Less interference = less errors.
It has nothing to to with absorbing or suppressing surges.
-Original Message-
From: Seth Mattinen
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 5:35 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mimosas surge doesn't help 450
On 10/9/18 4:21 PM, Chuck McCown
My gut tells me 2 conflicting things about licensed links.
On the one hand, I've learned over time not to cheap out on them. They are
critical infrastructure that last for years and require minimal attention after
the initial design and build. Do it right the first time, and plan them for 5+
Yeah, but the thing about not cheaping out is that you can buy link now for
$4k that you would have had to spend closer to $20k for the equivalent of
not that many years ago... of course that doesn't really apply to antennas,
since you should be able to re-use the same dish in most cases.
On Wed,
Whose GPON are you using?
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11. Overall very few
problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had
IPTV? Run away, run away!
From: Chris Fabien
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 6:51 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Active E on the cheap
We have about 200 FTTH customers installed on FTC11. Overall very few
problems. Fiberstore BiDi SFPs. We have occasionally had
I bitched at length about Ubiquiti's claims for AF11 in the past.
The thing I realized is that while their spec sheet numbers are
inconsistent with the rest of the industry, they're consistent with the
rest of the Ubiquiti ecosystem. They've chosen to be self consistent.
I still think
That makes me a happy man.
On 10/10/2018 12:44 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
You can use colored optics and a splitter.
-Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, October
10, 2018 10:39 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Dumb Fiber MUX
question
Can I use a splitter
Actually, modulation(s) / loading is a required data element of the PCN. The
FCC application requires all modulations / bit rates to be listed, and they
license these by polarization and direction so there is absolutely no need for
“aggregate rates”. The FCC also requires a certification from
I'm going to be pulling the trigger on dual stack pretty soon. You're
scaring me a little.
I would think the major CDN's are dual stack by this point. I'm not
sure if it matters, but whose DNS were you using? It could be that the
v6 DNS took you to a less optimal data center than the v4
I haven't rolled IPV6 out to customers yet, but I am running Dualstack
at my house. Native IP6 with my own ARIN Space. I've noticed that
streaming traffic, youtube, netflix, Playstation VUE, Facebook, seem to
prefer the IP6 connection. This morning I was having all kinds of
Buffering
You can use colored optics and a splitter.
-Original Message-
From: Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 10:39 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Dumb Fiber MUX question
Can I use a splitter instead of a Mux/Demux?
I'm just thinking if I have color coded SFP's
I have my Own DNS servers, without a full time packet sniffer, how would
you ever figure out what actual DNS lookup it did to find the host?
Middle of the day, even a less optimal data center shouldn't be at
capacity. The Wife said she was watching VUE on a different TV in the
house
Authoritative DNS is under the control of the content provider, it shouldn't
matter whose resolver you are using, unless the content provider is using
something like anycast DNS which might infer from the IP address of the
resolver which A and records you should see. As long as your DNS
The minimum gain / beam width in 11 GHz requires a 2.6’ or 3’ minimum dish
size. All Jirous antennas regardless of size only meet Category B.
Also, on radio changes - if everything is the same (emission designator, EIRP,
frequency tolerance, etc.) this change would be classified as a minor
You are easily made happy. Wait, is "colored optics" code for rose-colored
glasses?
-Original Message-
From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:57 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Fiber MUX question
That makes me a happy man.
On
Yeah, people a lot of those fanboys assume that everybody does it that way,
because the numbers look pretty similar to UBNT's then... some of them also
ignore the fact that the AF11 is using both polarities when they're
comparing to other radios.
I'm pretty sure that the only 11ghz radio that's
I use a product that humiseal. Works great. You just brush it on.
I prefer the rubber version. They make spray versions too and all kinds of
different formulations.
http://www.humiseal.com/products/
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 7:41 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Yeah, AF11 radios can only use up to a 56mhz channel, but as I understand
it, the signal is messy enough that it has to be licensed as 80mhz... I
guess you can look at that as an advantage of keeping that full channel
clear.
I was wondering if you had to go through the whole coordination process
Can I use a splitter instead of a Mux/Demux?
I'm just thinking if I have color coded SFP's that only talk and listen
on their own wavelengths, and assuming I'm ok with the losses from
splitters, then do I actually need a Mux?
