On 1/22/15, Dinesh Kaushal dkaus...@sapient.com wrote:
The space bar comes very handy when we are typing on the Braille display. We
can type in a computer or a mobile with the help of Braille keyboard. When
you are typing on a Braille keyboard, you wouldn't want to go to your
computer just to
Sorry!
Hello!
Talk about today's braille reading.
On 1/21/15, ram contact.ramkris...@gmail.com wrote:
I am sorry dear modarator that this topic was actually closed. I regret
sending my letter after the topic was closed. I did not note the closure.
- Original Message -
From: sanjay
Yes! That is braille note taker.
Dinesh Sir, can you please explain the functions of all the keys on
braille display? Especially, when we can use space in computer, then,
why there is a space bar key on braille display?
Sorry if my question seems irrelevant.
Regards,
Neelima
On 1/21/15,
Being Braille interface developer for an assistive technology company, I got to
use around 8 Braille devices.
There are 2 types of devices that are used to work with Braille.
One is known as Braille Display or Braille Line or Braille Panel. This device
can connect with computer via USB or can
I read books printed in 1980's when there were no computerized Braile
Presses in India. But they were perfectly proofread and full of error free
from cover to cover. I also read some English books printed in US in 1940's
and 60-s. They were also perfectly proofread.
-Original
The space bar comes very handy when we are typing on the Braille display. We
can type in a computer or a mobile with the help of Braille keyboard. When you
are typing on a Braille keyboard, you wouldn't want to go to your computer just
to press space. Space bar is also used as a modifier key
I am sorry dear modarator that this topic was actually closed. I regret
sending my letter after the topic was closed. I did not note the closure.
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From: sanjay sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in
To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility
Yes, there are some devices which can display one or two lines at a time.
These devices are very handy and also are very easy to use.
There are six keys which can be used to key in the text input like we type
in brailler.
There is no need of papers if such devices can be made available for the
Hi,
Those devices are called refreshable Braille displays. I haven't much
knowledge about them, but they are very expensive, I think a lakh
rupees? I may be absolutely wrong, but thats what I have heard.
Search the very recent AI archives for information on the development
of a low cost Braille
No no, that is different.
Its name is something like note taker.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Bhavya shah
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:09 PM
To: neelima24su...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
Hi Avinash! I didn't say anything about your letter. I said about
that letter, which Mr. Ramakrishnan had posted, after closing this
thread. Topic is very intresting, so actually it should not closed.
Yes! absolutely ! none can reject, at least, those, who had learn
braille from their childhood,
No. there are not using outdated machines, but the books are not well
proofread.
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Neelima Surve
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:01 PM
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing
No. You cannot say like that, I know, many times it happend, that, we
get so many increased, or decreased dots on one paper, , when we
complain about it to them, they simply say, that, it happends just
because of machine, means, printer. Some small magzines are not going
for proof,those just come
All
I don't think, he is presently on the list.
Therefore, you will have to write to him directly.
Let us close this thread for now.
Harish Kotian
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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of
Aarthi Burthony
Sent: 20 January 2015
I am posting the letter written to Mr. Javed Abidi on the issue relating to
Braille.
Shri Javed Abidi
Director
National Centre for Promotion of Employment for Disabled People (NCPEDP) in
India
A -77, South Extension Part II
New Delhi - 110 049
Dear Shri Abidi,
I am indeed surprised
Sorry for replying on closed topic.
Don't worry avinash! we need not to wait for his explainations, which
we will never get, , although we'll get, it will hopefully illogical
only, so what , how can we expect from this kind of so called
activest person.
Letter is nice. Sorry for showing
Hi Nilima
I didn't send any letter to Mr Abidi because my comments are forwarded
to him by others that's enough. His irresponssible comment about
Braille and adequate responses by organisations working in the blind
sector should awaken him for not repeating such blunders in future.
On 1/21/15,
Dear Ram,
Thanks.
this is a good job as a head of the big organization of the blind.
