Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
On 10/10/12 2:07 AM, Alexander Surkov wrote: Hi, Jamie. Answering inline. 5) Document that copyText, cutText, and pasteText are deprecated. Can you please refresh me on it? The reason specified is This function is available via the application's GUI. but it seems it can be applied to the

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
On 2/4/13 5:13 PM, Pete Brunet wrote: Hi Alex, I am going to try to get some momentum going on this again... On 9/23/12 11:52 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: Hi, Pete. Here's my two cents. 1) It makes sense to allow IAccessible2_2::attribute to take sequence of attribute names like

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
On 10/10/12 1:29 AM, James Teh wrote: Hi all, Sorry for taking so long. Here is my feedback: Accessible2.idl: IAccessible2 has been removed from the Interfaces section. It should still be included. (I see Pete has already acknowledged this.) I'm not sure it makes sense to say the older

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Hi Pete, The reason for the editing functions was to allow a voice reco solution to select text, edit it, and perform clipboard operations for the mobility impaired. It is additional work to have a voice reco solution have to go through the additional work of doing the additional keyboard

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Alexander Surkov
Hi, Pete. It looks good. Perhaps I'd change In some cases an application's accessible tree is such that an object can have a logical parent which is not its parent in the tree of accessibles. to ... such that objects can be in a logical parent-child relationship which is different from hierarchy

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] Plea for a new function

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Brett, Is this still an issue for you? We're very near the end of discussions for IA2 1.3 and wanted to see if more discussion is needed on this issue. -Pete On 11/26/12 7:03 PM, James Teh wrote: On 27/11/2012 8:02 AM, Brett Lewis wrote: I am getting the Iaccessible tree. I then find that

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Pete, Is there a plan to update AccProbe for the new interfaces? Alex: I am concerned about FF implementing this stuff in the middle of Candidate Recommendation phase. That would set everything back and there are already more bugs than I would like to see in FF 21 which need to be addressed.

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
On 2/4/13 8:52 PM, Alexander Surkov wrote: Hi, Pete. It looks good. Perhaps I'd change In some cases an application's accessible tree is such that an object can have a logical parent which is not its parent in the tree of accessibles. to ... such that objects can be in a logical parent-child

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
That creates a rather significant problem. Rich Rich Schwerdtfeger From: Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com To: Richard Schwerdtfeger/Austin/IBM@IBMUS, Cc: IA2 List Accessibility-ia2@lists.linuxfoundation.org, accessibility-ia2-boun...@lists.linuxfoundation.org, Alexander

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
Hi Rich, At this point, since we couldn't find consensus and since this release was supposed to done last Fall and since I was informed that noone has implemented or shown a need for the three clipboard operations, I'm inclined to not hold up the release any further and handle this in a follow-on

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed? Even if Nuance has not implemented it for say FF has someone approached them? We can' t just be supporting vision impairments. Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2013, at 9:35 PM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote: Hi Rich, At

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Whe are relations deprecated? They are used extensively in both FF, Chrome, and Symphony. Rich Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2013, at 8:32 PM, Pete Brunet p...@a11ysoft.com wrote: On 10/10/12 1:29 AM, James Teh wrote: Hi all, Sorry for taking so long. Here is my feedback:

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
On 2/4/13 4:56 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Did you check with Nuance? What appends if replacetext is removed? If you have a contact at Nuance please ask them to join the list. Only the clipboard methods are deprecated, which bascially means don't use the cut/copy/paste methods until the

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
It appears the relations were moved to the new ia22 interface. Is that why you are deprecating the relations interface? Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger sch...@us.ibm.com wrote: Whe are relations deprecated? They are used extensively in both FF, Chrome,

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Richard Schwerdtfeger
Partially. So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are handled by the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion point (collapsed selection). What is the concern about clipboard functionality? Rich Sent from my iPad On Feb 4, 2013, at 10:18 PM, Pete Brunet

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
The methods are replaced with IAccessible2_2::relationTargetsOfType. One of today's edits was to add text to the doxygen commentary pointing this out. Pete On 2/4/13 5:14 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: It appears the relations were moved to the new ia22 interface. Is that why you are

Re: [Accessibility-ia2] IA2 1.3 ready for review

2013-02-04 Thread Pete Brunet
On 2/4/13 5:20 PM, Richard Schwerdtfeger wrote: Partially. So, cut, copy copy selected text to the clipboard. The details are handled by the rouser. Paste pasts to selected text or the insertion point (collapsed selection). What is the concern about clipboard functionality? I'll have to dig