[AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Nate Burke
Do I remember reading somewhere (possibly on this list) that because of the way that MIMO Works, you can have a 45 slant antenna on one end and a V/H antenna on the other end and there is no signal loss? I want to upgrade a Link; Rocket with a 2' dish (V/H) to Powerbridge, to a set of AFx

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread Bill Prince
Yes. new topic. I _LOVE_ corn on the cob. We had some too along with some very nice salmon. Good friends. Good food. Oh... And I learned about a "better way" to grill corn on the cob. It's a multi-step process, but it looks like you can simplify the silk removal process, and also get that

Re: [AFMUG] One Program To Rule Them All.. ?

2018-07-05 Thread Carl Peterson
We use Netsuite. Not sure if I'd recommend it if I were starting again. My general issue with it is that we have frequently built the network to Netsuite instead of the other way around, and don't have real database access to it so things that make sense from an ontological perspective can't

Re: [AFMUG] G.8032v2 or ERPS ring with 10G wireless links

2018-07-05 Thread Mark Radabaugh
We run a lot of EX3300 -48V DC switches at tower sites along with Ciena 3903 switches. Someone mentioned a concern about Juniper switches in uncontrolled environments. We keep them in a variety of cabinets but do not closely control temperature on them and have not had any issues with

[AFMUG] Buying IPv4 due diligence

2018-07-05 Thread Carl Peterson
Short of manually checking blacklists, it there any semi-easy way to check the history of an IP block? i.e to see everyone who has advertised it or a subset of it via BGP? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

[AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
We are actually in production this week on these things. After a year of prototype and beta unit shipping we finally found the time to get it going. I know there are a lot of people waiting. We have AF11X to Remec actually shipping. Dragonwave and Andrews VLP are right behind it. Then

[AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Sam Lambie
I am looking at being cheap while going long today. We currently have a 32 mile 5ghz rocket link with a 29dbi antenna and a the 34dbi antenna on each end. We get about 20 mbps fdd out of the link and I am looking at the epmp 1000 connectorized gear to replace it for slightly better performance. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT Homemade fireworks

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
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Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Is it, though? I don't think those guys get paid all that much, given that they're a dime a dozen. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jaime Solorza" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Definitely not. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: af@af.afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, July 4, 2018 11:56:50 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing Tower climbers

Re: [AFMUG] One Program To Rule Them All.. ?

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
I had corn on the cob yesterday... first time in 18 months due to my diet... Wait... is this considered a new topic??? From: Mike Hammett Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 10:11 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] One Program To Rule Them All.. ? Please start a new e-mail

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
Anymore I (my wife actually) just toss them husk and all in the oven @ 350. About an hour or less if very fresh. Comes out with that nice smokey flavor and no work. Let the person eating shuck it. -Original Message- From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 10:41 AM To: AFMUG

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters

2018-07-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Duplexors in high demand Jaime Solorza On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 10:47 AM wrote: > We are actually in production this week on these things. > After a year of prototype and beta unit shipping we finally found the time > to get it going. I know there are a lot of people waiting. > > We have AF11X to

Re: [AFMUG] One Program To Rule Them All.. ?

2018-07-05 Thread Steve
No problem programming or making some of our own tools. We've already considered making our own intermediary API server to be the glue between the systems. I'm just curious to see what you'd all do out there in this situation or if anyone has gone through these growing pains (and what they

Re: [AFMUG] Buying IPv4 due diligence

2018-07-05 Thread Mike Hammett
There's no way to check blacklists that eyeball networks would care about. They're mostly internal to Hulu, Netflix, Akamai, etc., etc. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Carl Peterson"

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread Bill Prince
This is the recipe. Instead of cilantro-lime butter, we use garlic infused butter. bp On 7/5/2018 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Anymore I (my wife actually) just toss them husk and all in the oven @ 350. About an hour or

