[AFMUG] Another Observium Meltdown on Reddit

2015-06-04 Thread Steve
http://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/38dvh9/my_experience_with_observium_management/ Looks like Adam Armstrong after burning his bridges with all the WISPS went on another irc rage. He ticked off another person not more than a month later. He posted his chat logs to /r/networking in

Re: [AFMUG] Another Observium Meltdown on Reddit

2015-06-04 Thread Lewis Bergman
And yet there seems to be some enjoying watching it and keeping it alive. On Jun 4, 2015 7:29 PM, Steve li...@wavedirect.org wrote: http://www.reddit.com/r/networking/comments/38dvh9/my_experience_with_observium_management/ Looks like Adam Armstrong after burning his bridges with all the

Re: [AFMUG] Another Observium Meltdown on Reddit

2015-06-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I like the guy. He doesnt stroke anybodys cock on stuff, If its not going to happen, he says so, leaving zero chance that there is any miscommunication of his intention. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Lewis Bergman lewis.berg...@gmail.com wrote: And yet there seems to be some enjoying

[AFMUG] itelite SEC3.65XP/5D dual band panels. anyone use them?

2015-06-04 Thread Vlad Sedov
Hey folks. Looking at some 3.65/5GHz panels from IT Elite, the SEC3.65XP/5D -- xpol 3.65, and standard dual-pol 5GHz. Does anyone have any experience with this particular model? Any feedback would be appreciated... cheers, Vlad

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
Because uric acid neutralizes the pathogens. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/4/2015 4:00 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: But it appears urinal cakes are also made from paradichlorobenzene, why do they not require a warning? Because they are in little cages?

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
Absolutely not. I want it to be effective when I choose to use it... Uh... I mean, no, never, that's horrible. - Original Message - From: Lewis Bergman To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios I poison my

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
we got flagged on an insurance audit for not having msds. We didnt know we had chemicals. The auditor didnt knw what chemicals we had, just that we needed the msds sheets On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:20 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: Because uric acid neutralizes the pathogens. bp

Re: [AFMUG] 444APC labeled HV

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Baird
It's probably just 100meg. We got sent a bunch of these from Streakwave on accident once. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:46 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Does this mean it's a GIGEAPC-HV or one of the 100 meg cards? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] 444APC labeled HV

2015-06-04 Thread Sean Heskett
444 is 100mbps only and it's compatible with canopy FSK/450 APs and epmp On Thursday, June 4, 2015, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Does this mean it's a GIGEAPC-HV or one of the 100 meg cards? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
I did not know mothballs were poisonous. I guess grandma shouldn’t have let us play with them in her closet. What about urinal cakes, should I tell the employees to stop eating those? From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 4:35 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Problems

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
But it appears urinal cakes are also made from paradichlorobenzene, why do they not require a warning? Because they are in little cages? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urinal_deodorizer_block From: Daniel White Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 5:52 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

[AFMUG] 444APC labeled HV

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Does this mean it's a GIGEAPC-HV or one of the 100 meg cards? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Daniel White
I’d be worried about OSHA and having MSDS sheets on file. Mothballs could be the same situation. Poison in any form seems like an unnecessary risk to your employees and company. Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
What if you put a warning label on a tupperware box with mothballs? Are you in the clear? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I’d be worried about OSHA and having

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Lewis Bergman
I poison my employees on a regular basis. Doesn't everyone? It build their tolerance. On Jun 4, 2015 4:10 PM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: I’d be worried about OSHA and having MSDS sheets on file. Mothballs could be the same situation. Poison in any form seems like an

Re: [AFMUG] 444APC labeled HV

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Awesome thanks Sean. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: 444 is 100mbps only and it's compatible with canopy FSK/450 APs and epmp On Thursday, June 4, 2015, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Connectorized w/ IT Elite cPAT24019dual?

