Now they have a PTMP System announced. As with the B5 it sounds fantastic.
MuMimo and a 20db CPE with 500+ Mbit/s.
But still not heard from a sucessful installation of B5 and my ordered test link
is not on it's way. My distributor did not get a single unit so far.
Did you guys not listen and read the presentation screen? Beta units
shipping over next few weeks and and pre-order links shipping in December
for backhaul line.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
Ahhh found it. Did not press the Pre-Order button.
This is realy something I did not expect: They announce Systems with Horn
antennas.
A quite different approach. Their sectors are directional antennas so coverage
is not as good
as with traditional antennas (Their marketing argues the opposite). But horn
antennas
should have very low
No. My information for backhaul line comes from my distributor and said
he should have first devices 3 Weeks ago. This information is 4 Weeks old.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Darin Steffl via Af
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2014 09:45
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re:
Hardware is in the US and has been for 2 months or so. They're refining
software to be as stable as possible before launch. I'd rather have a solid
performing product than something buggy that we're stuck with while they
fix it. Now I at least still have my money and no product while they work
to
@10 miles we're getting 290/150Mbps with 40/20 channels on an AF5
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 7:01 PM, Jaime Solorza via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
No. Uvo mucha lluvia y vientos fuertes pero no fue la tormeta de
desmadre...
That is street talk for mayhem with f___ked undertone.
Jaime Solorza
On
So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation?
-Ty
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:04 AM, Chuck McCown via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Angle is pretty much solely dependent upon gain. So a typical horn is
about as good as the best patch array or a smaller parabolic reflector.
But they are
For anyone curious the rundown is on their site already. It looks slick as
hell but that doesn't mean much.
http://simper.rfelements.com/
-Ty
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation?
-Ty
On Wed, Oct
On 10/15/14, 7:06 AM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote:
So you're saying this is more marketing than innovation?
When I hear horn antenna I think ATT Long Lines sites.
~Seth
Which product are we talking about? The one that looks like a dish has a patch
array inside the cover.
From: Ty Featherling via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 8:06 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
So you're saying this is more marketing than
We deal with this by using either SFQ or, preferably, Procera. SFQ is free,
works pretty well in most cases.
-- Original message--From: Kade Sullivan via AfDate: Mon, Oct 13, 2014
2:18 PMTo: af@afmug.com;Subject:Re: [AFMUG] How to deal with constant customer
internet
Nice point
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
On 10/15/14, 11:03 AM, Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
The 30 Degree has 18dBi. They use the -6db at the edge calculation.
They are quite small so it may be possible to
The pattern is not like a normal sector it opens wider at elevation.
Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Gino Villarini via Af
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 15. Oktober 2014 16:28
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Rflelements announcement
I thinkt he innovative thing here is
I would argue that higher gain is more important if you are using DFS
frequencies...
I can definitely see situations where these would make sense though, but I
think the ones in the 30-60 degree range are probably more interesting than the
90.
From: Af
Depends on the application. If you are in an urban area and your
customers are within a mile, there will be little difference. With the
dropoff, f/b, and no lobes, I'd take this over a standard dual-polarity
sector. And since I install in residential areas with aesthetic issues,
no shield kits.
True, in that case, higher gain really isn't necessary, so that would be a good
application for these.
But in 5.8ghz, you can somewhat compensate for the lower gain with higher Tx
power at the CPE... that isn't an option with DFS, which is my reasoning for
higher gain being more important
Yep, if you want to truly follow the regulatory restrictions on EIRP at both
ends, receive gain at the AP is likely to be the limiting factor. Ideally the
antenna gain should be the same at both AP and CPE when you are not allowed to
use transmit antenna gain at the CPE end to increase EIRP.
Torque converter antenna?
On 10/15/2014 9:11 AM, Ty Featherling via Af wrote:
For anyone curious the rundown is on their site already. It looks
slick as hell but that doesn't mean much.
http://simper.rfelements.com/
-Ty
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 9:06 AM, Ty Featherling via Af af@afmug.com
For those deploying 2.4ghz ePMP with GPS enabled how is it working?
What is the latency like? Is PPPoE and NAT available in the SM yet?
They're cheap, buy one.
PPPoE and NAT have been there ever since I bought my first in February.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Matt via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014
It's all Mikrotik hardware\software under it as well.
