Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Sure. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 7:38 PM, Jeremy Grip wrote: > >  > Matt- you have any time to take this offline and chat about your CBRS > experience tomorrow? > > From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 4:28 PM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Matt- you have any time to take this offline and chat about your CBRS experience tomorrow? From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 4:28 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors Absolutely nothing amazing. The worse clients

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Got it. I think that’s what I was trying to say. I trust it more coming from you—as far as I know, you’re not pushing Baicells LTE. ;o)> Just joking—I know that Rick’s a straight shooter. From: AF On Behalf Of Brian Webster Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 4:45 PM To: 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

I think vote by mail and scan them as they arrive is the way to go. That way when the polls close you have an immediate count. From: Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 2:38 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The whole punch card voting

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

IT not about more power. The difference in the reports RSSI from the CPE is based on the very narrow pilot signal, not the total received signal for the whole channel. I could never get the actual transmit power level of just the pilot signal from a manufacturer. The like to quote those magical

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

The whole punch card voting "system"  was doomed from the beginning. I remember using it when I lived in Santa Clara County  30 years ago or so. Even when you punched out a hole properly, the chads would sometime stick or hang on a corner. For quite some time now,

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Absolutely nothing amazing. The worse clients would suffer a bit while the good clients would excel. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 4:11 PM, Jeremy Grip wrote: > >  > I wonder what things would look like if I had 20 customers/sector and > connected a few clients down to -80 (rssi). > > > From:

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Re: Solar calculator?

At my larger solar sites where a 5-10A battery charger just isn’t enough, I have had good success with the Tycon 65V 1200W AC-DC power supply (PSVHP-65-1200) fed into a different MPPT controller, hooked to the batteries in parallel with the other PV controller. Into my 24V string, I generally

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

I wonder what things would look like if I had 20 customers/sector and connected a few clients down to -80 (rssi). From: AF On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 4:00 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors What people are saying

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What people are saying is the -100 RSRP is equivalent of -70 RSSI. It sounds impressive when you hear that LTE will work at -100, but in reality, it's roughly the same as something else working at -70, which really isn't impressive. The supposed magical nlos qualities of LTE really aren't all

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

There have been many election authorities already chiming in that recounts only account for a couple hundred votes _UNLESS_ there was a major screwup.   Most of the same said this was way to closely watched for a thousand vote error not to speak of something more.. On 11/8/20 10:02 AM, Bill

[AFMUG] Fwd: Re: Solar calculator?

This was supposed to go to the list.   So if anyone wants to chime in as to their method of charging these batteries when on A/C I would be interested.   On solar with morningstar there is a whole bunch of info on setting the morningstar up for what is believed to be the best, but for A/C I am

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Look at John McCain's concession speech. Class act .. very different from loser Trump. On Sun, Nov 8, 2020, 12:43 PM Bill Prince wrote: > There's a reason we've been celebrating Florida Man for the last 20 years. > And whether you do or don't like Gore, he was very gracious when it was >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

There's a reason we've been celebrating Florida Man for the last 20 years. And whether you do or don't like Gore, he was very gracious when it was called against him. bp On 11/8/2020 11:08 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Cambium is specifically selling the 450 product right now for CBRS to use in non los situations. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > >  > The lowest we will install a 450 CBRS is -70, same as LTE - no lower than > -100. Otherwise you’re asking for issues. > > The other

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

The lowest we will install a 450 CBRS is -70, same as LTE - no lower than -100. Otherwise you’re asking for issues. The other benefit for 450 is higher uplink power. LTE is limited to 23dB. Cambium 450 goes much higher. Finally, we have - as others pointed out - have had issues with trees

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Of course you can’t get your hands on the 450s now until sometime in 2021. From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 2:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors It’s not he ability to hold modulation through multipath changes.

