15 Thread Kirk Brooks via 4D_Tech
at the compatibility settings. Components and plugins would be the next things I'd check. On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 5:21 AM James Knight via 4D_Tech < 4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote: > Does anyone know if 4D 15 will work on Mojave? > -- Kirk Brooks San Francisco, CA ===

Mac OS 10.14 Mojave and 4D 15

2018-10-15 Thread James Knight via 4D_Tech
Hi folks Does anyone know if 4D 15 will work on Mojave? We've just purchased a new Mac Mini with Mojave pre-installed, and our built application crashes on launch. Before I spend hours troubleshooting, would be helpful to know if anyone has 4D v15 working on Mojave at all, and in particular

Re: 4D v17 & macOS Mojave beta

2018-08-24 Thread cswirth via 4D_Tech
I'm running v17 standalone and remote on Mojave with no issues... Scott Wirth -- Sent from: http://4d.1045681.n5.nabble.com/4D-Tech-f1376241.html ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html

4D v17 & macOS Mojave beta

2018-08-22 Thread James Brown via 4D_Tech
Has anyone tried 4D v17.0 client on macOS Mojave? Just curious - I get a -10509 ‘Can’t open database’ runtime error when I try. Thanks, James. ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html

Mojave and v15 / v16

2018-08-09 Thread Paul Lovejoy via 4D_Tech
Hi, Has anyone been able to do any testing with the Mojave beta and v15/v16 in 32 bit mode? I’d appreciate any feedback. Thanks, Paul ** 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html Options