Ideal scenario is getting an intrastate contract, don't assume if it's within the same state that they won't give you an interstate agreement! If you are stuck with the interstate agreement you can get exemption depending on some factors, but you might be breaking rules if you don't contribute directly after getting the exemption.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 6:26 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote: > That makes more sense... > > > *From:* TJ Trout > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 30, 2023 5:17 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program > > Yikes, my mobile keyboard is going downhill fast; > > >> In almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport service the >> carriers will default to try to slip you and interstate agreement >> regardless of the a/z termination points, if you are paying USF on >> *intra*state *transport* you probably *shouldn't *be, and I may be able >> to assist on new orders if you are getting pushback from your reps. > > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:13 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport service the >> carriers will default to try to slip you and interstate agreement >> regardless of the a/z termination points, if your paying USF on interstate >> private lines you probably should be, I may be able to assist on new orders >> if you are getting pushback from your reps. >> >> On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 3:11 PM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think you need to do a lot more research on the subject to really get >>> a good answer. >>> >>> Short version: >>> >>> Collecting USF fees from customers is always optional. Paying USF fees >>> is required for services that are subject to USF. There is a deminimus >>> category where you don’t have to pay the fees (your upstream providers pay >>> them) but once you exceed deminimus you have to pay them yourself. >>> >>> Things subject to USF: phone service, voip service, private line >>> service, point-to-point data circuits, point to multipoint data circuits. >>> >>> Things not subject to USF: Internet service provided to a retail or >>> business customer >>> >>> There are a lot of caveats to the ’things subject to USF’ and the >>> lawyers can’t agree on what it is. USAC acts as judge, jury, executioner, >>> and pockets the money. The FCC occasionally weighs in and confuses things >>> more. >>> >>> I don’t believe you are required to be a 499 filer to participate in ACP >>> for broadband service. Not sure what it would have to do with anything. >>> >>> All of the above is worth exactly what you paid for it :-) >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Peter Kranz via AF <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I think so, but I’m looking for a confirmation from someone actually >>> participating in it.. >>> >>> Peter Kranz >>> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 >>> Mobile: 510-207-0000 >>> [email protected] >>> >>> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2023 7:21 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program >>> >>> I thought that internet service is USF exempt per ITNA/ITFA in >>> California? >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 4:06 PM Peter Kranz via AF <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Is anyone participating in the ACP? Did participation require you become >>> a form 499 filer and collect FUSF taxes from your end users? >>> >>> >>> >>> -Peter >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Thank you, >>> >>> TJ Trout >>> Volt Broadband >>> 209.480.3122 Cell >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> > > -- > Thank you, > > TJ Trout > Volt Broadband > 209.480.3122 Cell > > ------------------------------ > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband 209.480.3122 Cell
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