Re: [AI] NVDA extremely unresponsive on BBC website

2018-06-19 Thread Arijeet Patil
Dear list,
I require an urgent response to the EMails I just sent regarding screenreaders, 
as my unit tests are going on and the problems which I stated in those mails 
are ongoing, hampering my use of Jaws and NVDA.
Warmest regards,
Arijeet

Sent from my iPhone

> On 08-Jun-2018, at 06:46, Arijeet Patil  wrote:
> 
> Dear friends,
> Off late, NVDA has been unresponsive on my computer with the BBC website, 
> often causing it to crash, even in succession after i choose to recover the 
> page.
> This is the latest in a series of bugs with both screenreaders which I feel 
> have demoralized my usage of NVDA as well as Jaws.
> Until we can do something to pressure the developers to fix these issues, I 
> am using NVDA as my primary screenreader, and have switched back to iBBC, 
> planning to download Windows BBC, TOI and NDTV as well.
> Thank you all.
> Regards,
> Arijeet.
> PS,
> Has the iOS 12 beta reached India on air? Or is it yet to be transitioned 
> from Alphatesting.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone




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Re: [AI] Documents

2018-06-19 Thread Santosh Singh
Hi Vedika,

Application status if showing submitted doesn't mean your application was
rejected. My application was also showing as submitted for more than 6
months and after 6 months suddenly it started showing rejected due to hand
written disability certificate.

Santosh
On 18 Jun 2018 11:28 pm, "Vedika Phadke" <1emailved...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sir,
> Thank you for your detail explaination.
> Here many people are saying many things which creates lots of confusion.
> Noone knows many of the facts you explained, at my local place.
> the application for unique ID card is showing status as 'submited'. is it
> equivalent website's response to status as 'rejected'?
> Please reply if anyone experienced the same!
> thanking you,
> Vedika
>
> On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 10:26 AM, Santosh Singh 
> wrote:
>
> > Hi Vedika,
> >
> > Online disability certificate is a new computerised disability
> certificate
> > started couple of years back. This online certificate has all your
> details
> > printed and whatever percentage is decided by the software.The doctor
> just
> > need to enter your disability details on
> > https://sadm.maharashtra.gov.in/sadm/en/enHome.gov
> > .This type of onlime certificate is available in all the district level
> > hospital. Previously the old certificates had the disability details and
> > percentage  mentioned manually by examining doctor. The old certificates
> > are still valid but it's better we opt for new online certificate by
> > getting ourselves re-examined by civil surgeon. unoffically some people
> say
> > that your Aadhaar number is linked with the online certificate. Once you
> > get an online certificate in one state you can not get a new online
> > certificate from other state inindia as state govt share the details
> > with central govt and they have a mechanism in place to check for
> multiple
> > online certificates for same person.i advise you to apply for online
> > certificate as many govt organisation reject your disability certificate
> at
> > time of document verification. I have personally witnessed this happening
> > with one railway exam candidate. He was asked to get himself re-examined
> by
> > the civil surgeon and submit the disability certificate in latest format.
> >
> > Unique disability ID or Swawlamban card is a new initiative by Ministry
> of
> > Social Justice and Empowerment,  New Delhi which can be generated by
> > applying online at http://www.swavlambancard.gov.in/
> >
> > After applying you will get a credit card size Unique disability card
> which
> > is equivalent to your computerised online certificate and also valid
> across
> > all over India. In future disability certificate is going to be phased
> out
> > and unique disability card will be used for availing all disability
> > benefits.
> > NOTE: If you have the old manual type certificate then your application
> for
> > unique card will be rejected. My application for disability card was
> > rejected for this reason.
> >
> > The railway concession card is a credit card size card issued by the
> > nearest Divisional Railway Manager,Commercial Department which is close
> to
> > your place of residence. You can use this card for online booking of
> > concession tickets for people with disability. If you dont have such card
> > then for getting concession tickets you have to visit the reservation
> > counter along with copy of  railway concession certificate.In Mumbai you
> > can apply at CST or Mumbai Central DRM office. There is format of
> > application and one needs to submit along with self attested copies of
> > disability certificate, your address proof, Railway concession
> certificate.
> > Once your documents are verified then card will be issued in your name.
> > Validity of this card is dependent on your validity of your railway
> > concession certificate.
> >
> > I hope this clears your doubts.
> >
> > Santosh
> > On 18 Jun 2018 8:24 am, "Vedika Phadke" <1emailved...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Sir / Madam,
> > > I want clarification regarding 'online disability certificate', 'unique
> > ID
> > > card', and 'railway smaart card'.
> > > I have tried to find out details about these documents but I am failed
> to
> > > get satisfied information.
> > > Plese share the respective links if anyone having the same!
> > > I have following questions mainly -
> > > 1 is 'Unique ID card' and 'Rilway smart card' are one and same?
> > > 2 should persons having disability certificate issued by civil sersion
> > > apply for 'online disability certificate' again?
> > > 3 has anyone received 'unique ID card' who has applied for the same?
> > > Please reply!
> > > thanking you,
> > > Vedika
> > > Kolhapur Maharashtra
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Re: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home