With warm regards,
Praful Vyas,
Hon. Secretary,
Andhjan Kalyan Trust,
Amba wadi, Junagadh road,
Dhoraji 360410, District Rajkot, Gujarat, India.
Phone : +912824223502
Mobile : +919428261878
E-mail :
Our friends have forwarded the thread discussion to Mr. Abidi. Our
NGO friends have written to him asking for a public apology. AICB has
written to the newspaper to refrain from posting such comments in
future. But what if none of these yields any result? What about the
impression created
Yes, even I used to believe that one must learn Braille at least during primary
school, but many children who are tech savvy are proving that it is not
necessary. Adults talking about the need for blind children without knowing
their perspective is similar to sighted people talking about the
Hi, friends, let me theorised the aBidi statement about braille.
according disability studies, disabled people are treated as less
capable and weaker section in the society. after the progress of
medical standard the disabled people are defined as deficit and
holder of imperfect body and the
The importance of braille for visually impaired persons is just like
printed letters for sighted persons, for visually impaire children
while starting school the braille is must without braille knowledge
one cannot improve the language thoroughly to know the spelling of any
word braille is must
On 1/20/15, Poonam poonam...@gmail.com wrote:
I entirely agree with ms. sachu ramalingam.
On 1/20/15, sachu ramalingam sachuramalinga...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
I completely agree that Mr. Abedi ought to tender an unequivocal
public
apology to the visually impaired community.
It is
Dear All,
I completely agree that Mr. Abedi ought to tender an unequivocal public
apology to the visually impaired community.
It is aso equally important for the pionner to apologise for
publishing a statement from a person who has nothing what so ever with
the Braille or visual
I entirely agree with ms. sachu ramalingam.
On 1/20/15, sachu ramalingam sachuramalinga...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear All,
I completely agree that Mr. Abedi ought to tender an unequivocal public
apology to the visually impaired community.
It is aso equally important for the pionner to
dear all,
on behalf of radio udaan we also strongly condemn this statements of
Javed Abidi.
On 1/19/15, avinash shahi shahi88avin...@gmail.com wrote:
I've forwarded the mail to Mr Abidi
Dear Javed Abidi please see the conversation/thread and it would be
great if you justify your claim or offer
I've forwarded the mail to Mr Abidi
Dear Javed Abidi please see the conversation/thread and it would be
great if you justify your claim or offer an apology to the blind
community.
On 1/19/15, AICB aicbdelhi.110...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear friends,
On behalf of All India Confederation of the
Dear friends,
On behalf of All India Confederation of the Blind, we condemn in the
strongest of expressions, the statement quoted to have been made by
Mr. Javed Abidi about the relevance of Braille in the context of
Government’s initiatives to modernize Braille presses in the country.
The
Hi Poonam
I guess very few blind people read Pioneer hence Mr Abidi thought he
would sail through as was the case in the past prior to JAWS and other
screen reading softwares. he often claims that he is in the Disability
sector for more than two decades and sadly his specialisation in
Braille is
Dear friends,
the
Statement given by Javed Abidi with reference to Braille as an out
dated concept is highly condemnable. A person who has never used
Braille method in any face of his life has no rright to
underestimate or give derogatory statement on Braille that to in a
leading magazine
Firstly, we cannot expect a five year old kid to operate daisy player by
him/herself. Some can do others cannot.
Secondly, listening skills at the age of five are not much developed. So the
kid is not going to understand all of what is taped.
Thirdly, he/she is more prone to spelling difficulties.
Dear Poonam,
I always like your interventions in access india.
But I do not know personally.