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Everything 2.4 ePMP and/or ITelite seems to very meh. The enclosures aren't bad but I'm getting better signal penetration with 5.1 than 2.4 on ITelite antennas. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:35 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] 444APC labeled HV

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I've been ordering the GIGE ones but I'm not sure if they're labeled as such. Does anyone have a picture they can confirm works with gig? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 5:35 PM, Josh Baird

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Daniel White
By no means am I an OSHA or MSDS expert. More or less just pointing out something that could be a concern. OSHA only applies to the workplace though… so just keep your mothballs at home :-D Daniel White (303) 746-3590 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread George Skorup
The PTP450 is just an SM. Does it even support powering the UGPS? I don't know, I don't have any PTP450s. On 6/4/2015 10:55 AM, Matt wrote: Right now for PTP450 we are using parasitic syncpipe. Creates more connections to fail though. I would really like just the RJ11 plug from syncpipe to

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
Anyfing u wnnt On Jun 4, 2015 3:39 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:Given Steves reputation, Im not sure what were talking about re: $46 for 20 holes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange

Re: [AFMUG] Tall J-mount

2015-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
I've never seen a J-mount that I would trust to hold an AF24... does anyone make a tall 2 J-mount? On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:27 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote: The biggest one is the DS-3000. But holding an AirFiber24, I doubt it unless you have lots of reinforcement and you use

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
Yep me too, I have a few poignant questions. Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:12 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: If you discover you are Jesus, I want to schedule a performance review. *From:* That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Reynolds
Hahahahahahaha On Jun 4, 2015 5:00 AM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys, Running into a strange problem with LinkPlanner. I have a couple of exisitng 5GHz links I'm looking at replacing with a licensed solution - one of which is about 27 miles. According to LinkPlanner

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread David
+1 I use stuff like that around the house.. On 06/04/2015 11:59 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: granular poison Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com mailto:m...@mailmt.com wrote: Ryan, I've

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
PTP450 only supports timing via the timing port. What we've done with them is a dedicated SyncPipe Parasitic. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/4/2015 11:37 AM, George Skorup wrote: The PTP450 is just an SM. Does it even support powering the UGPS? I don't know, I don't have any PTP450s. On

[AFMUG] ePMP Connectorized w/ IT Elite cPAT24019dual?

2015-06-04 Thread Christopher Gray
Any experiences using the new IT Elite cPAT24019dual 19 dBi panel with ePMP? Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Daniel White
That is the beauty of the West. Actually in many cases 11GHz outperforms 6GHz out here. Rain fade is low, so multipath fading is the bigger concern. Once you hit Central USA (say East of the Rockies) rain fade increases to the point that is no longer true most of the time.

[AFMUG] Ants in Antennas Problem Image Working Now

2015-06-04 Thread Ryan
I apologize for the third email, I am still figuring out posting on the Animal Farm list! We are having problems with ants taking up a nest inside of our radios, has anyone come across a good solution of sealing the antennas up to keep them out? I attached a picture to this message since it was

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread Matt
Right now for PTP450 we are using parasitic syncpipe. Creates more connections to fail though. I would really like just the RJ11 plug from syncpipe to radio. Maybe he could even down size the pipe itself. On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 6:30 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I asked Forrest

[AFMUG] Problems with Ants Taking Nest in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Ryan
We are having problems with ants taking up a nest inside of our radios, has anyone come across a good solution of sealing the antennas up to keep them out? I attached a picture to this message since it was not coming up correctly embedded in the email. I know that we can get some ant spray to

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
If you discover you are Jesus, I want to schedule a performance review. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 10:07 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies Ive been growing my hair to find out if Im jesus or not. If it turns

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Rory Conaway
Just an idea. We are using about 3 of these a week and expect to increase that to about 5 shortly. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 4, 2015 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies In

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
You can always ask yourself “What would that One Guy Steve do?” Maybe get a WWTOGSD bumper sticker or tshirt. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 11:12 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies If you discover you are Jesus, I want to

Re: [AFMUG] Ants in Antennas Problem Image Working Now

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
The only part that they could really bother is the copper port. Put some dielectric grease in there maybe? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:12 PM, Ryan bearma...@fourway.net wrote: I apologize for the

Re: [AFMUG] Ants in Antennas Problem Image Working Now

2015-06-04 Thread Ryan
Thanks for all of the suggestions, I am going to look them all over and start trying them this week! Ants are definitely our biggest problem due to mounting antennas on poles in trees. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Glen Waldrop Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 12:29 PM

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
are you getting the connectorized performance gains within fcc eirp? Ive come to find a good majority of field test results are invalid solely because the tests are not performed legally On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:27 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: On the SM side, we did not try

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Ive been growing my hair to find out if Im jesus or not. If it turns out I am, I will put that on my list after getting a robe and sandals On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: In theory I can, but just have to strengthen my faith about 5% more *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Mark - Myakka Technologies
Ryan, I've heard a mothball would work. The well guys do taht around here to keep them out of the well controllers. We are going to start trying in with our outdoor fiber units. Not sure if it will interact with the plastic. -- Best regards, Mark

