Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

im thinking about putting up an omni on my chimney.. I will shoot one if it goes over my property, i am that guy :-) but as far as tower inspection and whatnot, absolutely, now that the rules are clear im going to do the hoop jump to use ours (i havent flown it) a perfect use case is we are doing

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

I think I have the necessary stuff in bat cave to make a nice jamming toy But no one bothering me Might be a fun project though On Sep 12, 2016 9:17 PM, "George Skorup" wrote: > AT does it. > > On 9/12/2016 9:50 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: > >> While we are OT...has anyone

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

AT does it. On 9/12/2016 9:50 PM, Jay Weekley wrote: While we are OT...has anyone seen any value to using a drone for tower inspections? Sean Heskett wrote: Yes you most definitely can do that...I know cuz I crashed mine once by connecting my phone via wifi to the GoPro. Not sure if the fcc

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

While we are OT...has anyone seen any value to using a drone for tower inspections? Sean Heskett wrote: Yes you most definitely can do that...I know cuz I crashed mine once by connecting my phone via wifi to the GoPro. Not sure if the fcc & faa would be happy with you doing it, but

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

Yes you most definitely can do that...I know cuz I crashed mine once by connecting my phone via wifi to the GoPro. Not sure if the fcc & faa would be happy with you doing it, but technically yes you can interfere enough to cause a crash. -Sean On Monday, September 12, 2016, That One Guy

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Ugh.. we have only been asking for it for a year now. :( On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:34 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > Yeah... uplink appears to still always be at 100% in 3.0 also. > > > Percentage still isn't available via SNMP, is it? > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Sure it is. Like free advice. Worth every penny. From: Paul Stewart Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 8:53 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig Sorry but nothing is free…. just saying…… On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Sorry but nothing is free…. just saying…… > On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:05 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > Let me guess, BGP from a huge colo/dedicated server/CDN type network that has > a ridiculous amount of outbound traffic, 90:10 outbound traffic ratio... The > only effect a

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

I wonder if I could so a little developer mode on our old alvarion fhss with some amps and big sectors to create some drone no fly zones, nothing would feel better than watching these fuckers drop from the sky On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 8:37 PM, George Skorup wrote: > I believe

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

I believe it's 2.4 FHSS on the Phantom 3 that we have. On 9/12/2016 8:20 PM, Sean Heskett wrote: I don't know how wide a channel the phantom uses but I'll fire it up with a spectrum analyzer when I get a chance. On Monday, September 12, 2016, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

I don't know how wide a channel the phantom uses but I'll fire it up with a spectrum analyzer when I get a chance. On Monday, September 12, 2016, Jaime Solorza wrote: > How wide are the channels? How many in 2.4GHz band? > > On Sep 12, 2016 6:32 PM, "Sean Heskett"

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

How wide are the channels? How many in 2.4GHz band? On Sep 12, 2016 6:32 PM, "Sean Heskett" wrote: > They use the 2.4 and 5.8 bands but they don't usually use the wifi > protocol. (Some might but my Phantom and others I've used don't) > > -Sean > > > On Monday, September 12,

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Yep. Getting something into SNMP can be a pain but it sure is nice once it gets there. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 7:16 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > Of course that graph is from an RRA/RRDtool, the question is how was the > data acquired on *N* poller interval... > > ssh and script

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

They use the 2.4 and 5.8 bands but they don't usually use the wifi protocol. (Some might but my Phantom and others I've used don't) -Sean On Monday, September 12, 2016, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Do drones use standard WiFi on 2.4 and 5GHz? Do any use 900MHz? >

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

I have done both. I use net-snmp's 'extend' for graphing Postfix data. FYI - I'm using key based authentication into a non-privileged account to execute the script. > On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > IMHO putting hardcoded credentials into an NMS

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Of course that graph is from an RRA/RRDtool, the question is how was the data acquired on *N* poller interval... ssh and script from the NMS server vs. snmpd and OIDs. The good thing about exposing the bind9 data via snmp OIDs is that it's not specific or proprietary to one type of NMS, if you

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

RRD actually makes all those graphs possible On Mon, Sep 12, 2016, 7:01 PM Eric Kuhnke wrote: > IMHO putting hardcoded credentials into an NMS that allows it to ssh into > a bind server is a lot more risky than usign snmpd, snmp "extend" and > polling your new custom

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

Don't criticize... Legalize!!!Cough cough. Okay do the ones using 2.4 and 5ghz use standard WiFi or proprietary like video transmitters? On Sep 12, 2016 6:02 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" wrote: > that's like asking do all cars use e85 fuel, there's a ton of different > drones

