Re: [AFMUG] 6 fiber breakout cable..

2015-07-14 Thread Peter Kranz
Makes sense.. We are fusion splicing our own splice on connectors however.. so don’t want anything pre-terminated. -PK

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
Winter. Is that the season without storms? Starting to sound good. -Original Message- From: George Skorup Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 11:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended Yes, getting stuck in FreeRun is one of the issues. The other is

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-14 Thread Ken Hohhof
I assume you had it on both (the default), not short, before the switch? I will give that a try, shouldn’t be any downside I don’t think. I’m wanting to try stuff that has worked for other people, not random stuff. From: Mike Hammett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 9:52 PM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 6 fiber breakout cable..

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck McCown
Corning unicam works very well. No splicer needed. From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 1:45 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 fiber breakout cable.. Might look at the fast connect connectors, they are mechanical...cheap from China...works very well on 2-3mm. We've used a

Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in. -Original Message- From: Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, July 13, 2015 3:16 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] dumb pole question There's a longish span with an existing phone trunk on

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Correct. It was on both. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 5:14:00 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

Re: [AFMUG] 6 fiber breakout cable..

2015-07-14 Thread Adam Moffett
I used to use mechanical connectors like 3M Crimploksimilar to Unicam. Do those contain an index matching gel like a mechanical splice does? If so, don't they wear out in a few of years as the gel degrades? On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: Corning unicam works very well. No

[AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
We are supposed to have a heat index thats pretty high today. when I was doing commercial roofing I about killed two punks because I pushed them harder when they started whining, I didnt know it had hit something like 105 on the thermometer, so this heat index thing was probably pretty high. do

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Water. Be reasonable on your workload. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jul 14, 2015 10:43 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: We are supposed to have a heat index thats pretty high today. when I was doing

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Sean Heskett
For us that is a safety issue and if the guy doing the work feels like it's an unsafe condition then the work stops. Same as if it's too windy to climb a tower or too cold in the winter. My guys aren't wimps tho and they'll usually keep going past when I think it's safe and tell them to quit

Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question

2015-07-14 Thread Adam Moffett
The PUC regulates the fees, and yeah technically they would have to pay some trivial amount per year. I don't think I'll fret over it for one pole. On 7/14/2015 10:54 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you an attachment fee? If the

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-14 Thread George Skorup
I have a RB751 at home. My Moto X's wireless likes to just stop passing traffic. I log in and see a bunch of deauths and key timeouts in the log. I had the preamble set to both and changed it to long the other day. I also updated it to 6.30 last night before I went to bed. So I'm hoping one of

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-14 Thread Bill Prince
IMHO, the only thing that wider channels get you on a home network is a higher likelihood of interference. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 7/13/2015 7:38 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The only other thing I am considering is changing channel width from 20/40 to 20 MHz.

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 7/14/15 7:52, Sean Heskett wrote: For us that is a safety issue and if the guy doing the work feels like it's an unsafe condition then the work stops. Same as if it's too windy to climb a tower or too cold in the winter. My guys aren't wimps tho and they'll usually keep going past when I

Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question

2015-07-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott
There are electrical rules regarding poles within a certain distance that you have to attach to. You can charge fees but $12 a year or so is pretty much it. There is an FCC calculation that governs this. Just call the telco joint use office and let them know you have a pole there. Send them

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Daniel White
You should also be fully clothed... light long sleeve shirt, pants. Look at roofers. They work around hot tar all day in the same heat... look how they dress. They do so for a reason. I do so also because I am fair skinned and sunburn easy. Don't forget sunscreen as well. When I used to

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
For those of you stopping work, ever think about a 5 - 10 AM, 6 - 10 PM type of schedule? I understand that construction guys in the south do that. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
lol, working too fast definitely is not a problem with these guys On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 7/14/15 7:52, Sean Heskett wrote: For us that is a safety issue and if the guy doing the work feels like it's an unsafe condition then the work

Re: [AFMUG] Netflix app on iPad keeps asking to reconnect

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
You really should consider turning off the bluetooth on the ipad. both my laptop and my sons old ipad had issues staying connected to my old 2.4 fortigate ap On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:29 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote: IMHO, the only thing that wider channels get you on a home

Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you an attachment fee? If the telco doesnt want the financial burden, since their poles are already spaced appropriately and does not attach, where does the liability fall for wear damage to the strung cable? Does the telco have recourse

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread George Skorup
What's this season without storms you speak of? You mean like tornadoes in November? Or a tower getting hit by lightning in thundersnow? On 7/14/2015 5:10 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Winter. Is that the season without storms? Starting to sound good. -Original Message- From: George Skorup

Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question

2015-07-14 Thread Adam Moffett
Thanks for the tip. I'll also try to position ours to miss there cable by a few inches so it's not actually touching unless they want it to :) On 7/14/2015 9:20 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: I would just notify the telco that they need to come and attach the cable to your pole once it is in.

