Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Rory Conaway
Are you using Chrome? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:55 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11 ill have to look into browser by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
ill have to look into browser by clunky I mean slow to load, multiple instances where it went to the login screen for no reason, a junk gui to me is indicative of the gears quality, unless the gear is designed for cli and gui is an afterthought at least its not java, ill give it that I guess

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Rory Conaway
I’ve got multiple B11 links up, no issues, one carrying 300-400Mbps with over 1000 devices or more every single night for 50 miles and it’s been up for a year. Could another product do that? Of course, but a year ago, this was the most cost-effective product out there and it’s worked

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Rory Conaway
Steve, you are mistaken on a couple of things. I’m not sure how you say it’s clunky. It’s pretty easy, as are most of the vendors GUI’s. As for our statement about the road trip, that is completely false. If the AP is on the connection side, the client side will always search and connect.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread ste
Used to licensed gear for licensed frequence this cheap stuff is a stepdown for sure. You get what you pay for. With licensed frequency I would pay a bit more and use SAF. The experience starts with the mount. Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Steve Jones Gesendet:

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
under the numbers. I'm giving up on this nonsensical crap for the night pretty sure we really got what we paid for with this stuff On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > You should be able to type in the SSID... at least I can on whatever > firmware

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Mathew Howard
You should be able to type in the SSID... at least I can on whatever firmware version we're running. noise floor in the low 80s doesn't sound good... is noise showing up on the spectrum analyzer, or is it just saying that under the numbers? On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
we are pulling out old hyperlink (I think) single pol panels from our alvarion vl gear we decommissioned across the network, I wonder about diversity. those combined have a smaller footprint I think than the stock epmp sector. we had vl customers at over 8 miles off these into 200 degree coverage,

[AFMUG] mimosa b11

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
very unimpressed thus far and theyre just sitting on my living room floor web interface is so clunky, pretty well guarantees if a link has any issue no getting to the other side to reboot it, definite road trip, glad these are going in a redundant path essids reverting to factory... awesome I

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Mathew Howard
I suppose you could attach an omni to some kind of a shield to an omni fairly easily and turn it into a 180... it'd probably end up with better F/B ratio than that sector too. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:53 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > lol 360 degree with extreme downtilt

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
lol 360 degree with extreme downtilt on an Omni could get interesting. Maybe just get out the sawzall and split it down the middle? On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 9:50 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > You'd also have similar gain with two 90 degree antennas and a splitter. > > --

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
You'd also have similar gain with two 90 degree antennas and a splitter. -- Original Message -- From: "Mathew Howard" To: "af" Sent: 8/23/2017 10:42:27 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna? Hmm... that's interesting, but only 13dbi

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Mathew Howard
Hmm... that's interesting, but only 13dbi and only 11db f/b ratio. I don't really see much advantage over just using an omni. On Aug 23, 2017 2:36 PM, "David Coudron" wrote: > We have been looking at these for similar situations, but haven’t pulled > the trigger on

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Sounds about right. -- Original Message -- From: "Steve Jones" To: "af@afmug.com" Sent: 8/23/2017 8:36:25 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots Ive found that if I start every issue assuming the device is hijacked and the

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
I just spent a day testing apart VoIP streams trying to figure out why calls weren't connecting. Finally decided to start over. I put the wrong ip for the endpoint and the ILO just refused to process the call. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017, 7:36 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Ive

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
Ive found that if I start every issue assuming the device is hijacked and the activities are masked so I cant see them, it helps me to work back slowly into reality until I discover what I messed up three weeks ago and is just presenting now, usually turns out to be something really dumb, like

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Just wanted to point out that the good capacitors are also Chinese. -- Original Message -- From: "George Skorup" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/23/2017 8:30:28 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots Gear get really hot for an extended period of time?

