Re: [AFMUG] Big fights tonight and tomorrow...

2015-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Headed homehad a gig.37 degrees with breeze used glove on left hand most of nighthope son recorded parts On Dec 12, 2015 8:05 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Sitting down with beer in hand now... Main card is coming on > On Dec 12, 2015 8:07 PM, "Sean Heskett"

Re: [AFMUG] Confession

2015-12-12 Thread That One Guy /sarcasm
First day on the job chuck? On Dec 11, 2015 4:54 PM, wrote: > We screwed up a production run of 450 3.65 radio holders. > The sheet metal was folded in the wrong direction. > > The one on the right is the good one. > > The notch is for the ground screw. > I have modified the

Re: [AFMUG] Big fights tonight and tomorrow...

2015-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
It’s warmer than that in Chicago, we’re supposed to get mid 60’s tomorrow. El Nino? From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:41 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Big fights tonight and tomorrow... Headed homehad a gig.37 degrees with breeze used glove on left

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Jay Weekley
"I never lie" - Jay Weekley Ken Hohhof wrote: “It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only variable is about what.” - Gregory House https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZR2k5c_198 *From:* Bill Prince *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2015 5:58

Re: [AFMUG] OT Parker

2015-12-12 Thread Tim Reichhart
i think parker will kick todds ass this season reason why I say that is because parker did 3mil last year and I also think he will bring around 4mil where is todd will fall short of this cocky goal. -Original Message- > From: "Jay Weekley" > To:

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Ty @ Internet Communications Inc
We are slowly moving everyone to the 450 platform. It will take another 12-18 months. The 3.65 is working great for us and may ended up being 50% of our subs. With that said, I am still on a 5.7 FSK unit at my home. 15 users on the same ap at this time. We can pull 9-11Mbps on a 7Mbps radio.

Re: [AFMUG] TV

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
No, at least it has not presented itself as a problem. Yet. We do have to disclose served areas. From: Rory Conaway Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 10:22 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV That makes sense. Does geography or database management for the stations come into play?

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
I've got a Windows 8.1 machine, and when I type "ver" at the CLI, I get: Microsoft Windows [Version 6.3.9600] bp On 12/12/2015 9:15 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: Well, if you want to be picky, 4 (NT) was 4, and 2000 was 5 and ME was... an abomination that should've

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
When was Nahum? I thought that version was pre-2000? bp On 12/11/2015 8:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: I think the first set of radios we bought were P8 5700BHs running v3.something in early 2003. Obviously there was P7 before that. Maybe late '02? And I believe

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
4 was 98; 5 was ME, 6 was Vista. But that's software. We're talking hardware versions. bp On 12/12/2015 8:09 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: But not 4, 5, 6... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 12,

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Simon Westlake
Thanks for the input, it's been very helpful! If I ever find a day that I own $100 million of CPE, I will be having a massive Craigslist sale. On 12/12/2015 10:30 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I'm not qualified to answer that question. If you also capitalized 100 million dollars worth of routers,

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Maybe it’s like Star Wars episode numbers. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:34 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization 4 was 98; 5 was ME, 6 was Vista. But that's software. We're talking hardware versions. bp

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
I know we expensed all of our CPE. Then when you sell it is 100% capital gain. But if you depreciate all of your CPE, when you sell you have to "recapture" all of the depreciation expense and that is effectively 100% capital gain. No easy way to win this game. -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
And if there was a P7, there surely must have been P6, P5, P4, P3, P2, and P1... bp On 12/11/2015 8:10 PM, George Skorup wrote: I think the first set of radios we bought were P8 5700BHs running v3.something in early 2003. Obviously there was P7 before that. Maybe

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
There wasn't a Windows 94, 93, 92, etc... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > And if there was a P7, there surely must have been P6, P5, P4, P3, P2, and >

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Tushar Patel
GAP accounting standard allows you to come up with company policy. Where policy can say any item under $1000 will be expense. After that it does not matter how many items you buy under that price. I am not accountant, you may want to check with accountant who are familiar with GAP standards.

Re: [AFMUG] Spam:******, Re: Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
That's fantastic! I believe the non advantage radios weren't limited in burst, but rather sustained rate. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 12, 2015 11:15 AM, "Ty @ Internet Communications Inc" < t...@franklinisp.net> wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Simon Westlake
Ah, didn't realize this was a GAAP thing. I'll go dig into it, trying to figure out what info would be needed to input a formula to do this automatically. On 12/12/2015 10:12 AM, Tushar Patel wrote: GAP accounting standard allows you to come up with company policy. Where policy can say any

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
I'm not qualified to answer that question. If you also capitalized 100 million dollars worth of routers, servers, backhauls and APs, I don't see why not. After all, you wouldn't depreciate cabling and J-pipes no much you spent on them in aggregate. If you had thousands of employees and

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard
Well, if you want to be picky, 4 (NT) was 4, and 2000 was 5 and ME was... an abomination that should've never existed. But who says you have to start at 1 anyway? On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > 4 was 98; 5 was ME, 6 was Vista. > > But that's

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Mathew Howard
But interestingly, on Windows 10 I get Microsoft Windows [Version 10.0.10586] but there's no Windows 9 no matter what names or numbers you use. On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:19 AM, Bill Prince wrote: > I've got a Windows 8.1 machine, and when I type "ver" at the CLI, I get: >

[AFMUG] LTE vendor

2015-12-12 Thread Joshaven Mailing Lists
Does anyone have experience that they would like to share regarding LTE hardware vendors ( Huawei/Telrad/Airspan/etc )? Sincerely, Joshaven Potter Google Hangouts: j...@g2wireless.co Cell & SMS: 1-517-607-9370 supp...@joshaven.com

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Simon Westlake
Can you get away with that on a big purchase though? Or is it because you are buying it in small quantities? E.g. if I buy 100 million dollars worth of CPE, I can't imagine I'd get away with expensing it. On 12/11/2015 11:47 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I have an asset item called "equipment" and

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
But there was a Windows 1 and 2. bp On 12/12/2015 8:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: There wasn't a Windows 94, 93, 92, etc... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Josh Luthman
But not 4, 5, 6... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Dec 12, 2015 11:07 AM, "Bill Prince" wrote: > But there was a Windows 1 and 2. > > bp > > > > On 12/12/2015 8:04 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
By the time I retire CPE, no one wants to buy it. I worry the e-waste recycler will charge us to take it. Especially with commodity prices falling. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 10:51 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Eric Kuhnke
It didn't go sequentially like that, win2000 was a direct descendent of NT4. If I remember right the kernel versions for everything in the first release of XP are directly one number higher than 2000. ME was an evolved version of 98SE and a dead end. On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 9:15 AM, Mathew

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Jeremy
I let my accounts figure it out as well. Some items (core network equipment, switches, routers, etc.) are depreciated over 5 years, and some over 3 years. If I had to deal with all of this I'd likely throw in the towel. A good accountant is worth their weight in gold. On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Daniel White
The boards that ran Nahum and such I think were technically P6 boards… before they called them that. I know later firmware would identify them as P7 boards Thank you, Daniel White afmu...@gmail.com Cell: +1 (303) 746-3590 Skype: danieldwhite Social:

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Keefe John
This is something the accountants figure out. On 12/12/2015 11:01 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: By the time I retire CPE, no one wants to buy it. I worry the e-waste recycler will charge us to take it. Especially with commodity prices falling. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown Sent:

Re: [AFMUG] Graph 450 Airtime Utilization

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
Oh. Right. Back in 95 or there about, Windows NT came out as an alternative to the old 16-bit Windows. There were various iterations of both the 16-bit Windows, and a few iterations of what was then 32-bit Windows. I think Windows ME was the last iteration of the 16-bit version. Windows

Re: [AFMUG] Big fights tonight and tomorrow...

2015-12-12 Thread Sean Heskett
Wait I thought you were a Jedi knight ;) On Friday, December 11, 2015, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Nope. Just spent a lot of years in sports, and carried a wakazashi since > the age of 3... My father has been a martial arts instructor for over 35 > years now. > On Dec 11, 2015

Re: [AFMUG] LTE vendor

2015-12-12 Thread Sean Heskett
Telrad works amazingly great with nLOS conditions. I haven't used Huawei and I probably never will because of their nefarious business practices 2 cents -Sean On Saturday, December 12, 2015, Joshaven Mailing Lists wrote: > Does anyone have experience that they would

Re: [AFMUG] Big fights tonight and tomorrow...

2015-12-12 Thread Jaime Solorza
Thus the sprawl observation... On Dec 11, 2015 11:13 PM, "Josh Reynolds" wrote: > Nope. Just spent a lot of years in sports, and carried a wakazashi since > the age of 3... My father has been a martial arts instructor for over 35 > years now. > On Dec 11, 2015 11:49 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Big fights tonight and tomorrow...

2015-12-12 Thread Josh Reynolds
Sitting down with beer in hand now... Main card is coming on On Dec 12, 2015 8:07 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > Wait I thought you were a Jedi knight ;) > > On Friday, December 11, 2015, Josh Reynolds wrote: > >> Nope. Just spent a lot of years in sports,

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Who first said “if you can’t dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bullshit”? From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 5:37 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit Had no idea bullshit was

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Jason McKemie
I love that show. On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 6:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > “It's a basic truth of the human condition that everybody lies. The only > variable is about what.” > - Gregory House > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZR2k5c_198 > > *From:* Bill Prince

[AFMUG] OT Book Review

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
The Most Dangerous Animal of All Had a hard time putting it down once I started. True crime. About the Zodiac killer.

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
When you have fiber in the ground and a backhoe in the yard, it becomes a bit more significant. From: Jeremy Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 12:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation I let my accounts figure it out as well. Some items (core network

[AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
I listened to this story from /On the Media/ on NPR, and found it very entertaining. It's a discussion about "Lies", and humans inability to just tell the truth. http://www.onthemedia.org/story/on-the-media-2015-12-04/ One interesting sub-topic was Donald Trump, and an examination of 72

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
That is why you would want to expense it. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 2:28 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation 10 year life is a bit on the long side. bp On 12/12/2015 1:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Would CPE

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
48.45 could be argued if you wanted a shorter life. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 2:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation Would CPE be asset class 48.38? https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p946.pdf From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
Listen to the podcast. It's a bit of both. bp On 12/12/2015 2:59 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: And does this show that we can’t tell the truth, or that we like being lied to?

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit Had no idea bullshit was invented by a philosopher in 1986. I am sure I had heard that term before that date... From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 4:29 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Ken Hohhof
Would CPE be asset class 48.38? https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p946.pdf From: Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 3:03 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation When you have fiber in the ground and a backhoe in the yard, it becomes a bit more

Re: [AFMUG] Calculating depreciation

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
10 year life is a bit on the long side. bp On 12/12/2015 1:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Would CPE be asset class 48.38? https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/p946.pdf *From:* Chuck McCown *Sent:* Saturday, December 12, 2015 3:03 PM *To:* af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Chuck McCown
Added a word to my lexicon from this podcast: mendacious I am sure I have heard it before but never used it and never looked up the meaning until now. I do use prevaricate, and confabulate. Now I will have to add mendacious. From: Bill Prince Sent: Saturday, December 12, 2015 3:37 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT weekend edition: Lies, Lies, Lies

2015-12-12 Thread Bill Prince
Of course everything on Wikipedia is absolutely true... bp On 12/12/2015 3:37 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_Bullshit Had no idea bullshit was invented by a philosopher in 1986. I am sure I had heard that term before that date... *From:*