Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

If you're looking to do a few houses per mile, it's very likely that fiber doesn't make sense at all. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 9:24 PM, Adam Moffett wrote: > I'm looking at rural areas (like a few houses per mile). As I'm looking > at hypothetical power budgets for PON, I'm

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

+1hunnit. AE for very low density makes sense. The same argument can be made for wireless. If you have one house on a 1 mile road, does it even make sense to do fiber for that one customer? And then multiply that by something like 5 or even 10 miles. Bring fiber to a customer and shoot a PTP

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

Basically with Viva you're clearing $3/month as a reseller. The customer is theirs; they do billing and support. No local channels unless you're in NYC. Real Choice TV is earning you more like $10/month, and the customer is yours; you do billing and support. You're also not tied to their

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

I'm looking at rural areas (like a few houses per mile). As I'm looking at hypothetical power budgets for PON, I'm finding that if I run the line down the road and put splitters on the pole I can split 5-6 times and then I'm getting too low on db to keep going down the road. At 5 or so

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Trango did. They subbed out the coordination and licensing to Radyn, but I don't think they marked it up much. -- Original Message -- From: "Chuck McCown" To: af@afmug.com Sent: 2/11/2018 8:52:36 PM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz If I have been offered a

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

A few reasons... Port cost is still fairly high. More splicing. More fiber required. Larger chassis required. More power required. More battery backup required. Consumers not even close to using up 1-2 generations back of PON capacity in most places. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:53 PM, Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

I have the reseller information. The DVR feature should be up. I’ll check. I’ll also post the information for WISPS to sign up through us tomorrow. Why do you think they won’t survive? Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Al Rachide Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 5:30 PM

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

So, why do PON and not active in these super cheap optics days? From: Chuck Hogg Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 6:10 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with Zhone is different. Regards, Chuck On Sun,

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

If I have been offered a package, I cannot remember it. If I turned it down it was because I could save money by not taking the package. So, if this exists, it exists. Does SAF do this? Last radios I put up were SAF. From: Faisal Imtiaz Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 5:45 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

Why are you walking away from Alphion? I'm curious because we had our own issues. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 7:10 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote: > We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with > Zhone is different. > > Regards, > Chuck > > On Sun, Feb 11, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

We are walking away from them and Alphion...I think Mark's product with Zhone is different. Regards, Chuck On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 2:29 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it was DASAN > that rescued them from the one they

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

I am guessing you don't know this.. but every distributor that is selling license radios, offers a 'licensing coordination' package. In case of Mimosa, they actually have an arrangement with one of the coordinators to get the job done at a discounted rate. So, what I am missing... ?

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

Looking at OTTV on TDAmeritrade, it does not look like it will survive financially. Is there something there that I am missing? The idea sounds great for our area, especially the Latino side of the equation. Does OTTV have a WISP re-seller plan? If so, how do we get info on that? Thanks, Al

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Except in the case of the licenses, that is done by the federal government - a non business entity. Not sure license fees with the FCC are up for negotiation, unless you have your own army of lobbyists. On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Chuck McCown wrote: > If you are selling

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

Do they also have OTA, DVR, etc.? Asking because I don't know. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 11,

Re: [AFMUG] How to test your license protection?

A couple of comments / thoughts: For actual interference into your receivers, you should be able to easily test this by fading your path(s) to threshold. If you can’t make it all the way to threshold, you undoubtedly have interference. This is commonly called a fade test and should be done as a

Re: [AFMUG] Municameras

We work with Onssi for a large government customer. Are you talking about recording? Managing the cameras? On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 1:01 AM, Steve Jones wrote: > vendor OT responses appreciated > > On Sat, Feb 10, 2018 at 11:56 PM, Steve Jones

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

Most of the Android boxes around $25-$40 work with them. Rory From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mike Hammett Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 12:36 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment CTI has a box that's supposed to do everything. Does anyone know if

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

If you are selling radios that need licenses, I would think that perhaps you should get some kind of bulk deal and pass the saving along to your customers. Radio, antenna, license – all in a package for one simple price. Right now we buy the car at one place, then we go across the street and

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

>>. I should have caveated that, b11 is crummy. Here is the part that I love about the WISP's... Everyone is Opinionated to the Nth degree without explanation or possible understanding of why they have such an opinion. and that is ok, as long as it is expressed in that context ... As an

Re: [AFMUG] Viva Entertainment

CTI has a box that's supposed to do everything. Does anyone know if any of the WISP-focused IPTV providers work with it? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Rory Conaway"

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

They may be the same company, but surely they haven't merged the lines already. Of course there's always legacy stuff too. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Mark - Myakka

Re: [AFMUG] Cellular One approach to WISP

Tell the WISPs doing it wrong that they're doing it wrong. They'll appreciate it so much, they'll happily correct it. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Justin Wilson"

Re: [AFMUG] Outdoor PON OLT

I think Chuck Hogg walked far away from DASAN... or maybe it was DASAN that rescued them from the one they walked far away form. I don't remember which. ;-) - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message -

Re: [AFMUG] New Server Hardware

I would only host elsewhere what must be hosted elsewhere. Everything else in-house. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm"

Re: [AFMUG] How to test your license protection?

I got to the point I just throw the notices away without opening them. From: Lewis Bergman Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018 7:04 AM To: af@afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] How to test your license protection? I can speak to the fact that Commscope does watch your license and if something is

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

I should have caveated that, b11 is crummy. I havent seen much bad about the 5ghz stuff On Feb 11, 2018 9:47 AM, "Mike Hammett" wrote: > Mimosa 5 GHz works great for me. Don't use shit antennas. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Mimosa 5 GHz works great for me. Don't use shit antennas. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones" To: af@afmug.com Sent: Sunday, February 11, 2018

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Rain regions are pure shit if you actually care about being accurate in your rain fade\downtime calculations. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Steve Jones"

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/1152763711515746 https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp/posts/956205354504917 Use those to provide some accuracy to your rain fade estimates. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

We are getting ready to do a lot of these and will be using 18GHz. I’m not agreeing with Steve on the Mimosa gear, I’ve got several B11’s up, one as far as 50 miles. If you are limited to 40MHz, then Ubiquiti is more efficient. If you have 80MHz, then Mimosa, at least until Bridgewave comes

Re: [AFMUG] 24 GHz vs 11 GHz

Hey guys, Thanks a ton for the input. Looks like we got oversold on the distance from the link planning tools for 24 GHz. This conversation has been really helpful, although I had to call over 3 different people to help interpret Steve’s reply  Once they stopped laughing at this thread

Re: [AFMUG] How to test your license protection?

I can speak to the fact that Commscope does watch your license and if something is truly going to interfere they will file an objection on your behalf. They will alert you by email that they have have filled and ask for further guidance. If you want to object or allow them to build out. I don't

[AFMUG] How to test your license protection?

So half out 11ghz is through the hottie at intellipathe the orth half is through commscope. With commscope you get a free year of "protection". Sure, we get our monthly readouts on the commscope thing. But how do I KNOW theyre doing their due diligence? I havent gotten one " ALERT:theyre poking