Re: [AFMUG] Ants in Antennas Problem Image Working Now

2015-06-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
Dielectric grease works, I was going to recommend Vasoline on the entrance, around the inside and on the cable right where it enters. We've got Argentine ants here. We have to go as far as putting automotive grease on electrical lines coming in, lines run to lamp posts, network cable, coax,

[AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Ryan
We are having problems with ants taking up a nest inside of our radios, has anyone come across a good solution of sealing the antennas up to keep them out? This is what we are dealing with: Ryan Fourway.net

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I wonder if we can move the Rockies... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com wrote: That is the beauty of the West. Actually in many cases 11GHz outperforms 6GHz out

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Not loading for me Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:51 AM, Ryan bearma...@fourway.net wrote: We are having problems with ants taking up a nest inside of our radios, has anyone come across a good solution

Re: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 Ti problem

2015-06-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
Got it. Disabled Airsync. - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop To: af@afmug.com Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:56 AM Subject: [AFMUG] Rocket M5 Ti problem I'm working with another WISP that is having an issue with a Rocket M5 Ti XW hardware. We've got Nanobridge

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
In theory I can, but just have to strengthen my faith about 5% more From: Josh Luthman Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:52 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies I wonder if we can move the Rockies... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct:

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
I want that shirt!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote: You can always ask yourself “What would that One Guy Steve do?” Maybe get a WWTOGSD bumper sticker or

Re: [AFMUG] Ants in Antennas Problem Image Working Now

2015-06-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
put mastic around the cable entry, will be pita to change radios, but youll be changing radios less often On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: The only part that they could really bother is the copper port. Put some dielectric grease in there maybe?

Re: [AFMUG] Problems with Ants in Radios

2015-06-04 Thread Jaime Solorza
granular poison Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 10:14 AM, Mark - Myakka Technologies m...@mailmt.com wrote: Ryan, I've heard a mothball would work. The well guys do taht around here to keep them out of the well controllers. We are going to

Re: [AFMUG] Ants in Antennas Problem Image Working Now

2015-06-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
Actually, spray on belt dressing would probably do the trick and take less time than grease. Assemble the unit, spray the entrance with belt dressing. It will stay there for a long time, stay sticky and the ants generally will avoid it. - Original Message - From: Glen Waldrop

[AFMUG] Rocket M5 Ti problem

2015-06-04 Thread Glen Waldrop
I'm working with another WISP that is having an issue with a Rocket M5 Ti XW hardware. We've got Nanobridge M5 for all other shots. We're getting 60-70Mbps through each link. The Ti on tower 3 gets 60Mbps+, the Ti on tower 4 gets average of 12Mbps throughput. -54 signal, -104 noise, 270-300

Re: [AFMUG] Static Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-04 Thread Edward Brooks
Thats what I thought. We currently have outdoor grade Shireen STP-CAT5e to all APs.Looks like for this project, moving the 2/4s below the top, adding the surge arrestors at the top, and adding the aerial will help until we budget for a complete ( or 1 x 1) swap of cabling and ground straps for

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Paul McCall
On the SM side, we did not try connectorized 3.65 450 SMs. In our past experience with 320s, the SMCs used with a KP Performance 3.65 feedhorn reflector got less results at times for NLOS shots then a standard SM. It was explained to me that is because it’s not a “need more power, burn

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
In the interest of science, be interesting if you could include the number of beers you have had prior to each email each day. I hypothesize that your vocabulary and alcohol consumption have a certain correlation. Just a simple number at the beginning or end. 7, 9, 18... The high numbered

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
The drill doctor has a masonry bit mode. Although, I don't think they need a super-sharp edge to work. It's like they mainly just beat there way through the material. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/4/2015 5:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Rotary hammer bits have carbide tips and should do a lot

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
29 miles and 4 footers? Sweet!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 11:18 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: We have a 29 mile shot using 11ghz and 4 foot dishes. It's currently a dragonwave but we are

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread Chuck McCown
Once upon a time, I was in a vo-tec program for tool and die makers that was a feeder school for Boeing. One of our first subjects to study were twist drills. There are multiple faces on a twist drill as relief areas called the rake. Moreover the angle of the point varies with the material.

