Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Zach Underwood
We pay $700 per month for a pair of dark fiber about 6km route from our data center to one of our sites both in downtown Atlanta from zayo. We run 40gbps 10km optics. On Fri, May 3, 2024, 11:04 PM Chris Fabien wrote: > We have seen an extremely wide range of prices for dark fiber leases, > it's

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Chris Fabien
We have seen an extremely wide range of prices for dark fiber leases, it's one of these things where every situation and provider is different. I have been quoted prices over $100/mo per strand-mile and as low as $15/mo/strand-mile. A lot of the value seems to be what they suspect you're going to

Re: [AFMUG] DWDM/CWDM Magic

2024-05-03 Thread Darin Steffl
For those of you who have dark fiber access, what kind of costs do you have? I'm thinking more of the cost to access these strands? IRU costs, lease, swaps with other providers, etc? I want some sort of ballpark costs to know what's reasonable when we start looking at this over wavelengths for

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I think if I was truly using for anxiety I'd be using one of the methods which doesn't involve smoking. At least at work. On Fri, May 3, 2024, 1:58 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > We caught him smoking out in the yard in one of our vehicles. He was > asked to find his happiness elsewhere. > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Robert Andrews
My cherry was broken by an IBM 370 ( a 360 that had been hand wired to virtual memory in 73 ) programming in Fortran. We also rubbed sticks together to make fire... On 5/3/24 10:51, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: First computer I actually programmed was an altair 8080 programmed with the front

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
We caught him smoking out in the yard in one of our vehicles. He was asked to find his happiness elsewhere. Best Regards, Chuck McCown McCown Technology Corporation 8401 N Commerce Dr Lake Point, Utah 84074 801-250-9503 Office 435-830-4306 Cell www.mccowntech.com www.microtrench.pro

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
OK, looking at it another way. Some people need meds to be normal. My son has a prescription for lisdexamfetamine because he has ADHD. He's not impaired, and it's not like he's a meth head.That said, I can see a problem if your employee wants to smoke a joint in the workplace. Bigtime

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Jan-GAMs
First I would ask for the Dr. to call me.  2nd I would suspend the employee until the Dr. calls me.  It could be a type of pot that doesn't impair but I wouldn't want to take the chance. Third, I'd find someone not impaired and have them do the job. Put the doper in charge of a broom until

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just Ken. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ru1LC9lW20Q From: AF On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 1:52 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot Is Ken a Ken? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Bill Prince
Oh yeah. My first interaction with a computer was at the local JC in northern Minnesota. We had a teletype that was connected to "something" at U of M in Minneapolis. We would punch out programs (I think in Basic or Fortran) onto paper tape, then feed the program through the paper tape reader

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Mike Hammett
Is Ken a Ken? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 11:21:21 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot My google-foo says it can be:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread David Hannum
Yeah Ken - same here. WATFIV (WATerloo Fortran IV) - punch cards - stacks and stacks . . . Ohio University - turnaround time was overnight . . . . Dave On Fri, May 3, 2024 at 1:29 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Haha, I see in my bookshelf a Fortran 90 book and a CD for DIGITAL Visual > Fortran. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
First computer I actually programmed was an altair 8080 programmed with the front panel switches. First computer I ever touched and played with was a terminal connected to a mainframe somewhere in a science museum in Oregon. It had a moon lander simulator on it. -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Some things we think as "new" aren't so new. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/telemedicine-predicted-in-1925-124140 942/ -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 12:24 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Bill Prince
I programmed the first computers I worked on in binary. You would fat-finger instructions in through the front console, one bit at a time. bp On 5/3/2024 10:12 AM, Larry Smith via AF wrote: On Fri May 3 2024 11:37, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: At least I am not older than FORmula TRANslation

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
Haha, I see in my bookshelf a Fortran 90 book and a CD for DIGITAL Visual Fortran. I think it was Fortran IV that we used in school, had to submit decks of punch cards and wait for the printout. You learned to code carefully when the turnaround time was several hours. From: AF On Behalf Of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Larry Smith via AF
On Fri May 3 2024 11:37, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > At least I am not older than FORmula TRANslation or Common Business > Oriented Language.   Hmmm, I programmed in both -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Darrin makes me think of Samantha oh, Samantha... From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:21 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot My google-foo says it can be: Kevin Ken Gary Terry but I like Darren too. bp On 5/3/2024 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: “I have a card”

[AFMUG] OT Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code

2024-05-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I am older than Beginner's All-Purpose Symbolic Instruction Code Damn. At least I am not older than FORmula TRANslation or Common Business Oriented Language. That would make me Really Old... ;-) -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Bill Prince
My google-foo says it can be: Kevin Ken Gary Terry but I like Darren too. bp On 5/3/2024 9:09 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: “I have a card” = entitled Karen (I forget the name for a male Karen, is it Darren?) *From:*AF *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF *Sent:* Friday, May 3, 2024 10:29 AM

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Ken Hohhof
“I have a card” = entitled Karen (I forget the name for a male Karen, is it Darren?) From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, May 3, 2024 10:29 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: ch...@go-mtc.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Pot I have always had employees that were in

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Bill Prince
Pot is legal in CA, but it's treated like alcohol. You can get a DUI for pot just as easily as for booze. I would treat it the same as alcohol, permission slip or not. There used to be an issue for pot in that it will stay in your bloodstream for quite a while; not sure how long but I seem to

Re: [AFMUG] Pot

2024-05-03 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have always had employees that were in rehab. But never had anyone using at work before this guy. He pointed to the fact he has a pot card for anxiety. I have a card in my pocket that says I am old enough to buy whisky too, but I doubt any employer would be OK with me sucking a flask while