Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

[manohar vaswani]

hi shireen. the solutions suggested by you are really useful and I
have tried some of them. they really work

On 3/2/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
> well i did make clear, right in the beginning, that these pointers
> were in no way a counter to what Payal went through. my mail was a
> response to Avinash's invitation to initiate a much needed discussion
> on the issue. only when u start the discussion with the most basic
> ideas do people have the motivation to pipe in and take it forward.
> until then, such issues seem to affect no1 till they face the music
> themselves. just as is happening now.
>
>
> On 3/2/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
>> Completely agree, This is one of its kind situation where none of your
>> theories of being assertive comes to your rescue.
>>
>> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>>> and, Manish, the site is definitely inaccessible to leave a comment at.
>>> i tried responding to a comment left there but the reply link does not
>>> bring up an edit box or a prompt to sign in or anything of the ssort.
>>>
>>> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
 all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
 mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
 most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
 definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
 many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
 maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
 the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
 the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
 main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
 i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
 definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.

 On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
> since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
> a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
> Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
> counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
> of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
> which u all may already be aware of.
> 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
> social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
> members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
> during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
> ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
> spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
> often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
> option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
> 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
> part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
> in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
> of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
> enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
> a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
> possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
> feasible.
> 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
> by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
> something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
> respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
> dessert yet?
> 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
> then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
> hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
> this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
> chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
> end of that particular conversation.
> of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
> to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
> of the group.
> 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
> for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
> up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
> always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.
>
> 7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
> arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
> throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
> they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ 

Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

[Shireen Irani]

well i did make clear, right in the beginning, that these pointers
were in no way a counter to what Payal went through. my mail was a
response to Avinash's invitation to initiate a much needed discussion
on the issue. only when u start the discussion with the most basic
ideas do people have the motivation to pipe in and take it forward.
until then, such issues seem to affect no1 till they face the music
themselves. just as is happening now.


On 3/2/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Completely agree, This is one of its kind situation where none of your
> theories of being assertive comes to your rescue.
>
> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>> and, Manish, the site is definitely inaccessible to leave a comment at.
>> i tried responding to a comment left there but the reply link does not
>> bring up an edit box or a prompt to sign in or anything of the ssort.
>>
>> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>>> all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
>>> mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
>>> most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
>>> definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
>>> many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
>>> maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
>>> the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
>>> the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
>>> main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
>>> i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
>>> definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.
>>>
>>> On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
 since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
 a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
 Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
 counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
 of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
 which u all may already be aware of.
 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
 social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
 members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
 during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
 ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
 spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
 often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
 option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
 part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
 in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
 of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
 enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
 a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
 possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
 feasible.
 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
 by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
 something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
 respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
 dessert yet?
 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
 then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
 hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
 this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
 chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
 end of that particular conversation.
 of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
 to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
 of the group.
 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
 for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
 up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
 always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.

 7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
 arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
 throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
 they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
 with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
 the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
 ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
 interact  with us. 

Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

[Parimala Bhat]

unable to watch
I  did click on the link but somehow
On 2/26/17, Nirmal Verma  wrote:
> This video has been on social media and elsewhere for two years. We haven't
> heard anything after this.
>
> Nirmal
>
> On 26 Feb 2017 18:54, "harish kotian"  wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>> Watch this incredible video.
>>
>> I don't have the source of this though:
>>
>>
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZUkidZ0Lhw5kRiSTYXem4yd34kByp
>> Q4AJk
>>
>> Harish Kotian
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Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

[George Abraham]

Can some one share with me Kartik Sawhney's mail ID please!

Thanks,

George

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Hi Kartik

I would tend to agree. Actually, if you break down the video, most of the
technology is already put in a products. Maybe, not in one solution. OCR,
paper orientation, face recognition, object recognition, IBm, had already
demonstrated mood recognition. What extra I found was probably age
guessing. Sure, AI could also be used for that. Although, I don't consider
it to be a huge useful input.

I would not consider the demo to be a pie in the sky.

According to me, net connectivity would be required for that as the
processing would take place in the cloud. These days, this no impediment.

Harish Kotian

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Subject: Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

Let's just say you will be hearing soon.