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
What is strange about this is that each device that had an issue was at a different site. Each one is connected to each other via a wireless link with the exception of the core router that is hardliners in Sterlings cabinet. These are on different power grids...kind of. Thank you, Brett A

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread George Skorup
Gear get really hot for an extended period of time? I've seen stupid stuff start happening when capacitors are getting ready to go. I suppose the same thing can happen if caps absorb a surge. Just an idea. Mikrotik using crappy chinese capacitors.. nah, never. On 8/23/2017 7:14 PM, Chris

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
The electric power issue at storm water site I mentioned on list has not been solved. A huge motor started to ramp up during recent storm and never reached 480 operational level and shut down, sending alarms and crews at 3 am to manually start other two motors. These are million dollar motors

Re: [AFMUG] help understanding and troubleshooting bgp from the target perspective

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
I couldn't say for sure at this point. it was such a problem I had to move the traffic. they did respond that they have an "issue" theyre working on with transit to chicago. I'm assuming whatever it was that the original issue was "resolved" with this started shortly after their peering skipped

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I wonder if your router and his switch had an issue at the same time. That lends credence to the theory that you're getting something wacky on the power line. -- Original Message -- From: "Brett A Mansfield" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/23/2017 8:02:57 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Chris Wright
Bad power can definitely cause weird symptoms. Do you have anything monitoring current/voltage draw? Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jaime Solorza Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 5:11 PM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
And line conditioning strategy Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 6:10 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Nope...he didn't wear an amulet by stomach during eclipse > I would look into faulty wiring and recommend isolation of devices to see > if problem follows device ... > >

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Nope...he didn't wear an amulet by stomach during eclipse I would look into faulty wiring and recommend isolation of devices to see if problem follows device ... Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 6:04 PM, wrote: > So my death ray works after all... > > -Original Message-

Re: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread chuck
So my death ray works after all... -Original Message- From: Brett A Mansfield Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:02 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots I’ve been having the strangest day today with my network. It all started with a sudden reboot of my

[AFMUG] Somewhat OT: Random reboots

2017-08-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
I’ve been having the strangest day today with my network. It all started with a sudden reboot of my core router. Made no sense to me at all until Sterling mentioned the brownouts (my core router sits right next to many of his switches in the same cabinet). Next, another core router reboots

Re: [AFMUG] help understanding and troubleshooting bgp from the target perspective

2017-08-23 Thread Chris Wright
Is traffic leaving and arriving through the same provider? Sounds similar to a Reverse Path Forwarding issue I had a long time ago. Chris Wright Network Administrator From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:59 AM To: af@afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Sterling Jacobson
Probably about half of them were on battery UPS, yes. On the POE side anyways, not on the direct DC plug. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dennis Burgess Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 3:46 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs,

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Ducking by the way :) Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant - MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com Office: 314-735-0270 E-Mail:

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Dennis Burgess
Maybe a battery backup ? Dennis Burgess - Network Solution Engineer - Consultant MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant - MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE For Wireless Hardware/Routers visit www.linktechs.net Radio Frequency Coverages: www.towercoverage.com Office: 314-735-0270 E-Mail:

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium cnPilot dual band AP

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
500...thanks Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 12:52 PM, "Josh Luthman" wrote: > Uhh which product? The e400 and e500 only have the cnMaestro feature of > seeing other WiFi networks (not actual noise spectrum analyzer). > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Also thanks for offer to help out...way cool Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 1:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > I have MetaGeek WiSpy on laptop, and several Apps on phone and two > tablets. I have Xirrus, Ruckus, Ubnt and Cambium APs and radios plus > Spectrum

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
I have MetaGeek WiSpy on laptop, and several Apps on phone and two tablets. I have Xirrus, Ruckus, Ubnt and Cambium APs and radios plus Spectrum Analyzer...will use my telescoping mast to set up at different heights. Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 1:03 PM, "Brian Webster"

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread David Coudron
We have been looking at these for similar situations, but haven’t pulled the trigger on any and tried them as of yet. We’d be interested to know if anyone else has tried them. Only 13 dBi gain, otherwise we’d be more excited about them.

