Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far

2020-07-31 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/31/20 5:33 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: How is that smaller than the current building area of counties? Some of those areas are huge. PEA is a Partial Economic Area. https://www.fcc.gov/oet/maps/areas -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-07-31 Thread Ken Hohhof
It’s not, plus PEAs can cross state lines. You’re probably thinking of census tracts. From: AF On Behalf Of Matt Hoppes Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:34 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far How is that smaller than the current building area

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2020-07-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
P >> >> >> >> >> From: "Matt Hoppes" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 6:11:41 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far >> >> Pease size chunks are good right?

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2020-07-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
west Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Matt Hoppes" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 6:11:41 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far > > Pease size chunks are good righ

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2020-07-31 Thread Mike Hammett
ent: Friday, July 31, 2020 6:11:41 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far Pease size chunks are good right? That means I can get them cheap in the really rural area and may be less expensive in the metro area in the exact location I want to cover? On Jul 31, 2020, at 6:35 AM, M

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2020-07-31 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
;>> <https://bit.ly/BBoffer1> >>> www.aeronetpr.com <http://www.aeronetpr.com/> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite >>> 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 >>> >>> *From:*AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> on >>> behalf of Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp

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2020-07-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
.com>> on behalf of Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> *Reply-To:*AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Date:*Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:37 PM *To:*'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> *Subject:*Re: [AFMUG] Auction result

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2020-07-31 Thread Matt Hoppes
onetpr.com | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 >> >> From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof >> Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group >> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:37 PM >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aucti

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2020-07-31 Thread Mark Radabaugh
wisp.com>> > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Date: Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:37 PM > To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far > > They are repacking C-band

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2020-07-31 Thread Gino A. Villarini
ww.aeronetpr.com> | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968 From: AF on behalf of Ken Hohhof Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Thursday, July 30, 2020 at 11:37 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far They are repacking

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2020-07-30 Thread Ken Hohhof
They are repacking C-band to free up 3700-4000 “for 5G”. Does that mean not for us? From: AF On Behalf Of Kurt Fankhauser Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 9:48 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far If the SAS ends up working out really well

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2020-07-30 Thread Steve Jones
gt; >> >> It’s a very complex system that doesn’t do much if everyone is GAA. >> Other than give us some more spectrum, and do away with LBT (which sucked). >> >> >> >> *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones >> *Sent:* Wednesday, July

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2020-07-29 Thread Mark Radabaugh
nk they’ll give you a grant for whatever frequency you > want. > > PAL holders will probably need to work this out though. > > From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones > Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:08 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction

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2020-07-29 Thread Steve Jones
eve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 9:44 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far > > > > there are only 50mhz gaa, im talking about the other 100 operation without > pal > > > > On Wed, Jul 2

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2020-07-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
, July 29, 2020 9:44 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far there are only 50mhz gaa, im talking about the other 100 operation without pal On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 8:54 AM Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: With or witho

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2020-07-29 Thread Steve Jones
; > > PAL holders will probably need to work this out though. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2020 1:08 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far > > > > Is current S

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2020-07-29 Thread Ken Hohhof
: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far Is current SAS supporting SFG? if not, how will one reuse frequency now? On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 7:19 PM Mark Radabaugh mailto:m...@amplex.net> > wrote: There are several variants: Single Frequency Groups (SFG) are multiple CBSD’s that all o

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2020-07-29 Thread Steve Jones
herswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > -- > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Tuesday, Ju

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2020-07-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > From: "Matt Hoppes" >

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2020-07-28 Thread Mike Hammett
st Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Matt Hoppes" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:55:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far How does the SASI sure there will be no interference? Since

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2020-07-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
t;> Intelligent Computing Solutions >> >> Midwest Internet Exchange >> >> The Brothers WISP >> >> >> >> >> From: "Matt Hoppes" >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" >> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020

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2020-07-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
> > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Matt Hoppes" > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:55:27 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far > > How does the SASI sure

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2020-07-28 Thread Mike Hammett
uot; Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 4:55:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far How does the SASI sure there will be no interference? Since you can run so many different standards and settings? On Jul 28, 2020, at 5:03 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Yep, and anyone not operating

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2020-07-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
;>> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020, 12:06 PM Mike Hammett wrote: >>>>> Obviously the last round is public knowledge. After the auction is over, >>>>> are the results of all rounds public information? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>

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2020-07-28 Thread Steve Jones
om/ICSIL> >>>> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> >>>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>>> The Brothers WIS

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2020-07-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
x.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> >>> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >>> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >>> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >>> <https://www.facebook.