2018-06-19 Thread P. Subramani
dear Prashant sir,  your tv model choice much higher in terms of cost which 
many may not afford.  However, I have selected  sony kdl43w800d costing 
about 60k in flipcart.  I request you and others learned members to advise 
whether  this particular tv is good enough for  us to work on in terms of 
specifications and features. Thanks and P. Subramani   - Original 
Message - 
From: "Prashant Ranjan Verma" 
To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning 
the disabled.'" ; "'list'" 
; "'sayeverything'" 

Sent: 14 June, 2018 8:54 PM
Subject: [AI] How TV and satellite channels became accessible in my home



Dear all,
I have been able to get a talking TV and more importantly get screen 
reader access to the list of channels and program guide of Tata Sky, one 
of the DTH service providers. This is how it became possible.
1. Purchased Sony Bravia Android TV. My TV model  number is Sony 
KD-49X7500E. I think other models in the Sony Bravia Android series should 
also work.
2. Activated Talkback on the TV. It required sighted assistance to go into 
the settings and accessibility option. After Talkback started, I have been 
able to use the TV menus and its Android OS independently with the remote 
control.
3. YouTube, Netflix and many other apps are pre-installed on the TV. I can 
search and play programs with the help of Talkback. This TV also has voice 
search function and it is very accurate. Amazon Prime video  app is not 
working with Talkback.
4. This TV has a feature which allows it to detect connected Tata Sky set 
top box. The Tata Sky can be operated with the TV remote, once setup there 
is no need to use the Tata Sky remote, you can do everything with the TV 
remote.
5. The TV has a pre-installed app called Program Guide. This app can be 
opened to see the Guide which lists the channels with current programs or 
one can also view list of programs by different genres. Talkback works 
properly here. One can browse through the list of channels and programs 
and select them to view.


Additionally now I have been able to connect my TV with Amazon Alexa. The 
Sony Bravia and Alexa support each other. Sony has a app on the TV and 
Alexa has the skill which need to be configured.
Now I can just ask Alexa to Switch On the TV, Volume up/mute, ask Alexa to 
put a channel number on the TV. Even switching channel name is supported. 
For example Alexa change channel to Times Now on TV. However, saying the 
name always does not work. This is probably also because there are so many 
similar channel names such as Colors, Colors HD, Colors HD plus etc. ,


I wish we get talking set top boxes soon. but for the time being I have a 
working solution in my home.


thanks,
Prashant Ranjan Verma

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Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread Kanchan Pamnani


The problem is manifold-
1. These guidelines are not restricted to UPSE. We have fought so hard to 
ensure that scribes will be brought by the candidates and not by the Examining 
Authority in the first place. Why has the sub-committee made us surrender? 
Tomorrows fight.
 -Original Message-

From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
Sent: 19 June 2018 15:22
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

As I understand, both the recommendation from the sub-committee and the 
response from UPSC are stated here for our understanding. UPSC's claim to be 
lacking resources in providing alternate writing mode for differently abled is 
simply unbelievable and they can always approach the Central gov for additional 
resources. So in my view, UPSC will not even think about implementing these 
points without any directive from the court. It's the time that we make them 
realize that simple zoom text question papers are hardly enough in fulfilling 
special needs of diversed population of the differently abled candidates. Vetri.

