Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
The USF did do a lot of good. But its time has passed. Most ILECs took ACAM money to build out fiber everywhere. That program is coming to the end of its first phase. Supposedly all those ACAM companies will now be on their own, to compete in a straight up business model. But the prognosis

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread TJ Trout
Ideal scenario is getting an intrastate contract, don't assume if it's within the same state that they won't give you an interstate agreement! If you are stuck with the interstate agreement you can get exemption depending on some factors, but you might be breaking rules if you don't contribute dire

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
That makes more sense... From: TJ Trout Sent: Wednesday, August 30, 2023 5:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program Yikes, my mobile keyboard is going downhill fast; In almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport servic

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
We have our FUSF waived on our 10G/100G interstate links. It’s a pain, but it’s possible and worth the hassle. We have to justify our FUSF waiving each year with each carrier by filling out each carriers respective FUSF exempt form. I hit each carrier up each January for their new years exempt

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
Darn, your first message with the typo had me excited ☺ paying a ton of USF for 100G interstate links, would love to get around that some day as we turn up more its so much wasted cash. Would have been cool if these guys won https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/22-6000

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread TJ Trout
Yikes, my mobile keyboard is going downhill fast; In almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport service the > carriers will default to try to slip you and interstate agreement > regardless of the a/z termination points, if you are paying USF on > *intra*state > *transport* you probably

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread TJ Trout
Almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport service the carriers will default to try to slip you and interstate agreement regardless of the a/z termination points, if your paying USF on interstate private lines you probably should be, I may be able to assist on new orders if you are getti

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread Mark Radabaugh
I think you need to do a lot more research on the subject to really get a good answer. Short version: Collecting USF fees from customers is always optional. Paying USF fees is required for services that are subject to USF.There is a deminimus category where you don’t have to pay the fees

Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program

2023-08-30 Thread Peter Kranz via AF
I think so, but I’m looking for a confirmation from someone actually participating in it.. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: AF On Behalf Of TJ Trout Sent: