Re: [AFMUG] Signal-Scrambling Tech 'Freezes' Drones in Midair

2015-10-11 Thread Eric Kuhnke
unless it jams GPS+GLONASS, not going to do much against a drone flying a series of autonomous waypoints with its flight controller... from an RF perspective it's not hard to jam the 2.4 GHz based transmitters used for realtime remote control. here's an example of a higher end product:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Adam Moffett
Israel does have armed guards at schools and security fences around the perimeter. Reportedly some of the teachers are armed too (but not all). but they were worried about Palestinians, not a disturbed kid. Gun ownership laws are actually more strict in Israel than in the US. You need a

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
The onion is a riot. You can hire then to do commercials. I would have had them do one for us but I thought they would be way too expensive. I never checked though. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 1:12 AM Jason McKemie < j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote: > At the risk of sounding repetitive: > >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Guns? Yes Jaime Solorza On Oct 10, 2015 10:21 PM, "Lewis Bergman" wrote: > Did anyone see Saturday night live tonight? Funny parody of the NRA > commercials. > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015, 11:03 PM Jay Weekley > wrote: > >> Statistically, you're

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Jason McKemie
At the risk of sounding repetitive: http://www.theonion.com/article/nra-calls-for-teachers-to-keep-loaded-gun-pointed--34336 On Saturday, October 10, 2015, Lewis Bergman wrote: > Did anyone see Saturday night live tonight? Funny parody of the NRA > commercials. > > On

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Daniel White
I’ve got a GoPro video from about 2 years ago of me driving on the Autobahn in a Mercedes S Class (what a beautiful car) going 250 km/h (155mph) and getting cut off by a lady in the left lane that wasn’t paying attention. If I didn’t have such an excellent car that stopped on a dime, I’d

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
I love Puerto Rico because you don’t signal on lane changes on the freeways. (Worst place I ever drove was Athens, Manhattan is a country road by comparison). From: Patrick Leary Sent: Saturday, October 10, 2015 4:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings I lived in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
This is outrageous. How can America compete in a world economy if Germans can get to their jobs and classes 3 times as fast as we can? The government needs to develop a National Superhighway Plan, and measure and map advertised and actual speeds. The USDOT needs to immediately raise the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Patrick Leary
It’s mesmerizing to watch the scooter traffic in Rome. A bit like red blood cells jostling around in the blood stream towards some destination. Patrick Leary, Telrad 727-501-3735 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 11:14 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Rankin
Especially with all thee libtard views out there today! On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > > It is also a great reminder that people in other parts of the country do > not necessarily share your views. > Also a great reminder that the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
So Chucks says “folks are smart and mostly polite” and then you have to ruin it. I don’t understand why it takes so little provocation these days to use the **tard word. In this case, just because you disagree with some folks. As I’ve turned 65 recently, I’ve noticed people using that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
Chuck started this thread. Sometimes I picture Chuck as a kid being questioned by an adult as to why he did what he did responding "just to watch it burn" On Oct 11, 2015 10:53 AM, "Patrick Leary" wrote: > It’s mesmerizing to watch the scooter traffic in Rome. A bit

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Daniel White
I love it! Although a nice history note is that the US Highway system was modeled after the Autobahn after Eisenhower returned from Germany in WW2 https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/interstate/brainiacs/eisenhowerinterstate.cfm Thank you, Daniel White

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Come on now. Be civil. You only hurt your own argument when you resort to name calling. People assume you are out of salient points to make. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015, 1:09 PM Philip Rankin wrote: > Especially with all thee libtard views out there today! > > On Sat, Oct 10,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Lewis Bergman
Last time I was in Paris my wife got impatient trying to find a way over to the Arc de Triomphe and wanted to just run across the circle. I am all for risky thrill seeking but not certain death. For those that haven't been there, it is in the middle of a traffic circle with 12 large roads going

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/11/15 11:41 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Should I not expect civility online anywhere? There's a prevailing theory on that: http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
You lack perspective. There are hundreds of parables about how lack of perspective allows people to denigrate others that they do not agree with. That, and it's rude too. bp On 10/11/2015 11:09 AM, Philip Rankin wrote: Especially with all thee libtard views out

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
You oldtard... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc So Chucks says “folks are smart and mostly polite” and then you have to ruin it. I don’t understand why it takes so little provocation these days to use the **tard word.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Try walking to the obelisk... Holy crap talk about a risk. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:54 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings Last time I was in Paris my wife got impatient trying to find a way over to the Arc de Triomphe and wanted to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Patrick Leary
Civility is a mark of honor, intelligence and good parenting. The mirror of that is equally true. Patrick Patrick Leary Telrad On Oct 11, 2015 2:40 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: So Chucks says “folks are smart and mostly polite” and then you have to ruin it. I don’t understand why it