On 19/06/2018, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> What I understand is that:
> 1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
> 2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they 
> cannot, candidates will bring their own junior scribe.
>
> First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
> We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
> Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether 
> own or needs to be provided.
> Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior 
> and not one degree or course junior.
>
> Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
> Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be 
> mandated wherever exam is online.
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
> laughter.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines
>
> Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?
>
> K
>
>
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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
The framed guidelines are getting sabotaged. K 

-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of sazid shaik
Sent: 19 June 2018 17:02
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

dear experts,
Is this guidelines had framed?  Is this only for UPSC/

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 6/19/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hi
> My comments are under:
>
> 3. IV. It is welcome that the commission agreed to meet the scribe a 
> day in advance. However, if the candidate is not happy with any of the 
> scribes, what is the mechanism to solve the problem. There is no time 
> at all for the commission to find another set of scribes.
> In terms of solution, either the days of meeting the scribe should be 
> increased or some flexibility should be given so that the candidate 
> can propose his own scribe giving the examination conductor to satisfy 
> the suitability of the scribe. Moreover, mere meeting will be of 
> little use until they attempt some dummy questions online or offline 
> as the case may be. It may be reasonable restriction if the candidate 
> and scribe are restricted to share their contact details.
>
> VII. It is unclear if alternate mode of giving exams is permitted. The 
> commission should be open to consider this request as a proactive measure.
> VIII. Unclear if the commission permits blind person to give the exams 
> on the computer. There seems dependency on the government to provide 
> the facility. Again we should press for it.
>
> Harish
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
> Behalf Of Kotian, H P
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 3:01 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>
>
> All
> Kanchan's mail did not get on the list. Hence, I am copying it below.
> Regards
> Harish Kotian
>
> Quoting
>
>
> From: Kanchan Pamnani [mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 18 June 2018 10:49
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
> concerning the disabled.'
> Subject: Scribe guidelines
>
> Hi Friends,
> You are all aware that U P S E had objected to some of the clauses of 
> the
> 2013 Guidelines. So a committee was set up of which I am a member. In the
> last meeting it was decided to set up a subcommittee   which has now sent
> its recommendations. The U P S E has commented on the recommendations.
> The meeting is on 20th June.
> Kindly go through the statement below and let me have your feedback by 
> tomorrow evening.
> Kanchan
> Statement indicating recommendations of the Sub-Committee , UPSC's 
> comments, and recommendations of the Department thereon
>
> Para No.   Guidelines dated 26.02.2013   Revision
> recommended by the Sub-Committee UPSC's comments w.r.t. the 
> Sub-Committee's recommendations  Department's comments
>
> III
> The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to any 
> person who has disability of 40% or more if so desired by the person.
> The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to 
> persons with benchmark disabilities (i.e. with disability of 40% or 
> more) and has physical limitation to write including that of speed. In 
> case of persons with benchmark disabilities in the category of 
> blindness, locomotor disability (both arm affected-BA) and cerebral 
> palsy, the facility of scribe/reader/lab assistant shall be given, if so
desired by the person.
> In case of other category of persons with benchmark disabilities, the 
> provision of scribe/reader/lab assistant can be allowed on production 
> of a certificate to the effect that the person concerned has physical 
> limitation to write, and scribe is essential to write examination on 
> his behalf, from the specialist of a Government health care 
> institution of the relevant stream of disability as per proforma at
Annexure I.
> The Commission agrees with the proposal of allowing the facility of 
> scribe to the candidates falling under the categories of blindness, 
> locomotor disability (both arm affected - BA) and cerebral palsy, if 
> so desired by such candidates.
>
> As regards allowing the facility of scribe/reader/ lab assistant in 
> case of other category of persons with disabilities on production of 
> the certificate, the Commission agrees with the recommendation 
> provided such certificate on physical limitation to write is issued to 
> such candidates by the CMO of Government Hospital of respective District
only.
>
> It is further stated that since the Commission does not ask for any 
> certificate including PwBD at initial application stage, the 
> Commission would allow such candidates of other benchmark disabilities 
> the facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant for appearing at the First 
> Stage
> (Preliminary/Stage-I) in a Multi-Stage Examination on the basis of 
> undertaking from them. However, 

[AI] Bat Travels' next trip: the unexplored land

2018-06-19 Thread Bat Travels



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Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread George Abraham
There is only one point I would like to emphasise. The blind candidate must
be given the definite opportunity to write exams using computers. This
should not be dependent on Govt. facilities being available.



