Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-24 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier k...@sciops.net wrote: |This is why harmful.cat-v.org is so important, and it's why I don't have These pages contain indeed several of the most stupid things i have read in a very long time. |macrocultures in the bud; otherwise we wind up with POSIX everywhere, and |an entire

Re: [9fans] Adding a new user on 9-Front

2013-12-24 Thread Daode
lu...@proxima.alt.za wrote: | And cheap, energy efficient computers for poor kids, which is | a good thing, | |I have access to a few thousands poor kids, age 0 to 18. Could I |please have some of these cheap, energy efficient computers for |them? I can't help you there -- not from me.

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-23 Thread Daode
Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: |I don't know what console is. I don't see anything at my Plan-9 Shell |(RC) or on the screen in general. Note that Francisco J. Ballesteros has written an excellent book on operating systems [1] that i also should read in total: «Introduction to

Re: [9fans] 9Front network (driver?) issue

2013-12-23 Thread Daode
andrey mirtchovski mirtchov...@gmail.com wrote: |both 9␦Front and 9␦Atom use U+180E, Mongolian Vowel Separator, to |stand between the digit and the letters. it is a zero-length space |signifying the major departure from the original canon. No, no longer -- it has become a control character in

Re: [9fans] mk time-check/slice issue

2013-12-19 Thread Daode
Blake McBride bl...@mcbride.name wrote: |On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 8:55 AM, erik quanstrom quanstro@\ |quanstro.netwrote: | | I was thinking about the problem and actually, at least in all | circumstances I can think of, changing that one operation from = to | would fix the problem. If the

Re: [9fans] ca.pem

2013-12-03 Thread Daode
Skip Tavakkolian skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com wrote: |root CA certificates. David's reply jogged my memory; if i recall, i cat'ed |/etc/ssl/certs/*.pem of the ubuntu box and it was so i could go get. I've not really followed it but there was a thread on OpenSSL-users which mentioned an issue

Re: [9fans] [sources] applied patch: /n/atom/patch/applied/termrcnodhcp

2013-10-15 Thread Daode
Hello, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: |email | quans...@quanstro.net |readme | don't dhcp by default. it looks like a hang. [.] |+ #if(! test -e /net/ipifc/0/ctl || ~ 127.0.0.1 `{cat /net/ipifc/0/local}) |+ # ip/ipconfig /dev/null [2=1] [.] after looking into the

Re: [9fans] [sources] applied patch: /n/atom/patch/applied/termrcnodhcp

2013-10-15 Thread Daode
hmm, i'm braindead. And that made it especially hard to deal with ipconfig(8): by default, ipconfig exits after trying DHCP for 15 seconds with no answer --steffen ---BeginMessage--- Hello, erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: |email | quans...@quanstro.net |readme | don't

Re: [9fans] [sources] applied patch: /n/atom/patch/applied/termrcnodhcp

2013-10-15 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom quans...@labs.coraid.com wrote: |- 9fans | |thanks for the interest! no, i'm just totally brain dead.

Re: [9fans] VMware and 9atom

2013-10-10 Thread Daode
Richard Miller 9f...@hamnavoe.com wrote: | If you want to run Plan 9 on VirtualBox, you have to use either | the 4.1 branch (for example 4.1.26) or 4.2.14 and later. | |I can confirm that standard Plan 9 runs on virtualbox 4.2.18 on MacOSX |(tried it just now) I have (had) no issue(s) with

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-28 Thread Daode
Ingo Krabbe ikrabbe@gmail.com wrote: |Hey, | |I found a quite strange effect with cifs (plan9 bell labs edition). \ |I use cifs to mount werc installations from p9p linux servers. \ |Cifs is needed here, as the virtual hosted machine does not \ |support nfs. Maybe I should switch to

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-28 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: | cifs is Windows, i think. | If this is the case, then you may run into the issue of implicit | filenames. Search «aux tale», or browse | heirloom.sourceforge.net/mailx_aux_c.html. | |as entertaining as this is, is isn't true for dos. there

Re: [9fans] cifs fails on nodes named aux

2013-08-28 Thread Daode
dexen deVries dexen.devr...@gmail.com wrote: |On Wednesday 28 of August 2013 10:26:01 Erik Quanstrom wrote: | the claim that the devices are in the directories and thus the file system | is still false. even if explorer has some unnecessary code. and plan 9 is | not immune from unnecessary

[9fans] How to mount 9atom

2013-08-27 Thread Daode
Jens Staal wrote: How can i mount 9atom? erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: |On Wed Jul 3 12:35:16 EDT 2013, quans...@quanstro.net wrote: |if you're interested in the details on patches applied to 9atom | |echo subscribe | mail sources-ow...@9atom.org | |cf. mlmgr(8)

