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> For many projects, I’m working with a larger team where the precise size
> of fonts and other stylesheet details are already decided. In this case,
> I’m designing new forms and optimizing some old ones via Windows 10 (for a
> legacy application that looks like it ran
Tim, actually, I’ve nearly always used custom stylesheets…. I’ve never utilized
the scale form feature until recently and only on one form as a test. Since
I’ve never used this, I never knew the history or intent of the feature. I was
just exploring how best to bring this legacy structure into
“Giving it the eye ball…” this cracked me up! :)
Thanks Tim for the detailed response. Using custom style sheets extensively was
my most utilized approach.
Robert
> On Dec 7, 2018, at 3:33 PM, Tim Nevels via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>
> wrote:
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> You determine what looks good by
On Dec 7, 2018, at 3:43 PM, Chip Scheide <4d_o...@pghrepository.org> wrote:
> to me - form scaling means:
> I hit a key (press a button, whatever) and the form enlarges -
> think of Command/Control + on a web page.
> think of the designer form control 50% 100% 200% 400%
>
> I have implemented
to me - form scaling means:
I hit a key (press a button, whatever) and the form enlarges -
think of Command/Control + on a web page.
think of the designer form control 50% 100% 200% 400%
I have implemented this in v13 by using Object Set Font Size(+/-1) on
everything on the form (list forms
On Dec 7, 2018, at 10:32 AM, Robert ListMail wrote:
> I showed a scaled up version of a few forms, during a migration to v17 and
> later I decided to move everything to automatic stylesheets as recommended by
> Keisuke that this is best practices now. So, Jefferey, are you using
> automatic
I have a followup question:
if you can not apply a color to the style sheet then that would mean
manually (programmatically) applying a color to every object on a form
every time the form is displayed. -- A PITA to be sure.
BUT..
once a color is applied via code (Object Set Color, or Object Set
The “Automatic” setting appears to be using Segoe UI 12 as a default. I also
see “Automatic (Main)” which has a default of 16 point. The sweet spot for this
Windows interface might be 13 point font; yet, it’s my understanding that any
font-size over-rides on a particular object drops the
I showed a scaled up version of a few forms, during a migration to v17 and
later I decided to move everything to automatic stylesheets as recommended by
Keisuke that this is best practices now. So, Jefferey, are you using automatic
stylesheets?
What determines the font size of automatic
Yes - referring to the built in style sheet called Automatic. You need to make
a new style sheet that uses the system fonts to get the correct one.
> On Nov 19, 2018, at 9:50 PM, Keisuke Miyako via 4D_Tech
> <4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
>
> are you sure?
>
> just tested, OBJECT Get font on
are you sure?
just tested, OBJECT Get font on an automatic stylesheet object returns
.SF NS Text
as for the search widget, it was released with v12 so the stylesheet is
"Default", not automatic.
but I agree, it's badly designed.
2018/11/19 23:46、Jeffrey Kain via 4D_Tech
The Automatic style sheet on Mac still pick the wrong font on 10.11 and later.
It uses Helvetica Neue instead of San Francisco.
And among other gripes, the search widget from the object library is very out
of date also, style wise. Lucida Grande, sunken rounded edges, etc.
> On Nov 18,
> 2018/11/11 7:43、Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech <4d_tech@lists.4d.com>のメール:
>
> Form Scaling... Is this still a thing? :)
The feature was originally introduced to compensate for the DPI difference (72
on Mac, 96 on Windows).
There is an interesting background story on why the 2 camps decided on
I really like to use “automatic” style sheet for all my forms.
There’s also automatic (additional) which is great for smaller text 11
On Sun, 11 Nov 2018 at 09:43, Robert ListMail via 4D_Tech <
4d_tech@lists.4d.com> wrote:
> For many projects, I’m working with a larger team where the precise
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