Boot process halts almost from the start at message:
Verifying DMI Pool Data
Boot from CD: PBSR...EI
Then nothing! Keyboard not hung. Press any key and it reboots.
This is on an amd athlon xp 2000+ / 1G RAM / 2nd Master = CD-RW, ATA 33
Ideas / clues please. TIA ..
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language for Plan9? C? What languages
have been ported to Plan9?
Where are the best docs? TIA...
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Jacob Todd wrote:
On Jan 13, 2011 9:32 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote:
Hello 9fans ...
I'm _totally_ new to Plan9! Two days ago I had never heard of
it. Yesterday I DLed the LiveCD - now I want to know more.
The closest I've come to such an OS
path, you can download 9vx and try the full Plan 9
environment hosted on your normal OS.
That's great! I have Native Oberon for Linux running the very same
way. Best of both worlds - at a bit of a price though. :) Thanks for
the input.
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, or is there a real danger that
Plan9 has a run-away?
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seen this myself, but i recall this discussion
http://9fans.net/archive/?q=partition+overwritten
Thanks for the heads-up!
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@Gorka Guardiola
@Tassilo Philipp
Thanks for the warnings, and friendly advice :)
I think I'll just use a bare 2nd HDD on the same machine, or a junker
box kicking around.
Do you guys know if Plan9 will boot off a slave HDD?
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in. :) Remember, I've _never_ , EVER, messed
with Plan9. So, it's all new to me.
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), boot(8)
(http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/8/boot) and booting(8)
(http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/8/booting) for details, etc..
Thanks for all the homework! :))
Much appreciated ...
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on a stand-alone box?
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this setup for
experimenting/testing and for demos.
Sounds like _a lot_ of fooling around! I've set up numerous *nix LANs
before, but don't have one at the moment. How much memory would a
machine need to set up all those VMs?
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, David Leimbach wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:38 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote:
Just read:
http://lsub.org/magic/man2html/1/0intro
[quote]
Plan 9 is a distributed computing environment assembled from separate
machines acting as terminals, CPU
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, Skip Tavakkolian wrote:
if the intent is to get a full understanding of what an operational
Plan 9 environment is like, using VMware or Qemu
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wipe the 4G Native Oberon partition, and
put the Plan 9 terminal there. Although this box that I use
multi-boots, why bother installing Plan 9 as a terminal on a dedicated
partition, when I can connect from Linux using `drawterm' or `9vx'.
Thanks for the input!
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for a
Plan 9 server though.
I wouldn't dismiss it entirely. My old Plan9 CPU/auth/file server
at home had a very similar configuration.
Then I'll have to give it a shot. Then go looking for some more recent
hardware! Here we go again ... :D
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was after all, built as a
distributed system. I'll give it a shot on that P-I mentioned in
another post.
But whichever path(s) you take, I hope you'll find Plan9 is a great
system, just as we do.
I'm in trouble already ...
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! Thanks for the link. have you tried gparted? I have it as
a LiveCD. Hose a partition - no probs. Boot the CD; fix it; go for
lunch. :) I'm going to DL TestDisk anyway - you never know!
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think. I'm almost sure that it's supported.
All sounds very encouraging. Addio ...
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
At Thu, 13 Jan 2011 14:37:52 -0700 (MST),
Duke Normandin wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
I think you mentioned in another message that you have a headless box
available; I recommend temporarily hooking that up to a monitor
machines.
Sounds like a plan -- pun intended! Much obliged!
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
On 1/13/2011 7:42 PM, Duke Normandin wrote:
What is Venti again?
Venti is the archival storage for Plan 9. Basically, new files and
changes to files get written to the Fossil file system. If Venti exists,
those changes get written to Venti; Venti
loosely speaking,
storage requirements scale with users, and not with the number
of systems attached. one could boot dozens of cpu servers from
a fs with only 1gb of storage. the distribution takes only 300mb.
I see!
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On Thu, 13 Jan 2011, John Floren wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 8:15 PM, Duke Normandin dukeofp...@ml1.net wrote:
[snip]
What is the minimum HDD capacity required to run an Auth/cpu/fs server
with Venti support?
There's no hard and fast rule, really, but your Fossil partition needs
on the network?
Plan 9 is sufficiently different from mainstream OSes, that it would
be nice to have a diagram available of how all the parts fit together,
along with the different terminology (in some cases) being
used. Anything like that exist?
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arenas and isect if you chose to install venti
but come on.
when the talking takes more time than the doing, it's time
act.
Are you suggesting that I shit or get off the pot! ?