-Original Message-
From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
Of Kotian, H P
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 3:01 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines


All
Kanchan's mail did not get on the list. Hence, I am copying it below.
Regards
Harish Kotian

Quoting


From: Kanchan Pamnani [mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com]
Sent: 18 June 2018 10:49
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
the disabled.'
Subject: Scribe guidelines

Hi Friends,
You are all aware that U P S E had objected to some of the clauses of the
2013 Guidelines. So a committee was set up of which I am a member. In the
last meeting it was decided to set up a subcommittee   which has now sent
its recommendations. The U P S E has commented on the recommendations.
The meeting is on 20th June.
Kindly go through the statement below and let me have your feedback by
tomorrow evening.
Kanchan
Statement indicating recommendations of the Sub-Committee , UPSC's comments,
and recommendations of the Department thereon

Para No.   Guidelines dated 26.02.2013   Revision
recommended by the Sub-Committee UPSC's comments w.r.t. the Sub-Committee's
recommendations  Department's comments

III
The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to any person
who has disability of 40% or more if so desired by the person.
The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to persons
with benchmark disabilities (i.e. with disability of 40% or more) and has
physical limitation to write including that of speed. In case of persons
with benchmark disabilities in the category of blindness, locomotor
disability (both arm affected-BA) and cerebral palsy, the facility of
scribe/reader/lab assistant shall be given, if so desired by the person.
In case of other category of persons with benchmark disabilities, the
provision of scribe/reader/lab assistant can be allowed on production of a
certificate to the effect that the person concerned has physical limitation
to write, and scribe is essential to write examination on his behalf, from
the specialist of a Government health care institution of the relevant
stream of disability as per proforma at Annexure I.
The Commission agrees with the proposal of allowing the facility of scribe
to the candidates falling under the categories of blindness, locomotor
disability (both arm affected - BA) and cerebral palsy, if so desired by
such candidates.

As regards allowing the facility of scribe/reader/ lab assistant in case of
other category of persons with disabilities on production of the
certificate, the Commission agrees with the recommendation provided such
certificate on physical limitation to write is issued to such candidates by
the CMO of Government Hospital of respective District only.

It is further stated that since the Commission does not ask for any
certificate including PwBD at initial application stage, the Commission
would allow such candidates of other benchmark disabilities the facility of
Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant for appearing at the First Stage
(Preliminary/Stage-I) in a Multi-Stage Examination on the basis of
undertaking from them. However, such certificates will be checked at the
time of Second Stage (Main/Stage-II) of the Examination.
UPSC mostly agrees on the recommendation of the Sub-Committee. However, they
have suggested that the certificate,  required to be produced by the person
with  other category of disability than blindness, locomotor disability &
cerebral palsy for availing the facility of scribe, should be issued by CMO
instead of  specialist of a Government health care institution.

 Department may agree to it.


IVThe candidate should have the discretion of opting for his own
scribe/reader/lab assistant or request the Examination Body for the same.
The examining body may also identify the scribe/reader/lab assistant to make
panels at the District/Division/State level as per the requirements of the
examination. In such instances the candidates should be allowed to meet the
scribe a day before the examination so that the candidates get a chance to
check and verify whether the scribe is suitable or not.  The
examining body may identify the scribe/reader/lab assistant (language/stream
wise) to develop a pool at the District/Division/State level as per the
requirements of the examination. In such instances the candidates should be
allowed to meet the scribe a day before the examination so that the
candidates get a chance to check and verify whether the scribe is suitable
or not.
In case the examining body is not in a position to make available the
scribe/reader/lab assistant from its side, the candidate would then be
allowed for opting 

Re: [AI] Scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread sazid shaik
dear experts,
Is this guidelines had framed?  Is this only for UPSC/