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Rankin
My IQ is only high enough to know that if you spend $3 trillion dollars and only take in 2, something has got to happen. And that if you stick a knife in a baby's neck or back, it's gonna die. I don't really need a much higher IQ than that to argue my point about liberalism! On Sun, Oct 11,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
We come in peas: http://bizarro.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/172/2014/06/Bizarro-07-05-98-PeasWEb.jpg From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 5:15 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc Salud. Going to enjoy my beer and let you enjoy your day.since you are from

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
Just don’t call me a unitard. From: Chuck McCown Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 3:07 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc You oldtard... From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 12:41 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc So Chucks says “folks are

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Rankin
Haven't made my point yet Lewis. But, saw enough of those that were not in agreement with you in the thread to know that they don't believe in "Certain Inalienable Rights" with government here only to preserve those rights, not impose someone else's stupidity on me. And, that the libs want

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Josh Luthman
You know we've had conservative politicians and presidents in the last 50 years right? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 11, 2015 3:52 PM, "Philip Rankin" wrote: > Since many of you are calling me rude,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, he did say "mostly polite", not completely polite... And no, you probably shouldn't expect civility anywhere online, or not online, for that matter... unless you enjoy being disappointed :P On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 1:41 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > So Chucks says “folks are

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Hold that thought headed to but some Mexican beer in my Chevy truck at Venezuelan owned store in west Texas Jaime Solorza On Oct 11, 2015 3:00 PM, "Philip Rankin" wrote: > My IQ is only high enough to know that if you spend $3 trillion dollars > and only take in

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Josh Luthman
Nixon Ford Reagan Bush... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Philip Rankin wrote: > Yes, one. > > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Bill Prince
We have two ears and one tongue so that we would listen more and talk less. Diogenes bp On 10/11/2015 1:34 PM, Philip Rankin wrote: Haven't made my point yet Lewis. But, saw enough of those that were not in agreement with you in the thread to know that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Ken Hohhof
I worry about a generation of kids raised on the Internet I encounter out in the real world who don’t seem to know a different set of rules apply. I’m surprised more don’t get punched in the nose. Their real nose, not an anonymous, virtual nose. Speaking of which, this video of Buzz Aldrin

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread George Skorup
Yeah, so what. Texas is America, right? We fought a war and Mexico lost. A mix of cultures is great, we have everything here! Being proud of your heritage is also a good thing, but being arrogant about it not so much. (not directing that at you, Jaime) We are a "Nation of Laws" as a lot of

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Rankin
Nixon was conservative, but with him trying to cover up his crooked tail, we never saw much of anything from him. He was truly ineffective. Ford and Bush?? Hahaha. Not conservative RINO. Reagan, a different story. He wasn't perfect, but in his heart he held conservatism high. There is

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
I read somewhere that the interstate highway system aka defense highway system has a 5000 foot straight stretch ever few miles with no overhead wires or overpasses to make it suitable for aircraft. I think every 5 miles. From: Daniel White Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:20 AM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings

2015-10-11 Thread Chuck McCown
Some threads are more successful... (The grievers are coming, I am leaving the maze door open tonight...) From: That One Guy /sarcasm Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 10:10 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Campus Shootings Chuck started this thread. Sometimes I picture Chuck as a kid

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Philip Rankin
Since many of you are calling me rude, how about we just reverse that logic??? How about all of the damage the liberal logic has done to this country in the past say 50 years Is that not rude? You know, actually it's so far beyond rude, that we can't measure it anymore. Start with the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Oh yeah you far right wingers score high on IQ tests. Jaime Solorza On Oct 11, 2015 12:09 PM, "Philip Rankin" wrote: > Especially with all thee libtard views out there today! > > On Sat, Oct 10, 2015 at 12:10 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller < > par...@cyberbroadband.net> wrote: > >>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
I assumed we were all sentient listers oh wait I almost forgot I shouldn't write at this level ...some will have to look up definition since they are not part of the cognus scenti .ducking before I get shot.. Jaime Solorza On Oct 11, 2015 2:26 PM, "Patrick Leary"

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
No big if George.I have been called all kinds of things by racists but only once to my face. I walked away and he followed. He got my shoulder...he got to taste the pavement. Doesn't matter that I was born here like my folks and grandparents. Doesn't matter that my grandpa was in Army ,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jay Weekley
Google says it means "I pass me the eggs". Jaime Solorza wrote: No big if George.I have been called all kinds of things by racists but only once to my face. I walked away and he followed. He got my shoulder...he got to taste the pavement. Doesn't matter that I was born here like my