I hope we will meat some time.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Poonam
Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 12:28 PM
To: AccessIndia: a
Re: [AI] Centre no more blind to visually impaired, funds books in BrailleIf
govt sets up new braille presses under its control and modernises govt-owned
braille presses, its definitely futile for the very reasons that such printing
presses eat away the funds allocated for printing on
Braille and the blind are inseparable from each other. This fact
should be known to few handful tech savvy blind users. Around 70 %
blind folks do resides in rural areas and the circumstances given
where electricity is must for electronic gajets, Braille scripts comes
very handy and effective tool
Hi all,
Actually it is the greatest tragedy of the disabled right movement
that it has now slipped in the hands of those who can not think beyond
ramps or lifts. More than a script Braille is a tactile way of
approaching and experiencing the world. Those who do not require it
much can not
I do not think Braille is outdated as Mr Abidi quoted claiming in the article
Better, those who have never ever used the fully developed script, and
lack will-power to learn; refrain from spreading rumour about Braille
through media. This script is still relevant and needs to be
preserved and
Braille is the essential tool for us.
It is a substitute for writing with pen and pencil.
As a sighted person cannot stop using basic writing tools like pen and
pencil, in the same way, Braille is the basic reading and writing system for
us.
Braille cannot be compared to any of the present
I agree with both of you. Apart from Braile books, our government should
encourage the development of affordable Braile displays which may
encourage pupils to learn Braile.
Here is a startling news for those who believe Braile is an outdated stuff.
Forget Braile, typewriters which are outdated
That would be a good initiative.
-Original Message-
From: sanjay [mailto:sanjaylpra...@yahoo.co.in]
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 5:58 PM
To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing
accessibility and issues concerning the disabled.'
Subject: RE: [AI] Centre no
I have been advocating for a braille noticeboard in my college for a long time.
There is a large number of visually impaired students in the college,
and in most of the cases they do not get to take part in various
events taking place in and around the college just because the notices
are pasted
Dear Mittal Sir
It is really very very surprising that there are no braille reading and
writing standards yet for teachers. I believe any person desiring to be
teacher of a visually challenged must read and write with high efficiency.
I request one and all to request universities, colleges,
I fully agree with you Avinashji. I, that's why always support the
initiatives of NIVH, AICB and NFB in the efforts of promoting Braille. As
teacher-education in the area of Special Education, I always emphasise on
learning Braille and other special skills by teacher trainees aspiring to
become
Hi,
I can imagine some situations where the Braille script would be more
advantageous than assistive technology, but at this age, I haven't
required Braille. I won't argue that Braille has 'no' relevance in the
present day, because I feel that it may have some, but I am unclear of
the following
The braille is not all about spellings or reading speeds.
When one goes through the books of science and mathemetics at the senior
secondary levels or even at the secondary levels, Reading applications/Audio
books prove to be of little use.
Secondly, when you are addressing an audience, your
I also appreciate the government's initiative to set up new Braille presses
and modernise existing ones through NIVH. Let us hope that we shall get more
Braille books in future. A serious problem is that we get hardly anything in
Braille after school, particularly in Indian languages. I want to
Though I am a senior manager in the bank, I still use Braille pocket frame
to take down my notes in Braille inspite of having other resources and
assistants to help me.
I encourage Braille every year through conduct of Braille competitions to
visually challenged and have purchased a Braille
braille outdated i've seldom heard such, well, let me stop myself
from giving my feelings a word,. anyway, there is no substitute of
braille. i do use technology much and often. i am a strong supporter
of advanced technology but having said that, holding a braille book in
hand and gliding my
If one of you can volunteer, the purpose wil be served.
-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Avichal Bhatnagar
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 9:18 PM
To: vedprakash.sha...@gmail.com; AccessIndia: a list for discussing
first, my thanks to avinash for sharing this piece of information. it
would indeed be better if he also takes the pain to download the
article and pastes them in his mails instead of only giving the links.
javed abidi's shocking remarks about braille being an outdated concept
is a classic case of
Hi,
I'd like to reply to the below quoted text:
'besides, braille, in adition to improving the sense of spellings of
blind persons also gives them a sense of connectedness and intimacy
with the book or any other reading material. given a choice where only
one out of two options between audio
ofcourse, it is a good initiative, but we the disabled people always
think in long term perspective and be carefull that this demand is
not going to segregate us from the others. therefore, in my opinion,
there is need to demand online noticeboard, including mobile messages.
that would long
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