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2020-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> >> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> >> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> >> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> >> >> >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg&g

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2020-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Great list! Thanks! Looks like it's gotta be the big players for my county. Glad to see a lot of <20m companies on there, hopefully they can all get a return on that massive investment. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul

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2020-07-28 Thread Steve Jones
----- > *From: *"Mark Radabaugh" > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > *Sent: *Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:11:20 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far > > Correct - no way to tell who is bidding. The complete list of bidders

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2020-07-28 Thread Mike Hammett
baugh" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2020 11:11:20 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far Correct - no way to tell who is bidding. The complete list of bidders is public knowledge: https://www.fcc.gov/document/auction-105-35-ghz-qualified-bidde

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2020-07-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Correct - no way to tell who is bidding. The complete list of bidders is public knowledge: https://www.fcc.gov/document/auction-105-35-ghz-qualified-bidders Which counties those 271 bidders are bidding on is only known by

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2020-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
I assume the 14 or 15 bidders is a closely guarded secret? I can't begin to think who would be able to pay 30k around here for that besides Verizon/AT/Sprint... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 11:37 AM Mark

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2020-07-28 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Note that the confidentiality and anti collusion rules apply for anyone who filed the short form. Be very careful that what you say in here does not violate the FCC rules. Everything discussed so far is from the public information the FCC is releasing or from the auction public notice.

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2020-07-28 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/27/20 9:46 PM, Steve Jones wrote: What happens if there are unbid PALs? Nothing, it works like it does now as GAA. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-07-28 Thread David Williamson
ubject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far What am I looking at? Supply: 7 (means there are 7 PALs?) Agg Demand: 4 (means only 4 have been bid on?) Why would anyone bid up a PAL when there are other PALs available? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af

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2020-07-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
Also... several counties we operate in have 0 bids on any PAL. Seems odd. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-07-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
What am I looking at? Supply: 7 (means there are 7 PALs?) Agg Demand: 4 (means only 4 have been bid on?) Why would anyone bid up a PAL when there are other PALs available? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-07-28 Thread Cassidy B. Larson
It’s up to 37k per 10mhz block. Demand is going down though! lol Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 28, 2020, at 08:22, Josh Luthman wrote: > >  > No idea how to read this: > > > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > >

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2020-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
No idea how to read this: [image: image.png] Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:20 AM Kurt Fankhauser wrote: > Josh, > > Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block? > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh

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2020-07-28 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
Josh, Is your county up to 30k per 10mhz block? On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 10:08 AM Josh Baird wrote: > Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the initial rounds that > are taking place this week? > > Haven't really been keeping up with this. > > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam

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2020-07-28 Thread Josh Baird
Assuming it's too late at this point to get into the initial rounds that are taking place this week? Haven't really been keeping up with this. On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:54 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > I also lost track of the whole auction situation. Will there be another > round later? Seems

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2020-07-28 Thread Josh Luthman
Adam you're too late at this point, sorry =( My county is $30k now. There's no way I can front 30k cash for some protection that still leaves me open to the cloud going down. How do these companies throwing down $3m feel about all of their network disappearing for half an hour on a Friday

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2020-07-28 Thread Adam Moffett
I also lost track of the whole auction situation.  Will there be another round later?  Seems like nobody bid on some of the counties around us, and I wish I'd thrown in a minimum bid at this point. On 7/28/2020 12:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote: Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the

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2020-07-28 Thread Matt Hoppes
Anyone gets to use them. > On Jul 28, 2020, at 12:47 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > >  > What happens if there are unbid PALs? > >> On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:40 PM Steve Jones >> wrote: >> Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our 5 >> counties and 4 pals each.

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2020-07-27 Thread Steve Jones
What happens if there are unbid PALs? On Mon, Jul 27, 2020 at 11:40 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our > 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it > serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on

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2020-07-27 Thread Steve Jones
Our starting bid was relatively inexpensive over the ten year term for our 5 counties and 4 pals each. Almost had the boss talked into giving it serious consideration so i could pull the trigger on the auction. then the world ended and that got back burnered. byt the time we came back to it there

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2020-07-27 Thread Dave
My guess is none... Im sooo sick of the BS games the FCC and 'BIG BOYZ' Are playing. So funny how they say "Sure anyone can get a pal" FCC should have shoved a big FU to all WISPs and just let us die. When I first saw the pricing on our county and surrounding countys for bid I knew there was

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2020-07-27 Thread Gino A. Villarini
augh Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Date: Monday, July 27, 2020 at 6:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Auction results so far Aggregate demand of 38 licenses? That’s at least 10 bidders fighting over one county. I’m guessing it’s just bidders playing

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2020-07-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
Aggregate demand of 38 licenses? That’s at least 10 bidders fighting over one county. I’m guessing it’s just bidders playing games.Pick a county with a lot of demand and pile on. It’s a safe place to park a bid that you know you can get out of. Going to suck if it’s a county you

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2020-07-27 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/27/20 15:42, Mark Radabaugh wrote: https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 I'm curious to see how many WISPs actually get a PAL when this is all done. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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2020-07-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
I heard it I heard I I heard it on the X On Mon, Jul 27, 2020, 4:48 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Central location and relatively flat terrain. With enough power, they can > cover the whole country. > > > bp > > > > On 7/27/2020 3:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: > >

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2020-07-27 Thread Bill Prince
Central location and relatively flat terrain. With enough power, they can cover the whole country. bp On 7/27/2020 3:42 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 Not sure

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2020-07-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
https://auctiondata.fcc.gov/public/projects/auction105 Not sure what the fascination with Calhoun County, IA is. Mark-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com