thanks and regards,
sazid

On 6/19/18, Kotian, H P  wrote:
> Hi
> My comments are under:
>
> 3. IV. It is welcome that the commission agreed to meet the scribe a day in
> advance. However, if the candidate is not happy with any of the scribes,
> what is the mechanism to solve the problem. There is no time at all for the
> commission to find another set of scribes.
> In terms of solution, either the days of meeting the scribe should be
> increased or some flexibility should be given so that the candidate can
> propose his own scribe giving the examination conductor to satisfy the
> suitability of the scribe. Moreover, mere meeting will be of little use
> until they attempt some dummy questions online or offline as the case may
> be. It may be reasonable restriction if the candidate and scribe are
> restricted to share their contact details.
>
> VII. It is unclear if alternate mode of giving exams is permitted. The
> commission should be open to consider this request as a proactive measure.
> VIII. Unclear if the commission permits blind person to give the exams on
> the computer. There seems dependency on the government to provide the
> facility. Again we should press for it.
>
> Harish
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kotian, H P
> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2018 3:01 PM
> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
> Subject: [AI] Scribe guidelines
>
>
> All
> Kanchan's mail did not get on the list. Hence, I am copying it below.
> Regards
> Harish Kotian
>
> Quoting
>
>
> From: Kanchan Pamnani [mailto:kanchanpamn...@gmail.com]
> Sent: 18 June 2018 10:49
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: Scribe guidelines
>
> Hi Friends,
> You are all aware that U P S E had objected to some of the clauses of the
> 2013 Guidelines. So a committee was set up of which I am a member. In the
> last meeting it was decided to set up a subcommittee   which has now sent
> its recommendations. The U P S E has commented on the recommendations.
> The meeting is on 20th June.
> Kindly go through the statement below and let me have your feedback by
> tomorrow evening.
> Kanchan
> Statement indicating recommendations of the Sub-Committee , UPSC's comments,
> and recommendations of the Department thereon
>
> Para No.   Guidelines dated 26.02.2013   Revision
> recommended by the Sub-Committee UPSC's comments w.r.t. the Sub-Committee's
> recommendations  Department's comments
>
> III
> The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to any person
> who has disability of 40% or more if so desired by the person.
> The facility of Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant should be allowed to persons
> with benchmark disabilities (i.e. with disability of 40% or more) and has
> physical limitation to write including that of speed. In case of persons
> with benchmark disabilities in the category of blindness, locomotor
> disability (both arm affected-BA) and cerebral palsy, the facility of
> scribe/reader/lab assistant shall be given, if so desired by the person.
> In case of other category of persons with benchmark disabilities, the
> provision of scribe/reader/lab assistant can be allowed on production of a
> certificate to the effect that the person concerned has physical limitation
> to write, and scribe is essential to write examination on his behalf, from
> the specialist of a Government health care institution of the relevant
> stream of disability as per proforma at Annexure I.
> The Commission agrees with the proposal of allowing the facility of scribe
> to the candidates falling under the categories of blindness, locomotor
> disability (both arm affected - BA) and cerebral palsy, if so desired by
> such candidates.
>
> As regards allowing the facility of scribe/reader/ lab assistant in case of
> other category of persons with disabilities on production of the
> certificate, the Commission agrees with the recommendation provided such
> certificate on physical limitation to write is issued to such candidates by
> the CMO of Government Hospital of respective District only.
>
> It is further stated that since the Commission does not ask for any
> certificate including PwBD at initial application stage, the Commission
> would allow such candidates of other benchmark disabilities the facility of
> Scribe/Reader/Lab Assistant for appearing at the First Stage
> (Preliminary/Stage-I) in a Multi-Stage Examination on the basis of
> undertaking from them. However, such certificates will be checked at the
> time of Second Stage (Main/Stage-II) of the Examination.
> UPSC mostly agrees on the recommendation of the Sub-Committee. However, they
> have suggested that the certificate,  required to be produced by the person
> with  other category of disability than blindness, locomotor disability &
> cerebral palsy for availing 

Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread Kanchan Pamnani
Does anyone want the statement as an attachment. Please email me and I will 
send it. 
I still haven’t got my ticket and ..
Its crazy. 
K 

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From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of 
Shweta Mishra
Sent: 19 June 2018 15:30
To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.
Subject: Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

hi experts!
please explain, should the scribe be one grade junior to the candidate? or 
scribe should be junior to the minimum eligibility criteria?

On 6/19/18, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
> As I understand, both the recommendation from the sub-committee and 
> the response from UPSC are stated here for our understanding. UPSC's 
> claim to be lacking resources in providing alternate writing mode for 
> differently abled is simply unbelievable and they can always approach 
> the Central gov for additional resources. So in my view, UPSC will not 
> even think about implementing these points without any directive from 
> the court. It's the time that we make them realize that simple zoom 
> text question papers are hardly enough in fulfilling special needs of 
> diversed population of the differently abled candidates. Vetri.
>
> On 19/06/2018, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> What I understand is that:
>> 1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
>> 2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they 
>> cannot, candidates will bring their own junior scribe.
>>
>> First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
>> We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
>> Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether 
>> own or needs to be provided.
>> Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior 
>> and not one degree or course junior.
>>
>> Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
>> Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be 
>> mandated wherever exam is online.
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India नागपुर Nagpur
>>
>> 0712 2806846
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>> Co-Moderator
>> VIB-India
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and 
>> laughter.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On 
>> Behalf Of Kanchan Pamnani
>> Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues 
>> concerning the disabled.'
>> Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines
>>
>> Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?
>>
>> K
>>
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Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread Shweta Mishra
hi experts!
please explain, should the scribe be one grade junior to the
candidate? or scribe should be junior to the minimum eligibility
criteria?

