Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Frans Bouma
Two simple questions for which I should know the answer, but don't: Does XP SP2 include the .NET framework? Yes If so, what version(s)? Does it include any bits from the upcoming .NET service packs [1]? I don't think so as the SP isn't released yet. The system.dll

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
My understanding is that .NET Framework is not included in SP2 There is no mention of it at all here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2chngs.mspx Changes to Functionality in Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 2 Additionally, there is no mention on the link you

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Jeroen Frijters
Shawn A. Van Ness wrote: Two simple questions for which I should know the answer, but don't: Does XP SP2 include the .NET framework? If so, what version(s)? Does it include any bits from the upcoming .NET service packs [1]? I can't give any authoritive answers, but I have the following

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Jekke Bladt
As luck would have it, I just installed a fresh machine with Windows XP, did all the auto-updates, then added the network/many computers version of XPSP2. Immediately thereaftere, I did a full install of the SQL Server 2005 Beta and got to watch it do a fresh install of the .net 2.0 runtime. So,

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Thomas Tomiczek
So, unless the SQL Server installer is working incorrectly (improbable, but not inconceivable,) XPSP2 didn't install the 2.0 framework. Given that even your SQL Server 2005 BETA does NOT NOT NOT install the .NET 2.0 framework, just a beta, It is pretty clear that XPSP2 will NOT install

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Vince Pacella
Oh relax already. Regards, J. Vince Pacella / OOCL Chicago Cell 773-454-8683 Fax - 773-867-5050 Cargo Tracking Online at: www.cargosmart.com and www.oocl.com -Original Message- From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thomas

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Jekke Bladt
Thomas-- I say this with the utmost respect for your talent and position... Decaf can taste just as good as regular coffee these days. When troubleshooting a question like this, analysis towards does not is always preferrable to would not. --Jekke -Original Message- From: Unmoderated

[ADVANCED-DOTNET] WebServices/integrated auth: An unexpected error occurred on a send

2004-08-23 Thread Andy Hopper
I'm seeing this WebException pop up randomly when connecting to an ASP.NET 1.1 Web Service using integrated authentication: System.Net.WebException: The underlying connection was closed: An unexpected error occurred on a send. at System.Web.Services.Protocols.WebClientProtocol.GetWebResponse

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Thomas Scheidegger
The .NET Framework is on the ISO image you can download from MSDN Subscriber downloads (the 400MB one), and a colleague here said that you get an option as part of the auto-run to install .NET Framework. The .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 is included on the RTM XPSP2 ISO image from MSDN.

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread J. Merrill
At 02:08 PM 8/23/2004, Thomas Scheidegger wrote The .NET Framework is on the ISO image you can download from MSDN Subscriber downloads (the 400MB one), and a colleague here said that you get an option as part of the auto-run to install .NET Framework. The .NET Framework 1.1 SP1 is

[ADVANCED-DOTNET] Optimization and IL

2004-08-23 Thread Curt Hagenlocher
How good is the (x86) JITter at producing optimal code from IL? I was looking at some IL generated by the C# compiler, and it struck me as fairly even when optimization was turned on. Of course, this doesn't matter if the JITter can optimize away the superfluous local variables, loads and

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Kristoffer Sheather
Relxation is definitely in order.. No updates with XP SP2, if there was I'm sure you would have heard about it by now. -Original Message- From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Vince Pacella Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2004 0:26 To:

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Shawn A. Van Ness
Wow, thanks for the responses everyone. (Especially Jekke, for the line about decaf.. rotfl!) I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who's a bit confused... g I can add a little info to this thread, myself: I installed SP2 from the ISO cd image, but I already had the v1.0sp2 and v1.1 CLRs on all

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Kristoffer Sheather
Who comprises your target installation base? -Original Message- From: Unmoderated discussion of advanced .NET topics. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shawn A. Van Ness Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2004 10:36 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Shawn A. Van Ness
Who comprises your target installation base? I do a lot of research dev for Tablet PC. The improvements to the Tablet PC experience w/ SP2 are *huge*, definitely not the kind of thing you expect of a SP, more like a major rev (or two or three). It would not be out of the question to require

Re: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning?

2004-08-23 Thread Ken Schaefer
- Original Message - From: Thomas Scheidegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ADVANCED-DOTNET] .NET vs Windows SP versioning? :The .NET Framework is on the ISO image you can download from MSDN Subscriber downloads (the 400MB one), :and a colleague here said that you get an option