I'm looking at a scenario where I could have a Mux at one end of a
I’m a bit annoyed that Liz puts “1.3 Gbps aggregate throughput” on the PCNs she
coordinates. It’s a nit, but a frequency coordinator should not be influenced
by marketing. I also suspect at least some customers think they are getting
the same capacity as other 80 MHz XPIC radios on the
One worry of course is that if someone can’t coordinate a link due to your use
of Cat B antennas, they can force you to upgrade to Cat A. I’m not saying I’ve
worried a lot about that, but I would worry more if I was in a more urban area.
Re-using antennas sometimes works, it depends on the
Could it be that consumer routers see less ipV6 traffic, so undetected
bugs are more likely in the V6 stack on those routers?
If it's a goofy router that won't stop you from getting the call, but it
means you might have an answer.
On 10/10/2018 12:43 PM, Nate Burke wrote:
I have my Own DNS
Sorry, Optics that are differently wavelengthed...
-Original Message-
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 11:07 AM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Fiber MUX question
You are easily made happy. Wait, is "colored optics" code for
The B11 is 256QAM, dual polarity.
Rory
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Hardy
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
According to the latest AF11 data sheet, they do not list 128 QAM as
And 99.95% (three and a half nines) means it could fall below this about 4.5
hours per year according to rain fade model.
Of course, rain models seem optimistic unless you are a climate change denier.
From: AF On Behalf Of Tim Hardy
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:03 PM
To:
We've had the same problem with the 450M. Last I heard, Cambium is still
trying to diagnose the root cause.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 3:09 PM Vlad Sedov wrote:
> Thanks for the info, Ken. I think there's a pressure equalization vent
> on the medusa, but not 100% sure.
> We're about to leave for
Well, I can some some of them listen to different wavelengths or else NG-PON
would never work.
But a CWDM mux is pretty cheap.
-Original Message-
From: fiber...@mail.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:41 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Dumb Fiber MUX question
Can I
Correct, and as far as I know these are still not being coordinated or licensed
for anything other than the original modulations. Difficult to go back and
change already licensed facilities, but there’s no excuse for paths that were
coordinated and licensed after the firmware update. They are
On the dual Radio Bridgewave, it will support discontiguous 80MHz channels.
Rory
From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tim Hardy
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 12:03 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Bridgewave Navigator
According to the latest
I don't think it's quite like that, more of this:
https://www.marketscreener.com/UBIQUITI-NETWORKS-INC-9155775/news/UBIQUITI-NETWORKS-INC-Change-in-Directors-or-Principal-Officers-form-8-K-27228786/
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 2:40 PM wrote:
> Guess he doesn't like us anymore sniff
>
>
I don't has specific experience with the 450m, but based on various other
radios through the years, the silicone may not be a good idea.
What sometimes happens is temperature changes cause pressure or vacuum
inside the sealed enclosure, and when there's a vacuum, it will suck air
and/or moisture
Thanks for the info, Ken. I think there's a pressure equalization vent
on the medusa, but not 100% sure.
We're about to leave for wispapalloza, and hopefully I'll be able to
corner a Cambuim guy there and see what can be done.. lol
cheers
Vlad
On 10/10/2018 2:53 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I
That was his dad Benjamin.
bp
On 10/10/2018 12:55 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
Does he own a paint company?
From: AF
On Behalf Of Joe
Novak
Sent: Wednesday, October 10,
or was it his sister Kelly?
bp
On 10/10/2018 12:55 PM, Ken Hohhof
wrote:
Does he own a paint company?
From: AF
On Behalf Of Joe
Novak
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018
According to the latest AF11 data sheet, they do not list 128 QAM as an option
so 256 QAM would be required. I’d have to research the B11 and don’t have time
right now..
Sent from my iPad
> On Oct 10, 2018, at 2:47 PM, Mathew Howard wrote:
>
> So, if I'm calculating that right, that would
Seems to be a lot less to haul around!
On 10/10/2018 12:37 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
My son built me a new hydraulic ramp for our lowboy.
Before and after.
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New ramp and beaver tail is probably an extra ton to haul around.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:56 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT project
Seems to be a lot less to haul around!
On 10/10/2018 12:37 PM,
> Can I use a splitter instead of a Mux/Demux?
Not to separate wavelenghts.
> I'm just thinking if I have color coded SFP's that only talk and listen
> on their own wavelengths, and assuming I'm ok with the losses from
> splitters, then do I actually need a Mux?