On 6/19/18, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan  wrote:
> As I understand, both the recommendation from the sub-committee and
> the response from UPSC are stated here for our understanding. UPSC's
> claim to be lacking resources in providing alternate writing mode for
> differently abled is simply unbelievable and they can always approach
> the Central gov for additional resources. So in my view, UPSC will not
> even think about implementing these points without any directive from
> the court. It's the time that we make them realize that simple zoom
> text question papers are hardly enough in fulfilling special needs of
> diversed population of the differently abled candidates. Vetri.
>
> On 19/06/2018, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
>> What I understand is that:
>> 1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
>> 2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they cannot,
>> candidates will bring their own junior scribe.
>>
>> First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
>> We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
>> Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether own or
>> needs to be provided.
>> Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior and
>> not
>> one degree or course junior.
>>
>> Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
>> Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be mandated
>> wherever exam is online.
>>
>>
>> सादर / With thanks & Regards
>> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
>> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
>> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
>> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
>> नागपुर Nagpur
>>
>> 0712 2806846
>>
>> President
>> VIBEWA
>> Co-Moderator
>> VIB-India
>>
>> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
>> laughter.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On
>> Behalf
>> Of Kanchan Pamnani
>> Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues
>> concerning
>> the disabled.'
>> Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines
>>
>> Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?
>>
>> K
>>
>>
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Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan
As I understand, both the recommendation from the sub-committee and
the response from UPSC are stated here for our understanding. UPSC's
claim to be lacking resources in providing alternate writing mode for
differently abled is simply unbelievable and they can always approach
the Central gov for additional resources. So in my view, UPSC will not
even think about implementing these points without any directive from
the court. It's the time that we make them realize that simple zoom
text question papers are hardly enough in fulfilling special needs of
diversed population of the differently abled candidates. Vetri.

On 19/06/2018, Asudani, Rajesh  wrote:
> What I understand is that:
> 1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
> 2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they cannot,
> candidates will bring their own junior scribe.
>
> First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
> We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
> Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether own or
> needs to be provided.
> Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior and not
> one degree or course junior.
>
> Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
> Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be mandated
> wherever exam is online.
>
>
> सादर / With thanks & Regards
> राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
> सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
> बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
> भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
> नागपुर Nagpur
>
> 0712 2806846
>
> President
> VIBEWA
> Co-Moderator
> VIB-India
>
> A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and
> laughter.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf
> Of Kanchan Pamnani
> Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning
> the disabled.'
> Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines
>
> Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?
>
> K
>
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Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread Asudani, Rajesh
What I understand is that:
1. one step junior norm is going to be brought in again.
2. Primarily examination bodies will provide the writer, if they cannot, 
candidates will bring their own junior scribe.

First is okay, as no percentage etc. is mentioned.
We should clearly say second point is not acceptable.
Discretion should be with candidate about choice of scribe, whether own or 
needs to be provided.
Besides, one step junior should be clarified to mean one year junior and not 
one degree or course junior.

Creation of specialized centers for computerized exam is unjustified.
Installation of assistive technology and accessibility should be mandated 
wherever exam is online.


सादर / With thanks & Regards
राजेश आसुदानी Rajesh Asudani
सहायक महाप्रबन्धक AGM
बाजार आसूचना ईकाई MIU
भारतीय रिजर्व बैंक Reserve Bank of India
नागपुर Nagpur

0712 2806846

President
VIBEWA
Co-Moderator
VIB-India

A-pilll = Action coupled with Positivity, Interest, Love, Logic and laughter.


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Sent: 19 June 2018 11:42
To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning the 
disabled.'
Subject: [AI] scribe guidelines

Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?