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
I wouldn't say there is no signal loss, but the white paper I read indicated that the circuit is able to extract information from both antennas and combine it in such a way that the SNR does not suffer. -Original Message- From: Nate Burke Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 10:32 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Rory Conaway
There are several options that will be an improvement over the Force 200’s for this. The Mimosa C5c can hit as much as 500Mbps or more depending on the quality of the link for $130 per radio. Rory From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Sam Lambie Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
Hungry now... From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:02 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob This is the recipe. Instead of cilantro-lime butter, we use garlic infused butter. bp On 7/5/2018 9:48 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Anymore I (my wife actually)

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread Joe Novak
Yeah, I would say it's low. I've heard of 70k+ a year for guys that can head a job. Starting out may be more like $20-25/hour. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Is it, though? I don't think those guys get paid all that much, given that > they're a dime a dozen. > > > >

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Sam Lambie
Have you done any long links with these guys? Is there a planning tool for Mimosa? On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:41 AM Rory Conaway wrote: > There are several options that will be an improvement over the Force 200’s > for this. The Mimosa C5c can hit as much as 500Mbps or more depending on > the

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Sam Lambie
I found the planning tool and it looks good to me. How do you like the Mimosa c5c's as a backhaul? On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 11:41 AM Rory Conaway wrote: > There are several options that will be an improvement over the Force 200’s > for this. The Mimosa C5c can hit as much as 500Mbps or more

Re: [AFMUG] OT any autocad experts here?

2018-07-05 Thread Colin Stanners
I've got experience in other CAD software (not AutoCAD) - could it be that the layer is turned off just on that sheet? On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 2:18 PM, wrote: > I have somehow got a reference raster image (that is visible in the model) > turned off in a sheet in paperspace. > > I can create a

Re: [AFMUG] OT any autocad experts here?

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
Layers are on. I created a new sheet and have the raster. I vaguely remember discovering a way to turn it off several months ago but I did not make a note of it. I can create a new sheet easily enough. Just bugging me that I cannot find the hidden knob. From: Colin Stanners Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Chucks surge modules

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
https://www.mccowntech.com/product/rack-mount-100-mbps-ethernet-surge-protectort/ ? -Original Message- From: Mark - Myakka Technologies Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:12 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Chucks surge modules Looking for some of those surge modules to go into

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread Robert Andrews
We had wonderful grilled corn on the cob with our fourth dinner last night. And I made my first Brisket!!! Ok, should that be a new topic... After all one of the things I learned about cooking Brisket is that Brisked cookers are insane! Robert On 07/05/2018 09:41 AM, Bill Prince wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Verizon Email to SMS Gateway failures

2018-07-05 Thread Nate Burke
Hmm, I've been using it for years and never have run into any limitation problems. Even when there's a loose power cable somewhere and 100 SMS alerts come through in a couple minutes. The last couple days have not been heavy on alerts. Just this afternoon I got an SMS at 2pm, missed one at

Re: [AFMUG] AF11x to whatever adapters

2018-07-05 Thread Richard Strittmatter
Just FYI, We had an old Trango Link with the heavy 4footers way up in the air die the other week, and Thanks to Chuck, we got it back up quickly with AF11x radios! ( yes we changed the licenses... ) His remec to AF11x Adapters worked great! Richard Strittmatter Cirra Networks. From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
Brisket is good when half cooked in a smoker and then finished off by wrapping in heavy duty saran wrap, then foil, then in the oven for overnight at 275 degrees. Falls apart juicy and a bit smoky. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 11:46 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread Justin Wilson
Our Daily rate varies from $600-2500 a day. $600 is pretty rare. Most of the time it is in the $1000+ range. Factors in the daily rate: 1.Insurance. This is the biggest cost we have on the tower side. Many companies require 3Million in liability, with some now requiring 5 million.

