Yikes, my mobile keyboard is going downhill fast; In almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport service the > carriers will default to try to slip you and interstate agreement > regardless of the a/z termination points, if you are paying USF on > *intra*state > *transport* you probably *shouldn't *be, and I may be able to assist on > new orders if you are getting pushback from your reps.
On Wed, Aug 30, 2023 at 4:13 PM TJ Trout <[email protected]> wrote: > Almost every case I've seen for ptp or ptmp transport service the carriers > will default to try to slip you and interstate agreement regardless of the > a/z termination points, if your paying USF on interstate private lines you > probably should be, I may be able to assist on new orders if you are > getting pushback from your reps. > > On Wed, Aug 30, 2023, 3:11 PM Mark Radabaugh <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I think you need to do a lot more research on the subject to really get a >> good answer. >> >> Short version: >> >> Collecting USF fees from customers is always optional. Paying USF fees >> is required for services that are subject to USF. There is a deminimus >> category where you don’t have to pay the fees (your upstream providers pay >> them) but once you exceed deminimus you have to pay them yourself. >> >> Things subject to USF: phone service, voip service, private line >> service, point-to-point data circuits, point to multipoint data circuits. >> >> Things not subject to USF: Internet service provided to a retail or >> business customer >> >> There are a lot of caveats to the ’things subject to USF’ and the lawyers >> can’t agree on what it is. USAC acts as judge, jury, executioner, and >> pockets the money. The FCC occasionally weighs in and confuses things >> more. >> >> I don’t believe you are required to be a 499 filer to participate in ACP >> for broadband service. Not sure what it would have to do with anything. >> >> All of the above is worth exactly what you paid for it :-) >> >> Mark >> >> On Aug 30, 2023, at 11:20 AM, Peter Kranz via AF <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I think so, but I’m looking for a confirmation from someone actually >> participating in it.. >> >> Peter Kranz >> www.UnwiredLtd.com <http://www.unwiredltd.com/> >> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 >> Mobile: 510-207-0000 >> [email protected] >> >> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *TJ Trout >> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 29, 2023 7:21 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ACP - Affordable Connectivity Program >> >> I thought that internet service is USF exempt per ITNA/ITFA in California? >> >> On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 4:06 PM Peter Kranz via AF <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> Is anyone participating in the ACP? Did participation require you become >> a form 499 filer and collect FUSF taxes from your end users? >> >> >> >> -Peter >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> Thank you, >> >> TJ Trout >> Volt Broadband >> 209.480.3122 Cell >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- Thank you, TJ Trout Volt Broadband 209.480.3122 Cell
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