On 2/26/17, Nirmal Verma  wrote:
> This video has been on social media and elsewhere for two years. We 
> haven't heard anything after this.
>
> Nirmal
>
> On 26 Feb 2017 18:54, "harish kotian"  wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>> Watch this incredible video.
>>
>> I don't have the source of this though:
>>
>>
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZUkidZ0Lhw5kRiSTYXem4yd34kBy
>> p
>> Q4AJk
>>
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Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

[Kotian, H P]

Hi Kartik

I would tend to agree. Actually, if you break down the video, most of the 
technology is already put in a products. Maybe, not in one solution. OCR, paper 
orientation, face recognition, object recognition, IBm, had already 
demonstrated mood recognition. What extra I found was probably age guessing. 
Sure, AI could also be used for that. Although, I don't consider it to be a 
huge useful input.

I would not consider the demo to be a pie in the sky.

According to me, net connectivity would be required for that as the processing 
would take place in the cloud. These days, this no impediment.

Harish Kotian

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Subject: Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

Let's just say you will be hearing soon.

On 2/26/17, Nirmal Verma  wrote:
> This video has been on social media and elsewhere for two years. We 
> haven't heard anything after this.
>
> Nirmal
>
> On 26 Feb 2017 18:54, "harish kotian"  wrote:
>
>> All
>>
>> Watch this incredible video.
>>
>> I don't have the source of this though:
>>
>>
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZUkidZ0Lhw5kRiSTYXem4yd34kBy
>> p
>> Q4AJk
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[AI] Fwd: Freedom Scientific Introduces Windows® 10 ElBraille Notetaker!

[Amar Jain]

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> 
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> 
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> 
> Freedom Scientific® today introduced ElBraille, running Microsoft Windows® 10 
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> blind and the logical next step in notetaker development. The ElBraille-14 
> and ElBraille-40 use JAWS® 18 to provide speech and braille output and JAWS' 
> BrailleIn feature to allow complete control of the ElBraille computer from 
> the Perkins-style, braille keyboard. The Windows ® operating environment is 
> the standard in education and professional settings. Run Windows applications 
> such as the Microsoft Office suite or Adobe Reader for complete access to all 
> mainstream document and file types. Use accessibility applications and 
> accessories such as OpenBook® (printed text to speech and braille software) 
> with the PEARL® Camera to immediately read classroom texts or meeting and 
> lecture handouts.
> 
> Running the latest Windows operating system on an Intel Atom quad core 
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> either the Focus 14 or 40 Blue Braille Display, and JAWS 18, the ElBraille is 
> the logical choice for anyone who wants to raise notetaking and portable, 
> accessible computing to the highest level.
> "It makes sense to use a device which completely supports mainstream 
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> Brad Davis, Vice President of Hardware Product Management at Freedom 
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> Brad Davis.
> 
> The ElBraille-14 is scheduled to go on sale in the US and Canada in the 
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> 
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[AI] Fwd: You have a message about Logo di NvApple’s petition.

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Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

[Ajay Minocha]

On the same time, These situations make you trust yourself even more
because You've already seen the worst.

On 3/2/17, Ajay Minocha  wrote:
> Completely agree, This is one of its kind situation where none of your
> theories of being assertive comes to your rescue.
>
> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>> and, Manish, the site is definitely inaccessible to leave a comment at.
>> i tried responding to a comment left there but the reply link does not
>> bring up an edit box or a prompt to sign in or anything of the ssort.
>>
>> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>>> all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
>>> mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
>>> most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
>>> definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
>>> many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
>>> maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
>>> the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
>>> the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
>>> main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
>>> i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
>>> definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.
>>>
>>> On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
 since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
 a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
 Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
 counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
 of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
 which u all may already be aware of.
 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
 social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
 members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
 during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
 ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
 spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
 often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
 option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
 part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
 in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
 of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
 enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
 a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
 possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
 feasible.
 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
 by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
 something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
 respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
 dessert yet?
 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
 then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
 hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
 this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
 chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
 end of that particular conversation.
 of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
 to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
 of the group.
 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
 for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
 up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
 always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.