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Let me guess, BGP from a huge colo/dedicated server/CDN type network that has a ridiculous amount of outbound traffic, 90:10 outbound traffic ratio... The only effect a residential last mile ISP can really have is beneficial for many of that type of hosting operation, helping them even out their

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

though it's still in a closet on the 20th floor :), but a closet with N+1 redundant cooling, power feeds, etc... The new SIX core Arista that is coming soon will be a sight to behold. On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: > On 9/11/16 3:50 PM, Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

that's like asking do all cars use e85 fuel, there's a ton of different drones and different radio control systems. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:45 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > Do drones use standard WiFi on 2.4 and 5GHz? Do any use 900MHz? >

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

IMHO putting hardcoded credentials into an NMS that allows it to ssh into a bind server is a lot more risky than usign snmpd, snmp "extend" and polling your new custom created OIDs. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Are you talking about something like

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

The best way to do it, in my opinion, is with a proper snmpd on the bind host and the snmp "extend" paramter in the snmpd.conf file. Any shell script, perl script, python or whatever that you can run and will output an integer can be graphed and monitored. There's lots of good ways to visualize

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

I butted heads with Patrick a few times, but i'm much more ok with him now. I'd buy him a beer. In his sales/marketing roles he had / has to be an advocate for his product. Like it or not, agree or disagree, but he is good at that job. That observium guy might actually have had valid

[AFMUG] OT. Drone RF questions

Do drones use standard WiFi on 2.4 and 5GHz? Do any use 900MHz?

Re: [AFMUG] FCC website newb question

That would be extremely cool if i can. Thanks. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:11 PM, George Skorup wrote: > > I just did a Part 90 land/mobile on the stupid java app a couple weeks ago. > Total pain in the ass. Had to find java 7 and force it to install, then

Re: [AFMUG] FCC website newb question

I just did a Part 90 land/mobile on the stupid java app a couple weeks ago. Total pain in the ass. Had to find java 7 and force it to install, then get rid of the stupid update nag every 5 minutes. I had to close it a couple times due to crashes and I was able to pick up where I left off. So

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Munin does that kind of stuff too … > On Sep 12, 2016, at 6:10 PM, Jon Auer wrote: > > i dunno man. apparently some people like it when a asshat is in charge. see > also: trump. > > Seriously though, we stuck with mainline Observium and have been quite happy > with it. > >

[AFMUG] FCC website newb question

I started a license application on the FCC site, but I have to prepare some attachments which are going to take awhile to finish. I didn't know what all the required attachments were going to be until I got most of the way through the application. If I just leave the browser window open, how

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

i dunno man. apparently some people like it when a asshat is in charge. see also: trump. Seriously though, we stuck with mainline Observium and have been quite happy with it. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:02 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > is the observium

Re: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should be taken?

I am more fond of this one: http://www.mccowntech.com/outdoor-dc-power-line-surge-suppressor-protector/ From: Josh Baird Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:56 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should be taken? Citel makes some nice DC

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Yeah... uplink appears to still always be at 100% in 3.0 also. Percentage still isn't available via SNMP, is it? On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:17 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > Well, at least in the UI, uplink frame utilization is always reported as > 100% in 2.6.1. I haven't

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Uplink utilization via SNMP is always maxed out too. On 9/12/2016 4:17 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Well, at least in the UI, uplink frame utilization is always reported as 100% in 2.6.1. I haven't actually looked at the raw numbers via SNMP. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez,

Re: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should betaken?

Doh - I forgot Chuck made them now! On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Jeremy wrote: > Hmmm, this maybe? http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-dc-power-line- > apc-rack-surge-suppressor-protector/ > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Well, at least in the UI, uplink frame utilization is always reported as 100% in 2.6.1. I haven't actually looked at the raw numbers via SNMP. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 5:12 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > So what I am hearing is I am reading the correct

Re: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should betaken?