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
This is right in line with what I was expecting/hoping for. I am not understanding or really believing the “legal requirement” of a 4 person crew. Several that have quoted this job said OSHA requires 4 people any time there is climbing. I just don’t buy that. If this is true, would

[AFMUG] OT: Verizon Email to SMS Gateway failures

2018-07-05 Thread Nate Burke
Over the last couple days I've had alerts failing to be delivered to my cell phone. I'm using the num...@vtext.com gateway. My mailserver shows that from the SMTP Side they have been sent and accepted, but the SMS never comes through. I notice it when storms roll through, and I get an alert

[AFMUG] OT any autocad experts here?

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
I have somehow got a reference raster image (that is visible in the model) turned off in a sheet in paperspace. I can create a new viewport and see the raster. Some kind of viewport property I presume but it sure has me stumped. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
What would you add on for drive time/mobilization? From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 12:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing This is right in line with what I was expecting/hoping for. I am not understanding or really believing the

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Verizon Email to SMS Gateway failures

2018-07-05 Thread Dennis Burgess
Usually Verizon and other providers limit that function to a small amount of emails. Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net

Re: [AFMUG] Tower climbing

2018-07-05 Thread Mike Hammett
Can nine women make one baby in one month? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 2:33:40 PM Subject:

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Colin Stanners
IIRC the Canopy 450 platform does not do the phase combining/differencing that allows to go from -+90deg to -+45deg antennas without signal/discrimination loss, as we did such a test on 900mhz 450I platform and saw half the speed when one end was rotated 45deg. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:29 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread chuck
I agree, just match them and then it doesn’t matter if the radio does the fancy stuff or not. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, July 5, 2018 3:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic Yeah, that works with any wifi based radio, and Canopy, but I

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Chris Fabien
We had a 26 mile ePMP 1000 ptp link running for about 4 years. Overall it worked well, we got about 70 Mbps throughput. We did see ducting fade occasionally on calm summer mornings but the radio type is not going to change that. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:12 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > I am looking

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread Chuck McCown
Yep smoked chicken, smoked brisket and al pastor enchiladas. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 5, 2018, at 9:27 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > It's the cheese plus sauce my wife makes from scratchdoes Jenny make > enchiladas? Maybe I can get recipe..on the sly > > Jaime Solorza > >> On Thu,

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
It seems to me that you're always better off matching them, unless you have a good reason not to (like, say, if both antennas were already on the towers). On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:45 PM, wrote: > I agree, just match them and then it doesn’t matter if the radio does the > fancy stuff or not. > >

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Chuck Macenski
Nate, Don't go there. Make both antennas either V/H or Slant. Chuck On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 7:11 PM Chris Fabien wrote: > We recently ran into this exact situation with AF5X-HD radios. 3ft dishes > with H/V on one end and 45 Slant on the other end. I tried to switch the > H/V antenna to Slant,

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Mathew Howard
The Canopy 450 platform definitely is able to do it. I've been told that by people from Cambium who would know, and tested it myself. It may not have always had that feature, but it is there in the newer firmware. On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 4:38 PM, Colin Stanners wrote: > IIRC the Canopy 450

Re: [AFMUG] Mimo Antenna Magic

2018-07-05 Thread Chris Fabien
We recently ran into this exact situation with AF5X-HD radios. 3ft dishes with H/V on one end and 45 Slant on the other end. I tried to switch the H/V antenna to Slant, it looked at first glance like it had provision to do both but the bolt holes didn't actually line up. However I did monitor

Re: [AFMUG] Long PTP link with epmp.

2018-07-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
Oh...I don't know the equipment... thanks Jaime Solorza On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 9:24 PM Mathew Howard wrote: > Yeah, but that's a B5c, not a C5c... 300mbps is easily possible with a > B5c, but you wouldn't use those if you're doing it on the cheap. > > On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 10:11 PM Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] corn on the cob

2018-07-05 Thread Jaime Solorza
It's the cheese plus sauce my wife makes from scratchdoes Jenny make enchiladas? Maybe I can get recipe..on the sly Jaime Solorza On Thu, Jul 5, 2018, 3:03 PM wrote: > What a tease... > > *From:* Jaime Solorza > *Sent:* Thursday, July 5, 2018 2:56 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users