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
Some are, some aren't. Some are more willing to if outside is turrible. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:28:34 AM

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Dan Petermann
Crack! Crack is what they need. Judging by the time I spent in Florida installing 18 24GHz links for Teligent, crack is what you need. Every rooftop I was on that had recently been re-roofed was covered in crack vials. If nothing else, they will be happy and they won’t quit as they will

Re: [AFMUG] Phone call asked about frequencies used?

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck Hogg
Phone number suggests: http://www.mosaik.com/ Regards, Chuck On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:12 PM, Glen Waldrop gwl...@cngwireless.net wrote: I just got a call from 901-377-8585, nice sounding lady, asked if we were a WISP. I said yes, she asked what frequencies we used, I gave her the quick

Re: [AFMUG] Phone call asked about frequencies used?

2015-07-14 Thread Ron Marosko
http://www.mosaik.com/ Mosaik Solutions builds world-class desktop and mobile applications backed by comprehensive telecom network intelligence. As an agile team of researchers, creatives and mapping experts, we empower better strategic and tactical decisions with accurate datasets,

[AFMUG] Phone call asked about frequencies used?

2015-07-14 Thread Glen Waldrop
I just got a call from 901-377-8585, nice sounding lady, asked if we were a WISP. I said yes, she asked what frequencies we used, I gave her the quick answer, figuring she was going to try to sell me something, then she said thank you and hung up... ???

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I should probably have prefaced that with the fact it was 20 years ago and I was quite a different person then. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:14 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm thatoneguyst...@gmail.com wrote: Im not fully opposed to performance adjuncts. If it werent for the prison time and the whole

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread Bill Prince
I can send you one after the reset, but after we apply the configuration, the SM won't boot at all, so it's impossible to catch this after the fact. George has isolated the issue to turning on NAT, so that is about the best we can do. Maybe I should just send you one of the P8 SMs? You pay

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Customers aren't usually available at 5am. Construction workers here in Ohio do that. When I had fire damage they asked me if they could get started at something like 4 or 5 to do the insulation/attic work. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy,

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Im not fully opposed to performance adjuncts. If it werent for the prison time and the whole never knowing what they are going to fall off of. When I was a superfisor in a printing factory my machines never shut down for break periods, I carried a small pharmacy of over the counter things ranging

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread Jonathan Mandziara
Bill, Can you please send us the Engineering.cgi file to: soluti...@cambiumnetworks.com Best, Jonathan Mandziara Cambium Networks, Inc. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Mandziara Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2015 7:47 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I'd look at Zimbra. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com To: Animal Farm af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:27:49 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage

[AFMUG] OT: Business automotive insurance for work vans

2015-07-14 Thread Paul McCall
What is everyone's preferred auto insurance company for company work van's? We have been with Geico/National Indemnity for a few years and are going to do a review. Paul McCall, Pres. PDMNet / Florida Broadband 658 Old Dixie Highway Vero Beach, FL 32962 772-564-6800 office 772-473-0352 cell

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Interference testing

2015-07-14 Thread Sean Heskett
they do this all the time and i've never noticed an issue with our canopy timing. i'm also a pilot and haven't noticed an issue while flying. -sean On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 11:59 AM, Randy Cosby dco...@infowest.com wrote:

[AFMUG] Powercode

2015-07-14 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Anyone know how to get in touch with the owner of Powercode? My staff are getting frustrated with open trouble tickets of almost 2 months and my fuse is short. Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
I emailed the owner offlist. Let me know if you don't hear from him by COB. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Andreas Wiatowski andr...@silowireless.com wrote: Anyone know how to get in touch with

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Interference testing

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
JAde Helm! Jade Helm!!! We are all getting locked up!! theyll start by shutting down our gps, that way everyone starves because they dont know how to read a map to get to the store On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote: they do this all the time and i've never

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Mike Hammett
I think they make 10TB drives now. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com - Original Message - From: TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:58:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Jay Weekley
I've I'm working with employees I try to schedule 5 minutes in the van with the A/C on drinking water for every 45 in the field and encourage them to do that when working solo. That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: We are supposed to have a heat index thats pretty high today. when I was doing

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
You should be getting a call. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I emailed the owner offlist. Let me know if you don't hear from him by COB. Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode

2015-07-14 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Thanks Josh. Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email andr...@silowireless.com 19 Sage Court Brantford, Ontario N3R 7T4 (CANADA) Tel +1.519.449.5656 Extension-600|Fax +1.519.449.5536 |Toll Free +1.866.727.4138 Website http://www.silowireless.com/