SFPs have broadband light
Guess he doesn't like us anymore sniff
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From: mailman-boun...@af.afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:17 PM
To: af-ow...@af.afmug.com
Subject: AF unsubscribe notification
ben.mo...@ubnt.com has been removed from AF. (web confirmation)
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Might be better to squirt the RJ45 full of DC4?
bp
On 10/10/2018 12:30 PM, Vlad Sedov wrote:
So we had to climb one of our towers today to deal with a sudden
intermittent ethernet issues with a Medusa that's less than a year
old. We did just have a pretty good storm and were fearing the
It is. The yellow one is a full width hydraulic ramp.
Much better than those old bent up single ramps that you had to lift by
hand.
-Original Message-
From: Robert Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 3:27 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT project
Oh, the yellow
That's another interesting thing... the AF11 didn't originally support
128QAM, but they did add it in newer firmware (as well as 512QAM, and maybe
some others that I'm forgetting). I suppose you're really not supposed use
that without updating the license to reflect the new modulations, but the
So we had to climb one of our towers today to deal with a sudden
intermittent ethernet issues with a Medusa that's less than a year old.
We did just have a pretty good storm and were fearing the worst.. When
the weather coupling on the cable got removed, a bit of water poured
out, and the
Does he own a paint company?
From: AF On Behalf Of Joe Novak
Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 2:42 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Interesting
I don't think it's quite like that, more of this:
Oh, the yellow one looked larger than the black double...
On 10/10/2018 02:05 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
?
New ramp and beaver tail is probably an extra ton to haul around.
-Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, October
10, 2018 2:56 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject:
Nope .. moving on to other gig...
Jaime Solorza
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 1:40 PM wrote:
> Guess he doesn't like us anymore sniff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mailman-boun...@af.afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2018 1:17 PM
> To: af-ow...@af.afmug.com
> Subject: AF
The problem isn't getting the SFPs to "listen" to different wavelengths. The
problem is that SFPs "listen" to ALL the wavelenghts.
This is why you have to use a demux to separate the wavelenght, so that you
only "listen" to the one meant for you. Alternatively you can use a filter to
block
Um so that would be After and Before as I got the yellow ramp above the
black one... answer to my confusion..
On 10/10/2018 02:45 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
It is. The yellow one is a full width hydraulic ramp.
Much better than those old bent up single ramps that you had to lift by
hand.
Ha ha. I have the new one. You don't...nany nany boo boo
Jaime Solorza
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 6:26 PM Mathew Howard wrote:
> That's a poor excuse to not like us anymore...
>
> ok, to be fair, I suppose he won't have that email address anymore.
>
> On Wed, Oct 10, 2018 at 5:29 PM Jaime Solorza
No, why do you ask? We had an order of maybe 50 ONU last month and have a
gpon card on the way right now, hopefully.
Chris
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 9:52 PM Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
> Are you having supply issues with the ZTE gear?
>
> On Wednesday, October 10,
I keep telling fanboys on Facebook his Ubnt exile is cause he's going to
jail and offering him advice on avoiding shawshank Andy status. Probably
that didn't help.
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 7:31 PM Jaime Solorza
wrote:
> Ha ha. I have the new one. You don't...nany nany boo boo
>
> Jaime Solorza
>
With fs raising prices across the board because of "tariffs" is there a
stateside manufacturer or non China sourced vendor with similar post
"tariff" across the board increase pricing?
Anybody know of any in the pipe vendors? Preferrably originating product in
cuba?
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In other rumours
Has anyone heard some noise about changes in the makeup and/or existence of
the airfiber team at ubnt?
On Wed, Oct 10, 2018, 12:40 PM wrote:
> Guess he doesn't like us anymore sniff
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mailman-boun...@af.afmug.com
> Sent: Wednesday,
They just seem to have been taking a lot of heat, I can't say for sure
whether it is deserved or not.
On Wednesday, October 10, 2018, Chris Fabien wrote:
> No, why do you ask? We had an order of maybe 50 ONU last month and have a
> gpon card on the way right now, hopefully.
>
> Chris
>
>
> On
We tested the UBNT gear back when it first came out. Didnt like their
management system and they changed the temp rating on the ONU to only 0C
which killed a key benefit being able to switch existing wireless customers
using existing cat5 run.
Happy with ZTE. The ONUs the various models seem to
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