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Really, Matt? Even Cambium officially says for foliage you need to go to LTE. How low a signal will you connect a 450B to? From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2020 2:07 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors It’s not he ability

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Thanks, Brian. I’m modeling with around 45dBm EIRP in a 20mHz channel for, say, an Airspan 1030; my understanding of the FCC EIRP limit. The radio should be able to push 33dBm into a KPP 15dBi sector. Very confused by the report That we achieve full mod at -100 RSRP. Are you saying that the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Gore could have been robbed but we will never know for certain. I am certainly willing to admit it was possible. I am glad we don’t have a hanging chad issue with this election. That was not a fun time of waiting. And it is good to remember Gore was exercising every option he had too.

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I think you’re going to want to avoid the situation where the tree(s) are very close to the customer. On the plus side you don’t have to search for a special high power CPE radio, a 450b will do fine. From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 1:07 PM To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Stop the vote in Pennsylvania but keep counting in Arizona. It’s a Maxwell’s Demon approach. Open the door when it helps me, close the door when it helps the other guy. That’s probably why the Supremes stopped the recounts in Bush v Gore, the Gore camp wanted to keep looking for errors

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

It’s not he ability to hold modulation through multipath changes. UBNT doesn’t have this. LTE does this but at the expense of lower modulations. Think 80 down and 6 up max for the sector. 450 is blowing that out of the water. 150 down and 60 up on the sector. Completely obscured. We have

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

I would not recommend Cambium 450 / CBRS if your main goal is foliage penetration in a densely forested town. It won’t magically penetrate dense foliage, and you may even have problems with a strong signal through just 1 or 2 trees when the branches blow in the wind. I am skeptical of the

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

It's still on Android 11, but you have to dig for it. It's buried several layers deep under SIM status. Something they've implemented is that you get into settings and search for something like "strength" to get Signal Strength, and it will take you to it.

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

You shouldn’t be installing horrible LTE signals (eg -110 or worse) anyway as the experience will be terrible. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 1:55 PM, Matt Hoppes > wrote: > >  > 450m or i. We’re deploying I with Omni on our micro sites. M on our main > sites. > > -100 in LTE is about -70 in 450.

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450m or i. We’re deploying I with Omni on our micro sites. M on our main sites. -100 in LTE is about -70 in 450. Plenty of SNR. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 1:51 PM, David Coudron > wrote: > >  > I will provide more detail when back in front of a computer but we tested a > few different things.

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Do easy to be cynical about nlos claims. We have heard so many over the years. From: David Coudron Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:50 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors I will provide more detail when back in front of a computer but we tested a few

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

I will provide more detail when back in front of a computer but we tested a few different things. We ended up doing Blinq Networks for a few reasons. The nonLOS was pretty impressive. More to come Get Outlook for iOS From: AF on

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

I miss the dbm readout on my phone. Apple killed it a few versions of IOS ago. From: Brian Webster Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:35 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors Remember RSRP values are going to be 30 db stronger than the signal you will

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Remember RSRP values are going to be 30 db stronger than the signal you will actually need to deliver bandwidth. While it’s easy to get excited when you see something working and the device says the signal level is say -100, that is the narrow pilot signal level the device is reporting which is

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

I assume you’re talking 450m. Problem is receive sensitivity here; 2/3 of clients through mixed hardwood and evergreen. The sensitivity down to -100 and below is what seems to point to LTE, it’s the only way to reach most of the client base. Besides that, there is nothing else up here except

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

In Michigan we're demanding a recount. In Wisconsin we're demanding a decount. In Georgia it's opposites day. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LmFVEi5Jd0 bp On 11/7/2020 8:27 PM, justsumname wrote: The declaration that Biden has

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

74 is what I am talking about, not 68. Every president gets a reality check when they get in the pilot’s seat. Things they said or did during the campaign turn out at times to be impractical or just plain wrong. Whether Nixon did it out of political expediency or desperation or because it

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

-100 would be full modulation on LTE. That being said please consider Cambium 450 - you’ll save yourself a ton of headache in the short and long run and have a better experience. > On Nov 8, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Jeremy Grip wrote: > >  > Thought I’d pick up this thread again because I’m

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendors

Thought I’d pick up this thread again because I’m looking hard at CBRS LTE for my densely forested town, largely because of its alleged foliage penetration. What’s anybody understand the EIRP limit for a 20Mhz channel to be now in CBRS 3.65? Can I assume that modeling RSSI in a tool like