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I found that dropping them in boiling water rather than bringing them to boil from cold made a statistically significant improvement in peelability. I did a bunch of experiments last fall on this. From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:23 PM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: Re:

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Two 90s and a splitter. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 1:27 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna? I haven't ever found anything wider than 120 degrees... A 180 would come in handy in a lot of places. On Aug 23, 2017 1:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza"

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Mathew Howard
I haven't ever found anything wider than 120 degrees... A 180 would come in handy in a lot of places. On Aug 23, 2017 1:51 PM, "Jaime Solorza" wrote: > Easy to make a shield for it...Solectek used shields for 60,90 and 120 > degrees made by Seavey Engineering

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread James Howard
My wife got tired of problems peeling eggs and looked for different ways to do it. The method she ended up with is to put the eggs in the pot with cold water and bring to a boil. As soon as the water starts a rolling boil she turns the burner off, covers the pot and sets a timer for

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread Brian Webster
I usually start with the eggs in the water and bring it to a boil and experienced the same problems mentioned. Tried the putting them directly in to boiling water for 12 minutes the other night, then poured off the boiling water and ran cold water over them and let them sit. They peel nicely

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey

2017-08-23 Thread Brian Webster
When you do your survey I would recommend you name each AP differently and take the walk through slowly to make sure you pick up each AP and it’s signal level. There are a number of phone apps that allow you to log the coverage survey file. With separate AP names you can then isolate each AP

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
in our case no, but reseating the sfp does, it sees it there, its just dead On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 1:29 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I'd be curious if disable/enable the interface brings the SFP back to > life, or re-inserting the SFP module. > > > -- Original Message

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I'll have to try both of those next time and see. Maybe there would be a watchdog function in Mikrotik I could use to power cycle automatically in these cases. -Original Message- From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 12:29 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium cnPilot dual band AP

2017-08-23 Thread Josh Luthman
Uhh which product? The e400 and e500 only have the cnMaestro feature of seeing other WiFi networks (not actual noise spectrum analyzer). Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 10:02 PM, Jaime Solorza

Re: [AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Easy to make a shield for it...Solectek used shields for 60,90 and 120 degrees made by Seavey Engineering Antennas...I have made shields for myself and customers. Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 11:21 AM, "Steve Jones" wrote: > is there such a beast as this? > > I have

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
I'd be curious if disable/enable the interface brings the SFP back to life, or re-inserting the SFP module. -- Original Message -- From: "Adam Moffett" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/23/2017 2:24:44 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
He's saying the switch is "up" but the SFP's stop communicating until a reboot. I assumed fiber SFP's. Maybe in a brownout the SFP dies first because it's farther from the power supply than other components in the switch. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown"

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Brett A Mansfield
Could this have been the cause of my first outage in 7 months? I was wondering what happened. My router had a brief blip in voltage and rebooted. I was very sad to lose my 7 month uptime, even though it was just a 1 minute long outage (long enough for the EdgeRouter and AF24 to reboot). Thank

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Bill Prince
The last one was empty, and had no upfitting; not even a rack. I'm guessing the weight on the rear wheel (it was the rear wheel that cracked the lid) was no more than 1500#. bp On 8/23/2017 11:00 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: A 3/4 ton pickup might way 9000 lbs empty.  

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Bill Prince
Battery backup is your friend. Even if the batteries are small, a simple DC UPS will filter out almost all AC problems you can imagine. If the site is important to you, you should have battery backup anyway. bp On 8/23/2017 10:39 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: I

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Glitches could come in through the ethernet side too. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:59 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs,Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units I had about 10 of these units suffer from the

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
A 3/4 ton pickup might way 9000 lbs empty. Heavier in the front if it's empty, heavier in the back if it's full. Depending on the exact truck and what was in it, it's possible the weight on one tire exceeded 2500 pounds. -- Original Message -- From: "Bill Prince"

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I had about 10 of these units suffer from the disconnect problem this morning. Some were powered solely from DC wall plug directly to round connector. Some were powered solely from POE injector from included DC wall plug power supply. Some were actually powered by both direct DC round plug AND

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
We have at least 50 CRS and I've never seen that. We aren't using the wall warts though. These are almost all on Traco 48v power supplies plus a 48 to 24 converter. So I have a second layer of conversion between the device and the power. That's just an observation and I don't know that it