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to as a
nameserver; or another running only httpd, and being called a
webserver. Am I close?
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of an application program's run-time environment,
but some services might (optionally) be given dedicated machines,
such as venti and fossil.
Did I not allude to that when I used the word daemon?
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- great analogy!
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here that are still working great
with no leaky caps. they are all about 12 years old.
(by the way, the motherboard + processor + memory
is free to a good plan 9 home. you pay shipping.)
You would be shipping from where, approx.? How much memory in that
thar thing? :)
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 21:12:37 +0100
hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> my point was that if they weren't pedantic they wouldn't be any
> good
Here's MY point:
https://youtu.be/SoGLU1l7LwY
Short and sweet and to the point. Gimme more ... :)
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 15:16:06 -0800
Bakul Shah wrote:
> You may find
> https://pspodcasting.net/dan/blog/2019/plan9_desktop.html useful.
I do - thanks!
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> shutdown the terminal session, not the server.
Got it!
Is there a not-too-pedantic user manual kicking about? I
mean this like: "Please tell me what time it is; NOT how to make a
watch". :) For the time being anyway. I'm a hacker back as far as
1981. Now I often n
- IMHO.
At the onset, show them how to tell time - NOT how to make a watch!
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hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:
> manuals are always pedantic.
maybe you haven't lived long enough to have stumbled on the good
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Which ISO did you use?
9front-8593.acc504c319a4b4188479cfa602e40cb6851c0528.386.iso
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 12:56:19 -0500
"Frank D. Engel, Jr." wrote:
> Partially to answer an earlier question and partially to
> emphasize just how different Plan 9 is: you "log out" by
> rebooting.
You're kidding right? So it's a single-user/multi-tasking OS?
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different? TIA
BTW - Installing Plan9 is a great project for me right now. -37C
here in western Canada. :O
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> Which ISO did you use?
Hold the phone! Stop the presses!
I'm in! Joy!!
Accepted the defaults once again after doing a Ctrl-D and BOOM!
I've got a term% window
I've got a "cirno" window.
;-D
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the correct timezone:
log in as user:adm
then
cp /adm/timezone/CET to /adm/timezone/local
etc etc
Am RTFM!!! LOL
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o...@eigenstate.org wrote:
> Quoth Duke Normandin :
> > log in as user:adm
>
> expanding that a bit: log in as a
> user in the 'adm' group.
OK - I'm going to take a time-out and go read about how to use this
thing! I see that I'm tryin
or docs for) that too in case you want to continue
> booting through grub.
Got it!
BTW - rebooted and logged in as adm. Got an error msg saying that
it couldn't find something or other ../adm.
How do I log out? ^D like Linux/BSD?
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Eli Cohen wrote:
> yes, but it also has very good networking capabilities
networking is good! +1
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filesystem _was_ on my CD. I want to
install Plan9 onto one of my HDDs.
> 9front install docs are here:
> http://fqa.9front.org/fqa4.html
Ok thx ...
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On Tue, 28 Dec 2021 09:28:52 -0800
Eli Cohen wrote:
> if you're not accustomed to plan 9
Worst than that! I don't know squat about it. Just manage to
install it 10 minutes ago. I know Unix though and that's where I'm
getting hung up.
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Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir wrote:
> 9front wiki has some too, for example:
> http://wiki.9front.org/unix2plan9
Excellent! Just what I needed to get started with the tinkering.
Þakka þér fyrir / tack ...
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BTW, for Plan 9 noob enlightenment, HN ran this article today:
http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/1st_edition/designing_plan_9
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> On Jan 18, 2022, at 3:19 PM, vic.thac...@fastmail.fm wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jan 19, 2022, at 03:54, Antonio Barrones wrote:
> [snip]
>
>> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
>>
>> hello.
>>
>> please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political opinion, but
>> discuss it elsewhere.
>> sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpiler" word when talking
>> about computers :-) :-)
>>
>> thanx, a.b.
I agree.
Fuck you asshole! It’s garbage like you that morphs pleasant venues into
fucking cesspools.
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:38:19AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
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>>>
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> On Jan 24, 2022, at 7:44 AM, Sigrid Solveig Haflínudóttir
> wrote:
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> On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 1:38 PM Duke Normandin wrote:
>>>> On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic wrote:
>>>>
>>>> hello.
>>>>
>>>> please don't put
Wondering the same thing! Good to know - thx.
> On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:01 AM, cinap_len...@felloff.net wrote:
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> sdvirtio handles both block and scsi type devices.
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