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Sean Heskett
We have a 29 mile shot using 11ghz and 4 foot dishes. It's currently a dragonwave but we are switching to SAF integra 2+0 gigabit link this summer. Path calcs show four 9's+ uptime. We are in NW CO. 2 cents On Thursday, June 4, 2015, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: Hey guys,

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Ben Royer
Paul, Thanks for the response. More specifically I’m interested in the SM side of the test, as we too are using the Cambium Antennas at the AP. However, at the SM side, I’d recommend a NLOS test using a connectorized radio with a higher gain antenna. We’ve seen some initial NLOS tests where

Re: [AFMUG] Tall J-mount

2015-06-04 Thread Rory Conaway
The biggest one is the DS-3000. But holding an AirFiber24, I doubt it unless you have lots of reinforcement and you use some kind of anchor glue at the base. We use them with PowerBeam-400s but unless 4-5 bolts anchor really well, we add at least 1 of the braces. Rory -Original

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I avoid the list after drinking, that used to result in offlist spankings. The tapered bits i should have clarified were the ones for a regular drill, i hate that the one ring always dulls out. I was just professing my love for the rotary hammer. I get to use mine in the basement this weekend to

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Mathew Howard
Under the old rules - if I understand right, we'll eventually have to register existing stuff with an SAS, but nothing has really changed for now. You can keep operating under the old rules until some time in 2020. On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 2:31 AM, Paul McCall pa...@pdmnet.net wrote: OK, but

Re: [AFMUG] powering a Mimosa B5 integrated with GigE-APC-POE

2015-06-04 Thread Sean Heskett
This particular site is solar and that's why I needed to power it with DC using the GIGE-POE-APC On Wednesday, June 3, 2015, Stefan Englhardt s...@genias.net wrote: We start using the netonix miniswitches. We power them with the mimosa brick and power mimosa/epmp/mikrotik with the switch.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Paul McCall
OK, but under what rule set, for how long before you have to comply with the new rules coming out? From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, June 03, 2015 9:51 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using You can still add new 3.65 AP

Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer

2015-06-04 Thread Paul Stewart
I have slightly over 60TB of RAID5 storage on NAS’s at home that are replicated to cloud storage offsite ;) From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015 10:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 18 USB drives on 1 computer There's a

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread George Skorup
I know, but the UGPS is powered from the timing port from a 450 AP. Or you can run it on its own dedicated power supply. What I don't know is if the current SM hardware's timing port supports UGPS powering. I'm remembering no for some reason, which is yet another reason why we said screw the

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
Sorry, I've never used a UGPS, so I am not familiar with the details. You should be able to find out by just plugging a UGPS into a vanilla SM. I don't seem to recall any power supplied to the timing port? bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/4/2015 11:59 AM, George Skorup wrote: I know, but

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread Matt
I know, but the UGPS is powered from the timing port from a 450 AP. Or you can run it on its own dedicated power supply. What I don't know is if the current SM hardware's timing port supports UGPS powering. I'm remembering no for some reason, which is yet another reason why we said screw the

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread George Skorup
Yep, there is. At least on the 450 hardware. On 6/4/2015 2:11 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I don't seem to recall any power supplied to the timing port?

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
UGPS is around ~~ $235. Much more expensive than a SyncPipe. Is it possible to run a SyncInjector from a UGPS? If you could, then you could consolidate GPS timing into one unit. Right now we're using separate SyncPipes for PTP450 and PMP450 that are on SyncInjectors (when colocated). bp

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread Bill Prince
So I have learned ;-) bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 6/4/2015 12:27 PM, George Skorup wrote: Yep, there is. At least on the 450 hardware. On 6/4/2015 2:11 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I don't seem to recall any power supplied to the timing port?

Re: [AFMUG] Forrest Christian talks Synchronization with you

2015-06-04 Thread George Skorup
OK, I guess if it has UGPS power control in the GUI, then it works. Cool. On 6/4/2015 2:21 PM, Matt wrote: PTP230's and PTP450's both support UGPS, its right in config to enable or disable it.

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread George Skorup
We had the exact same results. Bare SM worked better than reflector through trees. And it actually worked pretty good, got about 24x7Mbps linktests. That was until the trees started blowing in the wind, linktests were all over the place. Then it got worse, the trees got wet and the test SMs we

Re: [AFMUG] Static Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Should have specified: Superior Essex BBDGe with the copper clad steel armor. That spec sheet includes unarmored cables also. You can get similar products from Mohawk and Belden. I've also never done it that way. For a lot of reasons I like rigid metallic conduit up the tower. You can't