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Power fluctuations cause ground connections to bounce too. If you have grounding and bonding issues, that might explain it. -Original Message- From: Sterling Jacobson Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 11:39 AM To: 'af@afmug.com' Subject: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up

Re: [AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
we have an sfp issue like that, i only have 1 of the PS powered, i wondered if that was part of the issue. we also have an APC source switch that the primary has a flaky battery so it would switch sources. Now you have me wondering if when it swaps if theres a fluctuation On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at

[AFMUG] Brown-outs, Power fluctuations lock up Mikrotik CRS units

2017-08-23 Thread Sterling Jacobson
I get power glitches from time to time in our city and it never fails to cause one or more of our CRS units to glitch. They appear powered and running, but SFP+ modules don't communicate until a power cycle. Anyone else see this? And generally, I don't understand how variations in 110v AC get

Re: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread Sean Heskett
Cambium also just released the 450b SM so there is now a lower cost SM that works in the 4.9ghz band. -Sean On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 10:56 AM George Skorup wrote: > What Sean said about the water/case seal problem, limited issue. > > If you want 4.9-5.9 capability,

[AFMUG] 180 degree 5ghz epmp antenna?

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
is there such a beast as this? I have a couple locations where i need better downtilt for near customers, under half mile. Theyre right in the middle of towns and i have room for maybe 2 more access points or id just roll out 4 more epmp lites. one site we just redid had two 90 epmp sectors, a

Re: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
The new 670 has Point to a Few Points and it woks in that band. Prolly looking at 3x the cost though. Jeff Broadwick ConVergence Technologies, Inc. 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@converge-tech.com > On Aug 23, 2017, at 11:35 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > > 450i

[AFMUG] help understanding and troubleshooting bgp from the target perspective

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
we have been dealing with amazon issues on one of our upstreams they had some BGP issues where they werent sending our announcements to the world, watching the peering all of a sudden they were peered with level3 directly, our announcements were working but we started having skullduggery with

Re: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread George Skorup
What Sean said about the water/case seal problem, limited issue. If you want 4.9-5.9 capability, PxP450i or PTP650. 450i is obviously going to be cheaper. If you're not going to use the integrated panel version of one of those, then make sure the antennas you choose actually work down in the

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Bill Prince
We use corrugated plastic culvert pipe for access to our septic clean outs. It happens to be 30" diameter, and we have traffic-rated lids that go over the top. The original lids were supposed to be rated at 2500# load. One of those cracked when a 3/4 ton pickup rolled over it. We replaced that

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
When I was looking at the meter pits made from culvert pipe, one of the manufacturers had instructions saying to add a concrete collar around the pipe to make it traffic rated. They had an elevation view which appeared to show just a concrete ring around the culvert pipe. They didn't *sell*

Re: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread Kurt Fankhauser
nice thing about 450i vs AF4X is the 450i can do 4.9ghz, 5.2, 5.3,5.4, 5.8ghz where as the AF4X is limited to only 4.9Ghz. You may need the extra channels for some un-forseen reason down the road. On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Sean Heskett wrote: > 450i is a solid product

Re: [AFMUG] Is fcc doing speed?

2017-08-23 Thread Robert Andrews
The first rule of RF Club is: You do not talk about RF Club.The second rule of RF Club... On 08/23/2017 08:40 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I think a book is warranted here on Chucks RF life...not his night club fights and behaving Badly book...like the scantily clad house wife needing

Re: [AFMUG] Is fcc doing speed?

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
I think a book is warranted here on Chucks RF life...not his night club fights and behaving Badly book...like the scantily clad house wife needing service and oh yes telephone lines repaired. Use Steve to add color commentary...It will be a best seller Jaime Solorza Wireless Systems Architect

Re: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread Sean Heskett
450i is a solid product and the water intrusion was a limited bad batch. we installed a 4.9Ghz system for our city and it's been a great solution for them (and kept the city out of the unlicensed bands) -sean On Wed, Aug 23, 2017 at 6:15 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > I

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Yes, some kind of tab to keep it centered. Perhaps some legs that would go down the inside of the culvert with some small plates on the end for feet to give it some more crush strength. The legs would not have to be attached to the lid. Not sure whether to make a hinged lid or keep it simple

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Some sort of studs on the bottom to position it on the pipe, perhaps? -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/23/2017 11:14:39 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile I was planning a circular diamond plate cover. Something simple.