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/02/us/politics/nixon-tried-to-spoil-johnsons-vietnam-peace-talks-in-68-notes-show.html On Sun, Nov 8, 2020 at 10:59 AM wrote: > Nixon ended the war. My dad hired hippies at the start of summer every > year in Oregon. Many of them were refugees from society

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

So it's too early for "Hail! Hail to Dorothy!" and "Ding Dong the witch is dead"? -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of fiber...@mail.com Sent: Sunday, November 8, 2020 11:14 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. It ain't over until the fat man

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

It ain't over until the fat man tweets.       From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. Technically it is premature.  Lots of steps and challenges left to go through.  Lots of certifications, then electoral college

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Technically it is premature. Lots of steps and challenges left to go through. Lots of certifications, then electoral college elections, then congress acting on the results. We are months away from Biden to be able to “technically” claim he won. Game is not over until the fat lady sings.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Nixon ended the war. My dad hired hippies at the start of summer every year in Oregon. Many of them were refugees from society believing civilization was coming to an end. They loved to debate politics with me as a young man. When they got down on Nixon I would just say he ended the war.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Bullshit On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 9:28 PM justsumname wrote: > The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't > really gotten started yet. > Judges don't hold court on the weekends. > > -- > > On Sat, Nov 7, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Yes good movie. >> More

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Nixon was intelligent, articulate and knew his shit. He did some positive things for the USA ...too bad he fucked it up. Trump is best summed up in one word.. Inept On Sat, Nov 7, 2020, 4:36 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Speaking of John Ford, you remind me of Gerald Ford who said "Our long >

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

This was completely expected. Under no scenario would have had Trump losing and acting in any other way. Born with a golden spoon in his mouth, surrounded his whole life by sycophants. Bullying to always get his way, belittling and denigrating anyone that he viewed as contrary to his

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

If trump and his supporters believe all the lies he's been spewing since Thursday, you have to get your head checked. Don't believe things without evidence. Trust no one, only yourself and your ability to fact check what people say. Fact checking trump's statements since Tuesday show he has lied

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

Could be a made-up story, but somebody on the TV told of encountering people in other countries who could recite John McCain’s 2008 concession speech word for word because it had been taught as an example of how democracy works. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Sunday, November 8,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

It would be the King Kong of conspiracies to pull off. Getting hundreds of thousands of poll workers to stay quiet and do a coordinated effort in (I think) thousands of local polling places. It blows the mind how that could happen. And like you said, there

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

For me, it's Andy Devine and Andy Griffith. They're both "Andy", and they're both a little bit country. bp On 11/7/2020 8:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I think I get him confused with Slim Pickens.  I will

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

In a case like this judges will work weekends and nights. I will be surprised if a single case gets accepted. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 8, 2020, at 6:53 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > > > From: AF On Behalf Of justsumname > Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 10:27 PM > To: AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?

Large stationary C.O. battery ratings are 80% dod. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 7, 2020, at 8:03 PM, Robert wrote: > >  But you want to only take a lead battery to 1/2 that to avoid decreasing > the longevity of them, so double the battery size and, if the batteries are > going to be

Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening..

From: AF On Behalf Of justsumname Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2020 10:27 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: The Silence is deafening.. The declaration that Biden has won is premature. This thing hasn't really gotten started yet. Judges don't hold court

Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?

Yeah, we are inclined towards Lithium From: AF Date: Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 11:03 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator? But you want to only take a lead battery to 1/2 that to avoid decreasing the longevity of them, so double the battery size and, if the

Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator?

Thanks Chuck! From: AF Date: Saturday, November 7, 2020 at 5:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Solar calculator? 30 watts * 24 *14 = approx 10 kWh. So you need a 10 kWh battery. 10 kWh/48 = 210 Ah 48 volt battery. Now, I have lotsa experience at my latitude and

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Its going to be on-grid, BUT we need to account for hurricane events where the power can be out for weeks. Lithium would be my choice. Gino Villarini Founder/President @gvillarini t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204