i was overly emotional, sorry. i also overlooked that the debate is about
drawterm, a non-plan9 program. doubly sorry.
still, to my taste, to much effort is devoted to things outside the
system... however, i am not an MBA, maybe, it is all right.
wishing a fantastic day,
++pac
i am not an MBA, maybe, it is all right
it's always all right not to be an MBA
it's always all right not to be an MBA
not here ;-)
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote:
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that
accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard.
The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business
for decades, but its message has never been more important
So any more thoughts on whether or not this would be useful?
I have to revise: that I did point to a java sdk and really should have
constrained my contents to something like jquery api instead.
So- why? (why build a website of drawterm)
(I think) I like plan9 as a potential network controller.
The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business
for decades, but its message has never been more important and, or useful
for many. -- Rob Tannen
yes!!
BTW, I hate porting bloatware to clean, compact and efficient Plan 9.
so do i, however, sometimes time (and,
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote:
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that
accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard.
The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business
for decades, but its message has never been more
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On May 18, 2011, at 5:24 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote:
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that
accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard.
The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has
On 05/18/2011 05:56 PM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
On 05/18/2011 05:12 AM, Jacob Todd wrote:
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that
accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard.
The KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) acronym has been popular in business
for
How useful a research could be which is not backed by a business idea?
Who will fund such projects, why and for how long?
you mean a research project like unix or plan 9?
- erik
On May 18, 2011, at 8:24 AM, blstu...@bellsouth.net wrote:
...I'm confused. Why are we using business ideas to constrain what
we are doing with a research system?
Probably good point. But that said did not Lucent try to market Plan 9 beyond
that at some point, or do I have that wrong?
How useful a research could be which is not backed by a business idea?
That's kind of the point I was getting at. Asking how research
is useful isn't asking the most telling question. Research isn't
always about utility; it's about intellectual contribution. Of
course, it's great when
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/17/0242244/Boot-Linux-In-Your-Browse
then how about drawterm in javascript? Serve it over http and access
your CPU server from anywhere that's got a web browser.
russ implemented samterm in js.
- erik
While not exactly the same, http://guacamole.sourceforge.net/ might be
a good starting point for what would need to be done. There are
actually several variations of this around (vnc in javascript). Not
sure which would be the most simple as a starting point.
-eric
On Tue, May
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:38 AM, erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote:
http://linux.slashdot.org/story/11/05/17/0242244/Boot-Linux-In-Your-Browse
then how about drawterm in javascript? Serve it over http and access
your CPU server from anywhere that's got a web browser.
russ
I suggested a simple draw server in HTML5+websockets for a GSoC
project this year. If anyone wants to work on it let me know.
http://www.plan9.bell-labs.com/wiki/plan9/gsoc-2011-ideas/index.html
-Skip
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 12:00 AM, Adrian Tritschler a...@ajft.org wrote:
If this can be done
Folks,
i am very unhappy seeing this kind of discussions here (and, the wasted
potential to do something more useful in my eyes, sorry, but IMHO)... it
resembles me very much the times when Steve Jobbs compromised the ideas of
the NeXTstep, first downgrading it to the OpenStep for Windoze users,
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:23 AM, Peter A. Cejchan tyap...@gmail.com wrote:
Folks,
i am very unhappy seeing this kind of discussions here (and, the wasted
potential to do something more useful in my eyes, sorry, but IMHO)... it
resembles me very much the times when Steve Jobbs compromised the
(kinda off-topic)
Just saw this show up today... QEMU+Linux running under JavaScript on
Chrome/FireFox.
http://bellard.org/jslinux/
-joe
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Joseph Stewart
joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote:
(kinda off-topic)
Just saw this show up today... QEMU+Linux running under JavaScript on
Chrome/FireFox.
http://bellard.org/jslinux/
-joe
It's not really off-topic, since that's the site that the OP's
slashdot
http://bellard.org/jslinux/
That's the link that started this thread. :-)
I think the HTML Canvas and WebSockets would make
drawterm a bit easier now than it was the last time I tried.
The main problem now is that I don't believe it's possible
to grab all three mouse button clicks reliably.
(embarrassed) and didn't read the first post.
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:57 PM, John Floren j...@jfloren.net wrote:
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Joseph Stewart
joseph.stew...@gmail.com wrote:
(kinda off-topic)
Just saw this show up today... QEMU+Linux running under JavaScript on
This article seems to have all the pieces for mouse button management.
http://unixpapa.com/js/mouse.html
- Jason
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Joseph Stewart
joseph.stew...@gmail.comwrote:
(embarrassed) and didn't read the first post.
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 1:57 PM, John Floren
i don't know what compromise you're talking about; anything that can
implement and use 9P is a legitimate component to attach to Plan 9.
browsers are the predominant way that users connect to the Net;
websockets in html5 provide the ability to establish a full duplex tcp
connection. why shouldn't
What the hell? They're not saying, Screw running on hardware, let's
just boot the whole system in Javascript under a browser, they want
to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web browser, because
you can find a Javascript-supporting web browser anywhere (except Plan
9) these days.
Ugh, I have to comment because to my noobness this sounds like an easy
project, and an easy project to over-think. Teach a java app how to draw
boxes like rio, and plug it in. Right?
I would love to use Rio on a touchscreen, unfortunately I need to eat. So if
I get that eating thing figured out
other's have done what you're suggesting:
http://code.google.com/p/styxbrowser/
also drawterm port to iphone was one of last year's successful gsoc projects.
that's not the point though; the point is to have something that runs
natively in the browser. if chrome can run angry birds, why not
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote:
they want to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web
browser, because you can find a Javascript-supporting web browser
anywhere (except Plan 9) these days.
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 12:00:15 AM Adrian Tritschler wrote:
Serve it
JavaScript is not java...
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On May 17, 2011, at 11:46 AM, a z rhoyerb...@gmail.com wrote:
Ugh, I have to comment because to my noobness this sounds like an easy
project, and an easy project to over-think. Teach a java app how to draw
boxes like rio, and plug it in.
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing something that
accesses plan 9 from the web will be less hard.
On May 17, 2011 6:53 PM, errno er...@cox.net wrote:
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 10:31:32 AM John Floren wrote:
they want to let you connect to your Plan 9 system from a web
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 04:40:50 PM Jacob Todd wrote:
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing
something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less
hard.
Correct; but also somewhat ancillary to the general areas
of concern:
Is it really all that often when a Plan 9
On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 4:58 PM, errno er...@cox.net wrote:
On Tuesday, May 17, 2011 04:40:50 PM Jacob Todd wrote:
Writing/porting web stuff to plan 9 will be hard. Writing
something that accesses plan 9 from the web will be less
hard.
Correct; but also somewhat ancillary to the
Hey David, thanks for responding.
The sci-fi you write below is exactly the sort of fiction I'd find
very interesting in 9 space, and corresponds rather closely
to what I premised in a past thread[1].
So, I believe we're speaking the same language; but the picture
you've painted seems
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