Re: [9fans] off topic: full unicode support isn't easy

2013-07-24 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: |On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 05:59:32AM +0300, Aharon Robbins wrote: | FYI | | Creative usernames and Spotify account hijacking | http://labs.spotify.com/2013/06/18/creative-usernames/ | | Arnold | |Seems the thrust of this article is more like writing

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-18 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: |if you have plan 9, or 9p working (say on linux or osx), then you can Hello! I now have a running 9atom system!! :-)) |9fs 9atom. for plan 9 the incantation would be I've spend the last two weeks adding command line editing to the mailer i

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: | But then, unfortunately, there were quite some copy errors which | caused the installation to fail. | | /n/[newfs - dist]/68020/lib/{ape,libc.a} | /n/[newfs - dist]/alpha/lib/{ape,libc.a} |

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
Carl Phillips cphill...@setcc.com wrote: |On 08/07/13 13:06, Steffen Daode Nurpmeso wrote: | Now i only fail to get it working in VirtualBox; both of 4.2.14 | (June 21th, 86644) and 4.2.16 (86992) hang after init: starting | /bin/rc with 100% CPU time (Live CD: ~28%). I hope i find some

Re: [9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files [solved]

2013-07-08 Thread Daode
Yapadapad! While biking i became enlightened. Just disabled the network and it boots (VirtualBox 4.2.16, OS X). It seems the system hangs around trying to get some IP address via DHCP?? I don't know why it does so long (minutes) and requires such a lot of CPU time (though of the VM) doing

[9fans] 9atom installation fails due to missing files

2013-07-06 Thread Daode
Hello, today i finally made it to one of the things i was looking forward to, installing 9atom. It was a truly smooth experience. (Some `cannot set [gu]id on xy' messages, mostly for a `bootes' user in /usr and /cron, and also for secstore{,/store,/who}.) But then, unfortunately, there were

Re: [9fans] Character case mappings

2013-06-25 Thread Daode
erik quanstrom quans...@quanstro.net wrote: | uuh, ok, 9atom seems to have seen a lot of progress compared to | what i have yet looked at. | |just a few tables. and a bit of time spent applying them. ;-) |if you have plan 9 installed and can | | nflag=-n srv $nflag -q

[9fans] Character case mappings

2013-06-24 Thread Daode
'Thing is; i'm writing a Unicode aware library for ISO C99 aware environments (*earliest* alpha state) and at the moment i use binary searches (i only have display-widths and simple case mappings right now). For combined upper/lower case mappings i do end up with static struct _casemap {

Re: [9fans] ANTS: Better in every single way than standard plan 9. Stop using p9p.

2013-03-16 Thread Daode
I can't comment on the software. |THAT EASY Bhutan may be worth thinking of. |Ben Kidwell |mycroftiv --steffen

Re: [9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-14 Thread Daode
Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: | Does QEMU run on Mac OS X at all? | |Sure. I never got it compiled; i tried again and failed even after light configure hacking. But really, i'm happy with VirtualBox and even got Plan9 installed in the meanwhile; first made the big too disk (DOS

[9fans] 9front Acme unresponsive to key presses

2013-03-14 Thread Daode
Kurt H Maier kh...@intma.in wrote: |I don't think hiro was criticizing 9front as much as the fact that 9fans |seems to discuss p9p and vbox on osx more than any other software. I also installed 9front in the meanwhile (python, pfff), and learned that the (broken) hostname setup can be skipped

[9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-13 Thread Daode
Hello, VirtualBox 4.2.6 on Mac OS X does *not* work with plan9.iso: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data \ 'PLAN 9 - DEC 8 2012 04:00 ' Memory ranges: 128 - 1024 MB. Chipset: PII3X with/out I/O APIC; ICH9. With/out PAE/NX. With/out hw-virt-acceleration. Video memory: 8 - 128 MB with/out 3D

[9fans] Yes, 4.1.24 works (Was: Re: Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative))

2013-03-13 Thread Daode
David du Colombier 0in...@gmail.com wrote: | Hello, | VirtualBox 4.2.6 on Mac OS X does *not* work with | |As said earlier, Plan 9 is already known not to work |in VirtualBox 4.2. You should try VirtualBox 4.1. Indeed, and i reinstalled 4.1.24 in favour of 4.2.6 and booted the live ISO just

Re: [9fans] Solicited VirtualBox submission (negative)

2013-03-13 Thread Daode
Aram Hăvărneanu ara...@mgk.ro wrote: |No, really. You should try QEMU. I understand that newcomers might be |tempted to use VirtualBox because it worked well for them in the past, |but I see zero reason for us to recommend anything but QEMU while |actively discouraging VirtualBox. Does QEMU