What do you mean the coverage isn't as good?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday,
I do love their waveguide-type connector. I also love their waveguide adapter
for existing dual SMA type radios (Rockets, etc.). No coax to deal with.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Stefan Englhardt via Af
I look at it more for dense deployments where you have subs right up to the
tower. Something that goes maybe 2 or 3 miles out at most. They have 30, 40,
50, 60, 70, 80 and 90 degree antennas.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original
It has a round pattern like a directional antenna. A Sector usualy has a
smaller elevation and a broader azimuth.
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Stefan Englhardt Email: mailto:s...@genias.net s...@genias.net
Dr. Gesslerstr. 20 D-93051
Maybe your distributor needs to check with Mimosa when Mimosa sends out
multiple page e-mails laying out why everything is the way it is and when to
expect it.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Stefan Englhardt
Right, they shouldn't be calling it a sector. It's not.
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Stefan Englhardt via Af af@afmug.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:30:47 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG]
It works but with PPPoE/NAT the only management access is via PPoE IP
address. NO separate management IP.
Steve
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 1:06 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP w/GPS
For
It works but with PPPoE/NAT the only management access is via PPoE IP
address. NO separate management IP.
Steve
Thats not very convenient.
For those deploying 2.4ghz ePMP with GPS enabled how is it working?
What is the latency like? Is PPPoE and NAT available in the SM yet?
We're getting these New Session messages quite often on a new PTP450
installation.
Everything else looks real peachy. SNR varying between 32 and 35, Rcv
power ~~ -59; almost equal V/H ratio, etc.
Any idea what it's trying to tell me? Is this a problem? Session timer
keeps getting rest
Sure sounds like a problem to me.
Out of curiosity, what do you have the target signal level from SMs set to on
the AP? And as an experiment, if you drop the AP xmt power something like 3-6
dB, does it have any effect on the symptom? Cambium says –59 isn’t too hot,
but I wonder.
Also, what
This is 5.8 GHz. We set the timing on the AP to match the co-located
PMP450 APs that are operating nearby (both physically and on nearby
channels).
There is no setting on the BHM to auto-adjust power.
This is what the Link Status looks like right now. Maybe the uplink is
a little
The other issue is p2p traffic between two people on the same AP and
if you are doing bandwidth shaping in your router, even at the tower,
you will never see these packets. Or in the case the original poster
asked about, that customer could keep a high-def window open of all
their video
That’s the old tech. There was a big gov’mint contract not too long ago where
they upgraded to Pentium 60MHz chips and 16MB of RAM for their database
handlers. I’m guessing the issues are related to learning the new gear.
-Tim
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of That One Guy
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife ‘cuz Trango trying to sell crapware again.
-Tim
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof via Af
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango coming back to unlicensed pmp/ptp with ACbased
system
Are they
State of the art.
Must have cost us a pretty penny.
- Original Message -
From: Timothy D. McNabb via Af
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:25 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 477 deadline
That’s the old tech. There was a big gov’mint contract not too long ago
Trango’s comin’, hide your heart girl
From: Timothy D. McNabb via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:26 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Trango coming back to unlicensed pmp/ptp withACbased system
Hide yo kids, hide yo wife ‘cuz Trango trying to sell crapware again.
-Tim
Couple questions (I am not familiar with the PTP version, only the PMP)...
1. Are you using GPS timing? If so, are you loosing sync or getting sync
errors?
2. Is either side on a hot tower or near a hot tower? If so, have you
checked that your grounding is good? We had a PMP450 that would
As others have said, put the two locations on different subnets. That
will get around the issue. You could also segment using Vlans which
would allow you to retain DHCP if you use DHCP. We always have Isolation
enabled. We happen to use a few vlans to further segment the traffic and
if a
Thank you all for the assist, we will be moving one of the locations to a
separate subnet. Much appreciated.
--
Christopher Tyler
MTCRE/MTCNA/MTCTCE/MTCWE
Total Highspeed Internet Services
417.851.1107
- Original Message -
From: Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. via Af af@afmug.com
To:
Which is why you should use Canopy's QoS.