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
I was planning a circular diamond plate cover. Something simple. From: Adam Moffett Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 9:03 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile Yeah actually I just realized that 18" diameter is kind of tight for a coil of OSP fiber. Do-able, but

Re: [AFMUG] Aerial fiber $/mile

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
Yeah actually I just realized that 18" diameter is kind of tight for a coil of OSP fiber. Do-able, but tight. I guess the hunt continues. If you do make something, let us know. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 8/23/2017 10:57:28

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread Adam Moffett
It also depends whether you start with eggs in the water while it's heating up vs adding the eggs to already boiling water. 10 minutes might be just enough if you start with the eggs already in the water and start the timer after you have a rolling boil. -- Original Message -- From:

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
To me, hard boiled means the yolks have a slight green tint. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 8:32 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly 17 min? I do 7min for soft boiled, 10 for hard boiled … and these are the organic large eggs costco sells

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread Gino A. Villarini
17 min? I do 7min for soft boiled, 10 for hard boiled … and these are the organic large eggs costco sells From: Af > on behalf of Steve Jones > Reply-To:

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey

2017-08-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Getting all that information today..I am guessing no more 10 to 15 AP I am rough guessing. It's huge... covers a block. Jaime Solorza On Aug 23, 2017 7:21 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > How big is this warehouse? My shop is 22,400 square feet and it is > covered by one single

Re: [AFMUG] Is fcc doing speed?

2017-08-23 Thread Steve Jones
Holy cow, ham licenses are pretty hard to actually lose arent they On Aug 23, 2017 8:19 AM, "Chuck McCown" wrote: > most folks don’t know the old history of Beehive (prior to me). > > There was an issue with marine radio/phone patch being used to clear > credit card

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
How big is this warehouse? My shop is 22,400 square feet and it is covered by one single AP and that works very well. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2017 6:21 AM To: Animal Farm Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey Yea, sometimes money is better spent doing something

Re: [AFMUG] Is fcc doing speed?

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
most folks don’t know the old history of Beehive (prior to me). There was an issue with marine radio/phone patch being used to clear credit card transactions, take reservations and place orders to vendors at a “social club” a ways North of Las Vegas. Actually FCC had a hearing on the

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly

2017-08-23 Thread Chuck McCown
Have to give that a try. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2017 8:50 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Eggxactly I think I got it! I did my usual, but dipped them out of the boiling water, ran them under cold water in the colander to quick chill them. then dumped the

Re: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi]
AF4X would work well. Likely cheaper too. Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S7 active, an AT 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Lewis Bergman Date: 8/23/17 7:15 AM (GMT-06:00) To: Animal Farm Subject: [AFMUG] 450i or alternative I am

Re: [AFMUG] Cisco site survey

2017-08-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
Yea, sometimes money is better spent doing something than thinking about doing something...testing. Sometimes...not so much. Wish I could positively identify the prior. Most guesses are correct, but that one you miss can even things up. I can say you can rent a S412e for a week for a lot less than

[AFMUG] 450i or alternative

2017-08-23 Thread Lewis Bergman
I am putting up a link for a library and I originally quoted the 450i about a year ago. This link goes to a Sheriff's department so could use 4.9G so I would like the product to at least be capable of that band. GPS sync would be nice as they have plans for another link in the future. 1. Is

Re: [AFMUG] Is fcc doing speed?

2017-08-23 Thread Hardy, Tim
Just a guess, but wouldn't be surprised if the Beehive applications were highly scrutinized by Uncle Charlie.. MG radio service has only recently seen this reduced turn around speed - MW (Homeland Security, Public Safety) have had it for several years. CF (Common Carrier) will not see this as