Re: [AFMUG] powering a Mimosa B5 integrated with GigE-APC-POE

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Hammett
It'll be nice when everyone has SFPs... - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us To: af@afmug.com Sent: Wednesday, June 3, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] Static Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-04 Thread Adam Moffett
You wouldn't use the ground kit with a foil shield. You'd get an outside plant cable with armor on it. Example: https://objects.eanixter.com/PD327279.PDF On 6/4/2015 12:31 AM, Edward Brooks wrote: How does it go on without nicking that thin foil? Is there a tool for the Cat5? I looked at the

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
Rotary hammer bits have carbide tips and should do a lot more than 20 holes. I don’t resharpen them but it should be possible. The downside is they are really poor at going through wood or any material other than masonry, you need to switch to a regular bit for that. Even in a hammer drill,

Re: [AFMUG] Sharpening Drill Bits

2015-06-04 Thread Mike Hammett
Given Steve's reputation, I'm not sure what we're talking about re: $46 for 20 holes. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest Internet Exchange http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: That One Guy /sarcasm

Re: [AFMUG] Static Nearby Lightning Issues

2015-06-04 Thread Ken Hohhof
+1000 on everything in your second paragraph. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 6:30 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Static Nearby Lightning Issues Should have specified: Superior Essex BBDGe with the copper clad steel armor. That spec sheet includes unarmored cables

[AFMUG] Tall J-mount

2015-06-04 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Where is the best place to get tall J-Mounts that can hold an AirFiber 24 or a full height sector? I don't need them in quantity, just a few for now. I got some 25 ones from Streakwave, but they are too short for a full height sector and I don't know how much I trust them to hold an AirFiber

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Josh Luthman
Doesn't the 820 bond channels and such? I guess two 80s for that kind of throughput? 27 miles is going to be 6 footers in 6 GHz. You need a certain threshold of uptime for licenses. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jun 4, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Ben Royer
What antenna are you using in your testing of the 450 vs. 320 NLOS? I’m just curious because this is an interesting report, as we have a network of around 2,500 320 customers, and we are in the same position of looking for that next great thing. Thank you, Ben Royer, Operations Manager Royell

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Rory McCann
You can specify channel size and 1+0, 2+0 etc in the link description. Also LinkPlanner lists the minimum uptime threshold and if you fail to meet it the link becomes red. Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net On 6/4/2015 8:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Doesn't the 820 bond

[AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Rory McCann
Hey guys, Running into a strange problem with LinkPlanner. I have a couple of exisitng 5GHz links I'm looking at replacing with a licensed solution - one of which is about 27 miles. According to LinkPlanner this shot should be no problem (granted not with more than 3 9s of uptime, which is

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Hardy, Tim
I would guess that SAF's calculations are based on Vigants-Barnett and your LinkPlanner results used ITU-R. You can toggle LinkPlanner to Vigants-Barnett in the Project Properties window. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Rory McCann Sent: Thursday,

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Adam Moffett
An assertion made on the forum by somebody from Cambium was that the 450 in 3.65ghz wouldn't hit as many of the hard to reach places as the 320 did, but that you would end up with higher throughput on the ones that did work. On 6/4/2015 9:10 AM, Ben Royer wrote: What antenna are you using

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Daniel White
Rory, Sometimes our engineers in Latvia are not the best at communicating expectations. Of course with no fade, our equipment, just like any other manufacturers, will deliver max capacity. The question is one of availability. We don't engineer three 9's links unless specifically told to, and

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium LinkPlanner and Licensed Frequencies

2015-06-04 Thread Daniel White
Right but you also need to specific capacity, which is a common error I see in LinkPlanner files sent to me. I suspect we are not comparing 1024QAM modulation to 1024QAM modulation. Josh is also right. 6GHz and 11GHz have uptime requirements that have to be met along with utilization

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Paul McCall
Ben, The testing was based on using the standard Cambium antenna, respectively, for both platforms. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ben Royer Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:11 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using What antenna are you

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Adam Moffett
Were you using a reflector on the 450SM? On 6/4/2015 9:30 AM, Paul McCall wrote: Ben, The testing was based on using the standard Cambium antenna, respectively, for both platforms. Paul *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ben Royer *Sent:* Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:11

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Paul McCall
With or without…. Made like difference. Sometimes the reflector made no different and on occasion made it worse depending on the densities of the trees. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, June 04, 2015 9:36 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] 320 series - still using

2015-06-04 Thread Paul McCall
I want to clarify… ALL of my statements regarding the 450 or discussion of the 320 in these scenarios is for challenging NLOS environments. For those using 3.65 simply because it is a cleaner spectrum, the 450 is a clear winner. Paul From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul