Re: Perl's Glory Days Are Behind It, But It Isn't Going Anywhere

2013-02-03 Thread Peter Scott
On Sat, 02 Feb 2013 23:21:24 -0600, Jeremy Fluhmann wrote: On Sat, Feb 2, 2013 at 10:12 PM, Peter Scott pe...@psdt.com wrote: Yesterday I was talking with a colleague about configuration management frameworks like Chef, Puppet, and Saltstack. Those are Python- and Ruby- based. He asked

Re: Perl's Glory Days Are Behind It, But It Isn't Going Anywhere

2013-02-02 Thread Peter Scott
disappointed. -- Peter Scott http://www.perlmedic.com/ http://www.perldebugged.com/ http://www.informit.com/store/product.aspx?isbn=0137001274 http://www.oreillyschool.com/certificates/perl-programming.php

Re: Nature of this list

2011-04-23 Thread Peter Scott
or involving Perl and discussions about how to make Perl be accepted in the workplace. Not sure where else it belongs (email?) but the current thread is a netiquette debate. I can't see a sufficient relationship to advocacy. Feel free to create a perl-flames list :-) -- Peter Scott http

Re: There is no cabal

2008-04-28 Thread Peter Scott
On Mon, 28 Apr 2008 11:41:00 -0500, Andy Lester wrote: What sort of power are you ascribing to these unnamed people-in- power? There is no power. There is no Perl Cabal [...] Oh, I beg to differ: http://web.archive.org/web/20030716002311/perlcabal.com/lwall.html :-) -- Peter Scott http

Re: Future Perl development

2007-03-01 Thread Peter Scott
a charisma for communicating with moneybags that eludes most of us, but their constant exposure to that work will likely lead them to ideas that haven't occurred to us. Let's do it. -- Peter Scott

Re: Central Wiki for Perl (?)

2006-06-30 Thread Peter Scott
vs my level of PHP expertise, which may be a factor for other folk maintaining your wiki. -- Peter Scott http://www.perlmedic.com/ http://www.perldebugged.com/

Perl Google trend

2006-05-12 Thread Peter Scott
I don't know how long it's been up, but I just noticed Google Trends. See http://www.google.com/trends?q=perl While the news volume for Perl appears fairly constant, there is a clear long term downward trend in the volume of searches for Perl. -- Peter Scott http://www.perlmedic.com/ http

Re: Perl Google trend

2006-05-12 Thread Peter Scott
the top two. For 'ruby programming', none. I am not sure what this means. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/ http://www.perlmedic.com/

Perl Dress Code

2006-03-29 Thread Peter Scott
Based upon http://xrl.us/kmqa , perhaps it's time we established a dress code for us in public. What should the well-dressed Perl hacker wear? Camel-hair suit, perhaps? -- Peter Scott http://www.perlmedic.com/ http://www.perldebugged.com/

Another opportunity missed

2003-11-17 Thread Peter Scott
contest for dromedaries yet the event was held in the main habitat for bactrians was not explained. -- Peter Scott http://www.perldebugged.com/ *** NEW *** http//www.perlmedic.com/

RE: [Fwd: IMPORTANT: Request removal of WWW::EuroTV]

2003-02-11 Thread Peter Scott
to back them*, and we don't, so even if we're right it's a moot point. So let's give this one up and move on. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/

Re: [Fwd: IMPORTANT: Request removal of WWW::EuroTV]

2003-02-06 Thread Peter Scott
in the WWW:: name space ... Regards, Johan Van den rande -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com/

Perl patent

2003-02-04 Thread Peter Scott
to a perl.legal, I think. -- Peter Scott

Re: patent?

2003-02-04 Thread Peter Scott
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Nathan Torkington) writes: Peter Scott alerted me to a recent discussion in comp.lang.perl.misc on this patent (this URL will redirect you to the USPTO page): http://xrl.us/bph And in fact I sent it to this list via nntp.perl.org to begin

Re: comparing Perl to .... X

2002-04-09 Thread Peter Scott
in terms of why language X is better than Y is going to go up in flames in short order. As, perhaps, it should. Peter Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.perldebugged.com

Re: comparing Perl to .... X

2002-04-09 Thread Peter Scott
At 12:45 PM 4/9/2002 -0500, _brian_d_foy wrote: you also need to protect yourself, too. i've taught a lot of Perl and every class has some really sharp people who know a lot more than i do about a particular topic. if i start spouting off about Java, for instance, i'll probably get trounced by

Re: Perl certification (was: Advertising Perl)

2001-08-17 Thread Peter Scott
. Then there are a bunch of Linux certifications and AFAICT that has had no impact on the ability of competent people to get Linux jobs, since most Linux advocates feel the same way most Perl ones do about certification. Therefore I think the whole debate is academic. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design

Re: Corrupting the Perl community (was perl vs php.)