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Have you read the latest in Memphis? Senseless Jaime Solorza On Oct 11, 2015 5:49 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > Google says it means "I pass me the eggs". > > Jaime Solorza wrote: > >> >> No big if George.I have been called all kinds of things by racists >> but

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Amen to that... - Original Message - From: Philip Rankin To: af Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 4:00 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc My IQ is only high enough to know that if you spend $3 trillion dollars and only take in 2, something has got to happen. And that if

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Gino Villarini
i pass it though my balls.. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Have you read the latest in Memphis? Senseless > > Jaime Solorza > On Oct 11, 2015 5:49 PM, "Jay Weekley" wrote: > >> Google says it means "I pass me the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Gracias. Jaime Solorza On Oct 11, 2015 6:06 PM, "Gino Villarini" wrote: > i pass it though my balls.. > > On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:58 PM, Jaime Solorza > wrote: > >> Have you read the latest in Memphis? Senseless >> >> Jaime Solorza >> On Oct

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
You're absolutely right Ken! I mean if its on the internet, it must be true, just like everything on those "news" shows is absolutely true as well! I mean, really, how can you be sure of anything anymore? I've been hanging out with my girlfriend, ie the conspiracy theorist, far too long...

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Positive Points: * requiring covering preexisting conditions is, without a doubt, a good thing, no? (if anything should have been regulated, this is probably good) * Insurance until you're 26? Maybe. Probably as great thing when we didn't give kids jobs since there were no jobs, but when

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jeremy
Wait...I am a far left liberal in red state Utah, but I completely agree with the Republicans and Constitutionalists when it comes to guns and gun rights. So am I still a Libtard or just a Utard?? On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 6:12 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Positive

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Josh Luthman
RIP this thread Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 11, 2015 7:41 PM, "Jeremy" wrote: > Wait...I am a far left liberal in red state Utah, but I completely agree > with the Republicans and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
i don't know...do you use uber? - Original Message - From: Jeremy To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, October 11, 2015 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc Wait...I am a far left liberal in red state Utah, but I completely agree with the Republicans and

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Jeremy
No, I drive jacked up gas guzzling pickup trucks. On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 7:14 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > i don't know...do you use uber? > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jeremy > *To:* af@afmug.com > *Sent:* Sunday, October

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
not to take a particular side (guns rule) but ive quite often noticed that those with no good argument hit brakes on a single word that hurts their feelings to derail an argument. in the not so distant past, prior to it being ok to pick ones own gender and schools banning the board of education,

[AFMUG] how far can we go in capturing and investigating data?

2015-10-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
what is the legality of us capturing and reviewing data for troubleshooting. Is there a clearly defined line? I assume we cant capture encrypted traffic and try to decrypt it and get to the underlying data. Is there a set of words that we can put in our TOS that give us a pass? This is a concern

[AFMUG] anybody know this IP

2015-10-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
68.142.74.85 registered to limelight networks CDN? there is a heavy TCP stream on a customer connection Im no master of deciphering packet traffic but i find GET

Re: [AFMUG] Signal-Scrambling Tech 'Freezes' Drones in Midair

2015-10-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I say we add a running competition to the list of best picture of drones the suddenly "fell from the sky" extra point for images of the entry and exit On Sun, Oct 11, 2015 at 4:54 AM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > unless it jams GPS+GLONASS, not going to do much against a drone

Re: [AFMUG] OT Guns etc

2015-10-11 Thread Sean Heskett
Nixon was extremely effective! He started the EPA and brought us completely off the gold standard. He also opened trade with China and over saw the Apollo 11 moon landing. -Sean On Sunday, October 11, 2015, Philip Rankin wrote: > Nixon was conservative, but with him

Re: [AFMUG] Signal-Scrambling Tech 'Freezes' Drones in Midair

2015-10-11 Thread Jaime Solorza
Can i use 5 watt amp and an old Tsunami radio? Jaime Solorza On Oct 11, 2015 10:01 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" wrote: > I say we add a running competition to the list of best picture of drones > the suddenly "fell from the sky" extra point for images of the entry and

Re: [AFMUG] a lot of traffic to a dead subnet

2015-10-11 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
I love these mikrotiks!! Thanks for pointing out I can just save the file and load it into wireshark, drag and dropped it out of winbox to my PC without having to set up a cupture for the stream or anything, this is like the greatest thing ever, or at least in the last ten minutes On Fri, Oct 9,