On 10/15/2014 3:14 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
The other issue is p2p traffic between two people on the same AP
and if you are doing bandwidth shaping in your router, even at the
tower, you will never see these packets. Or in the case the
We don’t have that exact scenario, but you could monitor or throttle through a
router (Mikrotik) or use the SM QOS to help mitigate that (somewhat)
-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 4:14 PM
To:
Travis, are you getting bored at your current job? Lol!!
Great to see you active in the list!
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
On 10/15/14, 4:14 PM, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
The other issue is p2p traffic
Most addiction recovery programs tell you to not hang around with the same
crowd...
-Original Message-
From: Gino Villarini via Af
Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:16 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SM Isolation question
Travis, are you getting bored at your current job?
Three Dog Night. ..nice one Ken
Jaime Solorza
On Oct 15, 2014 2:32 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Trango’s comin’, hide your heart girl
*From:* Timothy D. McNabb via Af af@afmug.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, October 15, 2014 3:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]
It just depends on the day... :)
Involved in 11 companies now, and looking at a 12th. Always stuff going
on. LOL
Travis
On 10/15/2014 3:16 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:
Travis, are you getting bored at your current job? Lol!!
Great to see you active in the list!
Gino A. Villarini
Someone told me you were getting into manufacturingŠŠ
Gino A. Villarini
President
Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp.
www.aeronetpr.com
@aeronetpr
On 10/15/14, 5:31 PM, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
It just depends on the day... :)
Involved in 11 companies now, and looking at
Better ways to skin this cat to be honest.. The UBNT firewall reduces radio
performance.
I suggest to use SM isolation for on the same AP isolation.
and switch port protection to avoid DHCP leakage to another AP on the same VLAN.
Peter Kranz
Founder/CEO - Unwired Ltd
I've cranked the output power on the slave from 22 down to 18. It's
started to drop the SNR from ~~ 34 down to ~~32 at this point, and I'm
not sure I want to go too much lower, as I think I will start to lose 8X
modulation. Still getting -62V/-62H at the master, which translates to
-59
With a 410 SX what blade is everyone using to do cat-5 and fiber drops?
Arrgh, cannot get *45 toggle queue login to work. No voice prompt. Extension
does not appear in queue.
Static agents work just fine. Everything else works just fine. Voice prompts,
IVR, voicemail etc etc. Just having zero luck with dynamic agents.
Any suggestions.
Knocked the power down to 15/14 dBm (14 dBm on the slave, 15 dBm on the
master). They no longer maintain 8X modulation, and the download
throughput is down from ~~56 Mbps to ~~44 Mbps. So we are losing link
quality, and the NewSess messages are still occurring at about the same
frequency.
We've been sitting on a Performant Mind and four Nurons for almost a year now.
They sat for six months, then I spent another six months tinkering with them
here and there. Regardless of their EOL, we're looking to implement - but I'm
running into the silliest of issues. I can't even get traffic
We use a case maxi sneaker with a 2ft chute blade to do fiber drops. Very
nice machine.
On Oct 15, 2014 6:53 PM, Matt via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
With a 410 SX what blade is everyone using to do cat-5 and fiber drops?
Is the *45 getting to the server, or is the dialplan in the voip
appliance trying to interpret it locally?
On 10/15/2014 6:25 PM, Chuck McCown via Af wrote:
Arrgh, cannot get *45 toggle queue login to work. No voice prompt.
Extension does not appear in queue.
Static agents work just fine.
They must be testing implementation of their new 5GHz rules.
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:23 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:
I heard there were some routers in west virginia that might could connect
that gear.
- Original Message -
*From:* Timothy D. McNabb via Af
Yeah, SaaS is great for the company that owns it, not so great for everyone
else.
On Wednesday, October 15, 2014, Travis Johnson via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
Nope... mainly SaaS companies and real estate. Best of both worlds. :)
Travis
On 10/15/2014 3:40 PM, Gino Villarini via Af wrote:
True story.
___
Mangled by my iPhone.
___
Tyler Treat
Corn Belt Technologies, Inc.
tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.commailto:tyler.tr...@cornbelttech.com
___
On Oct 15, 2014, at 10:30 PM, Jason McKemie via Af
Bill,
The log you send is completely normal for Canopy PTP products. This is a “Keep
Alive Request Time Out” (KAREQTO) set after the backhaul slave sends a keep
alive packet to the backhaul master. The backhaul master immediately responds
with a Keep Alive Response (KARSP), which is logged as
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