Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Rory Conaway
Where is the OT on this? Unless your mom knows more than you about wireless. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 8:21 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it This is WAY

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread George Skorup
MikroTik says it's allowed... https://forum.mikrotik.com/viewtopic.php?t=84048 Granted, that thread is going on 3 years old. On 3/7/2017 9:17 PM, Jesse DuPont wrote: You could also rename the "admin" user, but I suspect deleting it is disallowed in RouterOS and as a failsafe, it is simply

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings. (NEW UPDATE )

2017-03-07 Thread George Skorup
I think you've pretty much exhausted everything. If a 450i AP in the same port works and the ePMP doesn't, then something's obviously up with the ePMP. Do you have suppressors up by the radios? We're not very deep in ePMP yet. Couple hundred radios. Lots of extremely small isolated POPs that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Jay Weekley
This is WAY better than politics. Adam Moffett wrote: So is your mom -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" > To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/7/2017 1:25:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread Jesse DuPont
You could also rename the "admin" user, but I suspect deleting it is disallowed in RouterOS and as a failsafe, it is simply recreating it. Alternative fact? Jesse DuPont

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread George Skorup
I've never deleted the 'admin' account because of stupid crap like this. Could you imagine this happening after upgrading a whole bunch of important routers? That would suck. I'd say set a very strong password for the admin user and leave it alone. But that's just me. What version of RouterOS

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Nope…add in a terminal session with full rights. My new users are created. If I leave the default admin in with no password…I can return using the new login and pass. The second I delete the admin account…next time I return the new users are wiped out and the admin account is back in place.

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
Direct IP.. no safe mode… reboot the router same issue… updated to latest build. I will try via command line. That is a good suggestion. Cheers, Andreas Wiatowski, CEO Silo Wireless Inc. 519-449-5656 x-600 From: Af on behalf of Adam Moffett

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

2017-03-07 Thread SmarterBroadband
Good thought, but no. We copy paste config using export file and there are no MAC addresses. From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jesse DuPont Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 1:30 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log Copied and pasted a

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings. (NEW UPDATE )

2017-03-07 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
That is correct George. When I go back to the site I am going to see if one of the 450i APs will get sync on it. The 450i are currently getting sync on a PacketFlux Power injector. During my initial testing to try and get sync to the ePMP AP I plugged one into the Power Injector that was

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP650 Sync and Packetflux

2017-03-07 Thread Bill Prince
I think Forrest is right. PTP500/600/650 uses a different sync mechanism. -bp On Tuesday, March 7, 2017 3:38 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: My understanding is that the 650 only receives sync from a PTP650 sync unit. If it is not compatible with

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium PTP650 Sync and Packetflux

2017-03-07 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
My understanding is that the 650 only receives sync from a PTP650 sync unit. If it is not compatible with either a CMM3, CMM4 or CMM5. Which means that it by extension won't be compatible with any of our gear. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:31 PM, Sam Lambie wrote: > I am

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread Adam Moffett
Just to cover the dumb questions: How's connectivity to it? Winbox could act funny if there's packet lossin which case changing it via CLI might work. Somebody isn't changing the password in "safe" mode are they? -- Original Message -- From: "Andreas Wiatowski"

Re: [AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread can...@believewireless.net
Remember having this happen years ago. Can't remember if it required a reboot or upgrade to fix. Also, try it via CLI if you are using Winbox. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Andreas Wiatowski wrote: > We have one router that can’t seem to get a password to stick in a

Re: [AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

2017-03-07 Thread Jesse DuPont
Copied and pasted a config, including bridge MAC address, from one router to a newly deployed router? Jesse DuPont Network Architect

[AFMUG] Weird Mikrotik issue

2017-03-07 Thread Andreas Wiatowski
We have one router that can't seem to get a password to stick in a CCR router. Even if I change the password in this router is defaults back to no password? Anyone ever see this Cheers, __ Andreas Wiatowski | CEO Silo Wireless Inc. Email

[AFMUG] Mikrotik error message in log

2017-03-07 Thread SmarterBroadband
Has anyone ever had this error message in the Mikrotik log? Interface, warning vpls9: bridge port received packet with own address as source address (4c:5e:0c:48:78:27), probably loop This message is appearing on one of our vpls hub routers. Any ideas on how to track down the cause?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Adam Moffett
So is your mom -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Reynolds" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/7/2017 1:25:34 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it Your face is awful >:} On Mar 7, 2017 8:00 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: Tool

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
So we're just stating facts now? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: > Your face is awful >:} > > On Mar 7, 2017 8:00 AM, "Josh Luthman"

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings. (NEW UPDATE )

2017-03-07 Thread George Skorup
Just to clarify, you cannot get sync over power to work on those two radios no matter what? All surge suppression removed doesn't get you sync over power from a SyncInjector or PowerInjector+Sync, nor a CMM3? On 3/7/2017 12:11 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote: I wanted to give some additional

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown
Thanks, and there will be some situations where noise levels on grounding systems are enough different from the noise on the data that the surge suppressor will activate. But wow, that is a lot of noise. We have the lowest capacitive loading of the data pairs on the market. But again in a

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown
The only thing common to the problem is the surge protector. Remove that and the problem goes away. In my mind that is a lousy ground. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2017 10:30 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues I would eliminate MT and see if problem goes

[AFMUG] Cambium PTP650 Sync and Packetflux

2017-03-07 Thread Sam Lambie
I am curious if anyone has synced the 650 with Packetflux gear. What's the best configuration? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758-7598 Office www.Taosnet.com

Re: [AFMUG] Siklu multipoint solutions

2017-03-07 Thread Peter Kranz
Pricing on the PMP product from Siklu starts at around $800 per subscriber unit and $2000 per base unit, but they do require license keys for full performance. Base sector provides a 90Hx20V degree coverage pattern Overall sector performance between 500 Mbps and 1.8Gbps depending on license keys

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Jeremy
I don't mean I would assume it is the Mikrotik because there is anything inherently wrong with them. I mean, I have seen reports of Ethernet issues between specific devices on certain models of Mikrotik. Without looking at this person's network, it would be tough to diagnose their issue, but I

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-03-07 Thread Dave
Now we need one that will fit in my 2 cmm4 outdoor cabinets. the cabinets is all I have left after a storm took not one but 2 out on the same tower till we figured out how the lightning was destroying them but they did protect the radios. a few static-cats and in-line DC-surge blocks later and

Re: [AFMUG] It's heeeeere.... well amost.

2017-03-07 Thread Dave
ok, now you have my attention.. On 02/28/2017 11:02 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: http://store.packetflux.com/packetflux-rackinjector/ -- *Forrest Christian* /CEO//, PacketFlux Technologies, Inc./ Tel: 406-449-3345 | Address: 3577 Countryside Road, Helena, MT 59602

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
Your face is awful >:} On Mar 7, 2017 8:00 AM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: Tool is just awful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:13 AM, CBB - Jay

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Justin Wilson
Todd Rundgren - Hate my fricking ISP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMsMeoXvq2A Justin Wilson j...@mtin.net --- http://www.mtin.net Owner/CEO xISP Solutions- Consulting – Data Centers - Bandwidth http://www.midwest-ix.com COO/Chairman Internet

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP and Packet Flux configuration settings. (NEW UPDATE )

2017-03-07 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
I wanted to give some additional updates on this thread since I was able to go to the site and do some additional troubleshooting before we started customer installs. I found the following: Running auto negotiation speed from the mikrotik with Gbps as an option through a REV D GIGE-APC

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Brandon Yuchasz
Chuck. Interesting timing on this item. Last night I stated typing an update to my epmp, gps, microtik, packetflux issue thread from a few weeks ago. I didn’t sent it because I wanted to do just one or two more tests before I “put it in the wild”. Ill go ahead and send it right now but still

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-07 Thread Gerard Dupont III
That's the chassis. Then add the GTGH 16 port line card or the GTGO 8 port card. We use the Huawei ETP4830-A1 power supply and a string of telco batteries or you can replace one of the SMXA supervisor/uplink cards with a PRAM and do AC directly inside the C320. There are slight differences

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Jaime Solorza
I would eliminate MT and see if problem goes awayHad grounding issues with them before... On Mar 7, 2017 10:10 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > I wouldn't assume it's the Mikrotik. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions >

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-07 Thread Jason McKemie
Is something like this a smaller version of what you're using? https://wholesaler.alibaba.com/product-detail/Original-ZTE-OLT-ZXA10-Mini-Device_60221381720.html?spm=a2700.7724838.0.0.zODsrR=p On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:21 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > Ok, so my keyboard makes me

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Adam Moffett
If it's Mikrotik, it might also only affect a specific model. CCR, for one, is more fussy than some of the others. -- Original Message -- From: "Mike Hammett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 3/7/2017 12:10:41 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues I wouldn't assume it's the

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck Hogg
Ok, so my keyboard makes me look drunk Gerard says... I've got 4 chassis's no problem, all with Class C optics. LOL! Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 12:14 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem. Not buying Alphion, ZTE. > > Regards, >

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-07 Thread Jason McKemie
Chuck - Do you have model numbers for the OLT/ONT you are buying? Is the documentation / interface in English? On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:14 AM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem. Not buying Alphion, ZTE. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Mon, Mar

Re: [AFMUG] Zirkel Mounts for radios

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck Hogg
I'd email Sean, s...@zirkel.us Regards, Chuck On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Rob Genovesi wrote: > Haven't seen that mount before. If you have trouble finding them the > Mimosa "FlexiMount" might be a good alternative (~$7 MSRP) > :

Re: [AFMUG] Small-scale GPON

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck Hogg
I've to 4 chassis so far and never a problem. Not buying Alphion, ZTE. Regards, Chuck On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 6:12 PM, Paul Stewart wrote: > Interesting …. do they work ok? > > I came from Calix and Adtran world for GPON/ONT stuff … considerably more > than that. I did

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
I wouldn't assume it's the Mikrotik. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jeremy" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2017 11:04:02 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Jeremy
I would point to a potential Mikrotik issueas we do not use Mikrotik at all. We use Cisco and Netonix. On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 10:03 AM, Jeremy wrote: > We use the GIGE-POE-APC on 100% of our network infrastructure. We have > over 100 APs, and countless backhauls

Re: [AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Jeremy
We use the GIGE-POE-APC on 100% of our network infrastructure. We have over 100 APs, and countless backhauls running on these. I have every flavor of UBNT running on these surge suppressors, and have never had a single issue. We have AC gear, AirFibers, M-series, you name it. On Tue, Mar 7,

[AFMUG] UBNT issues

2017-03-07 Thread Chuck McCown
I received the following from a distributor (from one of their customers) this morning: We have some issues with their GigE suppressors with Mikrotik Routers and UBNT AC gear. Using the combination of the 3 we generate sever FCS errors on these links, which causes issues. If we bypass

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
I don't think he'll revisit Guantanamo unless the goal is to move them from there to US based privatized prisons. On Mar 7, 2017 9:42 AM, "Steve" wrote: I get you. In principle it is WRONG. Obviously. I also don't agree with the terrorist detainees without trials. Just

Re: [AFMUG] Zirkel Mounts for radios

2017-03-07 Thread Rob Genovesi
Haven't seen that mount before. If you have trouble finding them the Mimosa "FlexiMount" might be a good alternative (~$7 MSRP) : http://mimosa.co/product#accessories-section -Rob On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > I've always bought these off Ebay >

[AFMUG] Zirkel Mounts for radios

2017-03-07 Thread Nate Burke
I've always bought these off Ebay 10 Pack of Antenna Mounts for Motorola / Cambium Canopy and Ubiquiti Antennas '10 Pack of Antenna Mounts for Motorola / Cambium Canopy and Ubiquiti Antennas' I've always referred to them as 'Zirkel' Mounts. The last auction expired in Feburary, and there

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Robert
Like if AFMUG becomes a dissident forum... At least in perception of someone with the keys to the jail... On 3/7/17 7:30 AM, Stefan Englhardt wrote: I knew about windows since like 98 because I knew a Microsoft employee who told me about what they could do. Skype didn't surprise me either.

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Steve
I get you. In principle it is WRONG. Obviously. I also don't agree with the terrorist detainees without trials. Just the fact they can arbitrarily take anyone. Hopefully Trump will consider revising the Patriot act when it comes back up. Like I said at the end - its bittersweet. I am

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Stefan Englhardt
> I knew about windows since like 98 because I knew a Microsoft employee who > told me about what they could do. Skype didn't surprise me either. Quite > frankly I don't care because I don't have anything to hide. This "I don't have anything to hide" is as long as your country behaves fair to

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Steve
"CIA turned every Microsoft Windows PC in the world into spyware. Can activate backdoors on demand, including via Windows update. Skype voice conversations are converted into text in real-time, scanned for contents of interest and stored in CIA spy cloud." I knew about windows since like 98

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Mike Hammett
As of the writing of the manual, it looks like it only affects PowerPC, MIPS-LE and MIPS-BE in 3.x and 4.x, but the document is from 2014 and was changed a few times a year, so maybe they have compromised newer versions and platforms . - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Tim Reichhart
Now I can see this being problem for Miktroik or for that matter Edgerouters or any type of Linux based routers. I wonder what MK is going do about this to harden the software? Tim -Original Message- > From: Steve > To: af > Date: 03/07/17 09:53

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Steve
https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/cms/files/UsersGuide.pdf ^^User guide how to hack the Mikrotik Hopefully they are reading this and will get patching ASAP. Well I'm not shocked at all the rest. We know they have Cisco, Solaris, Juniper I'm not shocked at all the rest just that they heavily

Re: [AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Josh Reynolds
I don't understand. MikroTik is used frequently in the EU and developing world, which makes it a great target. Why are you so shocked? On Mar 7, 2017 8:45 AM, "Steve" wrote: > Wow.. They actually have something for the Mikrotik too. All the rest of > it does not shock me

[AFMUG] Wikileaks #Vault7 CIA Backdoor leaks

2017-03-07 Thread Steve
Wow.. They actually have something for the Mikrotik too. All the rest of it does not shock me at all. We know you can hack cars, Iphones and Android devices ... But the Mikrotik really? https://wikileaks.org/ciav7p1/

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Josh Luthman
Tool is just awful. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Mar 7, 2017 at 1:13 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > no tool? I'm disappointed... > > > - Original Message - > *From:* Jay Weekley

Re: [AFMUG] OT Songs that get us through it

2017-03-07 Thread Jay Weekley
Tool is great but they aren't icons from my childhood. CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: no tool? I'm disappointed... - Original Message - *From:* Jay Weekley *To:* af@afmug.com *Sent:* Monday, March 6, 2017 10:38 PM

Re: [AFMUG] 30" to 36" face width guyed tower 20 ft sections

2017-03-07 Thread Lewis Bergman
He probably got the idea from a tower overlooking Brownwood. There is a 500 foot tower there that is that H design. Condemned now due to lack of maintenance but served well for more than 50 years. On a slightly different take I am sure most of you have seen those Sabre SS towers that have legs