 7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
 arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
 throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
 they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
 with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
 the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
 ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
 interact  with us. sadly, people haven't reached that level of
 sensibility yet, for them to not feel awkward around us. i in fact was
 reading about this just this morning. don't remember where. that
 children usually never find it difficult to come forward and initiate
 an interaction with us. it is the adults. who start building these

Re: [AI] Today on the Sexuality and Disability blog

[Ajay Minocha]

Completely agree, This is one of its kind situation where none of your
theories of being assertive comes to your rescue.

On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
> and, Manish, the site is definitely inaccessible to leave a comment at.
> i tried responding to a comment left there but the reply link does not
> bring up an edit box or a prompt to sign in or anything of the ssort.
>
> On 3/1/17, Payal Kapoor  wrote:
>> all your points make sense Shireen, when in a situation you've
>> mentioned. this specific incident mentioned here was not conducive to
>> most of what you've suggested. yes, in other situations they could
>> definitely be adopted, but when in the situation  i've mentioned, not
>> many have the time or inclination to see much beyond themselves. or
>> maybe i was dealing with a particularly reticent group.
>> the dynamic changes when in a group. why, i am still to understand.
>> the getting up from the seat is something a lot of us do i think. my
>> main concern here is the absence of initiative to even try.
>> i get the absence of eye contact bit being a problem, but there are
>> definitely other ways to combat that i'm sure.
>>
>> On 2/28/17, Shireen Irani  wrote:
>>> since Avinash has invited a discussion on this, here are my 2 bits on
>>> a few possible, but not necessarily optimal, solutions: of course what
>>> Payal went through is very real, and these tips are not in any way, a
>>> counter to her experience. these are just a few pointers off the top
>>> of my head that may help some1 in a particular situation, , a lot of
>>> which u all may already be aware of.
>>> 1. if i know that a particular person is going to be in the same
>>> social gathering as myself, whether from work, friends, or family
>>> members, i'd ask them a day in advance, if they'd be ok to be with me
>>> during that gathering, and accompany me during meals, etc. if i can
>>> ask more than 1 person, nothing like it. i could even divide the time,
>>> spend it half with 1 accompanist, and the other half with the other.
>>> often when the accompanist realises that he/she was not the only
>>> option, they are more eager/ willing to accompany.
>>> 2. if i'm on the same table with a group of people, and if every1 is
>>> part of a single conversation, then i too will proactively participate
>>> in that conversation, even if i am not asked something directly. i'd
>>> of course hope that i say something remotely sensible/ interesting
>>> enough for people to take notice of me, and realise that here is also
>>> a person at the table, equally part of the group. its not always
>>> possible, but it is just 1, among many strategies to use when
>>> feasible.
>>> 3. sometimes, i can be the initiator of a conversation at the table.
>>> by making some general statement about the food, or the function,
>>> something mostly positive, to which other people may be likely to
>>> respond. e.g. this biryani is really awesome! or, has any1 tried the
>>> dessert yet?
>>> 4. if i know that a particular person is sitting somewhere near me,
>>> then i can call out to her and start off a conversation for every1 to
>>> hear. e.g. Payal, i read your latest blog. it was wonderfully written!
>>> this is surely a good conversation starter, and there's very little
>>> chance that people will ignore me after that. at least not till the
>>> end of that particular conversation.
>>> of course, people sitting immediately next to me would be the simplest
>>> to start chatting to, but those conversations may not reach the rest
>>> of the group.
>>> 6. this last 1 may not be very appealing to many, but it has worked
>>> for me. if i want something and there's no1 around to call, i just get
>>> up off the chair and start walking towards nowhere. this is almost
>>> always likely for some1 to notice me and offer to help. smile.
>>>
>>> 7. i could also inform the main organiser/ host of the event, to
>>> arrange for some1 to be with me during the program and accompany me
>>> throughout. i think that often its not that people don't want to help.
>>> they just avoid it because they don't know how to initiate/ interact
>>> with the likes of us. in such cases, and from all the above points,
>>> the main thing to take home is that for better for worse, we are the
>>> ones who need to give them that slight nudge/ push, to engage/
>>> interact  with us. sadly, people haven't reached that level of
>>> sensibility yet, for them to not feel awkward around us. i in fact was
>>> reading about this just this morning. don't remember where. that
>>> children usually never find it difficult to come forward and initiate
>>> an interaction with us. it is the adults. who start building these
>>> walls as they become less sure of their own selves. and thereby, less
>>> sure of the "others". in quotation marks. so as long as we're the
>>> first to extend a hand, we can hope that we've done our bit and that
>>> the ball is no longer in 