Hmmm, this maybe? http://www.mccowntech.com/rack-mount-dc-power-line-apc-rack-surge-suppressor-protector/ On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 2:54 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > You can probably guess my answers... > > *From:* Gino Villarini > *Sent:* Monday, September 12,

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

So what I am hearing is I am reading the correct values but Uplink does not read correctly? Gilbert On 9/12/2016 1:59 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Oh, and the uplink frame utilization values are not correct.. at least in 2.6. I haven't tried 3.0 yet. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Gilbert T.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Frame utilization with 14.x on the PMP450 is freakin awesome. I'm glad that I moved off of 13.2.1 if not for this alone. Downlink: 98%. WHAT!? Oh nice, there's an SM running at 1X downlink. Motherf On 9/12/2016 3:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Hey Dan!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Oh, and the uplink frame utilization values are not correct.. at least in 2.6. I haven't tried 3.0 yet. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > I am trying to identify congestion on my ePMP radios and am getting weird > numbers. I am

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Please tell me frame utilization (as a percentage) is available via SNMP in 3.0. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:07 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Hey Dan!!! > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On

Re: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should be taken?

Citel makes some nice DC surge suppressors that you should probably use.. they are ~$100/ea. We have done it both ways.. with and without. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:04 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > If we install a netonix SW at the tower, fed by DC and Fiber, what surge >

Re: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should betaken?

You can probably guess my answers... From: Gino Villarini Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 2:04 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should betaken? If we install a netonix SW at the tower, fed by DC and Fiber, what surge protection should be

[AFMUG] Intermapper Probes- Anyone available for hire?

Looking to get some probes developed, Cambim 450 Epmp AF24 AF5x Mimosa Anyone have probes for this devices or its available for write them for us?

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

Hey Dan!!! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr. < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > I am trying to identify congestion on my ePMP radios and am getting weird > numbers. I

[AFMUG] ePMP congestion monitoring

I am trying to identify congestion on my ePMP radios and am getting weird numbers. I am trying to find out how others monitor congestion. I am monitoring the following MIBs... ulWLanTotalUsedFrameTimePerSecond ulWLanTotalAvailableFrameTimePerSecond dlWLanTotalUsedFrameTimePerSecond

[AFMUG] Installing SW at top of tower - what precautions should be taken?

If we install a netonix SW at the tower, fed by DC and Fiber, what surge protection should be used? Can I do direct DC or should i protect the DC?

Re: [AFMUG] Saved by the uGPS? PIC of the Week

I'm talking about the OEM 450 sectors, not 430. We don't have any 430 installed. On 9/12/2016 2:21 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: The ones in Gino’s photo are the first generation which I believe were made by PCTel/Maxrad. Mechanically they were garbage, several places prone to breakage or loosening.

Re: [AFMUG] Epmp APs too sensitive to ESD/Lightning?

Sounds like Ubiquiti gear and it's same lame Ethernet popping problems.. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:52 PM, Gino Villarini wrote: > We are seeing way too many outages in Epmp APs. Sites with 450 or 430 > gear plus Epmp APs, the Epmp die and the 450/430 remain unharmed.. >

[AFMUG] Epmp APs too sensitive to ESD/Lightning?

We are seeing way too many outages in Epmp APs. Sites with 450 or 430 gear plus Epmp APs, the Epmp die and the 450/430 remain unharmed.. Anyone seeing same issues?

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

I think I probably 'borrowed' the base script from someone else and just modified it for my own needs. It's been 5+ years since I have even looked at it. It does the same thing, though - uses 'rndc stats' to get the data. Josh On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 1:30 PM, Jesse DuPont

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

The Nagios script does the same (although the fact that Josh made is is geeking me out - I have to rely on stuff someone else made). The Nagios agent on the BIND9 runs rndc-stats, which updates the stats file with new data. The agent then reads and parses the stats file,

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

that On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:24 AM, Josh Baird wrote: > Are you talking about something like this? > > [image: Inline image 1] > > You need to figure out how to get the data *out* of BIND. Newer versions > expose a statistics channel via XML that you can use to get data

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

On 9/12/16 09:06, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: I think if I had to do this I'd do multiple one gig pipes and route certain pipes to certain subnets. Break it up into smaller problems... ? Nx1G with BGP load sharing is a viable option, it simply comes down to cost effectiveness. I wouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Are you talking about something like this? [image: Inline image 1] You need to figure out how to get the data *out* of BIND. Newer versions expose a statistics channel via XML that you can use to get data like this. For the graph above, my NMS (Zenoss 4) SSH's into each DNS server and executes

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Use LibreNMS if you want to go that way Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 12:02 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote: > is the observium asshattery resolved completely yet? I had given

[AFMUG] PTP820

What is the default IP of these radios? I’m using 192.168.1.1 but they do not respond. I got this out of the user guide v8.3 and I’m plugged into the management port

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

I think if I had to do this I'd do multiple one gig pipes and route certain pipes to certain subnets. Break it up into smaller problems... ? - Original Message - From: Seth Mattinen To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 6:48 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Upstream,

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Only the square ones. On Sep 12, 2016 11:00 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Do you criticize the wheel too? =) > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Josh

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

is the observium asshattery resolved completely yet? I had given it consideration but that guy sullied it. If him and patrick leary were to have a fistfight, i would love it On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I want to criticise your choice of ANCIENT

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Do you criticize the wheel too? =) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > I want to criticise your choice of ANCIENT tools, but I'm setting in a > room with

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

I want to criticise your choice of ANCIENT tools, but I'm setting in a room with xymon up right now :( Give Observium a shot Steve. On Sep 12, 2016 10:54 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Personally I use Xymon. I'd recommend it for server status and things > like this.

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Personally I use Xymon. I'd recommend it for server status and things like this. Assuming this is Bind you can use retds.pl https://wiki.xymonton.org/doku.php/monitors Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:51

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Powercode is the primary, so real time, nope, nope and NOPE. SNMPc probably will, but Id have to turn it back on and build the probes Ive got cacti, but never had the time to actually sit and learn it enough to call it production. On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 10:46 AM, Josh Luthman

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

The question is what is your current monitoring server? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:44 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > Your existing monitoring server doesn't have the ability to monitor

Re: [AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Your existing monitoring server doesn't have the ability to monitor that? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" To: af@afmug.com Sent:

[AFMUG] Visualizing BIND

Im using DNSTOP to monitor real time activity on these servers I made live (interesting to see just how perverse some of our customers are) but is there a good tool for monitoring visually statistics, queries, cache, errors, etc that doesnt involve building yet another server to monitor these? --

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

On 9/12/16 4:09 AM, Paul Stewart wrote: I’m not a fan of any IXP putting caches into their network via route server or direct peering… first off “putting one” isn’t enough and where do you draw the line? Using Netflix caches for example….. The other challenge is that as the IXP grows, the only

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Definitely and didn’t mean to sound all “big boy” about this kind of stuff… IXP’s are an interesting beast as they want lots of smaller folks to connect to the larger folks so have to keep everyone happy. > On Sep 12, 2016, at 8:21 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: > > We were all small once. >

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Transport is typically quite a bit cheaper than transit. I'm seeing 10G waves only 50% more expensive than 1G waves. The quotes I got for you were similar to that. You'd drop a router into the remote facility, connect at 1G or 10G to transit providers and an IX. Then you'd haul that back to

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Windstream has 100G in Dallas from what I'm seeing. On Sep 12, 2016 7:18 AM, "David Milholen" wrote: > Exactly.. > > If I could get windstream to do better on a 10G transport to dallas Id be > good. > > > > On 9/11/2016 8:52 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: > > I can get

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

We were all small once.    I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had illusions of grandeur of selling IP transit. It's a phase.    Jared   Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Exactly.. If I could get windstream to do better on a 10G transport to dallas Id be good. On 9/11/2016 8:52 PM, Travis Johnson wrote: I can get completely FREE bandwidth in Chicago. $0 for up to a 10G connection. FREE. Transport is the real problem... LOL Travis On 9/11/2016 5:23 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Ok, So if I understand you place a router to colo in IX for your ip space,correct? What about capacity into your network? If you still only have access to 1Gig pipes. Also, What is transport going to cost to increase those pipes to 10G so that you will have that added capacity into your

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

We were all small once.    I'm sure I'm not the only one who has had illusions of grandeur of selling IP transit. It's a phase.    Jared   Sent: Monday, September 12, 2016 at 2:09 PM From: "Paul Stewart" To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

Usually it's done in concert with that CDN. IX: We want you at our IX. Here are the currently announced ASNs and prefixes. CDN: We see a peak of X gigabit/s. That justifies a caching node. Once we reach Y gigabit/s, we'll make that site on-net (assuming that CDN has a concept of on-net).

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

I’m not a fan of any IXP putting caches into their network via route server or direct peering… first off “putting one” isn’t enough and where do you draw the line? Using Netflix caches for example….. The other challenge is that as the IXP grows, the only folks who will benefit from it are

Re: [AFMUG] Upstream, going beyond 1 gig

There isn’t a lot of networks connected there … it’s nice though seeing an exchange popping in in areas like Salt Lake - didn’t know lil now that IXP existed :) > On Sep 11, 2016, at 10:21 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > > I'm surprised SLIX doesn't have Akamai. > >