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Paul McCall
We allow our guys to buy gas, ice and water on the company gas card and have that worked out with the local stations (so that the guys don’t buy other things). We provide the coolers and encourage heavy hydration. We encourage full clothes which they do, but a couple guys don’t like to wear

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread George Skorup
It would be scary if they didn't have any P8s laying around to test with. Next question... I wonder if this affects P9 boards as well? That would suck. Not sure if I have one around the office to test. On 7/14/2015 12:19 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I can send you one after the reset, but after we

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread Bill Prince
Nope. Have already loaded 13.4 on P9, P10, and P11, and all is good with them. Have also loaded 13.4 on PMP430 and PMP450. bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On 7/14/2015 4:59 PM, George Skorup wrote: I wonder if this affects P9 boards as well? That would suck. Not sure if I have one around the

[AFMUG] OT Large Hadron Collider Discovers Long-Elusive 'Pentaquark' Particle - ABC News

2015-07-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/large-hadron-collider-discovers-long-elusive-pentaquark-particle/story?id=32448944

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4: P8 FSK not recommended

2015-07-14 Thread Chitrang Srivastava
Hi Bill, In order to investigate P8 issue, please do following, AFTER upgrade to P8 and applying configuration changes but BEFORE doing reboot, take out engineering.cgi. Please also send configuration file as well from Configuration - Unit Setting. Does without NAT P8 is accessible? If the

Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I doubt you could get an attachment fee from them since you elected to put in the pole after the fact. From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 8:54 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] dumb pole question how does that work? If you drop a pole, the telco has to pay you

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Interference testing

2015-07-14 Thread Chuck McCown
I remember them doing some GPS jamming tests on the Dugway areas and the Wendover Test and Training Range. It certainly killed out BITS clock in the central office. It killed Canopy sync too. But they didn’t jam for very long. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 12:17 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] heat cutoff for installers

2015-07-14 Thread Jaime Solorza
i bought a beach umbrella for the lift and what a major difference, its a pretty blue which accents the tractor orange i am the envy of the Johnson controls guys installing new acs on same barracks, haters Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect 915-861-1390 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 8:52

Re: [AFMUG] GPS Interference testing

2015-07-14 Thread Randy Cosby
Just coincidentally, they are running their annual Red Flag drills during the same time frame. http://www.nellis.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123445925 Hope they don't drop bombs in the wrong place. On 7/14/2015 12:24 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote: JAde Helm! Jade Helm!!! We are all getting

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Business automotive insurance for work vans

2015-07-14 Thread Rory Conaway
We have Allstate. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Paul McCall Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2015 11:15 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Business automotive insurance for work vans What is everyone's preferred auto insurance company for company work van's? We have

[AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Nate Burke
I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage. So he can go back and check work comp cases to see if employees were really hurt on the job. My Calcs come in at needing around 4-5tb of storage to accomplish this, so I'd

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread TJ Trout
They make 6tb drives now? So you only need 1 drive then, right? On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:50 AM, Rory McCann rmm.li...@gmail.com wrote: +1 One of the companies I work with does a lot of video surveillance. They were using iSCSI Buffalo TeraStations for one of the jobs (50+ cameras for a

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
If its to avoid claims, affordable has a whole lot more wiggle room. On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 12:27 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote: I'm getting ready to install a 20+ camera system for a customer that want's 9-5 Full Time Recording with 30 days storage. So he can go back and check

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread cstanners
A 2-3TB HD should be all you need for over 30 days of storage with motion-based recording... Put the triggers to be sensitive, there is no reason to be recording when absolutely nothing changes on screen. --Original Message-- From: Nate Burke Sender: Af To: Animal Farm ReplyTo:

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Rory McCann
+1 One of the companies I work with does a lot of video surveillance. They were using iSCSI Buffalo TeraStations for one of the jobs (50+ cameras for a Casino). Rory McCann MKAP Technology Solutions Web: www.mkap.net On 7/14/2015 12:41 PM, cstann...@gmail.com wrote: A 2-3TB HD should be

[AFMUG] GPS Interference testing

2015-07-14 Thread Randy Cosby
https://www.faasafety.gov/files/notices/2015/Jul/NTTR_15-12_GPS_Flight_Advisory.pdf Any idea what military GPS interference testing involves? I wonder how this might impact canopy or airfiber gps-timed links.

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread D. Ryan Spott
Ask your customer what risk they want to take. If they are OK (and sign off on) the fact they might loose a bunch of data due to a JBOD disk failure then go for it.. Otherwise, networked attached or direct attached RAID. ryan On 7/14/15 10:27 AM, Nate Burke wrote: I'm getting ready to

Re: [AFMUG] Large Single Volume Data Storage Options

2015-07-14 Thread Josh Luthman
Two 6 TB disks. Synology NAS. Mirror raid. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 2:04 PM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote: Ask your customer what risk they want to take. If they are OK (and sign off on)