Re: [AI] Kindle books and their accessibility/convertibility

[sadaf khan]

thanks a lot,
can you please tell more about the DRM remover pluggin? like, suggest
one as well as how to use it?
thanks in anticipation

On 2/26/17, Ram Agarwal  wrote:
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> of Jaws screen reading software.
>
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>
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>
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>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of O. Aishwarya
> Sent: 25 February 2017 21:34
> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled. 
> Subject: Re: [AI] Kindle books and their accessibility/convertibility
>
> Hi,
> Converting kindle books into more accessible formats definitely can be
> done.
> The easiest way of doing this, in my opinion, is through the ebook
> management program Calibre. Since kindle ebooks are protected with DRM to
> avoid piracy, you'll have to removethe DRM first. For this, after
> installing
> calibre, just install a DRM remover pluggin.
> After installing, any files imported into calibre will automatically have
> their DRM removed. Then you can convert to any format you want.
>
> On 2/25/17, sadaf khan  wrote:
>> hi,
>> I have herd that there is some way to convert the kindle books into
>> wanted formats. does anyone know how? I would love to read these books
>> in voice dreem reader instead of kindle.
>>
>> On 2/24/17, kannan balasubramanian  wrote:
>>> You can purchase these kindle books from www.amazon.in website. You
>>> can read these books in Amazon Kindle app for android. It is very
>>> much accessible with talkback.
>>>
>>> You can use Amazon Kindle accessibility for PC software.
>>>
>>> In my opinion, the Amazon Kindle for Android is very much accessible.
>>>
>>> Once you buy these kindle books It will be added in your kindle library.
>>>
>>> Kindle Unlimited is an option available for book lovers. You can pay
>>> subscription regularly and read thousands of books regularly.
>>>
>>> I am using this android app extensively.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>> B. KANNAN
>>> Mobile : +919444049216.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/23/17, Mohib Anwar Rafay  wrote:
 Hi friends there are few books on amazon in kindle format which I
 want to purchase. But I am just wondering how can I read those book?
 Are they accessible? By any method can I convert those books in any
 other accessible format so as to enable them to store in my computer
 to read with Kurzweil or jaws?

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[AI] Need a book: The exercise of freedom: an introduction to Dalit writings

[Avichal Bhatnagar]

Hi all,
As the subject line says, I am in urgent need of the book "The
exercise of freedom: an introduction to Dalit writings" edited by K.
Satyanarayana and Susie tharu
If anybody has it, please email it to me.
Thanks,
Avichal
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[AI] Training differently-abled employees — the SBI way

[Prashant Naik]

Training differently-abled employees — the SBI way

Bengaluru, February 28:

The bank has set up a Centre of Excellence that will impart training to
staff of other banks too

State Bank of India, which is the largest employer of those with
disabilities, has taken the lead to set up a Centre of Excellence (CoE) for
training employees with disability in Bengaluru.

The bank has set up the CoE keeping in mind it employs 2,800 people with
disability — about 1.4 per cent of its overall employee strength — and also
to be of service to other public sector enterprises and banks.

The CoE has been set up by the SBI Foundation.

Explaining the rationale for setting up the CoE in Bengaluru, SBI Chairman
Arundhati Bhattacharya said: “At this point, this will be the only
centre... Bengaluru has a lot of experts who can give us the right kind of
inputs to get this centre moving in the right way and, thereafter, we will
see how it goes.”

The centre initially will be ‘training the trainer’ and it is expected to
create the training modules or programmes. Bhattacharya said: “Similarly,
with other banks or public sector enterprises, we will train their
trainers, and they in turn will train their staff at their banks; so they
will not have to be brought here.”

CoE has not set any target for itself. “We are not taking a number as
target. The target is basically to try and do things better ourselves.
Ensure that every one of our employees is fully trained and therefore fully
integrated,” Bhattacharya said.