2001-08-16 Thread Peter Scott
in most places without telling anyone that it is being used. If businesspeople knew it was being used, they are as likely, or more likely, to order that it not be used anymore as they are to ask that its use be increased. Businesspeople are dumb like that. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design

Re: Advertising Perl

2001-08-15 Thread Peter Scott
- 'This Module's Goin' To CPAN' -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com

Re: perl vs php. just the facts, ma'am.

2001-08-13 Thread Peter Scott
. To determine whether or not Perl is healthy we have to apply different standards and heuristics from the ones we use to judge product-oriented languages. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies http://www.perldebugged.com

Re: Microsoft and Perl

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Scott
of Open Source to these guys: they would be forced into a model where they couldn't pretend that rude behavior would get them anywhere. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Microsoft and Perl

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Scott
with myself. Doesn't need to be that elaborate. Hmm. Could be a job for use.perl.org? -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Microsoft and Perl

2001-03-14 Thread Peter Scott
for $50k, then spent $400k+ on consulting, integration, and tech support from the vendor to try and get it to perform capabilities which were believed to be out-of-the box functionality. Most support contracts don't guarantee anything other than a prompt answer. -- Peter Scott Pacific Syst

Re: Contest

2000-09-19 Thread Peter Scott
what to do with the copy of Visual C++ that was his prize. Z. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Useage of Perl up or down?

2000-08-13 Thread Peter Scott
le, then push it out. There are places where that just isn't enough. Larry can tell you plenty about how hardware and software freezes dominate operations at JPL, for instance. Quality control and integration issue. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Useage of Perl up or down?

2000-08-11 Thread Peter Scott
want to do those things and the lack of them is a barrier to Perl dominating that market. Fortunately it looks as though Perl 6 will take huge steps in the right direction. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Archives?

2000-07-12 Thread Peter Scott
Is the Perl Advocacy mailing list archived anywhere? Sorry to bug the list, but less intrusive steps haven't proven fruitful. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Camel logo (was Re: Need some Help with Advocacy re: Java vs. Perl)

2000-06-30 Thread Peter Scott
At 02:27 PM 6/18/00 -0400, Uri Guttman wrote: and what about the other motto, duct tape of the internet? doesn't bring up any logo images to me. Then you're just not using your imagination :-) But I can't see any of the ideas it gives me being legal^Wuseful. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems

Re: Need some Help with Advocacy re: Java vs. Perl

2000-06-30 Thread Peter Scott
there are others who were also active in DECUS at the time with different opinions; this one just happens to be mine. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Teaching Perl

2000-05-28 Thread Peter Scott
May I suggest you repost this to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list? I do believe you're likely to find a lot more Perl trainers there. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

RE: Perl in the News

2000-05-25 Thread Peter Scott
nd so we just guess. But even then there are no absolutes; people are likely basing their guesses on the average expertise of the people around them where they work, and that varies from place to place. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Thoughts on maintaining perl

2000-05-25 Thread Peter Scott
were they doing that again???" flip, flip -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Thoughts on maintaining perl

2000-05-25 Thread Peter Scott
al friend who knew some Perl before my classes, was working with him and he said, "Okay, this isn't the way Peter would do it, but here..." and it failed... followed the principles I taught and it worked... -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: O'Reilly article: Why I Promote Python

2000-03-09 Thread Peter Scott
g to them :-( -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: O'Reilly article: Why I Promote Python

2000-03-08 Thread Peter Scott
arry, why would they be comparing themselves to Perl unless..." "... unless Perl is the best! I see what you mean, dear. I'll never stop using Perl." /TV_Commercial -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Software Carpentry contest

2000-03-01 Thread Peter Scott
to the ability to compile a Perl program into a binary, not perl itself. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Software Carpentry contest

2000-03-01 Thread Peter Scott
ould be a good topic for a BOF at a conference perhaps. I wanted to propose one for TPC3 but chickened out. If no-one more appropriate to the task does so for TPC4, then I can - does this sound like a good idea? (I won't be at YAPC unfortunately.) -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Software Carpentry contest

2000-03-01 Thread Peter Scott
is largely equated to "drunk assholes" outside of the Perl coommunity. Dang, some of the user groups must be having a lot more fun than mine... -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Software Carpentry contest

2000-03-01 Thread Peter Scott
At 10:21 PM 3/1/00 -0500, Chris Nandor wrote: At 16.29 -0800 2000.03.01, Peter Scott wrote: At 04:31 PM 3/1/00 -0500, Chris Nandor wrote: At 12.09 -0800 2000.03.01, Peter Scott wrote: Oops, that's the second time I've miscommunicated this point. I am referring to the ability to compile

Re: Results of Language Comparison Study

2000-02-29 Thread Peter Scott
"language level" of Perl was more than twice that of the next highest (personally, I disagree that the number for Tcl was a typo :-) -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Software Carpentry contest

2000-02-29 Thread Peter Scott
fig about they involvement or otherwise of Uncle Sam. -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies

Re: Software Carpentry contest

2000-02-29 Thread Peter Scott
g it in Visual Basic... -- Peter Scott Pacific Systems Design Technologies