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[AI] Google's internal handbook instructs engineers to bury Natural News web pages from search results

2018-06-19 Thread pranaya rani
Google’s internal handbook instructs engineers to bury Natural News web pages 
from search results

 

Sunday, June 10, 2018 by: 
Lance D Johnson
Tags: 
brainwashing,
Censorship,
contrarian viewpoint,
dictated search results,
dissent,
Glitch,
internet,
oppression,
pharmaceutical propaganda,
power,
question authority,
search engine,
settled science,
sheeple,
tech giants,
thought control,
Tyranny

 

6,090VIEWS
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Image: Google’s internal handbook instructs engineers to bury Natural News web 
pages from search results 
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(Natural News)
Google should no longer be considered a search engine, a place where you can 
freely lookup information. Google does not truly honor your search terms and
does not provide honest results from around the World Wide Web.

 

According to the Google handbook,
Google reserves the right to de-list pages “that directly contradict well 
established scientific or medical consensus for queries seeking scientific or
medical information, unless the query indicates the user is seeking an 
alternative viewpoint.” The institutions and industries that influence Google 
can
now use the search engine to censor out any contrarian or dissenting 
information that would dishevel their business interests. For instance, 
articles explaining
the truth about chemotherapy or the dangers of psychiatric medication can be 
buried in Google’s “search engine” because the information “contradicts well
established medical consensus.”

 

On page 108 of the search evaluator quality guidelines,
 Google gives a glimpse into the type of reference information they bury, 
including “Pages that directly contradict well-established historical facts 
(e.g.,
unsubstantiated conspiracy theories), unless the query clearly indicates the 
user is seeking an alternative viewpoint.” In this way, Google, its engineers
and influencers can control what people know to be true about history. Any 
dissenting eyewitness accounts of a historical event can be considered 
“contradictory
to well-established historical facts.” In other words, there is an official 
story on every event and we must all obey it, no questions asked.

 

For these reasons, Google should be considered a manipulative propaganda 
machine. First, Google uses your search terms to learn more about you. The 
information
that Google collects is used to target market information and products to their 
users. Second, Google manipulates what is presented to you (even in search
results) to control the information that you read. This is akin to 
brainwashing. Any information that questions the “official story” can be 
buried, manipulating
readers to accept the “official story” as true, even though science and 
historical fact are routinely manipulated to carry out an institution’s goals 
and
protect those in power.

 

In order to get information out to people, the independent media 
faces an uphill battle going forward
 because Google is burying independent media stories. If the story conflicts 
with an industry’s agenda or a scientific consensus, then Google reserves
the right to de-list the story from its index. The more Google can demonize 
contrarian information, the more that information will appear as unfounded
conspiracy theory. For instance, Google’s YouTube 
banned a video about cannabis oil.
YouTube claimed the video was “dangerous” and they struck down the NaturalNews 
YouTube channel. This information is life-saving, but will be perceived
as controversial, all because Google de-legitimized and censored it. This 
blatant censorship hinders people from accessing wisdom from those who have 
bucked
the status quo and healed themselves. Articles on natural healing will continue 
to be buried because these stories contradict “well-established scientific
fact.”

 

If you have a thirst for knowledge and want to learn more about topics such as 
vaccines, enhancing cognitive function, boosting natural immunity, don’t
look to Google for information, for they manipulate the information they allow 
you to read.

 

If you want to learn the events surrounding 9/11 or the Kennedy assassination, 
you will easily be misled by Google, which wants compliance to the official
story, so you cannot question authority whatsoever. In this way, the public is 
more obedient, compliant – an easily manipulated pack of slaves who do not
have the power to heal themselves, think for themselves, and become more self 
reliant.

 

If you want to learn the truth, use alternative search engines such as 
GoodGopher
 or DuckDuckGo. Print out important documents for later use. Bookmark and keep 
a written copy of websites that provide  valuable information that will
inevitably be omitted from Google’s search dictatorship.

 

For more on Google’s censorship efforts, visit 
Censorship.News
 and check out 
Real.Video
 for a more comprehensive search for knowledge.

 

Sources include:

 

RayGano.com

 

GovtSlaves.com

 

NaturalNews.com

 


Re: [AI] scribe guidelines

2018-06-19 Thread pranaya rani
Its not clear whether blind will be allowed their own scribes! In one para
they say blind can take their own scribes while in some other para, they say
commission will provide 100 percent scribes.   Its ambigious whether we can
take our own relatives as scribes (as its not easy to get scribes), this is
because, in one para  it says that scribes shouldn't be close to the
candidates or something like that. Kanchan will be in a better position to
clarify the same

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Has anyone seen the amount of trouble we are going to be in?

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