SBI is planning to help Canara Bank and Central Bank of India train their
staff. “We are trying to work with various other banks. The General
Manager, Human Resources, Canara Bank, met us. We are talking to them on
how to train their staff,” she said.

As for Central Bank of India, the training is for pan-India operations.
“Yes. We will share our knowledge with them, see how it goes and then take
it further because this is the first time we are starting all of this.
Obviously, it will take a little time for us to really get it going,” she
added.

With regard to funds, Bhattacharya said: “SBI is required to use or spend 1
per cent of its profits for CSR activities. So, whatever the net profit of
the bank, 1 per cent of that gets used the next year. Usually it exceeds,
you see the past trends, it has exceeded 1 per cent.”

(This article was published on February 28, 2017)

Source:
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[AI] FW: World\'s First Braille Smartwatch Lets Blind People Feel Messages on Screen

[Preeti Monga]

Hi Friends! This may interest some of you! Hence sharing!

Hey! I thought you might like this article! Enjoy! 

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Re: [AI] looking for suggestions and selution:

[Nirmal Verma]

Please call me to discuss your problems.

Nirmal

9311088660

On 1 Mar 2017 17:27, "Rakesh Wagmore"  wrote:

> Hello all in accessindia mailing group, I am Rakesh From Karnataka.
> Recently I came to know that Ministry of human resource development
> has launched an android app and its official website in order to make
> available all sorts of learning resource in digital content.
> With an enthused note of positive happiness I have explored my needful
> resources.
> to be precise I have downloaded few of English literature books in
> particularly many of histories of English literature books.
> After downloading those essential pdf books I tried to convert and even
> open it.
>  but the result is futile and extreme obstacle one.
> Because whichever pdf books are available from the heading sources of
> National digital library those books are protected by secure password.
> in order to seek selution in this regard I Even contacted IIT Korakpur
> university which is holding responsibility of managing the national
> digital source.
> But, they also not providing any specific selution.
> So please throw light on this very crucial aspect of issue, at the
> same time, if anyone know how to remove password through the other
> means.
> Please share Here.
> onemore thing, since it is government launched project We have to
> reflect and work towards getting ultimate selution.
>
>
> --
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>
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> Student of M.A second Year english literature, in central university
> of Karnataka.
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[AI] looking for suggestions and selution:

[Rakesh Wagmore]

Hello all in accessindia mailing group, I am Rakesh From Karnataka.
Recently I came to know that Ministry of human resource development
has launched an android app and its official website in order to make
available all sorts of learning resource in digital content.
With an enthused note of positive happiness I have explored my needful
resources.
to be precise I have downloaded few of English literature books in
particularly many of histories of English literature books.
After downloading those essential pdf books I tried to convert and even open it.
 but the result is futile and extreme obstacle one.
Because whichever pdf books are available from the heading sources of
National digital library those books are protected by secure password.
in order to seek selution in this regard I Even contacted IIT Korakpur
university which is holding responsibility of managing the national
digital source.
But, they also not providing any specific selution.
So please throw light on this very crucial aspect of issue, at the
same time, if anyone know how to remove password through the other
means.
Please share Here.
onemore thing, since it is government launched project We have to
reflect and work towards getting ultimate selution.


-- 
Thanks & Regards,

Rakesh S Wagmore.
Student of M.A second Year english literature, in central university
of Karnataka.
Mobile: 9620096723
E-mail Id: rakesh.honisty...@gmail.com
Skype Id: rakesh.s.wagmore


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Re: [AI] This is just the beginning!

[Kartik Sawhney]

Let's just say you will be hearing soon.

On 2/26/17, Nirmal Verma  wrote:
> This video has been on social media and elsewhere for two years. We haven't
> heard anything after this.
>
> Nirmal
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> On 26 Feb 2017 18:54, "harish kotian"  wrote:
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>> All
>>
>> Watch this incredible video.
>>
>> I don't have the source of this though:
>>
>>
>> https://my.pcloud.com/publink/show?code=XZUkidZ0Lhw5kRiSTYXem4yd34kByp
>> Q4AJk
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>> Harish Kotian
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